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Pontius Pilate had that conversation with someone once.

I think history, life, teaches us that who he asked that to, and everything they said as written down in the good book, is the only Truth that is real.

May God Bless You.
 Quoting: MostHolyFace


But the people you speak of were men/humans. Driven by desires, emotions, environment.written with those hindered emotions. The truth I am on about is the constant.
 Quoting: Davy boi


The Truth I speak of is not one driven by desires, emotions environment.

But by the "Word made Flesh"

That which is unable to Lie.

All other so called truths are always "subjective" and limited to our perception and things you mention plus a factor more.

I will prove this to you right now and twist your mind a bit.

You see light from the sun and the screen of your PC?

If its dark in your room you put on a Light to see?

Or you Fall over?

The real Truth is your Brain has never had light in it or fall on it!

There is NO windows in your head/skull.

All light you see experience think is real is something generated when receptors in your eyes recieve an energy, they convery it (NOT TO LIGHT) nerves take it what is picked up to an area at the back of your skull in your brain the visual cortex. About 2 inchs a square. An Image is IMAGINED created made up in this square of your brain. That image is upside down to how you perceive it, due to the optic nerves crossing on the way in.

That image is then turned around, blown up like in video editing or a zoom function, projected forward to the front area of your cortex and giving the PURE LIE UNTRUTH ILLUSION of DEPTH an dDIMENSIONS 3D as Such and LIGHT.

Its all a Lie, its an imagination, nearly 70-80 of what you imagine is a tree in your periphal vision as you walk down a path is in fact a quick very unconscious pattern recognition search in your memory and then oh its one of them, they are usually like that, and most of what you think you experience is memories of when you actually placed attention on something in the past, now being added to that false projection, and mixed merged with what you see in the FALSE projection in front of you , some current IE centre of focus a dog running towards you, most of the rest not looked at focused at memories, cut and paste projected according to environment time of year etc.

There is about 14 billion bits of data every second coming into the human experience.

Our limited minds cant deal with it, it would overwhelem us and has no real value in what our task focus is.

The Subconscious deals with nearly all of it, and according to many things files, it ignores it, flags it, whatever I could go very deep on this I know it inside out but I wont.

We are then only consciously aware of about and it varies new findings all the time it appears to definately between 100,000 at most around 750,000,000 bits of information per second, as part of our conscious experience driving, making aware of, to include for example the bits that are rehashed and added from the past memories in things such as percption to do with sight as explained and all the things you mention, emotiones desires etc.

A wise Man is a Man who realises how much of a Fool he Is.

To think we as humans can know truth without us in relaity being like an Ant that Knows yes thats sugar cube, yes its good, yes I will carry it back, yes its good for the other ants, Yes its all truth, but our truths as humans and the conscious search for truth in most things, is like then asking that ant, about the way to build a nuclear reactor.

Good Luck with all that.

If everything you have every seen all light all "out there" all 3 d all things is nearly 70 80 memories and not now and real and generated liek script in a computer game, and infact is generated really on a 2 inch peice of cells in the back of your brain that is upside down to how you see this 3 d reality, and ALL SO CALLED LIGHT as no light has every been in oron your brain etc, is generated and false not AS IT TRULY IS! well it imho humbles you.

Let him who has ears Hear and Eyes see!

May God Bless You.
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Pontius Pilate had that conversation with someone once.

I think history, life, teaches us that who he asked that to, and everything they said as written down in the good book, is the only Truth that is real.

May God Bless You.
 Quoting: MostHolyFace


But the people you speak of were men/humans. Driven by desires, emotions, environment.written with those hindered emotions. The truth I am on about is the constant.
 Quoting: Davy boi


The Truth I speak of is not one driven by desires, emotions environment.

But by the "Word made Flesh"

That which is unable to Lie.

All other so called truths are always "subjective" and limited to our perception and things you mention plus a factor more.

I will prove this to you right now and twist your mind a bit.

You see light from the sun and the screen of your PC?

If its dark in your room you put on a Light to see?

Or you Fall over?

The real Truth is your Brain has never had light in it or fall on it!

There is NO windows in your head/skull.

All light you see experience think is real is something generated when receptors in your eyes recieve an energy, they convery it (NOT TO LIGHT) nerves take it what is picked up to an area at the back of your skull in your brain the visual cortex. About 2 inchs a square. An Image is IMAGINED created made up in this square of your brain. That image is upside down to how you perceive it, due to the optic nerves crossing on the way in.

That image is then turned around, blown up like in video editing or a zoom function, projected forward to the front area of your cortex and giving the PURE LIE UNTRUTH ILLUSION of DEPTH an dDIMENSIONS 3D as Such and LIGHT.

Its all a Lie, its an imagination, nearly 70-80 of what you imagine is a tree in your periphal vision as you walk down a path is in fact a quick very unconscious pattern recognition search in your memory and then oh its one of them, they are usually like that, and most of what you think you experience is memories of when you actually placed attention on something in the past, now being added to that false projection, and mixed merged with what you see in the FALSE projection in front of you , some current IE centre of focus a dog running towards you, most of the rest not looked at focused at memories, cut and paste projected according to environment time of year etc.

There is about 14 billion bits of data every second coming into the human experience.

Our limited minds cant deal with it, it would overwhelem us and has no real value in what our task focus is.

The Subconscious deals with nearly all of it, and according to many things files, it ignores it, flags it, whatever I could go very deep on this I know it inside out but I wont.

We are then only consciously aware of about and it varies new findings all the time it appears to definately between 100,000 at most around 750,000,000 bits of information per second, as part of our conscious experience driving, making aware of, to include for example the bits that are rehashed and added from the past memories in things such as percption to do with sight as explained and all the things you mention, emotiones desires etc.

A wise Man is a Man who realises how much of a Fool he Is.

To think we as humans can know truth without us in relaity being like an Ant that Knows yes thats sugar cube, yes its good, yes I will carry it back, yes its good for the other ants, Yes its all truth, but our truths as humans and the conscious search for truth in most things, is like then asking that ant, about the way to build a nuclear reactor.

Good Luck with all that.

If everything you have every seen all light all "out there" all 3 d all things is nearly 70 80 memories and not now and real and generated liek script in a computer game, and infact is generated really on a 2 inch peice of cells in the back of your brain that is upside down to how you see this 3 d reality, and ALL SO CALLED LIGHT as no light has every been in oron your brain etc, is generated and false not AS IT TRULY IS! well it imho humbles you.

Let him who has ears Hear and Eyes see!

May God Bless You.
 Quoting: MostHolyFace


Thank you!👍..that was beautifully worded and some of it made sense to me, I will have to think,dwell, research, understand the rest of it. The parts I don't understand.. you my friend are exactly the reason i have created this topic. Intelligent/honest views/opinions/perspectives/insight!

"TO SEE A WORLD IN A GRAIN OF SAND, AND HEAVEN IN A FLOWER! TO HOLD INFINITY IN THE PALM OF YOUR HAND, AND EXPERIENCE ETERNITY IN AN HOUR"

I remember reading this quote years ago, I might of worded it differently.
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Pontius Pilate had that conversation with someone once.

I think history, life, teaches us that who he asked that to, and everything they said as written down in the good book, is the only Truth that is real.

May God Bless You.
 Quoting: MostHolyFace


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Pontius Pilate had that conversation with someone once.

I think history, life, teaches us that who he asked that to, and everything they said as written down in the good book, is the only Truth that is real.

May God Bless You.
 Quoting: MostHolyFace


bsflag [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
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I understand your doubts, but surely there must be some aspects of that book is truth, or a perspective/view of truth? Every religion, has their own views, but all scriptures/mythology creation. Share similar belief's. Different perspectives but same outcome?
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What does this word mean to people? How do you people describe this word? Feelings/emotions/views?
 Quoting: Davy boi


DEFINE TRUTH

the quality or state of being true.

IN OTHER WORDS

IT CAN BE WHAT EVER YOU WANT IT TO BE

HENCE

THE MASS DECEPTION

HOWEVER

THE TRUTH

IS ABSOLUTE AND PERFECT

EVERYDAY

FOREVER

THE TRUTH

IS

JESUS CHRIST

WHEN YOU ARE IN

THE TRUTH

OR

IN

JESUS CHRIST

YOU CAN HAVE ACCESS TO ALL THE ANSWERS

AND LIVE FOREVER

IT IS WRITTEN

AMEN
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Pontius, welcome.
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..truth is perspective...people will whole heartedly believe in complete bullshit.
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Thank you!👍..that was beautifully worded and some of it made sense to me, I will have to think,dwell, research, understand the rest of it. The parts I don't understand.. you my friend are exactly the reason i have created this topic. Intelligent/honest views/opinions/perspectives/insight!

"TO SEE A WORLD IN A GRAIN OF SAND, AND HEAVEN IN A FLOWER! TO HOLD INFINITY IN THE PALM OF YOUR HAND, AND EXPERIENCE ETERNITY IN AN HOUR"

I remember reading this quote years ago, I might of worded it differently.
 Quoting: Davy boi


A Pleasure, not sure about wording being attractive no spell or grammah check however Thank You. And in this regard someone else wanted to find the truth about who I mention and you might find the below a must have book.

Pontius Pilate had that conversation with someone once.

I think history, life, teaches us that who he asked that to, and everything they said as written down in the good book, is the only Truth that is real.

May God Bless You.
 Quoting: MostHolyFace


bsflag [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
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Total False cancel culture of atheist history.

If you really want the truth on this subject, I suggest like another non believier who was a very very prominent investigative jouralist, and whose wife became Christian, after what seemed like divine intervention to save the life of their child, well he and her where growing apart because he would not have her be one, and stay with her. Looking for a final shot he loved her, he asked a fellow Journalist (when they where real not lke now, INVESTIGATIVE) what to do, the guy said well all you can do is prove her wrong - on EXACTLY the same point Christ didnt esist and if did was just a man. Then she will drop the as you say cult etc, and you might save your marriage.

The Fellow journalist then tells him to treat it exactly as the job he does, impartial, go to people from all sides, dig up the evidence or lack of it, have no interest in yes or no, just as he did in his award winning work where in fact he had sometimes come after much INVESTIGATIVE research to differant conclusions than originally had and published.

The guy took up the challenge, and in a big way because its a rabbit hole, and also he kept on finding information and proof he didnt want to find, so he researched more and more. Over a 2-3 yr period going part time in work he spent nearly all of his time and seperated from family during it on this. He used his contacts and position an such like to travel all around the world, Israel, to the top libraries, acedemics (most atheistic but asking specific questions to their expertise NOT opinions only, like real research) the top of the 1% experts in all the fields to do with this.

Conclusion is the following I strongly suggest if you are interested in actual truth (oh and like all good books not YT videos there is the references, the people, the experts, the documents at the back, CHECK THEM and if they are correct then where is the Lie?

I strongly suggest you get it and learn:

[link to www.goodreads.com (secure)]

The Result he after much hesitancy had to accept the facts and truth. He became a Christian, restored his Marriage with his wife and children, and left Jouranlism and became a Preacher and Pastor, a worker for Jesus!

May God Bless You.

PS there was a recent Film under the same name, though it being a "drama" and film though good, does not have the gravitas as the research the references and weight of the actual Book, and is of course romaticised and edited for the screen but many who see the film will then buy the book to.

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..truth is perspective...people will whole heartedly believe in complete bullshit.
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THEY CAN'T HELP IT

THEY ARE A BUNCH OF DUMMIES
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Truth is so far beyond human words/comprehension. When we attempt to describe Truth, we inherently only describe a portion of it. Think of any scene in your real life, all the detail, sounds, smells, colors, then try and describe this scene to someone. Your descriptions, although true, are not The Truth of the scene.

Now far as Truths related to Life and Consciousness, one can get a taste for it on the inward journey’s of the mind. The Truths one experiences in these states, are like seeing any particular scene (like I mentioned above) and trying to describe all of that detail, only we are talking about information that is very foreign compared to what the “mainstream” society has taught us, adding another layer of complexity when describing such Truths.

In the end, if anyone relys on anyone’s else’s descriptions of Truth, they will always be working with only a portion of such Truth. To really understand, we have to find Truth for ourselves. We have to make the attempt to find/experience those Truthful insights.

We talk to others about their experiences with Truth and establish “guide posts” of sorts. However, I strongly believe that we must tune ourselves to our own life/body and then trust our own individual insights above all else. Reality/Life/Consciousness is so much more than any of us can possibly believe, capable of so much more than our minds can conceive. Do not ever limit yourselves in what can be/is.

Good Luck everyone
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..truth is perspective...people will whole heartedly believe in complete bullshit.
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Tell me what isn't bullshit then?
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Truth is so far beyond human words/comprehension. When we attempt to describe Truth, we inherently only describe a portion of it. Think of any scene in your real life, all the detail, sounds, smells, colors, then try and describe this scene to someone. Your descriptions, although true, are not The Truth of the scene.

Now far as Truths related to Life and Consciousness, one can get a taste for it on the inward journey’s of the mind. The Truths one experiences in these states, are like seeing any particular scene (like I mentioned above) and trying to describe all of that detail, only we are talking about information that is very foreign compared to what the “mainstream” society has taught us, adding another layer of complexity when describing such Truths.

In the end, if anyone relys on anyone’s else’s descriptions of Truth, they will always be working with only a portion of such Truth. To really understand, we have to find Truth for ourselves. We have to make the attempt to find/experience those Truthful insights.

We talk to others about their experiences with Truth and establish “guide posts” of sorts. However, I strongly believe that we must tune ourselves to our own life/body and then trust our own individual insights above all else. Reality/Life/Consciousness is so much more than any of us can possibly believe, capable of so much more than our minds can conceive. Do not ever limit yourselves in what can be/is.

Good Luck everyone
 Quoting: Tanoros


TRUTH IS INACCURATE IMPERFECT AND INCONSISTENT

AND ALWAYS LEAD TO DEATH

HOWEVER

THE TRUTH

IS

ABSOLUTE AND PERFECT

EVERYDAY

FOREVER

IT IS WRITTEN

AMEN
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Truth is the way things actually are even in the absence of a consciousness to interpret them.

A Human seems to be a physical manifestation, a biological entity with physical senses with which to evaluate their existence. Their brains correlate the inputs fed to them from the senses and with the use of memory are able to construct what I choose to call a reality, not Truth. Of course some aspect of their evaluation may overlap Truth to some degree, but every human conjures a slightly different reality in their brains.

My signature "One Truth... many realities" forms my reality, could be wrong, but everyone's reality is nothing more than an opinion of what the actual Truth is.
Ominous regressions
One Truth... many realities
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Case and point. My reality strongly hints that the Universe we exist in is infinite in size and it is a tiny part of a hyper-dimensional construct... meaning we exist in an infinity of infinities. If you allow your brain to believe that then it could become obvious that our manifestation is not what it seems to be. We actually could be a simulation... Hard to really believe that, but we can't know the perfect Truth.
Ominous regressions
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Truth is the way things actually are even in the absence of a consciousness to interpret them.

A Human seems to be a physical manifestation, a biological entity with physical senses with which to evaluate their existence. Their brains correlate the inputs fed to them from the senses and with the use of memory are able to construct what I choose to call a reality, not Truth. Of course some aspect of their evaluation may overlap Truth to some degree, but every human conjures a slightly different reality in their brains.

My signature "One Truth... many realities" forms my reality, could be wrong, but everyone's reality is nothing more than an opinion of what the actual Truth is.
 Quoting: scimitar


TRUTH CAN BE ANYTHING YOU WANT IT TO BE

BASED ON A TWISTED DISTORTION OF REALITY

IT ALWAYS LEADS TO DEATH

ONLY

THE TRUTH

WHICH IS ABSOLUTE AND PERFECT

CAN EVER GIVE

LIFE EVERLASTING
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Case and point. My reality strongly hints that the Universe we exist in is infinite in size and it is a tiny part of a hyper-dimensional construct... meaning we exist in an infinity of infinities. If you allow your brain to believe that then it could become obvious that our manifestation is not what it seems to be. We actually could be a simulation... Hard to really believe that, but we can't know the perfect Truth.
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INFINITY IS WITH NO BEGINNING AND NO END

IMPERFECT INACCURATE AND INCONSISTENT

FOREVER

ONLY

THE TRUTH

IS ABSOLUTE AND PERFECT

WITH BEGINNING AND END
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Passive aggressive?
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Passive aggressive?
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lol

Good eye for some truth, however I think the real truth is that the poster is Aggressively Passive!

May God Bless YOU
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..truth is perspective...people will whole heartedly believe in complete bullshit.
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Tell me what isn't bullshit then?
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EVERYTHING IS B.S.

ACCORDING TO

TRUTH

ALL BECAUSE IT IS IMPEFECT\


ONLY

THE TRUTH IS ABSOLUTE AND PERFECT
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Passive aggressive?
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lol

Good eye for some truth, however I think the real truth is that the poster is Aggressively Passive!

May God Bless YOU
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Blessings to you a bajillion-fold :)
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 Quoting: Davy boi


Truth is so far beyond human words/comprehension. When we attempt to describe Truth, we inherently only describe a portion of it. Think of any scene in your real life, all the detail, sounds, smells, colors, then try and describe this scene to someone. Your descriptions, although true, are not The Truth of the scene.

Now far as Truths related to Life and Consciousness, one can get a taste for it on the inward journey’s of the mind. The Truths one experiences in these states, are like seeing any particular scene (like I mentioned above) and trying to describe all of that detail, only we are talking about information that is very foreign compared to what the “mainstream” society has taught us, adding another layer of complexity when describing such Truths.

In the end, if anyone relys on anyone’s else’s descriptions of Truth, they will always be working with only a portion of such Truth. To really understand, we have to find Truth for ourselves. We have to make the attempt to find/experience those Truthful insights.

We talk to others about their experiences with Truth and establish “guide posts” of sorts. However, I strongly believe that we must tune ourselves to our own life/body and then trust our own individual insights above all else. Reality/Life/Consciousness is so much more than any of us can possibly believe, capable of so much more than our minds can conceive. Do not ever limit yourselves in what can be/is.

Good Luck everyone
 Quoting: Tanoros


TRUTH IS INACCURATE IMPERFECT AND INCONSISTENT

AND ALWAYS LEAD TO DEATH

HOWEVER

THE TRUTH

IS

ABSOLUTE AND PERFECT

EVERYDAY

FOREVER

IT IS WRITTEN

AMEN
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But what is The Truth? In this material existence/duality that we find ourselves in, we are inherently always not experiencing The Truth. Duality by its nature, is half of The Truth, this not the Truth.

We are only able to experience The Truth on a level beyond our human mind, it’s a Knowing that can be experienced, but as soon as one attempts to quantify/classify that Knowing with words/thoughts, The Truth is then, “lost in translation” if you will. Essentially, only a portion of The Truth, but not The Truth.

OP, to begin to understand The Truth (Truth, whatever you want to call it), you have to do your own internal work. You have to come face to face with it on your own. It will take many times, because after each experience you will attempt to put to words/thoughts that which you experienced, thus degrading the overall message. The Truth, can only be experienced to remain whole.

Good Luck.
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Truth is the way things actually are even in the absence of a consciousness to interpret them.

A Human seems to be a physical manifestation, a biological entity with physical senses with which to evaluate their existence. Their brains correlate the inputs fed to them from the senses and with the use of memory are able to construct what I choose to call a reality, not Truth. Of course some aspect of their evaluation may overlap Truth to some degree, but every human conjures a slightly different reality in their brains.

My signature "One Truth... many realities" forms my reality, could be wrong, but everyone's reality is nothing more than an opinion of what the actual Truth is.
 Quoting: scimitar


TRUTH CAN BE ANYTHING YOU WANT IT TO BE

BASED ON A TWISTED DISTORTION OF REALITY

IT ALWAYS LEADS TO DEATH

ONLY

THE TRUTH

WHICH IS ABSOLUTE AND PERFECT

CAN EVER GIVE

LIFE EVERLASTING
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Words are imperfect, you get too hung up on Truth vs The Truth. The words we use matter not, it’s the meaning behind those words that matter, and only the one speaking those words knows the meaning behind them.

There isn’t a single source of material in this material existence that comes close to describing what you refer to as The Truth. It can only be experienced and any words used to describe that experience will not convey the full meaning of that experience.

Good luck
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 Quoting: Davy boi


Truth is so far beyond human words/comprehension. When we attempt to describe Truth, we inherently only describe a portion of it. Think of any scene in your real life, all the detail, sounds, smells, colors, then try and describe this scene to someone. Your descriptions, although true, are not The Truth of the scene.

Now far as Truths related to Life and Consciousness, one can get a taste for it on the inward journey’s of the mind. The Truths one experiences in these states, are like seeing any particular scene (like I mentioned above) and trying to describe all of that detail, only we are talking about information that is very foreign compared to what the “mainstream” society has taught us, adding another layer of complexity when describing such Truths.

In the end, if anyone relys on anyone’s else’s descriptions of Truth, they will always be working with only a portion of such Truth. To really understand, we have to find Truth for ourselves. We have to make the attempt to find/experience those Truthful insights.

We talk to others about their experiences with Truth and establish “guide posts” of sorts. However, I strongly believe that we must tune ourselves to our own life/body and then trust our own individual insights above all else. Reality/Life/Consciousness is so much more than any of us can possibly believe, capable of so much more than our minds can conceive. Do not ever limit yourselves in what can be/is.

Good Luck everyone
 Quoting: Tanoros


TRUTH IS INACCURATE IMPERFECT AND INCONSISTENT

AND ALWAYS LEAD TO DEATH

HOWEVER

THE TRUTH

IS

ABSOLUTE AND PERFECT

EVERYDAY

FOREVER

IT IS WRITTEN

AMEN
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74767405


But what is The Truth? In this material existence/duality that we find ourselves in, we are inherently always not experiencing The Truth. Duality by its nature, is half of The Truth, this not the Truth.

We are only able to experience The Truth on a level beyond our human mind, it’s a Knowing that can be experienced, but as soon as one attempts to quantify/classify that Knowing with words/thoughts, The Truth is then, “lost in translation” if you will. Essentially, only a portion of The Truth, but not The Truth.

OP, to begin to understand The Truth (Truth, whatever you want to call it), you have to do your own internal work. You have to come face to face with it on your own. It will take many times, because after each experience you will attempt to put to words/thoughts that which you experienced, thus degrading the overall message. The Truth, can only be experienced to remain whole.

Good Luck.
 Quoting: Tanoros


IT'S ONLY A DUALITY

BECAUSE OF THE ACCEPTANCE OF

A TRUTH WHICH IS IMPERFECTION WHICH LEADS TO DEATH

MIXED WITH

THE TRUTH

WHICH IS ABSOLUTE PERFECTION WHICH LEADS TO LIFE EVERLASTING
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Truth is the way things actually are even in the absence of a consciousness to interpret them.

A Human seems to be a physical manifestation, a biological entity with physical senses with which to evaluate their existence. Their brains correlate the inputs fed to them from the senses and with the use of memory are able to construct what I choose to call a reality, not Truth. Of course some aspect of their evaluation may overlap Truth to some degree, but every human conjures a slightly different reality in their brains.

My signature "One Truth... many realities" forms my reality, could be wrong, but everyone's reality is nothing more than an opinion of what the actual Truth is.
 Quoting: scimitar


TRUTH CAN BE ANYTHING YOU WANT IT TO BE

BASED ON A TWISTED DISTORTION OF REALITY

IT ALWAYS LEADS TO DEATH

ONLY

THE TRUTH

WHICH IS ABSOLUTE AND PERFECT

CAN EVER GIVE

LIFE EVERLASTING
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Words are imperfect, you get too hung up on Truth vs The Truth. The words we use matter not, it’s the meaning behind those words that matter, and only the one speaking those words knows the meaning behind them.

There isn’t a single source of material in this material existence that comes close to describing what you refer to as The Truth. It can only be experienced and any words used to describe that experience will not convey the full meaning of that experience.

Good luck
 Quoting: Tanoros


THAT IS CORRECT

WORDS ARE IMPERFECT

UNLESS YOU LOOK FOR THE ABSOLUTE PERFECTION IN WORDS

WHICH IS CALLED

THE WORD

THE WORD

IS

JESUS CHRIST

THE WORD

IS THE BIBLE

IT IS BY THIS GRACE THAT WE ARE HERE AT ALL
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What does this word mean to people? How do you people describe this word? Feelings/emotions/views?
 Quoting: Davy boi


DEFINE TRUTH

the quality or state of being true.

IN OTHER WORDS

IT CAN BE WHAT EVER YOU WANT IT TO BE

HENCE

THE MASS DECEPTION

HOWEVER

THE TRUTH

IS ABSOLUTE AND PERFECT

EVERYDAY

FOREVER

THE TRUTH

IS

JESUS CHRIST

WHEN YOU ARE IN

THE TRUTH

OR

IN

JESUS CHRIST

YOU CAN HAVE ACCESS TO ALL THE ANSWERS

AND LIVE FOREVER

IT IS WRITTEN

AMEN
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So in order to find truth? I have to accept Jesus Christ? That doesn't make sense.. truth existed before he even came into existence.
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 Quoting: Davy boi


Jesus.
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Truth is so far beyond human words/comprehension. When we attempt to describe Truth, we inherently only describe a portion of it. Think of any scene in your real life, all the detail, sounds, smells, colors, then try and describe this scene to someone. Your descriptions, although true, are not The Truth of the scene.

Now far as Truths related to Life and Consciousness, one can get a taste for it on the inward journey’s of the mind. The Truths one experiences in these states, are like seeing any particular scene (like I mentioned above) and trying to describe all of that detail, only we are talking about information that is very foreign compared to what the “mainstream” society has taught us, adding another layer of complexity when describing such Truths.

In the end, if anyone relys on anyone’s else’s descriptions of Truth, they will always be working with only a portion of such Truth. To really understand, we have to find Truth for ourselves. We have to make the attempt to find/experience those Truthful insights.

We talk to others about their experiences with Truth and establish “guide posts” of sorts. However, I strongly believe that we must tune ourselves to our own life/body and then trust our own individual insights above all else. Reality/Life/Consciousness is so much more than any of us can possibly believe, capable of so much more than our minds can conceive. Do not ever limit yourselves in what can be/is.

Good Luck everyone
 Quoting: Tanoros


In order to better understand truth, understanding other people's views/description of their perceptions. Is needed, each opinion, maybe different, but parts will have similarities, a common ground/view. Each person, is a part in the jigsaw puzzle. I agree that it is more than we can possibly believe/comprehend. But man has to start some where, might as well try, to understand what we can.
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Why do people, keeping telling me truth is found in Jesus? Christianity is just one of many religions. Who have same structures. Every religion has similar creation story's.. a divine being/creator one who made everything. So why is it hard for people to except, different sides, of the same coin.
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In order to better understand truth, surely every religion/perspective is just as important as the other. To be blinded, accept one over another is basically decieving yourself?
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 Quoting: Davy boi


DEFINE TRUTH

the quality or state of being true.

IN OTHER WORDS

IT CAN BE WHAT EVER YOU WANT IT TO BE

HENCE

THE MASS DECEPTION

HOWEVER

THE TRUTH

IS ABSOLUTE AND PERFECT

EVERYDAY

FOREVER

THE TRUTH

IS

JESUS CHRIST

WHEN YOU ARE IN

THE TRUTH

OR

IN

JESUS CHRIST

YOU CAN HAVE ACCESS TO ALL THE ANSWERS

AND LIVE FOREVER

IT IS WRITTEN

AMEN
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So in order to find truth? I have to accept Jesus Christ? That doesn't make sense.. truth existed before he even came into existence.
 Quoting: Davy boi


JESUS CHRIST IS THE TRUTH

ABSOLUTE AND PERFECT

A TRUTH IS ANYTHING YOU WANT IT TO BE

IMPERFECT INCONSISTENT AND INACCURATE

AND ALWAYS LEADS TO DEATH





GLP