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How can you be guilty of 2 counts of murder for one death? Serious question

 
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How can you be guilty of 2 counts of murder for one death? Serious question
I thought there was a thing called double jeopardy where you couldn't be charged for the same crime twice. I'm confused how one guy died, yet someone is guilty of manslaughter, murder 2 and murder 3 for the same death?
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Re: How can you be guilty of 2 counts of murder for one death? Serious question
Hopefully someone can explain it. I'm also a tad confused.
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exactly! what is the point of having different levels of crime if they can all be redundant?

for example, i remember people saying back in the early 90's that the prosecutors were overzealous with the charges against the cops who beat rodney king, charging them with intent to kill

and the jury was willing to charge them with excessive force, but they did not think the cops were trying to kill rodney king, so they had to vote not guilty as charged
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Law is racist so......liberal law (aka insanity) takes precedence
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ok, so here's how it works in most municipalities:

You can charge the person for 1st degree murder if there's evidence, but if you think you might not be able to get the jury to convict, you can file charges for the lesser crimes as well. In many municipalities, if you don't include the charges for the lesser crimes, you can't charge them again if they're not guilty on the first trial.

So, they just charge them with all the charges at once and let the jury sort it out.

But once sentencing takes place, all the lesser convictions merge into the highest one he was found guilty for, and they only sentence for the highest one.
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So he is in fact only guilty of murder 2 then? That makes much more sense thank you!
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Re: How can you be guilty of 2 counts of murder for one death? Serious question
It is totally inappropriate how they stack multiple charges like that.

If it was two differing things like nurder and arson then fine charge away but this MURDER 1..2...3...manslaughter 1...2 stuff is not appropriate.
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Rigged laws just like rigged elections. No explanations and no audits.
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Re: How can you be guilty of 2 counts of murder for one death? Serious question
It is totally inappropriate how they stack multiple charges like that.

If it was two differing things like nurder and arson then fine charge away but this MURDER 1..2...3...manslaughter 1...2 stuff is not appropriate.
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Agree. Or if two people died, I could see two different charges.

I think they threw the whole kitchen sink at him knowing it would probably be impossible to get NO conviction on anything that way.
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What I want to know is how can someone be found guilty of murder if the coroner’s report says the deceased died of natural causes?
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What I want to know is how can someone be found guilty of murder if the coroner’s report says the deceased died of natural causes?
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So in your world, if someone is strangled to death your opinion is lung failure due to low oxygen ?
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Rule of law died long ago.

We are now under Mob rule
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Yeah, I don't get it either. Someone is either guilty of one thing or the other when it's for one death.
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I've been confused as well. Been reading about it. It pertains to the different elements of the same act.
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Re: How can you be guilty of 2 counts of murder for one death? Serious question
They rigged it this way so he can appeal and he will win the appeal.
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Rigged laws just like rigged elections. No explanations and no audits.
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This ^^
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Re: How can you be guilty of 2 counts of murder for one death? Serious question
I've been confused as well. Been reading about it. It pertains to the different elements of the same act.
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Think about it without the dramatic language.

Did he do A?

If yes, did he also do B?

If yes, then did C conditions exist?

As near as I can figure. Don't quote me.
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What I want to know is how can someone be found guilty of murder if the coroner’s report says the deceased died of natural causes?
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So in your world, if someone is strangled to death your opinion is lung failure due to low oxygen ?
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in my world Fentanyl addicts have their lungs half filled with fluid and have trouble breathing at any time of the day..

a dog laying on their chest would give them problems breathing I bet.
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White cop = guilty.
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5th degree murder, obviously.
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Re: How can you be guilty of 2 counts of murder for one death? Serious question
Because eves lie killed her and adam ultimately and we are witness to every frame of reference ever since. Space aliens had to put a containment field on earth after the microplastic was detected and you are all now human resources for a federation and god created the federation to prevent that lie from disrupting the puddle of water. Lol





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