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Study: Because of reasons, whole truth omitted in communication about vaccine efficacy and effectiveness

 
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Study: Because of reasons, whole truth omitted in communication about vaccine efficacy and effectiveness
FYI:
OVID-19 vaccine efficacy and effectiveness—the elephant (not) in the room
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"There are many lessons to learn from the way studies are conducted and results are presented. With the use of only RRRs, and omitting ARRs, reporting bias is introduced, which affects the interpretation of vaccine efficacy.10"

"Unfortunately, comparing vaccines on the basis of currently available trial (interim) data is made even more difficult by disparate study protocols, including primary endpoints (such as what is considered a COVID-19 case, and when is this assessed), types of placebo, study populations, background risks of COVID-19 during the study, duration of exposure, and different definitions of populations for analyses both within and between studies, as well as definitions of endpoints and statistical methods for efficacy. Importantly, we are left with the unanswered question as to whether a vaccine with a given efficacy in the study population will have the same efficacy in another population with different levels of background risk of COVID-19."

Very much in line with what Prof. Bhakdi is saying about claims regarding efficacy and effectiveness:
"Uncoordinated phase 3 trials do not satisfy public health requirements; platform trials designed to address public health relevant questions with a common protocol will allow decisions to be made, informed by common criteria and uniform assessment. These considerations on efficacy and effectiveness are based on studies measuring prevention of mild to moderate COVID-19 infection; they were not designed to conclude on prevention of hospitalisation, severe disease, or death, or on prevention of infection and transmission potential."
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04/27/2021 02:46 AM
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Re: Study: Because of reasons, whole truth omitted in communication about vaccine efficacy and effectiveness
Vaccine efficacy and effectiveness is to be weighted against risk.
What they are currently doing with the new Covid vaccines (experimental treatment) is implying high effectiveness. Which is a fat lie (see above, they use tricks and have no sufficient data, exactly what also Bhakdi was saying).
When Fauci and others say "highly effective", they are either not informed or they lie. Fauci is a doctor (AFAIK), politiciens might just be uninformed about these facts.

When looking into different age groups, this lie becomes even more disgusting.
Younger people have not been very much at risk from Covid-19, it really might NOT be worth for these groups taking the risk of severe side-effects (including death e.g. due to blood clots) in order to prevent mild disease.

Compromised communication via the media and lacking data are no basis for these groups to reach informed consent. People are currently basically tricked into taking great risks.
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04/27/2021 02:50 AM
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The bad coordination of the trials currently being done, will NOT help to make people better informed in the long run either.

It will, however, help to continue to trick them into taking potentially grave risks.

This should not be acceptable.
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04/27/2021 03:20 AM
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Re: Study: Because of reasons, whole truth omitted in communication about vaccine efficacy and effectiveness
Absolute risk is the size of your own risk. Absolute risk reduction is the number of percentage points your own risk goes down if you do something protective, such as stop drinking alcohol. The size of your absolute risk reduction depends on what your risk is to begin with.

RRR (Relative Risk Reduction) and ARR (Absolute Risk Reduction).

FDA guidelines for communicating evidence based risks and benefits to the public - quote: “Provide absolute risks, not just relative risks. Patients are unduly influenced when risk information is presented using a relative risk approach: this can result in supoptimal decisions. Thus an absolute risk format should be used”. .
..Did any of the vaccine trials release Absolute Risk Reductions? Nope. Omitting absolute risk reduction findings in reports of vaccine efficacy is an example of outcome reporting bias, which ignores unfavourable outcomes and misleads the public’s impression and scientific understanding of a treatments efficacy and benefits.

Several researchers have taken the figures quoted in the phase 3 trials and concluded:
Pfizer reported RRR efficacy? 95%.
Pfizer ARR? 0.7%.
Moderna efficacy? 94%.
Moderna ARR? 1.1%


To conclude: Absolute risk is the size of your own risk. Absolute risk reduction is the number of percentage points your own risk goes down if you do something protective, such as taking this jab. The size of your absolute risk reduction depends on what your risk is to begin with, and per the phase 3 trial data, the trial participants experienced only a 0.7% - 1.1% Reduction in Risk of developing symptomatic covid by taking this jab.

It truly shows why the media nor gov nor big pharma will even mention the absolute risk reduction - NOBODY WOULD TAKE THE DAMN JAB - because the risk reduction to oneself is not worth it let alone worth it in face of all the medium and long term health impacts of taking an experimental gene tech. They also will not mention it because it would expose the fall to of their claims that mass vaccination is behind the lowering of cases and deaths
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04/27/2021 03:23 AM
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"The case against science is straightforward: much of the scientific literature, perhaps half, may simply be untrue."
-- The Lancet
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04/27/2021 03:32 AM
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An easy example of how absolute risk reduction rates should be always communicated:
Your absolute risk of dying from Ebola in the USA is so minuscule that it’s practically nil, 0%.
But big pharma can come along with its new Ebola vaccine and claim that’s its 95% effective against dying from Ebola.

The population that can no longer reason does not stop to ever consider that without that vaccine their risk of dying from Ebola is all but 0%. In other words, the absolute risk reduction to themselves by taking the vaccine is practically 0% as well, the benefit to themselves NOT BEING WORTH TAKING THE POTENTIAL HEALTH ADVERSE EFFECTS OF TAKING THE JAB.

This is important to remember when the gov and its media keep telling us that the benefits of taking the covid shots outweigh the risks?

Do they really?

Pfizer reported RRR efficacy? 95%.
Pfizer ARR? 0.7%.
Moderna efficacy? 94%.
Pfizer ARR? 1.1%

The red is the absolute risk reduction in developing symptomatic covid that the trial participants experienced? Is that low risk reduction worth it?
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04/27/2021 03:37 AM

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Re: Study: Because of reasons, whole truth omitted in communication about vaccine efficacy and effectiveness
The type of hoodwinking shown in this thread, is how the religion of scientism is in general able to try to tout itself as “pure scientific method”; and followers of the cult just eat it up.

“Because of reasons” chuckle
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Re: Study: Because of reasons, whole truth omitted in communication about vaccine efficacy and effectiveness
The type of hoodwinking shown in this thread, is how the religion of scientism is in general able to try to tout itself as “pure scientific method”; and followers of the cult just eat it up.

“Because of reasons” chuckle
 Quoting: Asuralikeproduction


*The science* is indeed religion.
It has its priests *the scientists*.
It has its dogma to be believed as infallible and on faith.
It mandates all believe its theories as the truth.
It labels dissenters of itself as heretics.
It relies on slight of hand, misinformation and sorcery.
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Re: Study: Because of reasons, whole truth omitted in communication about vaccine efficacy and effectiveness
The type of hoodwinking shown in this thread, is how the religion of scientism is in general able to try to tout itself as “pure scientific method”; and followers of the cult just eat it up.

“Because of reasons” chuckle
 Quoting: Asuralikeproduction


*The science* is indeed religion.
It has its priests *the scientists*.
It has its dogma to be believed as infallible and on faith.
It mandates all believe its theories as the truth.
It labels dissenters of itself as heretics.
It relies on slight of hand, misinformation and sorcery.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80213392


Thank you, that's often the angle people aren't getting.





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