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"There Is No Shortage?" Train Loads Of Lumber Stacked As Far As The Eye Can See

 
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"There Is No Shortage?" Train Loads Of Lumber Stacked As Far As The Eye Can See
One of the most important things we've learned over the past year is the vulnerability of global supply chains. Most notably, supply disruptions of lumber have catapulted prices to the moon.

The narrative touted in the public domain is that COVID-19 sparked a dramatic underestimate in capacity by sawmills early in the pandemic as the Federal Reserve slashed interest rates to zero, sparking a housing boom. The influx of demand outpaced supply and has caused lumber prices to jump 340% from a year ago, according to Random Lengths.

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That lumber "far as the eye can see" wouldn't complete one McMansion.
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All Manufactured scarcity.

Lumber yards all over stacked to capacity.

People have actually been setting up their own lumber mills and selling rough cuts to builders, under the table.

Getting news reports of construction sites being robbed of their materials already. They have started posting guards. lol

Amazing world we are living in.
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I've been hearing that the prices have gone up so much, that Building companies are either renegotiating building prices, or walking away.

Renegotiating prices sometimes 3-4 times as the price just keeps going up, and orders going unfilled.
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local Rona i drive by often has so much lumber they have it stacked up in the parking lot
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One of the most important things we've learned over the past year is the vulnerability of global supply chains. Most notably, supply disruptions of lumber have catapulted prices to the moon.

The narrative touted in the public domain is that COVID-19 sparked a dramatic underestimate in capacity by sawmills early in the pandemic as the Federal Reserve slashed interest rates to zero, sparking a housing boom. The influx of demand outpaced supply and has caused lumber prices to jump 340% from a year ago, according to Random Lengths.

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The price increase is more about demand, more people want lumber so prices increase to keep supply evenly distributed. The are minor shortages but nothing major, if they hadn't of increased prices we would have seen major shortages.
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Did you know Fidelity Investments owns one of the world's largest saw mills and lumber yards ? Do you care?
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Most houses on the market in my region recently has lumber harvested.

Of course it all BS!

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Every day I see huge amounts of lumber on traincars
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I never understood why commodity shortage translates to higher prices
Why would you pay more for a product-just becos the seller is taking advantage
By agreeing to pay more for goods--you're encouraging price gougers & creating inflation
If prices go up--dont buy
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Did you know Fidelity Investments owns one of the world's largest saw mills and lumber yards ? Do you care?
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In the P.N.W. the logging has been going gangbusters.

Yet the prices at the 'box-stores' are up substantially.
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Battle lumber's mill in Georgia has loads stacks 3-4 'pallets' higher than normal and no apparent slow down on production.

Box store prices con't to rise....Thanks Davos!
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All Manufactured scarcity.

Lumber yards all over stacked to capacity.

People have actually been setting up their own lumber mills and selling rough cuts to builders, under the table.

Getting news reports of construction sites being robbed of their materials already. They have started posting guards. lol

Amazing world we are living in.
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Hardly amazing but very much criminal
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I've been hearing that the prices have gone up so much, that Building companies are either renegotiating building prices, or walking away.

Renegotiating prices sometimes 3-4 times as the price just keeps going up, and orders going unfilled.
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Members of my family own a building business. My grandson said he quotes a price to build a home for a client, and two weeks later, the prices go up.

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All Manufactured scarcity.

Lumber yards all over stacked to capacity.

People have actually been setting up their own lumber mills and selling rough cuts to builders, under the table.

Getting news reports of construction sites being robbed of their materials already. They have started posting guards. lol

Amazing world we are living in.
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Plenty of logging going on in my neck of the woods, southern Oregon. Constant logging trucks all day long.
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Every day I see huge amounts of lumber on traincars
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One of the most important things we've learned over the past year is the vulnerability of global supply chains. Most notably, supply disruptions of lumber have catapulted prices to the moon.

The narrative touted in the public domain is that COVID-19 sparked a dramatic underestimate in capacity by sawmills early in the pandemic as the Federal Reserve slashed interest rates to zero, sparking a housing boom. The influx of demand outpaced supply and has caused lumber prices to jump 340% from a year ago, according to Random Lengths.

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The dollar is devaluing wait till it hits bottoming July!fuckyeah5
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One of the most important things we've learned over the past year is the vulnerability of global supply chains. Most notably, supply disruptions of lumber have catapulted prices to the moon.

The narrative touted in the public domain is that COVID-19 sparked a dramatic underestimate in capacity by sawmills early in the pandemic as the Federal Reserve slashed interest rates to zero, sparking a housing boom. The influx of demand outpaced supply and has caused lumber prices to jump 340% from a year ago, according to Random Lengths.

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The dollar is devaluing wait till it hits bottoming July!fuckyeah5
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100% wrong, check the usd vs any other currency this year vs last and it’s dead on.
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Preparing for construction of FEMA coffins.
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The hand full of lumber mills that supply the chain are colluding. The government wont step in to break it up, so why not just fuck us over real good?
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looks like JP morgan took a position in lumber and they are making it work
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I don't think there is a shortage of anything but labor. There's a ton of lumber but a huge demand! Some of it is going overseas.
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Its because of inflation.. They cannot sell it for profit..

So it will just sit there... Till, they can sell it at.. Cost!
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I never understood why commodity shortage translates to higher prices
Why would you pay more for a product-just becos the seller is taking advantage
By agreeing to pay more for goods--you're encouraging price gougers & creating inflation
If prices go up--dont buy
A dollar saved is 2 dollars earned
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I can provide example on manufacturing plant.
Lets say you own a manufacturing company that makes something out of 6-12 ingredients, you employ 100+ people and you have 2-3 competitors.
Suddenly one of raw materials is getting harder to get and price skyrocketed, only one, however that one material takes about 40% of your formulation.
Now from that point you’ll have $500k-$1m in raw materials tied up that you cannot utilize due to the lack of other material, payroll, other expenses and possibility of your company going belly up due to competitors are willing to pay higher prices to keep manufacturing going without raising their prices significantly.
Now make that 3-4 raw materials is getting harder to get and prices are going up, at that point price increase is imminent from both you and your competitors.
Something like that.

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One of the most important things we've learned over the past year is the vulnerability of global supply chains. Most notably, supply disruptions of lumber have catapulted prices to the moon.

The narrative touted in the public domain is that COVID-19 sparked a dramatic underestimate in capacity by sawmills early in the pandemic as the Federal Reserve slashed interest rates to zero, sparking a housing boom. The influx of demand outpaced supply and has caused lumber prices to jump 340% from a year ago, according to Random Lengths.

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All Manufactured scarcity.

Lumber yards all over stacked to capacity.

People have actually been setting up their own lumber mills and selling rough cuts to builders, under the table.

Getting news reports of construction sites being robbed of their materials already. They have started posting guards. lol

Amazing world we are living in.
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Exactly. All the scarcity doomers on here are hilarious.
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Nobody said there was as shortage and you shouldn't repeat it.
Prices are up because they CAN be.
Because the market will bear it.
Capitalism.
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