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Where was God when Eve was deceived?

 
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No, I was not using drugs or alcohol. I have an alcoholic drink about once every 6 months now. If that. I stay away from drugs. I’m an 80s “Just Say No” Nancy Reagan kid. I also have not and will not take the vaccine (to the other poster who mentioned that.) This has nothing to do with that. This is being let down by a God whom I have served my entire life.
 Quoting: Sonflower17


How exactly has God let you down?
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1 Corinthians 10:13  No temptation has overtaken you that is not common to man. God is faithful, and he will not let you be tempted beyond your ability, but with the temptation he will also provide the way of escape, that you may be able to endure it.

He allowed me to be tempted beyond my ability and did not provide a way of escape. And I cannot endure this life anymore.

He did not keep His word to me. I feel like the seed that took root amongst the thorns and was choked out. Is it my fault the sower threw me amongst the thorns? Can a plant choose to grow in poor conditions? Is it not the responsibility of the sower to be sure the seeds are planted in good soil? Why am I to blame for the place where the sower planted me?

Matthew 13:7  Other seeds fell among thorns, and the thorns grew up and choked them.
Matthew 13: 22  As for what was sown among thorns, this is the one who hears the word, but the cares of the world and the deceitfulness of riches choke the word, and it proves unfruitful.

My faith has been choked out. This grieves me. And I have been unable to square it away with scripture anymore.
 Quoting: Sonflower17


MANKIND IS IMPERFECT

JESUS CHRIST IS ABSOLUTE AND PERFECT

YOUR FAITH HAS BEEN CHOKED OUT

BECAUSE YOU CHOKED IT OUT IN YOUR IMPERFECTION

RENEW YOUR MIND TO THE ABSOLUTE PERFECTION OF JESUS CHRIST

AND YOUR FAITH WILL BE RESTORED TO YOU

GOD IS LOVE

THAT IS

THE TRUTH

AND

THE TRUTH

IS

JESUS CHRIST

ABSOLUTE AND PERFECT

THE AUTHOR OF LIFE

EVERYDAY

FOREVER

AMEN

ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS ACCEPT IT

INSTEAD OF ACCEPTING YOUR FAITH BEING CHOKED OUT
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Well spoken.
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God used Eve to deceive the serpent, same thing He did when he infiltrated and destroyed Egypt and Babylon from within.
Eve was a fith column inside the serpents kindgom.
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You are delusional
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So was the pharaoh when he died swalloed up by the waters of the red sea.
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You are delusional
 Quoting: Superkicker


Genesis 3:14

And the Lord God said unto the serpent, “Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field. Upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life.

Trick or treat, dumb serpent took the bait.
Serpents are dumb anyway.

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You really need to talk to God."...what I’ve been taught is that God created human beings with free will
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Gen 2:7 God made Adam.
Gen 2:15 God placed Adam in the garden of Eden.
Gen 2:16-17 God told Adam not to eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
Gen 2:22 God made Eve.
Gen 3:1 The serpent comes to tempt Eve.
Gen 3:2-3 Eve says God said not to eat or even touch the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

My questions: was Eve told by God or by Adam about the tree being forbidden? Why did she add on “neither shall you touch it”? Was this some early game of telephone and she got a mixed message?

And where in the world was God when the serpent tempted Eve? At that time, wasn’t God walking around in the garden with Adam and Eve? Was He just standing by, watching the interaction? Why didn’t God protect Eve, whom God says was deceived? So Eve was tricked into sin but Adam knowingly sinned? Even so, why didn’t God protect her?

I need answers to this. No one in my real life wants to discuss this. Maybe some of y’all have some insight. (Background: I have been a life long Christian who has never questioned scripture before.)
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Where was God when you had an abortion?
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Right now it’s is more or less a mystery
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But a great question that will be answered in the future
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This thread is about freewill. God let's you CHOOSE what you're going to do even though he KNOWS all possible scenarios. Why do you want to be enslaved by someone always intervening for you? Do you like it when your parents tell you to do or not do something?
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God used Eve to deceive the serpent, same thing He did when he infiltrated and destroyed Egypt and Babylon from within.
Eve was a fith column inside the serpents kindgom.
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You are delusional
 Quoting: Superkicker



Mat 23:33
Ye serpents (G3789 ophis, (through the idea of sharpness of vision); a snake, figuratively (as a type of sly cunning) an artful malicious person, especially Satan)
ye generation (G1081 gennema, offspring, fruit, conceptio)
of vipers (G2191 echidna, an adder or other poisonous snake)
how can ye escape (G575 apo, reverse)
the damnation of hell?

Gen 1:26
And God (H430 elohim Plural of H433 eloah, angels of the supreme God)
said, Let us make man in our image (H6754 tselem, phantom, illusion, idol),
after our likeness (H1823 demuth, similitude, to assimilate):
and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

Exo 20:4
Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image (H6459 pesel, idol), or any likeness (H8544 temunah, embodiment, phantom, similitude, to assimilate, from H4327 miyn, species: mankind)
of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:

Psa 82:6
I have said, Ye are gods (H430 elohim Plural of H433 eloah, angels of the supreme God); and all of you are children of the most High.

John 15:22
If I had not come and spoken unto them, they would not have sin, but now they have no cloak (embodiment) for their sin.

You took the bait now you are done snakey snakey.



Partys over.



Genesis 3:15
And I will put enmity
between you and the woman,
and between your offspring and hers;
he will crush your head,
and you will strike his heel.”
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Backwards
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He was wherever He was... God does not always have to have his eyes on everything at all times , although he certainly can. It speaks to Gods character that He can also leave well alone...
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You are delusional
 Quoting: Superkicker


But but but sweet Eve was so gullible and innocent, dumb serpents always thinking with their balls.



"And you bought that lie?!"

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You are delusional
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Who is really naive snakey snakey?



"You knew damn well i was a snake before you took me in", dumb snakes.

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Who do you think sent the snake?!?!?
I did it. I did it on purpose. And I'll do it again.
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I wish Adam and Eve would have followed God's simple and undemanding instructions....

I'd be so happy if God put us back in the Garden Of Eden.
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God used Eve to deceive the serpent, same thing He did when he infiltrated and destroyed Egypt and Babylon from within.
Eve was a fith column inside the serpents kindgom.
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You are delusional
 Quoting: Superkicker


Isaiah 29:15
Woe unto them that seek deep to hide their counsel from the Lord and their works are in the dark, and they say, “Who seeth us?” and, “Who knoweth us?”

Thanks to Eve you are not so hidden anymore are you snakey snakey, it sure sucks to have an achilles heel of that size.



Isaiah 29:16
Surely your turning of things upside down shall be esteemed as the potter's clay: for shall the work say of him that made it, He made me not? or shall the thing framed say of him that framed it, He had no understanding?

Dumb snakes always think theyre one step ahead while theyre two steps behind.

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Why must God delegate authority?
I mean he's supposed to be God, the one and only all powerful?
Most crucial event in human history and he's on another call?

One other thing, how does this all fit in with Crom-Magnon and all that caveman stuff?

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No, I was not using drugs or alcohol. I have an alcoholic drink about once every 6 months now. If that. I stay away from drugs. I’m an 80s “Just Say No” Nancy Reagan kid. I also have not and will not take the vaccine (to the other poster who mentioned that.) This has nothing to do with that. This is being let down by a God whom I have served my entire life.
 Quoting: Sonflower17


How exactly has God let you down?
 Quoting: BoatyMcBoatface


1 Corinthians 10:13  No temptation has overtaken you that is not common to man. God is faithful, and he will not let you be tempted beyond your ability, but with the temptation he will also provide the way of escape, that you may be able to endure it.

He allowed me to be tempted beyond my ability and did not provide a way of escape. And I cannot endure this life anymore.

He did not keep His word to me. I feel like the seed that took root amongst the thorns and was choked out. Is it my fault the sower threw me amongst the thorns? Can a plant choose to grow in poor conditions? Is it not the responsibility of the sower to be sure the seeds are planted in good soil? Why am I to blame for the place where the sower planted me?

Matthew 13:7  Other seeds fell among thorns, and the thorns grew up and choked them.
Matthew 13: 22  As for what was sown among thorns, this is the one who hears the word, but the cares of the world and the deceitfulness of riches choke the word, and it proves unfruitful.

My faith has been choked out. This grieves me. And I have been unable to square it away with scripture anymore.
 Quoting: Sonflower17


MANKIND IS IMPERFECT

JESUS CHRIST IS ABSOLUTE AND PERFECT

YOUR FAITH HAS BEEN CHOKED OUT

BECAUSE YOU CHOKED IT OUT IN YOUR IMPERFECTION

RENEW YOUR MIND TO THE ABSOLUTE PERFECTION OF JESUS CHRIST

AND YOUR FAITH WILL BE RESTORED TO YOU

GOD IS LOVE

THAT IS

THE TRUTH

AND

THE TRUTH

IS

JESUS CHRIST

ABSOLUTE AND PERFECT

THE AUTHOR OF LIFE

EVERYDAY

FOREVER

AMEN

ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS ACCEPT IT

INSTEAD OF ACCEPTING YOUR FAITH BEING CHOKED OUT
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73879411


The parable of the birds and seed. The birds are like the cares of the world. They can take off with seed not planted deep in the soil. Those cares scare growth potentials away and the cares take off with the seed. Best not be friends with the world. See, it's our faulty perception of things that lead to misunderstandings of truth and then we get upset we were not percieving it wrong and it must be something else what I think. No, just be patient, never overbearing, etc endure and see. Let the seed be planeted deep. Was it or did you not give heart, soul, mind 100? This is rhetoric for only you to now ponder. Did you get what you give, honestly?
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And GOD then asked Eve, "Where have you been?" Ancient question regarding our cry for help from ALMIGHTY GOD. We all did not hear Eve cry in Scripture, "OH... please come back to me! Please do not leave me my God!"
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BINGO

NAILED IT
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The Lord God asked Adam "where are you"?
The Lord God asked Eve "what have YOU DONE"?

The name for serpent is nachash in the holy language. Sounds like knack cash. Most subtle, murderer, cursed to eat from the dust.
In the book of Joshua, Achon, disobeyed the Lord God, stole three things and hid them in the dust of the earth under his tent, his home.
1.silver
2.gold
3.a babylonish garment, the mantle of Shinar.
Bab is heart Elyon mount of the most high.
They gave their hearts to their idols, their hearts being children.
Achon was of that particular princely tribe. His name is an anagram of nachash, minus the shin sh sound. One sound short n he was stoned to death and burned, his crime of covering, caused deaths of tribe members in a war with Ai.
This scenario is still playing out, and almost at the finale.
Nachash the root is also meaning shaman, wizard...a priest of a beguiling religion that is jealous but hides its jealousy in seeming to offer a hidden truth that will reward, but it's clearly a ruse causing death.
The fruit of having sex the first time, is the knowledge that someone else has intimately known one, and if they are subtle, they will know the innocent person completely, and the innocent person will not know the truth of the beguiling, disseminating person.
Real Love given, shared with one unworthy, is naked and vulnerable. Love given to a powerful deceiver is dangerous, deadly.
Perhaps in the garden where adam, that means blood, blood made of earth is tending the garden of God where the tree of life is allowable to eat, the tree of peace is allowable to eat, the tree of righteous goodness is allowable to eat, but the tree, and only the tree of good AND EVIL is not allowed.
The tainting of anything pure with evil renders the pure impure...
And this is death, to blood from earth, that is spilled back into the earth, and that which we are made of holds the very thing that tricked us, killed us, brought death to our blood,now gets to eat our blood in the earth. Satan's curse seems to be all consuming for him to consume us.
And seems extra cruel to kick a gardener out of paradise to a thorny weedy patch to toil over the very ground for his food. So both get their food from the ground.
Giving sweat and tears to end up giving blood back to earth that our actions cursed, so the earth took a hit for us, and so we are chained to feed our blood into it, endlessly?
Until we are redeemed, slaves of dust to servants of Lord God.
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Where was Adam?
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The bible’s been edited a few milliontimes, dude.

Where has God been the last twenty years as the serpent’s sodomites descecrated the women of this world?
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'Away' long enough to allow Adam to teach all God taught him about the garden. Adam added the 'do not even touch' part for some reason. Improving on what God as 'caused to exist' seldom works out for the best for anybody involved.
In the 'long run' all the people alive in this earth will be alive in the new earth and be immortal and know about good and evil and still have dominion over all that was given to Adam in the garden.
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All of it was made up to try to explain our (humans) origins. You will never be able to make sense of it because it makes no sense.

I was Christian for 40 years and just found the real answers. It's hard to accept the truth of their subterfuge but it's worth it to no longer be control by man-made rules designed to keep us locked in slavery of the mind.

All the best to you.
Any people anywhere, being inclined and having the power, have the right to rise up, and shake off the existing government, and form a new one that suits them better. This is a most valuable - a most sacred right - a right, which we hope and believe, is to liberate the world. -- Abraham Lincoln


The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion. -- Albert Camus
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According to some churches, God only talks to men, who hold the priesthood.
idk, im a girl, God has been talking to me since birth.
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Re: Where was God when Eve was deceived?
Gen 2:7 God made Adam.
Gen 2:15 God placed Adam in the garden of Eden.
Gen 2:16-17 God told Adam not to eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
Gen 2:22 God made Eve.
Gen 3:1 The serpent comes to tempt Eve.
Gen 3:2-3 Eve says God said not to eat or even touch the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

My questions: was Eve told by God or by Adam about the tree being forbidden? Why did she add on “neither shall you touch it”? Was this some early game of telephone and she got a mixed message?

And where in the world was God when the serpent tempted Eve? At that time, wasn’t God walking around in the garden with Adam and Eve? Was He just standing by, watching the interaction? Why didn’t God protect Eve, whom God says was deceived? So Eve was tricked into sin but Adam knowingly sinned? Even so, why didn’t God protect her?

I need answers to this. No one in my real life wants to discuss this. Maybe some of y’all have some insight. (Background: I have been a life long Christian who has never questioned scripture before.)
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Go now and reread The Scriptures.

Maybe you'll find your answers.
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The Angels promised new heaven also happens to be the location of the Great White Throne event. The verse below is how the people on this earth get from here after they witness the event that has all fallen angels being sent to the fiery lake.

Isa:51:6:
Lift up your eyes to the heavens,
and look upon the earth beneath:
for the heavens shall vanish away like smoke,
and the earth shall wax old like a garment,
and they that dwell therein shall die in like manner:
but my salvation shall be for ever,
and my righteousness shall not be abolished.
Heb:12:22-25:
But ye are come unto mount Sion,
and unto the city of the living God,
the heavenly Jerusalem,
and to an innumerable company of angels,
To the general assembly and church of the firstborn,
which are written in heaven,
and to God the Judge of all,
and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant,
and to the blood of sprinkling,
that speaketh better things than that of Abel.
See that ye refuse not him that speaketh.
For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we escape,
if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven:

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The Angels promised new heaven also happens to be the location of the Great White Throne event. The verse below is how the people on this earth get from here after they witness the event that has all fallen angels being sent to the fiery lake.

Isa:51:6:
Lift up your eyes to the heavens,
and look upon the earth beneath:
for the heavens shall vanish away like smoke,
and the earth shall wax old like a garment,
and they that dwell therein shall die in like manner:
but my salvation shall be for ever,
and my righteousness shall not be abolished.
Heb:12:22-25:
But ye are come unto mount Sion,
and unto the city of the living God,
the heavenly Jerusalem,
and to an innumerable company of angels,
To the general assembly and church of the firstborn,
which are written in heaven,
and to God the Judge of all,
and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant,
and to the blood of sprinkling,
that speaketh better things than that of Abel.
See that ye refuse not him that speaketh.
For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we escape,
if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven:
 Quoting: Wayfaring Stranger


Yeah, they won't escape The Nobody who now speaks from Earth.
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I feel like you don't quite understand God. God has told us very plainly that He is a jealous God. We have seen in many books of the Bible where God poured his wrath down on his people. Would you say Moses felt betrayed. He did everything God said, and yet he made a mistake. That mistake kept him out of the promised land.

Over and over again, we see God stand back and watch cities burn. And what about Jesus, even at his death he asked God...why have your forsaken me?

God knew what was in store for Jesus, the son made flesh. And yet he let it all happen. I learned at a very young age, that it is Jesus, one with God, that speaks of mercy and love. Jesus to me is like a mother figure...one that bled with us...and for us. He feels our pain, and knows how if feels to be forsaken by God. He speaks of loving us..helping us...being there for us.

Now God the father, to me is just like that a father. My father punished me, he scolded me and he told me what to do and stood back and let me make my mistakes. He knew I had to choose how to live my life... or not really live at all.

You know when I didn;t do what my dad said, and something happened...I got in trouble, the car broke down, I failed a paper...ect. My dad was there for me. He helped me fix it and he loved me through it, even if he was super angry

I think it might be hard for you to see...but God loved Eve through this sin...God loved us all through our sin. And he saw how bad it had gotten...so he fixed it. He gave us the son to torture and kill. Why? So that our sins could be forgiven. God gave us part of himself after we failed to listen to him. He did this because He loves us...even when he is angry...even when he is hurt...even when we let him down.
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