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Job Sends Letter To All Employee's Must Be Vaccinated by May 15 (update)

 
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Tell her to sue. They can't force her to take an experimental vaccine to keep her job, that's illegal...and this isn't nazi Germany.

The jab doesn't protect her from getting the cov19 anyway.
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She works at a law firm, a lawsuit doesn't carry as much weight as it would in a company without hundreds of attorneys.

Some suckhole attorney would take that case pro bono in hopes of climbing the ladder another rung.
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a) get fired

b) organize with co-workers to collectively say "fuck you" to the big man

B is worth a shot before resorting to A.

hf

If she can get enough people organized they will drop it.

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Well I'm off to make brownies, the kids I teach in my home Montessori School will be rolling the brownies into balls and dipping into blue icing and green icing continents for Earth Day tomorrow. Be back later.
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What can you do to stop this BS. My daughter works for a Lawyer Firm that doesn't even see clients but was told today she had to get her Vaccine by May 15. What should she do? Quit or wait to get fired? Would love to hear what GLPer's have to say about this.
 Quoting: Shustah


No employer can legally require a substance that isn't approved by the FDA. The jabs only have emergency use authorization.

And the FDA can't give approval until Phase III clinical trials are over, which is late-2022 to early-2023 according to Pfizer and Moderna's own announcements.
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tell them no

let them fire her

it is a law firm after all, they know they will be liable for something over this.

check your local laws


under NO circumstances take the poison. This is a good thing to leave a company that is forcing this.


they may back down, too
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Yep I agree, I told her to contact Nancy Ana Garner she started a lawsuit for a federal employee here in NM and is the only attorney to start a case in the US. She tried calling her but the # was disconnected. I'm guessing she was threatened.
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We were told by our state association that we can't mandate vaccines. However IF another employee or client contracts covid at our business due to the employees not being vaccinated, we the business owners are liable for lawsuits.

So I guess its just more putting us against each other.

Lose/lose.
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they can not prove that
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it's an experimental trial, I'd say no and hope they do fire her then sue.
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They can not by law demand to see proof of vaccine. Hippa.
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tell them no

let them fire her

it is a law firm after all, they know they will be liable for something over this.

check your local laws


under NO circumstances take the poison. This is a good thing to leave a company that is forcing this.


they may back down, too
 Quoting: beeches

I really hope the davos fks and these lawyers really believe in it and get that vaccine. If 40% of azzholes rotted off, peoples faith in a good god would be renewed.
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Don't fold like a cheap suitcase.
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I'm not so sure this is true. I have heard of no other organization let alone a law firm demanding vaccinations.

It is unlawful.

This might be fake.
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I went to town for the first time in a year...

And most people were wearing masks ..

But i felt stupid as i seen a guy in the health food store not ..

I slowly took it off..even though it was below my nose ..

So i began to talk to the man ..He was super nice...As i am ..

No problems ..

Went to town because i have been putting off going to the doctor office...

A big place,maybe with 4 people inside ...

Really nice...in fact...but she said i did not need the mask..i said do i really need this stupid thing...

she said no take it off...i did so ...lol

They know its a crock..

I know i have said i have NOT WORN A MASK ...TILL TODAY ...because it was my first outing ...

And it was Really decent with really nice people...

PEople Always been super cool with me ...

Wearing my Johnny cash shirt n shorts ....


She even liked my samsung smart watch 3 ...She said that is neat..

I said yea it takes my ...o2,stress,bpm,ECG ...soon to be blood pressure once its approved ...

But yea what i thought...People are STILL SUPER DUPER COOL...

I said i have not left the house in year ...which i haven't so i kept forgetting about the mask being on or off...

But she just said ..keep it off...lol...
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‘every knee will bow before me;
every tongue will acknowledge God.

Revelation 20:15 Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire.
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She only has two choices here. Quitting is not one of them.
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O BTW ...About your Job...

My wife been working since June of last year ....NO MASKS AT WORK

AS HER LUNG SPECIALIST TOLD HER ....NO!!!!!!

AS SHE HAS LUNG PROBLEMS ...BUT SHES BEEN FINE WITH NO MASKs

AND HER BOSS IS A LAWYER ...AND HE IS SUPER COOL WITH HER WITH NO MASKS

THIS IN CALIFORNIA MIND YOU ...
Romans 14:11 It is written:
“‘As surely as I live,’ says the Lord,
‘every knee will bow before me;
every tongue will acknowledge God.

Revelation 20:15 Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire.
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What can you do to stop this BS. My daughter works for a Lawyer Firm that doesn't even see clients but was told today she had to get her Vaccine by May 15. What should she do? Quit or wait to get fired? Would love to hear what GLPer's have to say about this.
 Quoting: Shustah


Let them fire her, and report all of the lawyers to the bar.
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Don't tell them until the 15, then make them fire you
Shustah  (OP)

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I'm not so sure this is true. I have heard of no other organization let alone a law firm demanding vaccinations.

It is unlawful.

This might be fake.
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NOT fake, but you believe what you want.
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tell them no

let them fire her

it is a law firm after all, they know they will be liable for something over this.

check your local laws


under NO circumstances take the poison. This is a good thing to leave a company that is forcing this.


they may back down, too
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This.
Gawd I hope she gets great lawyers and sues her employer lawyers into bankruptcy.
Hot lawyer-on-lawyer lawfare action.
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Lawsuit waiting to happen..

Info here:

[link to www.americasfrontlinedoctors.org (secure)]

As well as form letter in the website and attorney intake form

Everybody should save and modify this letter below to inform employers or educators you have legal standing not to take the vaccine

[link to assets.website-files.com (secure)] Loving Communist8008303d/6076e3e727bb4e3ee4bd8b74_Vaccine-Public-Let​ter.docx
Zions Fled

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I'm not so sure this is true. I have heard of no other organization let alone a law firm demanding vaccinations.

It is unlawful.

This might be fake.
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NOT fake, but you believe what you want.
 Quoting: Shustah


A law firm would be the last to declare this as they know the consequences.


If this is so someone should send them a letter demanding them to rescind this as it is illegal.
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O BTW ...About your Job...

My wife been working since June of last year ....NO MASKS AT WORK

AS HER LUNG SPECIALIST TOLD HER ....NO!!!!!!

AS SHE HAS LUNG PROBLEMS ...BUT SHES BEEN FINE WITH NO MASKs

AND HER BOSS IS A LAWYER ...AND HE IS SUPER COOL WITH HER WITH NO MASKS

THIS IN CALIFORNIA MIND YOU ...
 Quoting: Supreme ChugALugging


Interesting, the firm she works for is based in California, which is probably why they think they can get away with this.
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What can you do to stop this BS. My daughter works for a Lawyer Firm that doesn't even see clients but was told today she had to get her Vaccine by May 15. What should she do? Quit or wait to get fired? Would love to hear what GLPer's have to say about this.
 Quoting: Shustah


Maybe she could ask to change her employment contract to a contractor (instead of employee), same relative compensation (talk to an accountant). The firm is not asking its vendors nor contractors to vaccinate, only employees.
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This is easy.

EEOC gives the following guidance and would take her case if she used a religious exemption and they still forced it. Being attorneys, they will back off. You could also state due to underlying health conditions or that she is allergic to ingredients in the shot she cannot risk taking it at this time. It is ILLEGAL for an employer to force the vaccine because it was never FDA approved and is still considered an experimental vaccine.

Front line workers are required to get TB skin tests and various other health tests due to the nature of their job. They can also claim a religious exemption.

Recently, the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) clarified in its updated guidance that employers may be able to mandate the COVID-19 vaccine among their employees in certain circumstances without running afoul of key federal anti-discrimination laws. This does not necessarily mean that you can force all your workers to get COVID-19 shots, as there are numerous issues you will face if you choose to mandate vaccinations. One such issue is an employee's refusal to get the vaccine based on their sincerely held religious beliefs.
[link to www.fisherphillips.com (secure)]

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You can't get unemployment if you quit.

Just get fired.
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You don't even need an excuse at moment. It's not FDA approved and its out under emergency authorization.



People need to be aware of their rights.
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This is easy.

EEOC gives the following guidance and would take her case if she used a religious exemption and they still forced it. Being attorneys, they will back off. You could also state due to underlying health conditions or that she is allergic to ingredients in the shot she cannot risk taking it at this time. It is ILLEGAL for an employer to force the vaccine because it was never FDA approved and is still considered an experimental vaccine.

Front line workers are required to get TB skin tests and various other health tests due to the nature of their job. They can also claim a religious exemption.

Recently, the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) clarified in its updated guidance that employers may be able to mandate the COVID-19 vaccine among their employees in certain circumstances without running afoul of key federal anti-discrimination laws. This does not necessarily mean that you can force all your workers to get COVID-19 shots, as there are numerous issues you will face if you choose to mandate vaccinations. One such issue is an employee's refusal to get the vaccine based on their sincerely held religious beliefs.
[link to www.fisherphillips.com (secure)]
 Quoting: bornbananas
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This is easy.

EEOC gives the following guidance and would take her case if she used a religious exemption and they still forced it. Being attorneys, they will back off. You could also state due to underlying health conditions or that she is allergic to ingredients in the shot she cannot risk taking it at this time. It is ILLEGAL for an employer to force the vaccine.

Front line workers are required to get TB skin tests and various other health tests due to the nature of their job. They can also claim a religious exemption.

Recently, the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) clarified in its updated guidance that employers may be able to mandate the COVID-19 vaccine among their employees in certain circumstances without running afoul of key federal anti-discrimination laws. This does not necessarily mean that you can force all your workers to get COVID-19 shots, as there are numerous issues you will face if you choose to mandate vaccinations. One such issue is an employee's refusal to get the vaccine based on their sincerely held religious beliefs.
[link to www.fisherphillips.com (secure)]
 Quoting: bornbananas


Thank you so much, good info.
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On May 16th they'll figure out their bluff was called, and they'll have to make a decision.

Keep your employees, or CANT FIND EMPLOYEES to fill their positions.

Use their fucking system against them. They don't like that much.
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That has worked in EVERY CASE, from attempted federal (nation wide) requirements to small business.

They need majority compliance for their 'mandate' to work.
When they don't get the majority to comply, they quietly drop the 'mandate' and let it slide.

Every
single
time.
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If this is a lawfirm, they may be working an angle on this.

There may be a reason they're trying to do this for financial/lawsuit purposes.
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What can you do to stop this BS. My daughter works for a Lawyer Firm that doesn't even see clients but was told today she had to get her Vaccine by May 15. What should she do? Quit or wait to get fired? Would love to hear what GLPer's have to say about this.
 Quoting: Shustah


My wife has worked for the same man for over 20 years ....

And He is catholic and my wife dont wear a mask at work...Nor does he push ANYTHING ON HER...AT ALL

He asked if her Religion allows vaccines ...Said only if there is NO BLOOD IN IT ..WHICH THERE IS ....SO NO...

And he said its ok...He is fine with it ...

Without my wife ,HE said himself ..he forgot how to do most things ...

But he is a super nice lawyer ...YA ...i know right ...But he really is ..

He told my wife he will be retiring in 2 years ...Which is good..

Because im not sure how much longer she can hold out ...

Because my wife has a hereditary Lung problem,where its hard for her get o2 as it is with NO MASK...HE KNOWS THIS ...

So my wife after this will go on disability because what she has is really a death sentence ..

Sad really ...But her boss is cool with all ..And if he was not...HE WOULD SPEAK...HE DONT PLAY AROUND ....
Romans 14:11 It is written:
“‘As surely as I live,’ says the Lord,
‘every knee will bow before me;
every tongue will acknowledge God.

Revelation 20:15 Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire.





GLP