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You Cannot Be Rich & A Good Person

 
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I myself have done done a bit of business, importing from china and selling here in the US and the premise is simple. I would buy the product in bulk at 4$ them at 40$ dollars, subtracting the distributors cut, cost of advertising, shipping, I would left with a profit of around 25 dollars. Now I did do some work myself such as the original packaging, set up the business infrastructure I did all the marketing and I took the initial risk in investing my own money as there is no guarantee it would sell. So during the initial investment I do feel that the amount of work I put in justified my profit.

However my next investment was is not the same thing, I already set the business up, I already knew how much to expect in conjunction to how much I would spend on advertising and I am never gauranteed to make the same amount or have the same success, it doesn't matter, it's simply a numbers game and law of averages, I don't require a guarantee, only requires you to not be completely reckless and you're as good as any guarantee. My profits will continue to return 5x the amount did I invest and I would continue to pay the people in china 4$. The work I would do from here on out is barely anything, So does that justify the amount of making, considering I already set up a business and the risk was no longer even existent? I really don't think so.

However this did not continue, and there's a reason why. I had been sent a letter from the distributor, That said they were no longer going to be selling my product because there was a claim by another company that I have been selling their product. A claim which was false, but the distributor is a multimillionaire probably a billion dollar company so they would not risk any entanglement and their own company. This happened really close to Christmas season which every seller would know This is where you make the most money. Now I could pursue legal action and go through this giant process with that company who just made a false claim, That would cost me money to ultimately rectify. Not only that but that meant I could potentially do this to my competition, and I have to continue business knowing that this would always be a thing, It is very much dog eat dog. Now I could have continued and honestly, Im sure I could have done very well but this wasn't the only reason that I stopped doing it.

Even when selling the products I noticed that my competition would blatantly lie about the products. Since we were all getting it from the same source pretty much I knew the true specifications of these products we were selling. I was selling stun guns and they would have a power rating based on voltage. Another reality is that a stun gun is realistically probably doing 100,000 volts However when testing these stun guns there is the possibility that you might get a sudden spike in voltage and it could reach potentially in the millions. This spike in voltage can be technically said It was measured, thus you could technically say that the measured voltage was 4 million. Now for me this was difficult because My competition was saying that their stun guns were 250milllion volts and the consumers would buy the stun gun that was advertised as the most powerful, and neither were they aware that these people were lying or the truth of how these measurements are made. The way I managed to succeed was simply by because I understand humans psychology. I sold my products as more expensive than my competition and I made sure to give the most appealing presentation. I bet it on a few things, I knew that when people see more expensive things they automatically assume that it's better quality, I also knew based on my experience from buying headphones, I never go through the warranty process when they give out and simply buying new ones and realistically any warranty or insurance on anything is only profitable because in the end the customer actually is losing money and it's technically never to the customer's benefit in the long run So I also offered a lifetime warranty on the product to further convince the buyer that mine was of greater quality.

I was right and what manage to get success without blatantly lying, however us to not be completely overshadowed by my competition I still put the 4 million volt measurement given to me officially by Chinese sellers. Compared to my competition you could say I did not lie based on all the information I was given, However I also knew that this 4 million rating was most likely a technicality. Basically all business preys on human psychology and weakness. I already had felt uncomfortable going down this road business road with the things I was required to do to succeed. Now with the whole lawsuit thing and seeing how scummy things would get between businesses as it's not only taking advantage of the public it is of the infighting and lawsuits between businesses That determines a success. Which is why I did not move forward with this, unfortunately possibly skipped out on the future which To be honest there have been many times I can't help but beat myself up over it because I know I could have done it and skimped out on a lot of potential money

However there are things like if you create something like a song, and the song later sells millions of copies. In this case you would have made your millions of dollars But you're not really using any backhanded tactics to make this money and it's legitimate. Yet how wealthy does one need to be really? When there are people dying of starvation, and people just living crappy lives because of wage difference what is the purpose of a Ferrari when we currently live in that world? The plan was that even if I did make enough money I would reinvest the excess money that I had into improving the state of world somehow. That's really I only needed enough money to be able to live nice and you know buy a house buy a car and maybe the occasional vacation. However why on earth would I need a multi-million dollar house or a quarter million dollar car, when was that money I could literally have prevented people from dying or enabled a better future for them. Really the only reason we don't see this as a reality in our daily lives, It's because the same people who are so good at selling you the products that you buy everyday, are the same people who sold us the idea. The reality is actually outrageous. It's cooler to be the guy with the ferrari, then it is to buy a standard 30k car and save actual lives.

Interestingly enough superheroes are cool, But apparently it's not because they save lives, power is cool. We don't live in a society of values lives, we value power over people. Even some of the most noble sounding things that we fight for are really more the love of power than the love of people, If I would have mentioned those topics now they would potentially make all the good that I'm trying to do with this topic because people are easily sold on things. Even So I'm trying to to a good service to humanity, I am limited by the potential good I am able to do, because of the ideas we've been sold on that hurts us as a people we currently buy. I have to sell the idea of humanity carefully In the same way its taken away.
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If you say so
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How bad will "moderately well off" bring me?
We aren't cut out to be socialists.We are the people who couldn't be constrained by Europe. We are the malcontents, idealists, speculators, dreamers, inventors, debtors and criminals who would not be chained. We don't play well with others, we are brash, outlandish and cunning. let us do what we do best; let us be Americans.
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For someone who claims to be Service to Others oriented, why do you have so much RED karma...??

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“Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery.
It gives you the illusion of freedom,
makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor,
while making an enemy of those
who are trying to free you or open your eyes.”
-Fiyah

“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”
-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

“You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.”

-SOL
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Joe Biden is rich
Genesis-Acts,Hebrews-Revelation to, you know who
Romans-Philemon to the Church
Mid-Acts Pauline Dispensational Right Division
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I work for a man (now dead) who defies that nonsense.
I one day will too.

He owned industrial chemical operations, and funneled lots into charity orgs and food banks...

i came up doing IT work for the non profits he supported.

i'm not rich, but i am comfortable and on the path to "rich."

it's a neat little trick (and it feels good) to work in the charity/non profit realm... i love it, and everyday my local influence and access to work/outreach grows...


whatever i need to be able to do, there are funds available, everything i need and more is available...

if that's not rich, i dont know what is.
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For someone who claims to be Service to Others oriented, why do you have so much RED karma...??

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Lol..
Reject your Sense of Injury and the Injury itself Dissappears- Marcus Aurelius
Just a poor country boy trying to stay alive, while the world around me dies.-Me
My candle burns at both ends;it will not last the night but ah,my foes, and oh, my friends it gives a lovely light!-Edna St.Vincent Millay
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Do you have change for a "nasty"?

I've got a "jackass" but I don't want to break it.
We aren't cut out to be socialists.We are the people who couldn't be constrained by Europe. We are the malcontents, idealists, speculators, dreamers, inventors, debtors and criminals who would not be chained. We don't play well with others, we are brash, outlandish and cunning. let us do what we do best; let us be Americans.
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Your ignorance is YOUR fault...

You sound like a liberal blaming everyone else like that...

Are you a liberal?
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I work for a man (now dead) who defies that nonsense.
I one day will too.

He owned industrial chemical operations, and funneled lots into charity orgs and food banks...

i came up doing IT work for the non profits he supported.

i'm not rich, but i am comfortable and on the path to "rich."

it's a neat little trick (and it feels good) to work in the charity/non profit realm... i love it, and everyday my local influence and access to work/outreach grows...


whatever i need to be able to do, there are funds available, everything i need and more is available...

if that's not rich, i dont know what is.
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It's all about the character and integrity of a person.
Reject your Sense of Injury and the Injury itself Dissappears- Marcus Aurelius
Just a poor country boy trying to stay alive, while the world around me dies.-Me
My candle burns at both ends;it will not last the night but ah,my foes, and oh, my friends it gives a lovely light!-Edna St.Vincent Millay
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For someone who claims to be Service to Others oriented, why do you have so much RED karma...??

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 Quoting: Zovalex


Exactly because of people like you, You honestly believe that red karma Is some kind of guarantee, knowing full well that you could give me red karma for no reason or simply because you didn't like me or that I didn't agree with the point you made.The red karma I earn is because the things I talk about, tend to be initially off-putting but rely on your understanding of a bigger picture.

One reason for example, is people assume that just because I say that the The reason that we charge people for having sex with a minor isnt credible, that that automatically means that I must be pro pedophilia. The truth of the matter is I don't like rape and I don't like people maliciously taking advantage of others. You're so quick to judge that they don't even bother with the rest of what I've written, or considered the ramifications of What it means to ignore it.

Perhaps the biggest irony, Is that I always try to do what's best for humanity, and many people do try to do what's best for humanity. But not many people will address the issues that I'm willing to address, because of things like red karma and image. You can go ahead and get your kicks in, and maybe that I'm never going to be able to help the reality of the situation because of people like you constantly trying to get their kicks in. It's entirely possible that I waste my time and my life doing this, all been for nothing, and the reality for me would be that I truly wasted my time and that would suck and I would look like an idiot. However, if that is the case, though no one will ever notice no, one will ever forget the consequence of it. Not because it's some personal payback or punishment for ignoring me in particular, but because you and your children's children will live with the same problems and threats they have always lived with and it won't bother you, you will never have known there could have been a better future, But the reality is that could have been one.

Last Edited by HolloH on 05/05/2021 01:34 AM
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You talk a LOT, yet you say nothing.

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“Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery.
It gives you the illusion of freedom,
makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor,
while making an enemy of those
who are trying to free you or open your eyes.”
-Fiyah

“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”
-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

“You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.”

-SOL
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You talk a LOT, yet you say nothing.

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You're not right just because you say things and all you've done is say something.

My guess is that you go by this talk is cheap premise, usually I can agree to that. However before any change requiring a group, talk is necessary. If you believe that I'm not talking about the necessary things Well then you tell me what I need to talk about.

You were just another reason things don't get fixed, You do nothing to fix it All you want is to sound clever and you're willing to forgo the well-being of many just so you can sound clever.

But if you read the post you would see that I did do something I chose not to further continue in a business which made me uncomfortable to continue, which I could have easily continued and made money off. That is what I've done. Yet I noticed many others do not, and everyone is aware who does it. I laid out the whole business thing so you could see how it's done In case you weren't aware of how it's done.

Last Edited by HolloH on 05/05/2021 02:46 AM
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6/22/2021 Fuck off you worthless leftist shitbag
6/20/2021 Commie Bastard
5/21/2021 Red for you!
5/21/2021 Biden
5/21/2021 Get the vaxx or pay the price chump.
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"You Cannot Be Rich & A Good Person"
Sometime go get yourself a copy of the Bible and read the book of Job.
Job was above reproach yet was one of the wealthiest people of his time.

I do think that if one is not already redeemed by the blood of Christ then wealth would make it very difficult to find the straight and narrow path.

A lot of poor people develop resentment and hatred of the wealthy. They develop faulty beliefs that money must be evil because they see some prominent wealthy individuals doing evil. Yet, God's Word doesn't say that money is evil, just the love of money.
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Though I, did not read your wall of non-structured words.

I, disagree with your post title.

Judge not others, for by the same measure that you judge others, you shall also be judged, and by your own standard of judgment you will not like the outcome.

Ouch

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well just wait one dang Minuit I am a good perso....never mind
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Though, I did not read your wall of non-structured words.

I, disagree with your post title.

Judge not others, for by the same measure that you judge others, you shall also be judged, and by your own standard of judgment you will not like the outcome.

Ouch
 Quoting: Reebl


Oh so you're willing to be completely ignorant on this matter and wish to talk as if you know as if all problems could be solved or expressed in title. At least you were kind enough to let me know that much,

This way I know that you're not actually an educated person or wise You just recite bullshit without knowing the meaning. So until you read it and have actual points to make, then you can continue being irrelevant, You have the right to it.

"You Cannot Be Rich & A Good Person"
Sometime go get yourself a copy of the Bible and read the book of Job.
Job was above reproach yet was one of the wealthiest people of his time.

I do think that if one is not already redeemed by the blood of Christ then wealth would make it very difficult to find the straight and narrow path.

A lot of poor people develop resentment and hatred of the wealthy. They develop faulty beliefs that money must be evil because they see some prominent wealthy individuals doing evil. Yet, God's Word doesn't say that money is evil, just the love of money.
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No, I can tell you didn't actually read what I wrote. You've probably never read the Bible in completion while I have. You've probably never studied its meanings while I have.

Of course all you want to believe is the easy way out of things, such are those who believe this whole redemption by blood, which would make all of the teachings and whole life of Jesus pointless if the only thing that mattered was his death. Speaking of the teachings of Jesus

Matthew 19:23 "Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Truly I tell you, it is hard for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24 Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.””

So you can go ahead, invalidate everything Jesus lived for because you want to believe an exaggerated lie by the church, which was told to you because The church itself is not infallible and it put having more followers above the truth. From here on out what you choose to abide by since you're no longer ignorant will be on you.

As for the story of Job well that is actually my favorite story, the very one who got me to read the Bible in the first place, also one of the oldest stories in the Bible probably the oldest. There was no need to include the book of Job in the Bible, Aside from the fact that it carries a deep meaning. But Sure job was said to be a good man who did nothing wrong and yet he got severely punished for no apparent reason. Why do you think That despite being "good", he was still severely ravished. Does God allow punishment so severe from time to time so long as he makes up for it later? Because that's rather frightening to think, If what you say is true no matter how good you are God will always eventually That's the devil come and ruin your life. Incidentally God didn't choose a good poor person to make an example out of.

Last Edited by HolloH on 05/05/2021 03:44 AM
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