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Michigan Moving to Make Masks PERMANENT

 
Ulam

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Masking makes no difference


People die from influenza every year



Death tolls are the same


This is about power and the UN Agenda 2030
 Quoting: Ulam


Hiya, Ulam.

I debunk conspiracies, it's what I enjoy.

There is no "agenda".

If the "agenda" was to de-populate Earth, there would be no masking.

Let people get sick and die.

Great point about influenza, but moot.

It's an easy germ for the body to beat.
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The masking is key to the coronahoax and identifies who is on board with the state. You need at least a N95 rated mask for virus, they never asked for that. Matter of fact they asked us not to wear those unless you were essential personnel
So the mask was never about protecting people, but it helps with fear and compliance, as evidenced by how eager they take the death vaccine, that is how they depopulate, plus the subsequent infertility
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just don't wear them.

simple as that.
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REFUSE TO COMPLY WITH UNCONSTITUTIONAL LAWS

But this is also why you NEVER ever want women in power
they are naturally weak and will side with whomever has the greater power, even if it is tyrannical

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I'm a woman and I agree with you! Worked in law firms all my life and loved working for men, HATED working for women.
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Agree completely. I'm a female who worked in an entirely different field that was dominated by men, and I would choose to work with them or for them any time. Women? Not so much. They're awful leaders. Too emotional for the most part.
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Whereas in Tulsa...


Civilisation is at a crossroads
"Unfortunately the Barbarians dwell among us and our country is grown so weak and pathetic that the Barbarians must be appeased in the name of diversity and cultural sensitivity"
~ Allison Pearson
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Re: Michigan Moving to Make Masks PERMANENT
just don't wear them.

simple as that.
 Quoting: beeches


REFUSE TO COMPLY WITH UNCONSTITUTIONAL LAWS

But this is also why you NEVER ever want women in power
they are naturally weak and will side with whomever has the greater power, even if it is tyrannical

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80260221


I'm a woman and I agree with you! Worked in law firms all my life and loved working for men, HATED working for women.
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Agree completely. I'm a female who worked in an entirely different field that was dominated by men, and I would choose to work with them or for them any time. Women? Not so much. They're awful leaders. Too emotional for the most part.
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I think women are wonderful, but nature didn't design them to be in leadership and authoritative positions, just as men weren't meant to be caregivers and child bearers.
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REFUSE TO COMPLY WITH UNCONSTITUTIONAL LAWS

But this is also why you NEVER ever want women in power
they are naturally weak and will side with whomever has the greater power, even if it is tyrannical

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80260221


I'm a woman and I agree with you! Worked in law firms all my life and loved working for men, HATED working for women.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79689794




Agree completely. I'm a female who worked in an entirely different field that was dominated by men, and I would choose to work with them or for them any time. Women? Not so much. They're awful leaders. Too emotional for the most part.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79991265

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I think women are wonderful, but nature didn't design them to be in leadership and authoritative positions, just as men weren't meant to be caregivers and child bearers.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80260221


Bullshit

Last Edited by Tess. on 04/18/2021 09:48 PM

Civilisation is at a crossroads
"Unfortunately the Barbarians dwell among us and our country is grown so weak and pathetic that the Barbarians must be appeased in the name of diversity and cultural sensitivity"
~ Allison Pearson
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The administration of Gov. Gretchen Whitmer is drafting permanent rules that, once adopted, would impose an indefinite mandate for employees and customers to wear face masks.

The mandate is spelled out in draft rules posted by the Michigan Occupational Safety and Health Administration, or MIOSHA. The rules, once formalized, would replace the state’s current emergency orders.

The rule-making process generally takes a long time, and requires formal public hearings.

Most importantly, any rules the governor creates must be brought before the Joint Committee on Administrative Rules (JCAR) in the legislature. If the legislature declares a rule is improper, it would, at a minimum, delay the rule from taking effect for nine months.

Republican members of JCAR are Luke Meerman, Steve Carra, Matt Hall, Jon Bumstead, Lana Theis, and Ed McBroom.


All of them lean conservative within their caucuses and would likely do everything possible to fight the imposition of the rule.

We will monitor this situation as it develops.
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The governor has already been told that she can not do that constitutionally. The police need to stand up and say they will not enforce it. And the people need to start throwing eggs at her every time they see her. Enough of this insanity.
It is estimated that there are more stars than grains of sand on earth; but more atoms exist in a single grain of sand than there are stars...

gravity is a harsh reality.
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The administration of Gov. Gretchen Whitmer is drafting permanent rules that, once adopted, would impose an indefinite mandate for employees and customers to wear face masks.

The mandate is spelled out in draft rules posted by the Michigan Occupational Safety and Health Administration, or MIOSHA. The rules, once formalized, would replace the state’s current emergency orders.

The rule-making process generally takes a long time, and requires formal public hearings.

Most importantly, any rules the governor creates must be brought before the Joint Committee on Administrative Rules (JCAR) in the legislature. If the legislature declares a rule is improper, it would, at a minimum, delay the rule from taking effect for nine months.

Republican members of JCAR are Luke Meerman, Steve Carra, Matt Hall, Jon Bumstead, Lana Theis, and Ed McBroom.


All of them lean conservative within their caucuses and would likely do everything possible to fight the imposition of the rule.

We will monitor this situation as it develops.
 Quoting: FredAllen



Thats terrible news

Must be stopped
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The governor has already been told that she can not do that constitutionally. The police need to stand up and say they will not enforce it. And the people need to start throwing eggs at her every time they see her. Enough of this insanity.
 Quoting: continuity



All cops in Michigan are union

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I'm a woman and I agree with you! Worked in law firms all my life and loved working for men, HATED working for women.
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Agree completely. I'm a female who worked in an entirely different field that was dominated by men, and I would choose to work with them or for them any time. Women? Not so much. They're awful leaders. Too emotional for the most part.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79991265

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I think women are wonderful, but nature didn't design them to be in leadership and authoritative positions, just as men weren't meant to be caregivers and child bearers.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80260221


Bullshit
 Quoting: Tess.


Oh bullshit yourself. Don't take it personal.
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She is Hillary II. Probably another Sanger worshiper.
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I'm a woman and I agree with you! Worked in law firms all my life and loved working for men, HATED working for women.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79689794




Agree completely. I'm a female who worked in an entirely different field that was dominated by men, and I would choose to work with them or for them any time. Women? Not so much. They're awful leaders. Too emotional for the most part.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79991265

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I think women are wonderful, but nature didn't design them to be in leadership and authoritative positions, just as men weren't meant to be caregivers and child bearers.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80260221


Bullshit
 Quoting: Tess.

Yet everywhere you look when women were given the vote and positions of authority western civilization started to DIE.


As a man I would never say that I have the innate ability to be a caregiver, and of course I can't give birth to children. You cannot deny just how different the two sexes are especially mentally, literally our brains are wired differently.
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just don't wear them.

simple as that.
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its kinda hard to shop when Karens chasing you though the shopping lanes.
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"What can lawmakers and the public do? Not much. The legislature can slow down the implementation of these rules, but not stop them. MIOSHA must hold a public hearing and receive comments from the public, but it doesn't have to take those comments into consideration. Barring a successful lawsuit, if the governor and her department want these permanent rules put in place, they will be in effect indefinitely until the law is changed or until a different governor changes them.

"Ultimately, one person can control the lives of all 10 million Michigan residents to an enormous extent not only during a declared state of emergency, but potentially for years going forward."
 Quoting: FredAllen


Just like in Operation Lockstep which stated that even after the "pandemic" ends the mask mandates and restrictions will remain.
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"What can lawmakers and the public do? Not much. The legislature can slow down the implementation of these rules, but not stop them. MIOSHA must hold a public hearing and receive comments from the public, but it doesn't have to take those comments into consideration. Barring a successful lawsuit, if the governor and her department want these permanent rules put in place, they will be in effect indefinitely until the law is changed or until a different governor changes them.

"Ultimately, one person can control the lives of all 10 million Michigan residents to an enormous extent not only during a declared state of emergency, but potentially for years going forward."
 Quoting: FredAllen


DO NOT COMPLY.
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The governor has already been told that she can not do that constitutionally. The police need to stand up and say they will not enforce it. And the people need to start throwing eggs at her every time they see her. Enough of this insanity.
 Quoting: continuity



All cops in Michigan are union

pope2

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 Quoting: LastAmericanOutlaw



So it is unconstitutional? Who is going to stop her? The police? The government? The people? No one will stop her.

We no longer have the rule of law as we used to know it. Democrats have free reign, Republicans and Independents must toe the line or go to prison.
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"What can lawmakers and the public do?"

Hang the f*ckers from street lights...usually works.
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"What can lawmakers and the public do?"

Hang the f*ckers from street lights...usually works.
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The Founding Fathers are relieved that at least a few
of their descendants still understand what is necessary to
achieve liberty from tyranny.


Indeed when there is no redress of grievances (corrupt gov't) you ABOLISH that entity by any means necessary.
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REFUSE TO COMPLY WITH UNCONSTITUTIONAL LAWS

But this is also why you NEVER ever want women in power
they are naturally weak and will side with whomever has the greater power, even if it is tyrannical

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80260221


That’s also the truth of it

You would think after grandholm people would learn

Nope

Right back in


ochange
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definitely refuse to comply
but your comment about why you never want women in power ... that puke,, is totally sexist, outdated, and completely uncalled for - look at all the males in every state that what - like the president himself are compromised since they are bought to some degree - ya right,,, that is just you feeling insecure or something - you are not in power , but they are, like all the corrupt men in power
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It wasnt my comment

I responded to a comment about female leadership

Govenor kristy Noem is doing an outstanding job
 Quoting: LastAmericanOutlaw


Yeah I'd definitely take Noem over male governors like Cuomo, Newscum, Wolf, or Gay Inslee.
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That’s also the truth of it

You would think after grandholm people would learn

Nope

Right back in


ochange
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definitely refuse to comply
but your comment about why you never want women in power ... that puke,, is totally sexist, outdated, and completely uncalled for - look at all the males in every state that what - like the president himself are compromised since they are bought to some degree - ya right,,, that is just you feeling insecure or something - you are not in power , but they are, like all the corrupt men in power
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80237816



It wasnt my comment

I responded to a comment about female leadership

Govenor kristy Noem is doing an outstanding job
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Yeah I'd definitely take Noem over male governors like Cuomo, Newscum, Wolf, or Gay Inslee.
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Absolutely

Any day
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Fuck whitmer and Evers ... We didn't t even know who these people were two years ago:

Fuck'em..
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when I was in college our dorm floor went out there and fought some Militia in paintball, let me tell you they are not going to save anyone. we won everytime easily, it was stupid how easily we defeated them, especially since none of us had ever played these type of war games before
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just don't wear them.

simple as that.
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Ya........ LA CALI here...THEY CALL THE COPS!!!!
Never Enough Wine!!
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Yeah no..
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It's not a big deal to wear a mask.


It's just a mask.... please don't be so selfish.

Save lives.
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As Stanford University releases a peer reviewed study saying masks don't work, the people in Michigan must now wear them forever. Based on what reasoning? Of course none, since this is a fake pandemic and everything about it is a fraud. Facts are irrelevant. Peak crazy!
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They don’t use those antiquated things like ‘reason’ or ‘logic’ any longer silly....

Because corona.....
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Masking makes no difference


People die from influenza every year



Death tolls are the same


This is about power and the UN Agenda 2030
 Quoting: Ulam


Hiya, Ulam.

I debunk conspiracies, it's what I enjoy.

There is no "agenda".

If the "agenda" was to de-populate Earth, there would be no masking.

Let people get sick and die.

Great point about influenza, but moot.

It's an easy germ for the body to beat.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80068904


I just had covid 2 weeks ago & had I not lost my taste, I never would have even known I had it....I ALWAYS distinctly knew when I had the flu.
Also, I currently know 10 people that have or have had covid in the past 2 weeks & ALL cases have been mild. I am in Michigan & as the virus is surging, it's breaking through the grip of fear the talking heads have pushed...people here are realizing that covid has been a paper tiger all along.
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It's not a big deal to wear a mask.


It's just a mask.... please don't be so selfish.

Save lives.
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Willfully ignorant, purposely a stoop, or a troll.
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Masking is safe, folks.

I'm not on the fence.

I do it out of respect of my co-workers.

They do the same.

Whine and cry, be internet warriors.

It's a fact that this shit is/has been killing people.
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It's the FLU genius...
Louis in Richmond
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just don't wear them.

simple as that.
 Quoting: beeches


Beeches it's not that simple! There are dire consequences for many people in these states. Going to a jail is a traumatizing experience many can't survive, you have to have your vagina and anus penetrated when you are arrested, did you forget?

This is snowballing, the intent is to make them permanent WORLDWIDE don't you understand? That's why it was rolled out in the first place.

Unless we outright get rid of these demons it's going to get worse and worse.
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Agreed. Until we are rid of them.

It only takes one person with good intent and better aim to cause a change in the who the governor is.

The tree of Liberty needs to be watered.

[not an advocation of senseless violence]

Last Edited by Louis in Richmond on 04/19/2021 12:15 AM
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