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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76946058 United States 04/16/2021 02:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I challenge anyone to tell me a more unConstitutional entity than ATF. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78066851 Their one and only job is to take away Constitutional rights. That's it. Alcohol...tax. Tobacco...tax. Firearms...tax. They add ZERO value to this country. NONE. I don't toss the Nazi rhetoric around lightly. However, the ATF is the dream child of Hitler, Mao, and Stalin. You cannot be a member of the ATF and swear an oath to the Constitution. You've broken the oath the day you took it. IRS |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79757727 United States 04/16/2021 02:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Top fuel lawn mower racer that knows the power what a planter injects so that seed's roots must reach out for it... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79757727 United States 04/16/2021 02:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78066851 False. Rest assured, ATF is the enemy. Their only job is to infringe on Constitutional rights. That's it. That's all they do. Prove me wrong. Most ATF field agents fight crime. The agenda driven shit is a part of it sure. My point is that the murderers that pay for the disarmed populace are the real enemy. Their names are Bezos, Walton, Zuckerberg and a whole bunch of others. Their is always going to be someone willing to play capo at the extermination camp but if you want to fix things cut the head off the snake or blow the head off the wallet. What "crime" does ATF fight other than against an American exercising their rights? Please elaborate. I could say anything and it wouldn't satisfy a mouth breather or a paid Jeff Bezos, Walton heir or Mark Zuckerberg operative. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77376498 United States 04/16/2021 02:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Young Vito Corleone used a white towel! Quoting: Dave2545 (And fireworks in the background) ( ; ) Pillow will work for .22 rimfire! I fart louder than a .22 shooting 22's can damage your hearing. In a handgun length barrel .22LR rifles are pretty tame. Mob hit rule #1 :"Leave the gun ;take the Canoli"... |
Patriot_In_Waiting User ID: 71796270 United States 04/16/2021 02:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To protect your own hearing and those near you, is the best reason. No way they should be restricted by government. They can be bought in the U.K. over the counter at hardware stores in the U.K. and that should tell you a lot. LOL you can buy a suppressor over the counter, but can’t but the gun to put it on ! Patriot_In_Waiting My name is patriot_in_waiting and I'm a GLPTARD If we get caught.....I'm deaf, and you don't speak English |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78066851 United States 04/16/2021 02:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Remember folks, ATF agents aren't the enemy. The people who pay for the disarmed populace agenda and that want to continue killing us daily are the enemy. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79757727 False. Rest assured, ATF is the enemy. Their only job is to infringe on Constitutional rights. That's it. That's all they do. Prove me wrong. Most ATF field agents fight crime. The agenda driven shit is a part of it sure. My point is that the murderers that pay for the disarmed populace are the real enemy. Their names are Bezos, Walton, Zuckerberg and a whole bunch of others. Their is always going to be someone willing to play capo at the extermination camp but if you want to fix things cut the head off the snake or blow the head off the wallet. What crime do they fight? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78066851 United States 04/16/2021 02:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Remember folks, ATF agents aren't the enemy. The people who pay for the disarmed populace agenda and that want to continue killing us daily are the enemy. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79757727 ATF agents are armed with the best gear money can buy. They "follow orders" to encroach on the 2nd amendment EVERY FUCKING DAY. They are enemies of a free Republic and enemies to the Bill of Rights. |
Patriot_In_Waiting User ID: 71796270 United States 04/16/2021 02:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I challenge anyone to tell me a more unConstitutional entity than ATF. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78066851 Their one and only job is to take away Constitutional rights. That's it. Alcohol...tax. Tobacco...tax. Firearms...tax. They add ZERO value to this country. NONE. I don't toss the Nazi rhetoric around lightly. However, the ATF is the dream child of Hitler, Mao, and Stalin. You cannot be a member of the ATF and swear an oath to the Constitution. You've broken the oath the day you took it. I'm glad any Joe Blow can't buy 50 cal full auto or RPGs. We need ATF to keep it that way. We should be able to have equivalent weapons to the government....otherwise they can do whatever they want , which is why the second amendment was put in the constitution. To prevent the will of the government from overriding the will of the people.....PERIOD. and they should fear the citizens of the United States, that keeps them doing their job the right way.....if they have no fear of the citizens, they turn into ruthless dictatorships. Patriot_In_Waiting My name is patriot_in_waiting and I'm a GLPTARD If we get caught.....I'm deaf, and you don't speak English |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78066851 United States 04/16/2021 02:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Most ATF field agents fight crime. The agenda driven shit is a part of it sure. My point is that the murderers that pay for the disarmed populace are the real enemy. Their names are Bezos, Walton, Zuckerberg and a whole bunch of others. Their is always going to be someone willing to play capo at the extermination camp but if you want to fix things cut the head off the snake or blow the head off the wallet. What "crime" does ATF fight other than against an American exercising their rights? Please elaborate. It seems to be a legitimate purpose for them would be regulating the interstate and international trade of weapons. Raiding private citizens over violating of gun regulations is unconstitutional in my opinion. "The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" leaves little room for creative interpretations, and that was intentional. The founders who penned the bill of rights recognized the critical need for weapons in a free society, recognized the only government that would want to disarm it's citizens would be a tyrannical one. They gave us a way to resist tyrants. When you create an unConstitutional entity and give it law enforcement power as well as arm it to the teeth, it's a hammer. Everything looks like a nail to it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78066851 United States 04/16/2021 02:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I challenge anyone to tell me a more unConstitutional entity than ATF. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78066851 Their one and only job is to take away Constitutional rights. That's it. Alcohol...tax. Tobacco...tax. Firearms...tax. They add ZERO value to this country. NONE. I don't toss the Nazi rhetoric around lightly. However, the ATF is the dream child of Hitler, Mao, and Stalin. You cannot be a member of the ATF and swear an oath to the Constitution. You've broken the oath the day you took it. IRS The IRS and Federal Reserve claim their justice for existence on the 16th amendment......which was not lawfully ratified. Both the IRS and Federal Reserve are as unConstitutional as the ATF. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78066851 United States 04/16/2021 02:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To protect your own hearing and those near you, is the best reason. No way they should be restricted by government. They can be bought in the U.K. over the counter at hardware stores in the U.K. and that should tell you a lot. LOL you can buy a suppressor over the counter, but can’t but the gun to put it on ! You've obviously never purchased a suppressor. It takes a $200 tax stamp and close to a year to get "permission" to own it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78066851 United States 04/16/2021 02:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I challenge anyone to tell me a more unConstitutional entity than ATF. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78066851 Their one and only job is to take away Constitutional rights. That's it. Alcohol...tax. Tobacco...tax. Firearms...tax. They add ZERO value to this country. NONE. I don't toss the Nazi rhetoric around lightly. However, the ATF is the dream child of Hitler, Mao, and Stalin. You cannot be a member of the ATF and swear an oath to the Constitution. You've broken the oath the day you took it. I'm glad any Joe Blow can't buy 50 cal full auto or RPGs. We need ATF to keep it that way. We should be able to have equivalent weapons to the government....otherwise they can do whatever they want , which is why the second amendment was put in the constitution. To prevent the will of the government from overriding the will of the people.....PERIOD. and they should fear the citizens of the United States, that keeps them doing their job the right way.....if they have no fear of the citizens, they turn into ruthless dictatorships. Based on the intent of the 2nd amendment, we should have BETTER firearms than the government. The Federalist and Anti-Federalist papers are online and free. Read them. The 2nd amendment was enshrined to ensure We the People can get rid of an oppressive government. Even George Washington didn't advocate for disarming the people during his unConstitutional use of force against the Whiskey Rebellion. This nation is full of those who don't know history and prefer "feels" to reality. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 51514852 United States 04/16/2021 02:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If any of you purchased one of these products, be prepared to get raided. They don't seem to care that these products were not functional silencers (suppressors, silencer is a misnomer, there's nothing silent about it). They have all the customer info from this company and based on what they recently did raiding at least one customer of auto keycard, they will probably start raiding Hawk Innovative Tech customers too. If you think this is no big deal, consider that this can set a precedent you may be affected by. Have a gun with a threaded barrel and some extra oil filters for your car laying around and a power drill? Whoops, you have the "means to manufacture" a "makeshift silencer." If we're now going to say that having the parts needed to make an "illegal" accessory is itself illegal, then pretty much all of us have the parts laying around in our garage to do this. If they want to get you, they can use a bullshit charge like this and the media will cover up the bullshit nature of it to the public by bragging about how many guns, magazines, and rounds they seized at your residence. Take note, and if you bought one of these products for a SHTF situation, get a lawyer now and shut up. I guess soon a 2 liter coke bottle and duct tape will be illegal soon lol. ugh.. madness. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36801747 United States 04/16/2021 02:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Its a great advantage for hunting , they can be used to reduce the aggravation neighbors go through when you're target practicing and they protect the shooters hearing without him having to have impaired hearing. The reason the governemnt wants them to be illegal is the technology they have installed in cities to detect the location of gunshots. They are not technically "illegal" just "controlled" under the NFA*National Firearms Act) of 1934 I believe. You just have to file ATF forms; and pay a extra $250 tax to buy the "Federal tax stamp". It's a shitty useless administrative law. How many homicidal "shootings" are performed using a suppressor? Zero? Colonel Mustards' lead pipe or a hatchet is "silent" yet they are not "controlled"?? The hells angels prefer ball peen hammers |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80007340 United States 04/16/2021 02:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I challenge anyone to tell me a more unConstitutional entity than ATF. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78066851 Their one and only job is to take away Constitutional rights. That's it. Alcohol...tax. Tobacco...tax. Firearms...tax. They add ZERO value to this country. NONE. I don't toss the Nazi rhetoric around lightly. However, the ATF is the dream child of Hitler, Mao, and Stalin. You cannot be a member of the ATF and swear an oath to the Constitution. You've broken the oath the day you took it. I'm glad any Joe Blow can't buy 50 cal full auto or RPGs. We need ATF to keep it that way. We should be able to have equivalent weapons to the government....otherwise they can do whatever they want , which is why the second amendment was put in the constitution. To prevent the will of the government from overriding the will of the people.....PERIOD. and they should fear the citizens of the United States, that keeps them doing their job the right way.....if they have no fear of the citizens, they turn into ruthless dictatorships. Based on the intent of the 2nd amendment, we should have BETTER firearms than the government. The Federalist and Anti-Federalist papers are online and free. Read them. The 2nd amendment was enshrined to ensure We the People can get rid of an oppressive government. Even George Washington didn't advocate for disarming the people during his unConstitutional use of force against the Whiskey Rebellion. This nation is full of those who don't know history and prefer "feels" to reality. The 2nd Amendment is also about OTHER Governments. The Founders did not intend for North Korea or China to have more rights than US citizens. However, NK and China currently have Arms that exceed the capability of the militia. The Founders did not intend for the citizens militia to fight the Russians with Ford Explorers and Cessnas. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80246753 United States 04/16/2021 03:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If any of you purchased one of these products, be prepared to get raided. They don't seem to care that these products were not functional silencers (suppressors, silencer is a misnomer, there's nothing silent about it). They have all the customer info from this company and based on what they recently did raiding at least one customer of auto keycard, they will probably start raiding Hawk Innovative Tech customers too. If you think this is no big deal, consider that this can set a precedent you may be affected by. Have a gun with a threaded barrel and some extra oil filters for your car laying around and a power drill? Whoops, you have the "means to manufacture" a "makeshift silencer." If we're now going to say that having the parts needed to make an "illegal" accessory is itself illegal, then pretty much all of us have the parts laying around in our garage to do this. If they want to get you, they can use a bullshit charge like this and the media will cover up the bullshit nature of it to the public by bragging about how many guns, magazines, and rounds they seized at your residence. Take note, and if you bought one of these products for a SHTF situation, get a lawyer now and shut up. All of this retroactive "law BULLSHIT is jjust that... BULLSHIT. You can't go after someone for having purchased a LEGAL product in the past, just because you decide to make it "illegal" today, which it is NOT. |
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sssssteve User ID: 80248913 United States 04/16/2021 03:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | anybody that gets raided, don't answer questions until you get a lawyer, this is an ATF fishing expedition. Having the stuff is not illegal, but if you deny ordering it or having it, you can be charged with obstruction or giving a material false statement to a federal agent. That's where you get in trouble. Don't be like Gen. Flynn, don't talk em and lawyer up. |
Miller_The_Bastard_Cat User ID: 21209616 United States 04/16/2021 03:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If any of you purchased one of these products, be prepared to get raided. They don't seem to care that these products were not functional silencers (suppressors, silencer is a misnomer, there's nothing silent about it). They have all the customer info from this company and based on what they recently did raiding at least one customer of auto keycard, they will probably start raiding Hawk Innovative Tech customers too. If you think this is no big deal, consider that this can set a precedent you may be affected by. Have a gun with a threaded barrel and some extra oil filters for your car laying around and a power drill? Whoops, you have the "means to manufacture" a "makeshift silencer." If we're now going to say that having the parts needed to make an "illegal" accessory is itself illegal, then pretty much all of us have the parts laying around in our garage to do this. If they want to get you, they can use a bullshit charge like this and the media will cover up the bullshit nature of it to the public by bragging about how many guns, magazines, and rounds they seized at your residence. Take note, and if you bought one of these products for a SHTF situation, get a lawyer now and shut up. All of this retroactive "law BULLSHIT is jjust that... BULLSHIT. You can't go after someone for having purchased a LEGAL product in the past, just because you decide to make it "illegal" today, which it is NOT. Class 3 is a bitch if you don't have the TAX STAMP. If your building a semi-auto UZI SMG, from a Parts Kit, and you don't destroy the full auto parts, that is "intent to build". |