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In suicide danger zone and nowhere to turn

 
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It could be some evil group trying to drive you to suicide, they're able to do this from a distance.

Stay alive just to annoy them.

Then find a way to help others, whether humans or critters.
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HAH, these are very true suggestions, valuable and kind hearted as well as sensible, sensitive, and helpful. Go9d hearted people. We care about one another, obviously.
We care for YOU, and send y pi our concerns and great sympathy and love.
I am going to pray for you right now, now, before i sleep to IAUE ALMIGHTY in YAHUSHUA'S NAME that THEY COMFORT TH OU ... and save you. I feel this same way too, although it is because of my children and beloved animals i feel same way ... please hold on, hang on, for i teuly feel that we only need to for a little bit longer, then the whole world comes to a quick and dramatic end. You will want to see how it goes down, as it will be historical.

Like hold on for the end of May, and the 10th of JUNE, maybe the day after... June 11, we should see some great things, huge things, soon my dear friend.

My best friend was from Belgium, Renata DeWolf. I really miss her.

GOODNIGHT AND NOT TO WORRY, YOU WILL HAVE HOUR MATE AGAIN, AND SHE WANTS TH OH TO LIVE TO SEE THIS SO YOU CAN TELL HER ABOUT IT FIRSTHAND. WHEN IT HAPPENS, YOU WILL MEET HER IN THE AIR. TOGETHER WITH ALL THE OTHER GOOD PEOPLE and animals WHO HAVE DIED BEFORE THE END. And forever, together, with our Creators.

It will be soon. Just wait and watch. Drink so e nice hot herbal organic tea, or organic regular tea... and say so e nice things to your self, and have a bit of organic wine, and watch an old movie, like a Bette Davis movie, or a classic like South Pacifi , or Gone with the Wind, or a series like Faulty Towers, maybe. Maybe not though. Watch the Remains ofbthe Day with Anthony Hopkins, if it is not sad too much for hou. You can think back to what hou have had, as most people never have had anything close to thAT, WHAT YOU HAD, HAVE, WITH HER. LOVE DOES NOT EVER DIE, JUST BECAUSE A PERSON DOES. THE LOVE IS THERE FOR HOU WITH YOU, STILL, THEIR LOVE FOR Y OU. IT REMAINS INTACT, AND IS A LIVING THING.

YOU COULD WATCH movie, SMILE,PINKY, an Indian documentary which is going to make you feel differently.

HAVE S9ME CHOCOLATE WITHOUT SUGAR, LIBBY'S with only stevia used to sweeten it, dark chocolate.

Nuts, dried fruits, fresh fruit salads, macaroni and cheese with Gruyere,... eat what y ou love, order it or make something y ou used to make for her and then eat it as though she is right here with you. She wants you not to be sad.
AND IT WILL BE MADE TO NEVER HAVE HAPPENED TO HER, VERY VERY SOON.

GOODNIGHT MAY IAUE COMFORT YOU AND PROTECT YOU, BLESS YOU
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No proof.... just wishful theistic thinking. Biblical Archeology fails all the time.
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That's good to know. I'll give it a look anyway, but yeah, lots of bible related things don't add up or are force fitted. Lots of events from the past are left out that should have been mentioned in the bible. It also doesn't clarify much nor give good spiritual advice. It gives no indication to the complete lies and darkness we have been living in for centuries. And it does not describe the apostate people of this century who are sleepwalking to their own death and turning on their own kind. Complete zombie cannibalism. A few cryptic lines here and there that could be tied to any number of scenarios doesn't exactly inspire confidence.
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Why don't you know Jesus Christ?

Because you have not wanted to.
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I do know Jesus Christ. There's something off about the bible though, you can't deny that.
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I hope you’re feeling better today. Can you expand on your idea that there’s something off with the Bible?
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Thank you every single one of you for your suggestions. This is by far the nicest people have ever been to me, and it feels alien and awkward.
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That's good to know. I'll give it a look anyway, but yeah, lots of bible related things don't add up or are force fitted. Lots of events from the past are left out that should have been mentioned in the bible. It also doesn't clarify much nor give good spiritual advice. It gives no indication to the complete lies and darkness we have been living in for centuries. And it does not describe the apostate people of this century who are sleepwalking to their own death and turning on their own kind. Complete zombie cannibalism. A few cryptic lines here and there that could be tied to any number of scenarios doesn't exactly inspire confidence.
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Why don't you know Jesus Christ?

Because you have not wanted to.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80351123


I do know Jesus Christ. There's something off about the bible though, you can't deny that.
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I hope you’re feeling better today. Can you expand on your idea that there’s something off with the Bible?
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For example, we don't know why the lineages are traced so extensively in the OT. And why it should matter, since at this point genealogic history doesn't determine if someone is of Christ or not.

There are some stuff which feel like they fit earlier civilizations much better, such as Mystery Babylon. I can imagine that civilizations of the past must have been much more decadent than what we have now.

There's no mention of Atlantis and other such past civilizations.


There's mention of giants, but put there more as an afterthought, and no explanation that they were interdimensional. Assuming that's what they are.

People focus on a future mark of the beast and how you will be killed if you don't take it, yet ignore the roman legal system which they have lived in for centuries, where you literally can't survive if you don't register as a legal entity and sign contracts with them to be enslaved to them.

Overall, the book of revelation is complex and seems to have lots of hidden messages, but I can't shake off the feeling that it was probably written or edited by the illuminati to drive their desirable outcomes. It's really just intuition at this point, or maybe I'm not spiritually mature enough to receive its wisdom.

Chuck Missler was mentioned earlier in this thread. He's one of the few people who analytical bible scholars resonate with, yet it seems that he was a Freemason. Of course, he could have walked away from that, I haven't looked into this enough. But I did try to read his stuff last year and there didn't seem to be enough spirit in his work. Knowing now that he was a freemason, it makes it likely that he was a disinfo agent the whole time.

I haven't read the whole bible yet, but there is definitely more than one god there, all being described as 'god'. So someone did change some things, at the very least regarding this, to make people confused and obfuscate things.

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dont do it
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the road is long and hard, your journeys not done yet, you still have more to do and learn, dont stop now. there will be better times ahead, so wait and see, you will do better.
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Craziest thing I ever did see.
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Insert positivity!!!

Get the death thoughts out, they will consume you!
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I've hard a hard life but managed to survive, because there always seemed to be hope for a better tomorrow. Not much success still but hope was enough. Even despite the covid hopelessness and the inevitable fascist takeover and slavery.

But since my SO passed a few months ago, it's as if something broke in me. I couldn't take care of myself, just enough to survive but now it's as if that bottom has been pulled off and there's no support. It seems like a one way street straight to death.

The amount of self neglect that I've been exhibiting is at an all-time low or close, but scarier is that I have no will to live anymore. The thing that made me survive much tougher times.

It's like there's nothing standing between me and death.

At least I can vent on GLP without getting stupid advice like seeing a psychologist lol.
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Right here OP-

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Insert positivity!!!

Get the death thoughts out, they will consume you!
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Drinking certainly helps.
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I've hard a hard life but managed to survive, because there always seemed to be hope for a better tomorrow. Not much success still but hope was enough. Even despite the covid hopelessness and the inevitable fascist takeover and slavery.

But since my SO passed a few months ago, it's as if something broke in me. I couldn't take care of myself, just enough to survive but now it's as if that bottom has been pulled off and there's no support. It seems like a one way street straight to death.

The amount of self neglect that I've been exhibiting is at an all-time low or close, but scarier is that I have no will to live anymore. The thing that made me survive much tougher times.

It's like there's nothing standing between me and death.

At least I can vent on GLP without getting stupid advice like seeing a psychologist lol.
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Right here OP-


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Hard to act like a man when you're a woman, without losing your identity... but I get your point. Thanks.

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bible study is something I'm interested in as a non religious person who found Christ last year (before the death of my SO)
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OP there is a reason for this timing, think about it, really do.

Jesus/God Knew this would be difficult for you, and I am sure help is being given, but this one comment of yours speaks, volumes, shows grace moving in your life.

NEVER be a Murderer to others or yourself, its the same, infact some say to do it to oneself is WORSE as a Sin.

I wont try and give cliches, or the usual, yes it f****ing hurts, Yes it is all pervasive. NO there is NOT a magic wand that will amke it all happy happy clappy straight away.

Please though go to grief councselling, locally and in crisis NOW:

Phone or use : [link to www.samaritans.org (secure)]

THEY ARE NOT PAID IN ANY WAY ITS ALL VOLUNTARY MOST HAVE IN FACT BEEN EXACTLY WHERE YOU ARE THEMSELVES IN THE PAST!

Anom non judgemental, just call them my friend.

Look into the Classic Stages of Grief the Kubler Ross ones, Know where you are, which one in, then you can understand the situation more, and try and see it as just something that happens to all after such a loss, however like others it is a journey and there is a change at each step of the way, it DOES and it WILL FOR YOU get better, as BILLIONS of people throughout all of history have found.

Dont let anyone tell you how long or how you should feel or be, it is your journey, though know that yes eventually you will be out of it, taking care of yourself and have life and joy and light increasing in your life.

If you think you really might self harm, just go to the doctor and get some meds (though I dont particularly advocate or like them, they CAN and DO help people if used in a short time period to take the edge of and get you through the next month or two).

I strongly suggest and think about you get ASAP a Kitten or a Puppy or a pet and very very quickly, one youve always wanted like this week, just do it.

PS in the Bible everywhere is mentions of Angels good and Bad, the bad ones will want to kick you when down, Call out every day to your Gaurdian Angel, ask for Healing, Protection, Strength, Guidance EVERY DAY.

There is a reason the bible and Jesus came into your life then.

May God Bless You.
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There might be truth to that grace moving thing, because this happened in 2 waves. First time was last year when my eyes were opened to spiritual truth in a vague way, then earlier this year Christ and my/our eternal connection to him was revealed in a way that makes any other truth, including this so-called reality seem like a complete joke.

I deserve to be murdered because my boyfriend died because of me. It was an accident and those happen, but the entire situation that allowed for this setup was caused by me. So, there is no help possible for me. And maybe a higher power can forgive me during judgement, idk. I don't want to be.

Doctors never helped out with meds when I really needed them. And voluntarily going into their system in which the chance exists that they can turn against you (e.g. involuntarily committing you or suicide watch) is playing with fire. And you might know the feeling like you're almost begging for meds but they still don't give you any. And this is from someone with no history of psych meds use and no reason for them to suspect abuse. Dark web has helped my life more than any doctor regarding this.

Guardian angels must definitely be a thing, some psychic people have encountered them and some meet them during a NDE. Pretty cool stuff.
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OP it sounds like your sense of despair is tied to a couple of things

1) The world is corrupt, full of lies and led by demented psychopaths. The majority seem ignorant to these truths and for you it makes you feel angry, frustrated, helpless to bring real change, so what is the point of going on?

2) You have had a hard life, and been on the edge of ending it many times, and only your SO kept you pushing on. You never developed, or believe you never developed an inner desire/strength/foundation to keep going.

3) You think you, although an accident, are responsible for your SO death. lot of guilt and despair.

I think you need to tackle these one by one.

For the first one everything you say about the rulers on earth and the masses is true. However, being shown the truth, while at times feels overwhelming and bleak, is actually a GIFT. An incredible beautiful gift that enables you more and more to abide in the truth, feel its power to anchor you, and gift you discernment. So, no matter how much fear and chaos the rulers unleash, within your being you stay calm and anchored to truth.

Maybe every day try saying Thank You for this gift and keep saying Thank you and the more you do the more your energy will transform as the gift of truth/discernment is fueled by the gift of gratitude/joy. B y doing this you will grow to have compassion for the many who are living in a fog of lies and maybe, if you are lucky/blessed, something you say or do will help even just one of them remove some of the lies blinding them.

2) I think practicing gratitude here helps. It is too easy and a trap to focus on all the negatives. Doing so not only stunts our growth it clouds our ability to learn and grow from what life sends us. So while you can not stop that kind of thinking over night you can begin a new way of thinking. It took me a long time of just saying thank you for the — sun, rain, day,, flowers, moon,a roof over my head, etc — it changes your chemistry and shows you that you and only you have the POWER to choose what you think and focus on.

3). I don’t know the circumstances of your SO death, and losing a love one is for everyone very painful. Time helps, but also focusing on all the joy you had together, on who he was etc instead of just the loss helps the pain become more fluid. Yes, you will still feel it but it will be mixed with waves of joy and gratitude for having him in your life etc.

We are all gone in a blink of an eye, OP. The fact any of us are alive in the first place is a miracle, when you look at all the factors that had to align to make it happen! You are loved, you are special OP, we all are.
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Just to say hope you are doing well OP
There might be truth to that grace moving thing, because this happened in 2 waves. First time was last year when my eyes were opened to spiritual truth in a vague way, then earlier this year Christ and my/our eternal connection to him was revealed in a way that makes any other truth, including this so-called reality seem like a complete joke.

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Often grace will turn up, come before or during a time that it is like a hint, nudge, saying look I am here in the darkest most difficult moments of our life.
There is a classic painting I am not sure if you have seen it it is here, please see it [link to www.stpauls.co.uk (secure)]

It shows Jesus with his Lantern, and the door has no handle on the outside. Though he knocks and waits for us to open the door to him, he asks permission, it can only be opened from the inside, that is by you my friend.

I am pretty sure and your experience seems to collaborate this, the movements of grace are Jesus knocking louder at this time and just before, knowing what was and is happening for you.

It is up to you though to open it and let his Light shine inside you to help take away (again sometimes miracles happen, though even with such grace usually it is not a magic wand, a candle in a dark valley, gives hope, we can see and not stumble and fall, a dim star that a seafarer knows will lead from the stormy sea if he keeps fixed on it, and uses it to keep heading his ship in that direction, and uses it to guide to the port/harbour of dry land again and a new start and journey).

More on that painting here:

The door represents the human soul, which cannot be opened from the outside. There is no handle on the door, and the rusty nails and hinges overgrown with ivy denote that the door has never been opened and that the figure of Christ is asking permission to enter. The morning star appears near Christ, the dawn of a new day, and the autumn weeds and fallen fruit represent the autumn of life. The writing beneath the picture, is taken from Revelation 3 ‘Behold I stand at the door and knock. If any man hear my voice and open the door I will come in to him and will sup with him and he with me.’

[link to www.stpauls.co.uk (secure)]


I deserve to be murdered because my boyfriend died because of me. It was an accident and those happen, but the entire situation that allowed for this setup was caused by me. So, there is no help possible for me. And maybe a higher power can forgive me during judgement, idk. I don't want to be.
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You as you say and your boyfriend had an Accident happen.

Accidents are not pre planned I will do this. If you can be honest, and think if somehow you had been told before whatever things you did to contribute to the set-up situation, and were one hundred percent sure and knew that by doing, or being involved in that, your boyfriend would have been involved in the accident and you where given the following 2 choices:

Will you do knowing what will happen, your boyfriend will die in this accident if you do x/y/z? Choose to do now x/y/z?

Or Do you choose now knowing this will happen to make sure x/y/z never happen as best as you can?

Which do you answer?

If its the second one, be aware of something about “culpability”. It is a known teaching and Jesus states it much in the bible, that knowledge of what the effects of something we do play a huge part in how it is judged or deemed.

Like in Law Courts on the earth. So for example a person should not have been hungover with 2 hours sleep and still slightly tipsy after their birthday night out. They pick up a gun at the firing range, they have not made it safe as they should. They have ear muffs on, someone taps them on the shoulder they get spooked startled and turn around and doing so the gun falls and sets itself of. The person is shot dead.

Is very very very very different from:

A man picks up a Gun drives past a “gang” that is different from his gang and have offended his gang in some stupid argument about territory. He shoots 3 people he has never known because they are in the garden of the Gang leader of his rival. NONE of them die though are badly injured.

VERILY I say to you with much confidence, the second person is more culpable of murder than the first, as it was his intention, what it was done for etc., and a millimetre to the side or up and down those people could have been killed.

TRULY which category are you really really in?

What you are experiencing is the Guilt part of what happened, someone or something needs to be blamed please my friend see it for what it is, as you stated an Accident. Now that word actually is defined as it's true meaning and therefore the meaning of what really happened, rather than the guilt you place on it, to yourself

“something bad that happens that is not expected or intended and that often damages something or injures someone
[link to dictionary.cambridge.org (secure)]

Not expected or intended is the truth yes?

So in both the Old Testament and also in Jesus words, and indeed all the teachers of nearly all religions this is very very clearly defined. So for example:

“Determination of culpability on the basis of intention is evident from Num. 35:16-34 and Deut. 19:4-6. A man who "without knowledge" (bivli da'at) or unintentionally slays his neighbor “does not deserve to die” (cf. Josh. 20:3). If the one who commits unintentional man slaughter is killed by the "avenger of blood," God regards it as the shedding of innocent blood (Deut. 19:10). “ so God would consider anyone who as you stated even if by your own hand the following:
I deserve to be murdered because my boyfriend died because of me. It was an accident and those happen,
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Much more sinful an actual Sin than anything that has happened!

You suffering, being murdered, taking your own life helps no-one, makes an accident to then become murder REAL as you, due to your situation and no judgement here, perceive it to have been when it is not. YOU cannot and had no culpability in this accident did not desire it want it?
Than yet by wanting to be dead and murdered, or take your own life you then do the very thing that you blame yourself for that is just a error of perception.

Now I have placed you in a double bind, as for example someone committing a sin without it being a Sin is certainly not at so much blame and fault as Jesus said here, backing up what was taught in the Old Testament:

”"That servant who knew the will of his lord ... and did not act according to his will, will be beaten with many stripes. But he that knew not, and did things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes."

[link to exegeticalthoughts.Nope]

You know you are wishing intending harm and murder on you, what about the person who would do it? Do you want them to then have that Sin and be damned or carry real guilt of an act, that you carry of one you are not responsible for?

Do by you continuing to desire wish this or consider doing it yourself, knowing it is a Sin, suicide is Murder of the self, then think that will not get its full Mortal Punishment?

So knowing the truth and teachings of this, if you can see the reality of the situation, remind yourself of this and your job is to get past this, to find strategies, ways, and solutions to move through, and out of this and break this habit of those thoughts, to see them as they are thoughts and feelings that hurt are powerful yes but in reality reminding yourself are actually not true, cause much more offence harm and bad and evil than anything that drives the misplaced guilt and such like that creates them.

Ultimately they are lies, you did not do this on purpose.

If there is anything about negative unwanted aspects of your lifestyle, behaviour, parts of yourself that led to the “set up” that caused this, this is where to focus and change, Rather than harm yourself, or wish others to harm you, or harm on yourself, find a way so that those habits, behaviours, and what you may have done that could have contributed to the “set up” that are development areas, or parts of yourself you feel think are not good or wholesome, are removed, changed, stopped and have no more part of your and others lives in the future.

Anger which is part of the process you may be in in your journey of the stages of grief, often if not externally displayed or focused, can if then internally focused create Guilt, Shame, Self Sabotage, etc.
See it for what it really is.

When I in the past have had such experiences and was aware they where starting, something not just I however many many others have found is extremely beneficial, is to do one of the following. Get to the gym, really really push yourself, at least 3 times a week, or find a local martial arts (not all gentle calming yoga tai chi stuff) club, it will help shift these emotions and focus in a controlled and safe way externally.
WALK if not wanted in the day due to not taking care of self and wanting to be alone, at night in a safe area, at least 1-2 hours a day, or in the day in areas of nature, walk quickly as an exercise.

Doctors never helped out with meds when I really needed them. And voluntarily going into their system in which the chance exists that they can turn against you (e.g. involuntarily committing you or suicide watch) is playing with fire. And you might know the feeling like you're almost begging for meds but they still don't give you any. And this is from someone with no history of psych meds use and no reason for them to suspect abuse.
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Yes there is that concern and you are right, I have worked Psych wards secure, been part of section process on people, I no longer work in that part of the system, partially because of what you mention.

However my friend, if you were to be very careful in your wording, esp as you say there is no prior contact with this part of medicine in your file, go to your doctor, explain that you have lost a loved one in a tragic way, it was your partner, you know you are depressed, not taking care of yourself, feel flat and just want something to help you for 4-8 weeks take the edge of, with no need to mention any suicide thoughts.
I am pretty certain you would get a prescrip with no worries. And for a Med that is appropriate.

If they ask you of any suicide thoughts you can answer however you want to, please be aware I doubt if there is a person alive, who has not at some part of their life thought about it. I do not condone lying however if it protects you and keeps you safe and helps you get through this, well its not as if it is a bad thing, the outcome is positive.

Dark web has helped my life more than any doctor regarding this.
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I say the above paragraph due to this, Meds are complex and if you are on any meds and you get take the wrong combination they can be very dangerous. Also it may cause you problems with the police which is the last thing you need right now. In addition you do not know the true source of them if real, fake or made in a Lab where they make illegal Meds, they are probably stolen if real. There is a whole can of worms with that, and also a great danger of you getting addicted.

Please go to the Doctor, be careful in your wording around one thing, get your safe legal prescription, and promise yourself it is for x amount of weeks and you can then come of them in an slow controlled way. If you have started any that are in the class of bi carb s, get to your Doctor ASAP to change to different ones and don't take both together, take them to a Bin and throw them out, start the others.


Guardian angels must definitely be a thing, some psychic people have encountered them and some meet them during a NDE. Pretty cool stuff.
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Oh they are all religions all cultures talk, teach of them. Unfortunately the good ones have in the unseen world their opposites as well. And they will always like predators take advantage of a injured or wounded part of the herd as such.

I strongly advise you ask every day and much for help from your Guardian Angel, here is a classic prayer that all children should say as they learn to read and continue into adulthood every morning

Angel of God
My Guardian Dear
By whom God's Love entrusts you here,
Ever this day and night
be at my side
to Love and Guard
to Rule and to Guide
(in a similar situation I added the below and it helped)
Please Heal me,
Help Me,
Bless and Pray for Me,
Bring me the help I need,
Of this problem (state them)
I ask divine intervention to be freed.
Amen.

Call him he knows his name! No askee no getee!
For example bad thoughts feelings

“ My Guardian Angel please help me with this (thoughts feelings) I am having difficulty stopping it and I cant do it on my own, take it from me, help me please with this right now”

Here is some interesting info for you on Guardian Angels, from the last true great Saint the Monk St Pio, so many many miracles happened due to him, he had the visible wounds of christ, those who where born with no pupils actually saw, REALLY documented medical proof etc...



My friend nothing I am saying to you is medical, psychological, psychiatric, spiritual advice, etc., just a human being, speaking to you who has some experiences in some of the things you talked about. Just as I would a friend in the pub. I am not I promise you carefully wording, anything (except for doing a spell check after typing it), rather than just listening to what you said, understanding it from your point of view and not being part of it, and stuck overwhelmed in it myself, though having experience in how those who are, including my self in the past, as a human to human, showing you the terrain. And maybe some maps, a com pass to know where you are, why, which can be safe routes out of it, and wishing so much that you are freed from being stuck and wandering back to where you started, or taking a route that makes ttings worse than the initial situation.

You are someone who has experienced a loss and tragedy that is bad enough but has then the self blame which hopefully you can see is not valid in holding onto. It is an emotion a feeling and though very real and valid and powerful please do not drown in it, look for the shore, swim, let it go knowing that the truth is different to when it started, or you decided the self guilt, blame was true and valid, you can I am sure see from what Ive added in this post, it is not as real and true as it seems.

However what happens sometimes especially in crisis or shock is that a decision that is wrong or not really true can have a huge amount of emotion attached to that decision, like you have guilt that it was truly your full culpable fault and the guilt and shame as you work through it, replace it with the truth Ive shown, then it will get lighter and lighter. And find ways like we would a splin-ter to get it out of us, otherwise it can become embedded and infected as an analogy.

Anyone else would in their own way, have reactions to similar to what you have experienced on a scale and based on their support network and life. You were brave enough to be honest and say Hey I am struggling with this, so that shows you can ask for help, please use the Samaritans if you want to talk feel alone, feel overwhelmed for the reasons said.

If it was a friend and their life situation circumstances supported it including finances and accommodation I would take them a kitten and leave it with them, though they would probably not be happy at first at me, that wouldn't matter, get a pet really will help much if you choose to. It seems grace Jesus he is knocking at the door you can open it to help with his healing and light drive away the darkness within, and be a guiding star as such.

You can and will if you try and see this situation and thoughts feelings for what they truly are, and that yes its difficult, and yes it is a journey, however knowing others have experienced it and gone on and had happy, fulfilled and successful lives, and there are stages to work through that is perfectly normal and experienced by most who have been through this.

You are not to blame, if part of you needs to be fixed and changed so that whatever set it up and might be unwholesome, focus on that. The event was NOT your intention, fault, done on purpose and as you know did not want it to happen why blame yourself?

If you were happy it did then it would be a different situation.

Samaritans are fantastic and have no agenda than just helping others who have been where they where more often than not.

Prescribed Meds are safe, will if done carefully mean that you have less in regards on your Med file to do with any Pysch issues than 75% of of your doctors other patiants, and mean it is a bridge to help you cross this, not a lifelong problem to mask feeling working through it, and done in a safe and legal way.

May God Bless You.

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Jesus is not God?
Says who?
You?
So what.
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Where do I STATE that phrase?

All I do is point out OBVIOUS things.

1. Jesus NEVER said this - "I am God".
2. The Apostles NEVER said this - "Jesus IS God".
3. Jesus said...
..."the Father is the only true God"
..."the Father is My God and YOUR God".
I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God.
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Thank you every single one of you for your suggestions. This is by far the nicest people have ever been to me, and it feels alien and awkward.
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It's been over a week since you made this thread.

Any particularly good ideas stick thus far?

Could you go into a little more detail about the pair of spiritual experiences you mentioned earlier, with the second one making the first one seem like a joke?
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Thank you every single one of you for your suggestions. This is by far the nicest people have ever been to me, and it feels alien and awkward.
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It's been over a week since you made this thread.

Any particularly good ideas stick thus far?

Could you go into a little more detail about the pair of spiritual experiences you mentioned earlier, with the second one making the first one seem like a joke?
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Hey, thanks for coming back to this thread. Yeah, taking care of food and cleaning the house have been a good start.

I think I'll just hold out and wait for rapture for a few more months at the very least.

And I must have worded it wrongly, I meant that the second experience revealed my eternal connection to Christ, and his revelation makes the present reality which we take to be the only one seem much less real than the real reality where we are with Christ. At least, that was my experience and it could have been wrong/delusional too.
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It’s sad that OP came to GLP in his time of need. This says a lot. OP IS A LOSER. Just end it.... No heaven No Hell. You will do us all good. You have nothing to offer. You amounted to nothing. An embarrassment to your father. PLEASE FOR ALL US. Just do it. You won’t do it.... You are to weak.... Romans took the sword... You are a BETA CUCK.
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wtfyou are an evil heartless POS!! Go f_$k yourself. You are the hatefilled loser!!
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Wow, if you want to see hate, go look in the mirror.
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Just to say hope you are doing well OP
There might be truth to that grace moving thing, because this happened in 2 waves. First time was last year when my eyes were opened to spiritual truth in a vague way, then earlier this year Christ and my/our eternal connection to him was revealed in a way that makes any other truth, including this so-called reality seem like a complete joke.

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Often grace will turn up, come before or during a time that it is like a hint, nudge, saying look I am here in the darkest most difficult moments of our life.
There is a classic painting I am not sure if you have seen it it is here, please see it [link to www.stpauls.co.uk (secure)]

It shows Jesus with his Lantern, and the door has no handle on the outside. Though he knocks and waits for us to open the door to him, he asks permission, it can only be opened from the inside, that is by you my friend.

I am pretty sure and your experience seems to collaborate this, the movements of grace are Jesus knocking louder at this time and just before, knowing what was and is happening for you.

It is up to you though to open it and let his Light shine inside you to help take away (again sometimes miracles happen, though even with such grace usually it is not a magic wand, a candle in a dark valley, gives hope, we can see and not stumble and fall, a dim star that a seafarer knows will lead from the stormy sea if he keeps fixed on it, and uses it to keep heading his ship in that direction, and uses it to guide to the port/harbour of dry land again and a new start and journey).

More on that painting here:

The door represents the human soul, which cannot be opened from the outside. There is no handle on the door, and the rusty nails and hinges overgrown with ivy denote that the door has never been opened and that the figure of Christ is asking permission to enter. The morning star appears near Christ, the dawn of a new day, and the autumn weeds and fallen fruit represent the autumn of life. The writing beneath the picture, is taken from Revelation 3 ‘Behold I stand at the door and knock. If any man hear my voice and open the door I will come in to him and will sup with him and he with me.’

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I deserve to be murdered because my boyfriend died because of me. It was an accident and those happen, but the entire situation that allowed for this setup was caused by me. So, there is no help possible for me. And maybe a higher power can forgive me during judgement, idk. I don't want to be.
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You as you say and your boyfriend had an Accident happen.

Accidents are not pre planned I will do this. If you can be honest, and think if somehow you had been told before whatever things you did to contribute to the set-up situation, and were one hundred percent sure and knew that by doing, or being involved in that, your boyfriend would have been involved in the accident and you where given the following 2 choices:

Will you do knowing what will happen, your boyfriend will die in this accident if you do x/y/z? Choose to do now x/y/z?

Or Do you choose now knowing this will happen to make sure x/y/z never happen as best as you can?

Which do you answer?

If its the second one, be aware of something about “culpability”. It is a known teaching and Jesus states it much in the bible, that knowledge of what the effects of something we do play a huge part in how it is judged or deemed.

Like in Law Courts on the earth. So for example a person should not have been hungover with 2 hours sleep and still slightly tipsy after their birthday night out. They pick up a gun at the firing range, they have not made it safe as they should. They have ear muffs on, someone taps them on the shoulder they get spooked startled and turn around and doing so the gun falls and sets itself of. The person is shot dead.

Is very very very very different from:

A man picks up a Gun drives past a “gang” that is different from his gang and have offended his gang in some stupid argument about territory. He shoots 3 people he has never known because they are in the garden of the Gang leader of his rival. NONE of them die though are badly injured.

VERILY I say to you with much confidence, the second person is more culpable of murder than the first, as it was his intention, what it was done for etc., and a millimetre to the side or up and down those people could have been killed.

TRULY which category are you really really in?

What you are experiencing is the Guilt part of what happened, someone or something needs to be blamed please my friend see it for what it is, as you stated an Accident. Now that word actually is defined as it's true meaning and therefore the meaning of what really happened, rather than the guilt you place on it, to yourself

“something bad that happens that is not expected or intended and that often damages something or injures someone
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Not expected or intended is the truth yes?

So in both the Old Testament and also in Jesus words, and indeed all the teachers of nearly all religions this is very very clearly defined. So for example:

“Determination of culpability on the basis of intention is evident from Num. 35:16-34 and Deut. 19:4-6. A man who "without knowledge" (bivli da'at) or unintentionally slays his neighbor “does not deserve to die” (cf. Josh. 20:3). If the one who commits unintentional man slaughter is killed by the "avenger of blood," God regards it as the shedding of innocent blood (Deut. 19:10). “ so God would consider anyone who as you stated even if by your own hand the following:
I deserve to be murdered because my boyfriend died because of me. It was an accident and those happen,
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Much more sinful an actual Sin than anything that has happened!

You suffering, being murdered, taking your own life helps no-one, makes an accident to then become murder REAL as you, due to your situation and no judgement here, perceive it to have been when it is not. YOU cannot and had no culpability in this accident did not desire it want it?
Than yet by wanting to be dead and murdered, or take your own life you then do the very thing that you blame yourself for that is just a error of perception.

Now I have placed you in a double bind, as for example someone committing a sin without it being a Sin is certainly not at so much blame and fault as Jesus said here, backing up what was taught in the Old Testament:

”"That servant who knew the will of his lord ... and did not act according to his will, will be beaten with many stripes. But he that knew not, and did things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes."

[link to exegeticalthoughts.Nope]

You know you are wishing intending harm and murder on you, what about the person who would do it? Do you want them to then have that Sin and be damned or carry real guilt of an act, that you carry of one you are not responsible for?

Do by you continuing to desire wish this or consider doing it yourself, knowing it is a Sin, suicide is Murder of the self, then think that will not get its full Mortal Punishment?

So knowing the truth and teachings of this, if you can see the reality of the situation, remind yourself of this and your job is to get past this, to find strategies, ways, and solutions to move through, and out of this and break this habit of those thoughts, to see them as they are thoughts and feelings that hurt are powerful yes but in reality reminding yourself are actually not true, cause much more offence harm and bad and evil than anything that drives the misplaced guilt and such like that creates them.

Ultimately they are lies, you did not do this on purpose.

If there is anything about negative unwanted aspects of your lifestyle, behaviour, parts of yourself that led to the “set up” that caused this, this is where to focus and change, Rather than harm yourself, or wish others to harm you, or harm on yourself, find a way so that those habits, behaviours, and what you may have done that could have contributed to the “set up” that are development areas, or parts of yourself you feel think are not good or wholesome, are removed, changed, stopped and have no more part of your and others lives in the future.

Anger which is part of the process you may be in in your journey of the stages of grief, often if not externally displayed or focused, can if then internally focused create Guilt, Shame, Self Sabotage, etc.
See it for what it really is.

When I in the past have had such experiences and was aware they where starting, something not just I however many many others have found is extremely beneficial, is to do one of the following. Get to the gym, really really push yourself, at least 3 times a week, or find a local martial arts (not all gentle calming yoga tai chi stuff) club, it will help shift these emotions and focus in a controlled and safe way externally.
WALK if not wanted in the day due to not taking care of self and wanting to be alone, at night in a safe area, at least 1-2 hours a day, or in the day in areas of nature, walk quickly as an exercise.

Doctors never helped out with meds when I really needed them. And voluntarily going into their system in which the chance exists that they can turn against you (e.g. involuntarily committing you or suicide watch) is playing with fire. And you might know the feeling like you're almost begging for meds but they still don't give you any. And this is from someone with no history of psych meds use and no reason for them to suspect abuse.
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Yes there is that concern and you are right, I have worked Psych wards secure, been part of section process on people, I no longer work in that part of the system, partially because of what you mention.

However my friend, if you were to be very careful in your wording, esp as you say there is no prior contact with this part of medicine in your file, go to your doctor, explain that you have lost a loved one in a tragic way, it was your partner, you know you are depressed, not taking care of yourself, feel flat and just want something to help you for 4-8 weeks take the edge of, with no need to mention any suicide thoughts.
I am pretty certain you would get a prescrip with no worries. And for a Med that is appropriate.

If they ask you of any suicide thoughts you can answer however you want to, please be aware I doubt if there is a person alive, who has not at some part of their life thought about it. I do not condone lying however if it protects you and keeps you safe and helps you get through this, well its not as if it is a bad thing, the outcome is positive.

Dark web has helped my life more than any doctor regarding this.
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I say the above paragraph due to this, Meds are complex and if you are on any meds and you get take the wrong combination they can be very dangerous. Also it may cause you problems with the police which is the last thing you need right now. In addition you do not know the true source of them if real, fake or made in a Lab where they make illegal Meds, they are probably stolen if real. There is a whole can of worms with that, and also a great danger of you getting addicted.

Please go to the Doctor, be careful in your wording around one thing, get your safe legal prescription, and promise yourself it is for x amount of weeks and you can then come of them in an slow controlled way. If you have started any that are in the class of bi carb s, get to your Doctor ASAP to change to different ones and don't take both together, take them to a Bin and throw them out, start the others.


Guardian angels must definitely be a thing, some psychic people have encountered them and some meet them during a NDE. Pretty cool stuff.
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Oh they are all religions all cultures talk, teach of them. Unfortunately the good ones have in the unseen world their opposites as well. And they will always like predators take advantage of a injured or wounded part of the herd as such.

I strongly advise you ask every day and much for help from your Guardian Angel, here is a classic prayer that all children should say as they learn to read and continue into adulthood every morning

Angel of God
My Guardian Dear
By whom God's Love entrusts you here,
Ever this day and night
be at my side
to Love and Guard
to Rule and to Guide
(in a similar situation I added the below and it helped)
Please Heal me,
Help Me,
Bless and Pray for Me,
Bring me the help I need,
Of this problem (state them)
I ask divine intervention to be freed.
Amen.

Call him he knows his name! No askee no getee!
For example bad thoughts feelings

“ My Guardian Angel please help me with this (thoughts feelings) I am having difficulty stopping it and I cant do it on my own, take it from me, help me please with this right now”

Here is some interesting info for you on Guardian Angels, from the last true great Saint the Monk St Pio, so many many miracles happened due to him, he had the visible wounds of christ, those who where born with no pupils actually saw, REALLY documented medical proof etc...



My friend nothing I am saying to you is medical, psychological, psychiatric, spiritual advice, etc., just a human being, speaking to you who has some experiences in some of the things you talked about. Just as I would a friend in the pub. I am not I promise you carefully wording, anything (except for doing a spell check after typing it), rather than just listening to what you said, understanding it from your point of view and not being part of it, and stuck overwhelmed in it myself, though having experience in how those who are, including my self in the past, as a human to human, showing you the terrain. And maybe some maps, a com pass to know where you are, why, which can be safe routes out of it, and wishing so much that you are freed from being stuck and wandering back to where you started, or taking a route that makes ttings worse than the initial situation.

You are someone who has experienced a loss and tragedy that is bad enough but has then the self blame which hopefully you can see is not valid in holding onto. It is an emotion a feeling and though very real and valid and powerful please do not drown in it, look for the shore, swim, let it go knowing that the truth is different to when it started, or you decided the self guilt, blame was true and valid, you can I am sure see from what Ive added in this post, it is not as real and true as it seems.

However what happens sometimes especially in crisis or shock is that a decision that is wrong or not really true can have a huge amount of emotion attached to that decision, like you have guilt that it was truly your full culpable fault and the guilt and shame as you work through it, replace it with the truth Ive shown, then it will get lighter and lighter. And find ways like we would a splin-ter to get it out of us, otherwise it can become embedded and infected as an analogy.

Anyone else would in their own way, have reactions to similar to what you have experienced on a scale and based on their support network and life. You were brave enough to be honest and say Hey I am struggling with this, so that shows you can ask for help, please use the Samaritans if you want to talk feel alone, feel overwhelmed for the reasons said.

If it was a friend and their life situation circumstances supported it including finances and accommodation I would take them a kitten and leave it with them, though they would probably not be happy at first at me, that wouldn't matter, get a pet really will help much if you choose to. It seems grace Jesus he is knocking at the door you can open it to help with his healing and light drive away the darkness within, and be a guiding star as such.

You can and will if you try and see this situation and thoughts feelings for what they truly are, and that yes its difficult, and yes it is a journey, however knowing others have experienced it and gone on and had happy, fulfilled and successful lives, and there are stages to work through that is perfectly normal and experienced by most who have been through this.

You are not to blame, if part of you needs to be fixed and changed so that whatever set it up and might be unwholesome, focus on that. The event was NOT your intention, fault, done on purpose and as you know did not want it to happen why blame yourself?

If you were happy it did then it would be a different situation.

Samaritans are fantastic and have no agenda than just helping others who have been where they where more often than not.

Prescribed Meds are safe, will if done carefully mean that you have less in regards on your Med file to do with any Pysch issues than 75% of of your doctors other patiants, and mean it is a bridge to help you cross this, not a lifelong problem to mask feeling working through it, and done in a safe and legal way.

May God Bless You.
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Thanks a lot for the caring you've shown. But there's really no processing this since I know why it happened. It wasn't deliberate but he would have been much better off if he hadn't met me.

I'll hope for rapture and prepare for eternal damnation.
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bible study is something I'm interested in as a non religious person who found Christ last year (before the death of my SO)
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OP there is a reason for this timing, think about it, really do.

Jesus/God Knew this would be difficult for you, and I am sure help is being given, but this one comment of yours speaks, volumes, shows grace moving in your life.

NEVER be a Murderer to others or yourself, its the same, infact some say to do it to oneself is WORSE as a Sin.

I wont try and give cliches, or the usual, yes it f****ing hurts, Yes it is all pervasive. NO there is NOT a magic wand that will amke it all happy happy clappy straight away.

Please though go to grief councselling, locally and in crisis NOW:

Phone or use : [link to www.samaritans.org (secure)]

THEY ARE NOT PAID IN ANY WAY ITS ALL VOLUNTARY MOST HAVE IN FACT BEEN EXACTLY WHERE YOU ARE THEMSELVES IN THE PAST!

Anom non judgemental, just call them my friend.

Look into the Classic Stages of Grief the Kubler Ross ones, Know where you are, which one in, then you can understand the situation more, and try and see it as just something that happens to all after such a loss, however like others it is a journey and there is a change at each step of the way, it DOES and it WILL FOR YOU get better, as BILLIONS of people throughout all of history have found.

Dont let anyone tell you how long or how you should feel or be, it is your journey, though know that yes eventually you will be out of it, taking care of yourself and have life and joy and light increasing in your life.

If you think you really might self harm, just go to the doctor and get some meds (though I dont particularly advocate or like them, they CAN and DO help people if used in a short time period to take the edge of and get you through the next month or two).

I strongly suggest and think about you get ASAP a Kitten or a Puppy or a pet and very very quickly, one youve always wanted like this week, just do it.

PS in the Bible everywhere is mentions of Angels good and Bad, the bad ones will want to kick you when down, Call out every day to your Gaurdian Angel, ask for Healing, Protection, Strength, Guidance EVERY DAY.

There is a reason the bible and Jesus came into your life then.

May God Bless You.
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There might be truth to that grace moving thing, because this happened in 2 waves. First time was last year when my eyes were opened to spiritual truth in a vague way, then earlier this year Christ and my/our eternal connection to him was revealed in a way that makes any other truth, including this so-called reality seem like a complete joke.

I deserve to be murdered because my boyfriend died because of me. It was an accident and those happen, but the entire situation that allowed for this setup was caused by me. So, there is no help possible for me. And maybe a higher power can forgive me during judgement, idk. I don't want to be.

Doctors never helped out with meds when I really needed them. And voluntarily going into their system in which the chance exists that they can turn against you (e.g. involuntarily committing you or suicide watch) is playing with fire. And you might know the feeling like you're almost begging for meds but they still don't give you any. And this is from someone with no history of psych meds use and no reason for them to suspect abuse. Dark web has helped my life more than any doctor regarding this.

Guardian angels must definitely be a thing, some psychic people have encountered them and some meet them during a NDE. Pretty cool stuff.
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OP it sounds like your sense of despair is tied to a couple of things

1) The world is corrupt, full of lies and led by demented psychopaths. The majority seem ignorant to these truths and for you it makes you feel angry, frustrated, helpless to bring real change, so what is the point of going on?

2) You have had a hard life, and been on the edge of ending it many times, and only your SO kept you pushing on. You never developed, or believe you never developed an inner desire/strength/foundation to keep going.

3) You think you, although an accident, are responsible for your SO death. lot of guilt and despair.

I think you need to tackle these one by one.

For the first one everything you say about the rulers on earth and the masses is true. However, being shown the truth, while at times feels overwhelming and bleak, is actually a GIFT. An incredible beautiful gift that enables you more and more to abide in the truth, feel its power to anchor you, and gift you discernment. So, no matter how much fear and chaos the rulers unleash, within your being you stay calm and anchored to truth.

Maybe every day try saying Thank You for this gift and keep saying Thank you and the more you do the more your energy will transform as the gift of truth/discernment is fueled by the gift of gratitude/joy. B y doing this you will grow to have compassion for the many who are living in a fog of lies and maybe, if you are lucky/blessed, something you say or do will help even just one of them remove some of the lies blinding them.

2) I think practicing gratitude here helps. It is too easy and a trap to focus on all the negatives. Doing so not only stunts our growth it clouds our ability to learn and grow from what life sends us. So while you can not stop that kind of thinking over night you can begin a new way of thinking. It took me a long time of just saying thank you for the — sun, rain, day,, flowers, moon,a roof over my head, etc — it changes your chemistry and shows you that you and only you have the POWER to choose what you think and focus on.

3). I don’t know the circumstances of your SO death, and losing a love one is for everyone very painful. Time helps, but also focusing on all the joy you had together, on who he was etc instead of just the loss helps the pain become more fluid. Yes, you will still feel it but it will be mixed with waves of joy and gratitude for having him in your life etc.

We are all gone in a blink of an eye, OP. The fact any of us are alive in the first place is a miracle, when you look at all the factors that had to align to make it happen! You are loved, you are special OP, we all are.
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Thank you.
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Thank you every single one of you for your suggestions. This is by far the nicest people have ever been to me, and it feels alien and awkward.
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I feel that awkward way too at times, been through so much trauma. Really grateful to see kindness still in people and extremely glad to see you back on the thread OP!
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Glad to see you decided to stick around. What a difference a day can make!
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Thanks a lot for the caring you've shown. But there's really no processing this since I know why it happened. It wasn't deliberate but he would have been much better off if he hadn't met me.

I'll hope for rapture and prepare for eternal damnation.
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OP you might find this thread interesting:

Thread: For those who pray, I have a request.

and my reply here and here:

Thread: For those who pray, I have a request. (Page 2)

and Here:

Thread: For those who pray, I have a request. (Page 3)

Do you know why the song Amazing Grace was written?

A man a true murderer, a slave master, who spent his life transporting slaves from Africa to be sold. Most on those boats never made it.

There is historical proof that the Bermuda triangle strangeness was all the dead, sick who wouldn't make a good price before port after the journey where including live ones, thrown over the ships in the Bermuda Triangle area.

The FOLLOWING is why it has stopped the missing planes boats aNd tragedies.

A Catholic/Christian mystic sensitive there picked up when god allowed communication with one who this had happened to.

The souls of so many had been with no burial and killed there etc.

So across especially Britain in the 50's 60's 70's many many people heard of this, and prayer groups where set up, Masses by priests where offered on the boats there some coming to do just that. Many Many masses where offered up for the souls of those this happened to.

It stopped completely in a period of 3-5 years when the reparation was done. That is why it no longer happens and part of History.

Amazing Grace was written by the man John Newton, who was this man himself. He was one such slave trader on the boats, the Boat was in a Terrible storm, this man had the real blood, slavery of countless men and women an children on his hands.

He was Known at the time by the very very rough, rape, plunder sailors as being particularly bad compared to them. For example it is known that from Logs

"Newton gained notoriety as being one of the most profane men the captain had ever met. In a culture where sailors habitually swore, Newton was admonished several times for not only using the worst words the captain had ever heard, but creating new ones to exceed the limits of verbal debauchery"

A captain of a slave ship, who had himself killed and sentenced to death his own sailors had lived in pirate infested times etc. found Newton a very dark character indeed!

There was a terrible Stormy crossing not just for a day, Newton had to strap himself to the Ships pump (hand pumped then) with someone else so they would not be swept overboard and try and keep pumping the water out.

They all knew they would drown, Newton said to the Captain "If this does not work then God Have mercy on us" and almost mocked God and Begged for hours doing this to save them.

Miraculously the storm where they where abated and the ship seemed to be guided never mind the wind to calmer waters.

Newton had a realisation that he and the others had been helped, there was no way they could have made it, and it was only He who called out to God whilst pumping, no one else had or prayed.

He knew also the real nature of his Character.

Hense the words and song:



Listen to the words think of his character.

Do you know when and how John Newton wrote that song and what God did to him and his life?

He wrote it as his life changed and he became not a murdering, slave trader who even the hardened sailors of those times thought evil and bad, but English poet and Anglican clergyman of great standing and fame!

You did What exactly?

My Friend what is happening is how you responded to the post of mine is the work of the enemy.

It is the true meaning of the Sin Against the Holy Spirit that cannot be Forgiven on earth or afterwards (that is after death)

That we think, we believe that Our Sin our Ideas, Our Lies about ourselves, Our Badness is worse than and greater than and more important than God's Decision, Love and Mercy

That we decide our fate, and that whatever it is we are guilty of, we cant be redeemed and have a second chance, we are MORE THAN GOD!

That God in some way thinks our stuff is more Important than the actual sacrifice the passion, the beating, the nails driven in his hands, the absolute and total agony of Jesus Christ's Passion, his only son, and part of God Himself who by his love for us came and did that.

That your stuff that one person would of in your judgement of been better of in life, is more big important and that the infinite Value, Merit, atonement, price paid by Jesus Christ for ALL Sins is nothing in comparison to that, that HIS CHILDS DEATH in payment is not of as great a value as any debt correctly or wrongly perceived by us humans.

That we then close ourselves to that grace, we think we know better than god, we believe and make the precious blood and passion of the Lamb worthless and of little value, that we are bigger than and in fact God ourselves by casting judgement on our souls.... this is the slippery slope of the Sin that cannot be forgiven, as we have choices chances in life can change come back to God yes we fall, but his mercy if we mean it and try, like the Slave trader shows is so great. If in life we close of to it, soon after death or just before death we can end up in that mindset false belief, and then for eternity it might be so.

I am sure like the Great Poet and Clergyman who wrote Amazing grace, like St Peter who offended greatly our lord to his face than yet did what he did, your stuff is like a speck of dust for him, and he has great plans for you, unless you decide your ideas that could be as shown incorrect are more important than the truth.

St Therese a great Saint explains it well I mention it in one of the posts above I linked.

The Enemy uses always the tactic you are experiencing, it is well written about.

May God Bless You

And give you Abundant Grace and Healing.

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It's like there's nothing standing between me and death.
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God is. God wants you to live, to do His Will and eventually get to Heaven.
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You're lonely it happens, I imagine you are not married or your SO would read husband or wife but you are in a gender fog of the thousands of new genders out there, well they have always existed now they have names, starting with SO sorry about your loss this is in the bible that this happens two people are SO's and one is taken and the other SO is left,

but where do they end up your SO might be in Heaven, but if you get tired of living without your SO and stop you will probably go to Hell and never see them again, so give your self to Jesus and let him sort it out. When I did i got thousands of new brothers and sisters and more reasons to Live and look forward.
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Relax, smoke some good weed, maybe crack open a beer. Go outside.
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Yeah, put some Alan Watts in the background and laugh at life.
It will pass soon enough ...
Enjoy what you can
The bankers did it
They laughed all the way home
We're doomed divided
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It's like there's nothing standing between me and death.
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God is. God wants you to live, to do His Will and eventually get to Heaven.
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God couldn’t care less. Stop filling heads with bs.
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I've hard a hard life but managed to survive, because there always seemed to be hope for a better tomorrow. Not much success still but hope was enough. Even despite the covid hopelessness and the inevitable fascist takeover and slavery.

But since my SO passed a few months ago, it's as if something broke in me. I couldn't take care of myself, just enough to survive but now it's as if that bottom has been pulled off and there's no support. It seems like a one way street straight to death.

The amount of self neglect that I've been exhibiting is at an all-time low or close, but scarier is that I have no will to live anymore. The thing that made me survive much tougher times.

It's like there's nothing standing between me and death.

At least I can vent on GLP without getting stupid advice like seeing a psychologist lol.
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They say when you hit rock bottom, there is no other way to go but up.

Go read the book of Job.
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You're lonely it happens, I imagine you are not married or your SO would read husband or wife but you are in a gender fog of the thousands of new genders out there, well they have always existed now they have names, starting with SO sorry about your loss this is in the bible that this happens two people are SO's and one is taken and the other SO is left,

but where do they end up your SO might be in Heaven, but if you get tired of living without your SO and stop you will probably go to Hell and never see them again, so give your self to Jesus and let him sort it out. When I did i got thousands of new brothers and sisters and more reasons to Live and look forward.
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Once you belong to Jesus you can check out whenever, but your works will not follow you to heaven, and if that is ok then it is up to you, but you won't go to hell for it if you belong to Jesus, and if you wait about 9 months everyone is going with you so hang on till the end give yourself to God, leave with the rest of us, and spend the rest of eternity in a brand new body.
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Re: In suicide danger zone and nowhere to turn
Hey you lovely people of GLP, just a quick update. I'm currently not suicidal anymore, though I still have some pretty dark days. I have started becoming addicted to alcohol. Never thought I'd be one of those people but here we are. Usually, traveling to other places might have been enough to break a habit, but now that most of us are locked-in, there's nowhere to turn really.

I hope all are doing okay, and that there's some divine intervention that saves us all.





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