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I’m a Mormon; Based on my research into “LDS Prophecies”, this is what’s coming to the USA

 
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haha, you just told the first joke most mormon 6 year olds learn.. thumbs

strip down the specific names, and you can tell the book of mormon is an allegory that talks about light being dark when light is left too long in control.

nephites and lamanites take turns being good.

im not trying to convert you man, I'm not active.

if you really want to stump a mormon, ask them about the book of lehi. it's a really funny story.
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ALL religious texts are allegorical. And the fact that 6-yr olds are so deeply indoctrinated into such belief systems speaks volumes in itself. With no apologies to Brigham, get 'em young and they're yours for life!
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you just sound angry. have a good day. hi
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Not angry at all... but plenty disgusted because as pointed out above I've read those religious texts and they are as phony as both Smith and Young themselves.
 Quoting: GSB/LTD


ive said clearly im not a member, i was raised in it and understand it.

all religions are by their nature, false.

have a good day.
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ALL religious texts are allegorical. And the fact that 6-yr olds are so deeply indoctrinated into such belief systems speaks volumes in itself. With no apologies to Brigham, get 'em young and they're yours for life!
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you just sound angry. have a good day. hi
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80362100


Not angry at all... but plenty disgusted because as pointed out above I've read those religious texts and they are as phony as both Smith and Young themselves.
 Quoting: GSB/LTD


ive said clearly im not an active member, i was raised in it and understand it.

all religions are by their nature, false.

have a good day.
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fx'd.
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You're conveniently omitting the fact that those food pantries are kept stocked through the required titheing of the faithful. And if you refuse, you'll be kicked to the nearest Salt Lake City curb. Let's keep it real, Precious.

So... am I to assume you also think Joseph Smith was a Saint or do you refute recorded history to the contrary and claim he was a martyr?
 Quoting: GSB/LTD


that is relatively true, yes, but the LDS church has a highly diversified portfolio, and at this point, I can almost guarantee their income is more profits than donations.
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With their BIGGEST singular cash cow the creation of the world's largest DNA bank... through hustling those trendy little home genealogical test kits. A gene bank where the LDS church refuses to disclose who makes withdrawals .. or for what purpose.

BTW: I notice you declined to comment about Smith.
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I think smith was a tool for the higher ambitions of others.

urim and thummim.. gold plates.. mass exodus west to land of promise..

did you know the slc temple that brigham young built was built with an elevator shaft?

apparently brigham young saw it in a dream.

huh..
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Huh? The first elevator was invented in 1743 while the temple cornerstone was laid over 100 years later, but have it your way: Young saw it in a dream so that's meaningful... just like those golden tablets. FYI: Young chose a swamp as the place to build the St. George's Temple; when his engineers tried to get him to move to a firmer foundation, he stubbornly refused and it took them six years to finish the structure as a result. At least Young was dedicated to his convictions!

Remember too that another radical religious sect moved en masse in an exodus to a promised land. That land was Guyana and the leader's name was Jim Jones. So, I must wonder if Brigham Young's utopia had been disturbed as Jones' was, would the result have been the same? It very well might have been!

But we DO agree that all religions are false! So, let's BOTH have a good day!

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anyway, the point is:

yall might disregard the op here, but the op isn't just speaking off the cuff.

this is a shared belief of mormons, and they are ready for it.

are you?
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In no particular order:

1. The Federal Government WILL attempt to outlaw individual gun rights. This will lead to massive nationwide protests.

2. Feds will fire on crowds during a protest in Chicago.

3. A bloc of many states in the center of the country, from the northern border to the southern border will threaten secession which will split the nation’s east and west coasts.

4. During the internal chaos dividing the nation, Russia / China / Both will launch a nuclear attack against the East / West coasts of the U.S. which will completely catch us off gates; this will happen during a major holiday when many Americans are at home (July 4th / Thanksgiving / Christmas)

5. Most Americans will assume we immediately lost the war.

6. Foreign troops will physically invade the United States and will be ruthless in their efforts, abandoning the Geneva Convention. Citizen militias will assist what is left of the military, with half of the American soldiers dead, AWOL, captured or having given up.

7. At the point it appears the US will completely and utterly fall, the army and militias will somehow triumph due to some unknown “help from Heaven”, and the invading force will leave, never to touch American soil again.

8. A massive worldwide earthquake will open the New Madrid fault system, opening the Great Lakes all the way to the Gulf of Mexico, creating a huge inland sea separating the eastern part of the country from the rest. New York and Boston will be virtually destroyed during this quake; much of the west coast will be destroyed as well.

9. The oceans will be in turmoil for some time as a result of the tectonic activity; all seafaring travel will cease with the exceptions being inland seas and areas such as parts of the Mediterranean and the Gulf of Mexico.
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You Mormons really are super brainwashed.

Please explain how the Madrid quake could affect NYC and Boston which are not anywhere near the fault. Makes no sense.
 Quoting: —Taoist—


I disagree with almost everything the OP said but Derek Zoolander has a school to help you. “Huge Worldwide Quake” means that every place on earth will shake. The opening of the New Madrid fault sounds like it’s merely the most visible result of this quake. Don’t agree with OP’s fanfic. But you should read it more carefully.
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Back to the prophesies...I have no interest in attacking or defending Mormonism I think it speaks for itself in either direction, and no matter what point or counterpoint a person offers the goal-post gets moved and no score is ever made.

It is, in effect, an argument for idiots who enjoy futility.

I will say that I was baptized Mormon as a convert and after a couple of years it didn't really take. It says more about me than them, in my case. I follow my instincts to salvation or condemnation and I don't write blank checks or etch my name in stone on anything.

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In no particular order:

1. The Federal Government WILL attempt to outlaw individual gun rights. This will lead to massive nationwide protests.
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Reasonable guess.
2. Feds will fire on crowds during a protest in Chicago.
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Another reasonable guess. Oddly specific.

3. A bloc of many states in the center of the country, from the northern border to the southern border will threaten secession which will split the nation’s east and west coasts.

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States can threat all they want, it would be actual succession that would split the country. Until then it's noise.
4. During the internal chaos dividing the nation, Russia / China / Both will launch a nuclear attack against the East / West coasts of the U.S. which will completely catch us off gates; this will happen during a major holiday when many Americans are at home (July 4th / Thanksgiving / Christmas)
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Now we're going off-the-rails.

This seems to combine a lot of juvenile understanding of how countries really work and how and why wars are started and who starts them and when.

There is no reason at all why China or Russia wants to "attack" the USA with literal troops and bombs. It's pointless to them to do so.

5. Most Americans will assume we immediately lost the war.
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Under scenario, sure, but we're building now on a derail.
6. Foreign troops will physically invade the United States and will be ruthless in their efforts, abandoning the Geneva Convention. Citizen militias will assist what is left of the military, with half of the American soldiers dead, AWOL, captured or having given up.
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WOLVERINES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol OK.

7. At the point it appears the US will completely and utterly fall, the army and militias will somehow triumph due to some unknown “help from Heaven”, and the invading force will leave, never to touch American soil again.
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Dramatic, eh?

8. A massive worldwide earthquake will open the New Madrid fault system, opening the Great Lakes all the way to the Gulf of Mexico, creating a huge inland sea separating the eastern part of the country from the rest. New York and Boston will be virtually destroyed during this quake; much of the west coast will be destroyed as well.

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Nothing like this ever happens, there's no precedent, it's disaster fantasy. Off-the-rails fear-porn.

9. The oceans will be in turmoil for some time as a result of the tectonic activity; all seafaring travel will cease with the exceptions being inland seas and areas such as parts of the Mediterranean and the Gulf of Mexico.
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Yeah, it's not hitting me as true, sorry.

I give the whole thing a 3/10.

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You lost me at " LDS"

My ex inlaws are LDS and their entire house is a shrine to the temple in Utah.

Thou shalt have NO other gods before me.
Thou shall not make unto any graven images.

You people believe in The Pearl of Great Price and Joseph but Joseph was nothing but a thief and a scammer.
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Makes perfect sense that God’s Prophet who opened the last dispensation would be one of the most lied about people in modern history.
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Comeon, tell us what we REALLY want to know: what are you going to name your personal planet once you get it?

BTW: not to put too fine a point on it, but Joseph Smith -the founder of your religion- was a con-artist who was shot in the back jumping out a second-story jail window as a lynch mob approached with a noose. He was arrested for sedition. So, there's that for you to conveniently ignore.

And as for Brigham Young? He wasted no time in seizing power over the faithful once Smith was cooling his heels in jail and his own flock began calling their chosen Messiah a "fallen prophet".

That'd be somewhat like Judas rising as the leader of Christianity once Jesus was crucified, wouldn't it? Food for thought, even in a well-stocked pantry!
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Incorrect.

Joseph was murdered by Masons.

Brigham Young never spoke badly of him.
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can you convert to Mormonism or do you have to be born into it?
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You can covert. Most members of the Restored Church of Christ are converts.
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you DO realize its All totally based on masonic principles.

Right?

Are all Mormons Masons or only the ones that matter?
Of course even if you were and knew you wouldn't admit it.
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Most Mormons think Masonry is a Satanic counterfeit and very few are Masons.

Now that I’ve seen that Australian X-Factor guy’s video about what goes on in Masonic lodges, I can see how it’s a mockery of true things of God.
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It was a day like most, except it was a day that would be a monumental one - another was a mushroom-fueled idea of extraterrestrial life, then there was this day.

I visited the local ward for the Church of Latter Day Saints. I had spent two summers talking about God and the discoveries by anthropologists around the globe. This was great! Although red-pulled about the Revelation-inspired take down by the Marxists - this red pill was more esoteric.

The question was asked again: Who are we and why are we here?

A man ran up to me in the parking lot, his wife clearly apparent just across the way.

He asked, “Well, what did you think?”

To which I replied, “Do you mean to tell me that if I follow the precepts of Mormonism and become a member, I could possibly have my own planet one day?”

He said, “Yes. It’s great, isn’t it?”

It was mind-bending. And I knew that I felt the pull of power that both Lucifer and Jesus had been offered. It was like a hit of a powerful drug, so intoxicating.

Cautiously and in disbelief, I said, “It’s too wonderful a gift, a job! Who could’ve ever imagined such?”

And he laughingly agreed and I went home, more despondent than I’d ever been, because it seemed that my personal walk didn’t include, nor support this brew.

So funny a pivotal point in my history for THIS DAY and no other...
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Comeon, tell us what we REALLY want to know: what are you going to name your personal planet once you get it?

BTW: not to put too fine a point on it, but Joseph Smith -the founder of your religion- was a con-artist who was shot in the back jumping out a second-story jail window as a lynch mob approached with a noose. He was arrested for sedition. So, there's that for you to conveniently ignore.

And as for Brigham Young? He wasted no time in seizing power over the faithful once Smith was cooling his heels in jail and his own flock began calling their chosen Messiah a "fallen prophet".

That'd be somewhat like Judas rising as the leader of Christianity once Jesus was crucified, wouldn't it? Food for thought, even in a well-stocked pantry!
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Incorrect.

Joseph was murdered by Masons.

Brigham Young never spoke badly of him.
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Joseph was a mason. There are tons of parallels between the two faiths. The rites and degrees of mormonism are loosely based on the masonic.
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in fact, for all you readers bashing mormons for their underwear or quest for godhood.

the average mormon has 2 years food storage, and nothing in their doctrine says owning guns are bad.

I think that's a pretty cool church personally.
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Well, I've got a year's supply of food and a sawed-off 12-ga. but I'm not peddling bikes down a road knocking on doors two-by-two hustling a religion based upon a dream about an angel named Moroni. BTW: divide that up and you have "Moron, I". 'Nuff said, there!
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So by not preaching the Gospel to every creature you’re admitting that you don’t follow Jesus’ last command to His Apostles before has ascension?
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Comeon, tell us what we REALLY want to know: what are you going to name your personal planet once you get it?

BTW: not to put too fine a point on it, but Joseph Smith -the founder of your religion- was a con-artist who was shot in the back jumping out a second-story jail window as a lynch mob approached with a noose. He was arrested for sedition. So, there's that for you to conveniently ignore.

And as for Brigham Young? He wasted no time in seizing power over the faithful once Smith was cooling his heels in jail and his own flock began calling their chosen Messiah a "fallen prophet".

That'd be somewhat like Judas rising as the leader of Christianity once Jesus was crucified, wouldn't it? Food for thought, even in a well-stocked pantry!
 Quoting: GSB/LTD


Incorrect.

Joseph was murdered by Masons.

Brigham Young never spoke badly of him.
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You can try to revise history all you want but to suggest that every member of Smith's vigilante lynch mob was a Mason is simply ridiculous, particularly since by the mid-1800's Masonry was on the decline in the United States and was certainly NOT prevalent in Nauvoo, Illinois in 1844. There were a handful but they were rich men who wouldn't dirty their hands with a noose and surely not over a petty con-man like Smith.

And, I'd be interested to know you can state that Young never spoke a harsh word about a man whose downfall embarrassed the entire sect - and whose "murder" prompted their exodus in the first place.

Nice try, but documented history is your friend.

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Comeon, tell us what we REALLY want to know: what are you going to name your personal planet once you get it?

BTW: not to put too fine a point on it, but Joseph Smith -the founder of your religion- was a con-artist who was shot in the back jumping out a second-story jail window as a lynch mob approached with a noose. He was arrested for sedition. So, there's that for you to conveniently ignore.

And as for Brigham Young? He wasted no time in seizing power over the faithful once Smith was cooling his heels in jail and his own flock began calling their chosen Messiah a "fallen prophet".

That'd be somewhat like Judas rising as the leader of Christianity once Jesus was crucified, wouldn't it? Food for thought, even in a well-stocked pantry!
 Quoting: GSB/LTD


Incorrect.

Joseph was murdered by Masons.

Brigham Young never spoke badly of him.
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Joseph was a mason. There are tons of parallels between the two faiths. The rites and degrees of mormonism are loosely based on the masonic.
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Joseph didn’t join the Masons until 1842, which is 22 years after he was called as a Prophet and 12 years after the Book of Mormon was published. Joseph joined out of desperation because he needed allies after the Governor of Missouri issued an order saying it was legal to kill all Mormons.

Soon after joining, Joseph saw what it was and left. Much of his revelations came as the result of contact with things he experienced and Masonic rituals became the catalyst for God revealing to him a way that God could endow His followers with additional protections and powers via the Endowment ordinance.

For taking elements of the Masonic ceremonies and converting them to a Christian purpose, the Masons murdered Joseph.
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you DO realize its All totally based on masonic principles.

Right?

Are all Mormons Masons or only the ones that matter?
Of course even if you were and knew you wouldn't admit it.
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so what man?

the masons may suck now, but they started as a way to be successful despite overwhelming religious rule.

like everything else good at the beginning, it got corrupted through time.

I was raised mormon, and as far as I'm concerned, if there was a true church, it would be them.

too bad it's all full of shit, but most mormons are good people that do right by their family and community.
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Mor(m)ons are just suckers identifying as lost fribesters.
While being robbed of their 10%,As if that was a good thing and not an extermination cult enabling stepnfetchit.
They laugh at you Romnoid suckers.
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you DO realize its All totally based on masonic principles.

Right?

Are all Mormons Masons or only the ones that matter?
Of course even if you were and knew you wouldn't admit it.
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so what man?

the masons may suck now, but they started as a way to be successful despite overwhelming religious rule.

like everything else good at the beginning, it got corrupted through time.

I was raised mormon, and as far as I'm concerned, if there was a true church, it would be them.

too bad it's all full of shit, but most mormons are good people that do right by their family and community.
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Mor(m)ons are just suckers identifying as lost fribesters.
While being robbed of their 10%,As if that was a good thing and not an extermination cult enabling stepnfetchit.
They laugh at you Romnoid suckers.Idol1
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in fact, for all you readers bashing mormons for their underwear or quest for godhood.

the average mormon has 2 years food storage, and nothing in their doctrine says owning guns are bad.

I think that's a pretty cool church personally.
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Well, I've got a year's supply of food and a sawed-off 12-ga. but I'm not peddling bikes down a road knocking on doors two-by-two hustling a religion based upon a dream about an angel named Moroni. BTW: divide that up and you have "Moron, I". 'Nuff said, there!
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So by not preaching the Gospel to every creature you’re admitting that you don’t follow Jesus’ last command to His Apostles before has ascension?
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My belief system is not at issue here; the OP's fantasies and those of his professed faith are. I've already stated that -by definition- ALL religions are cults and no amount of doctrine will ever rewrite those words in any dictionary.
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Comeon, tell us what we REALLY want to know: what are you going to name your personal planet once you get it?

BTW: not to put too fine a point on it, but Joseph Smith -the founder of your religion- was a con-artist who was shot in the back jumping out a second-story jail window as a lynch mob approached with a noose. He was arrested for sedition. So, there's that for you to conveniently ignore.

And as for Brigham Young? He wasted no time in seizing power over the faithful once Smith was cooling his heels in jail and his own flock began calling their chosen Messiah a "fallen prophet".

That'd be somewhat like Judas rising as the leader of Christianity once Jesus was crucified, wouldn't it? Food for thought, even in a well-stocked pantry!
 Quoting: GSB/LTD


Incorrect.

Joseph was murdered by Masons.

Brigham Young never spoke badly of him.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78989490


Joseph was a mason. There are tons of parallels between the two faiths. The rites and degrees of mormonism are loosely based on the masonic.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79491878


Joseph didn’t join the Masons until 1842, which is 22 years after he was called as a Prophet and 12 years after the Book of Mormon was published. Joseph joined out of desperation because he needed allies after the Governor of Missouri issued an order saying it was legal to kill all Mormons.

Soon after joining, Joseph saw what it was and left. Much of his revelations came as the result of contact with things he experienced and Masonic rituals became the catalyst for God revealing to him a way that God could endow His followers with additional protections and powers via the Endowment ordinance.

For taking elements of the Masonic ceremonies and converting them to a Christian purpose, the Masons murdered Joseph.
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That story sounds just a likely as the one about Joseph being called by God to form a new religion.
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Comeon, tell us what we REALLY want to know: what are you going to name your personal planet once you get it?

BTW: not to put too fine a point on it, but Joseph Smith -the founder of your religion- was a con-artist who was shot in the back jumping out a second-story jail window as a lynch mob approached with a noose. He was arrested for sedition. So, there's that for you to conveniently ignore.

And as for Brigham Young? He wasted no time in seizing power over the faithful once Smith was cooling his heels in jail and his own flock began calling their chosen Messiah a "fallen prophet".

That'd be somewhat like Judas rising as the leader of Christianity once Jesus was crucified, wouldn't it? Food for thought, even in a well-stocked pantry!
 Quoting: GSB/LTD


Incorrect.

Joseph was murdered by Masons.

Brigham Young never spoke badly of him.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78989490


Joseph was a mason. There are tons of parallels between the two faiths. The rites and degrees of mormonism are loosely based on the masonic.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79491878


Joseph didn’t join the Masons until 1842, which is 22 years after he was called as a Prophet and 12 years after the Book of Mormon was published. Joseph joined out of desperation because he needed allies after the Governor of Missouri issued an order saying it was legal to kill all Mormons.

Soon after joining, Joseph saw what it was and left. Much of his revelations came as the result of contact with things he experienced and Masonic rituals became the catalyst for God revealing to him a way that God could endow His followers with additional protections and powers via the Endowment ordinance.

For taking elements of the Masonic ceremonies and converting them to a Christian purpose, the Masons murdered Joseph.
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The REAL issue is simply this:
Jesus's life and teachings DON'T NEED A FAKE ANOTHER TESTAMENT FROM SOME 1800s wanna be swinger.

The entire list thing is just another money and power seeking scam like scientology designed to create a pathway to females and money.
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Incorrect.

Joseph was murdered by Masons.

Brigham Young never spoke badly of him.
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Joseph was a mason. There are tons of parallels between the two faiths. The rites and degrees of mormonism are loosely based on the masonic.
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Joseph didn’t join the Masons until 1842, which is 22 years after he was called as a Prophet and 12 years after the Book of Mormon was published. Joseph joined out of desperation because he needed allies after the Governor of Missouri issued an order saying it was legal to kill all Mormons.

Soon after joining, Joseph saw what it was and left. Much of his revelations came as the result of contact with things he experienced and Masonic rituals became the catalyst for God revealing to him a way that God could endow His followers with additional protections and powers via the Endowment ordinance.

For taking elements of the Masonic ceremonies and converting them to a Christian purpose, the Masons murdered Joseph.
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That story sounds just a likely as the one about Joseph being called by God to form a new religion.
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To be fair, the Missouri Governor DID essentially declare open season on Mormons, but only AFTER one of their mobs [an estimated 2,500 strong] swarmed the jail where Smith was being held after being tried/convicted and sentenced to death for treason by a military tribunal. And, since many Mormons were Masonic members in Illinois [an estimated statewide 1,500 in 1842 but only a wealthy few in Nauvoo] it's silly to assume they murdered Smith, who is on record for only attending three meetings in the Nauvoo Masonic Lodge. It was actually Brigham Young who urged the local ranking Mason, Lucius N. Scovil, to scale back Masonic activity... so if anyone it should've been Young the Masons were eager to hang and not Smith.

But your point is well-taken!

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Incorrect.

Joseph was murdered by Masons.

Brigham Young never spoke badly of him.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78989490


Joseph was a mason. There are tons of parallels between the two faiths. The rites and degrees of mormonism are loosely based on the masonic.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79491878


Joseph didn’t join the Masons until 1842, which is 22 years after he was called as a Prophet and 12 years after the Book of Mormon was published. Joseph joined out of desperation because he needed allies after the Governor of Missouri issued an order saying it was legal to kill all Mormons.

Soon after joining, Joseph saw what it was and left. Much of his revelations came as the result of contact with things he experienced and Masonic rituals became the catalyst for God revealing to him a way that God could endow His followers with additional protections and powers via the Endowment ordinance.

For taking elements of the Masonic ceremonies and converting them to a Christian purpose, the Masons murdered Joseph.
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The REAL issue is simply this:
Jesus's life and teachings DON'T NEED A FAKE ANOTHER TESTAMENT FROM SOME 1800s wanna be swinger wanting to fuck all the girls through a hole in a sheet.

The entire LDS thing is just another money and power seeking scam like scientology designed to create a pathway to females and money.

It is what it is.
No more. No less.
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Arent you all the ones where the guy tells everyone what to do based on what was written on a gold tablet but when others wanted to see the gold tablet he couldn't find it....or something like that?
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The Angel took the tablet back because it was the only way to keep it safe. Think how much 20 pounds of gold would be worth.
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You lost me at " LDS"

My ex inlaws are LDS and their entire house is a shrine to the temple in Utah.

Thou shalt have NO other gods before me.
Thou shall not make unto any graven images.

You people believe in The Pearl of Great Price and Joseph but Joseph was nothing but a thief and a scammer.
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Makes perfect sense that God’s Prophet who opened the last dispensation would be one of the most lied about people in modern history.
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There is no last dispensation except Christ Jesus ushering in the "New and everlasting Covenant" in this Church Age, which is the last and final dispensation. Your false prophet was not ushering in the final dispensation. This statement makes me mad and I hardly ever get mad here.
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anyway, the point is:

yall might disregard the op here, but the op isn't just speaking off the cuff.

this is a shared belief of mormons, and they are ready for it.

are you?
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The OP is not a shared belief of Mormons. At all. OP is Mormon fan fic.
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Joseph was a mason. There are tons of parallels between the two faiths. The rites and degrees of mormonism are loosely based on the masonic.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79491878


Joseph didn’t join the Masons until 1842, which is 22 years after he was called as a Prophet and 12 years after the Book of Mormon was published. Joseph joined out of desperation because he needed allies after the Governor of Missouri issued an order saying it was legal to kill all Mormons.

Soon after joining, Joseph saw what it was and left. Much of his revelations came as the result of contact with things he experienced and Masonic rituals became the catalyst for God revealing to him a way that God could endow His followers with additional protections and powers via the Endowment ordinance.

For taking elements of the Masonic ceremonies and converting them to a Christian purpose, the Masons murdered Joseph.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78989490


The REAL issue is simply this:
Jesus's life and teachings DON'T NEED A FAKE ANOTHER TESTAMENT FROM SOME 1800s wanna be swinger wanting to fuck all the girls through a hole in a sheet.

The entire LDS thing is just another money and power seeking scam like scientology designed to create a pathway to females and money.

It is what it is.
No more. No less.
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and the fact remains that Jesus specifically taught that you don't need to be led by the nose by corrupted money seeking self sanctified strangers franchising Jesus's simple and easily understood principles, so, knowing that exactly who and what would command Christianity be perverted into exactly the opposite of what Jesus taught.
And coincidentally Jesus never taught to deity and exempt a certain tribe from following his rules for everyone, yet moronmons did exactly that?
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op you spelled LSD wrong
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Comeon, tell us what we REALLY want to know: what are you going to name your personal planet once you get it?

BTW: not to put too fine a point on it, but Joseph Smith -the founder of your religion- was a con-artist who was shot in the back jumping out a second-story jail window as a lynch mob approached with a noose. He was arrested for sedition. So, there's that for you to conveniently ignore.

And as for Brigham Young? He wasted no time in seizing power over the faithful once Smith was cooling his heels in jail and his own flock began calling their chosen Messiah a "fallen prophet".

That'd be somewhat like Judas rising as the leader of Christianity once Jesus was crucified, wouldn't it? Food for thought, even in a well-stocked pantry!
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Incorrect.

Joseph was murdered by Masons.

Brigham Young never spoke badly of him.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78989490


You can try to revise history all you want but to suggest that every member of Smith's vigilante lynch mob was a Mason is simply ridiculous, particularly since by the mid-1800's Masonry was on the decline in the United States and was certainly NOT prevalent in Nauvoo, Illinois in 1844.

And, I'd be interested to know you can state that Young never spoke a harsh word about a man whose downfall embarrassed the entire sect - and whose "murder" prompted their exodus in the first place.

Nice try, but documented history is your friend.
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You’re making things up.

If Masons weren’t prominent in the Nauvoo area then how was Joseph ever able to join? Of course not every member of the mob was a Mason. But its leaders were.

As for Brigham, his words speak for themselves.

“I never saw any one, until I met Joseph Smith, who could tell me anything about the character, personality, and dwelling-place of God, or anything satisfactory about angels, or the relationship of man to his Maker. Yet I was as diligent as any man need be to try and find out these things.”

- Brigham Young

“He took heaven, figuratively speaking, and brought it down to earth; and he took earth, brought it up, and opened up, in plainness and simplicity, the things of God; and that is the beauty of his mission. I had a testimony, long before that, that he was a Prophet of the Lord, and that was consoling. Did not Joseph do the same to your understandings? Would he not take the Scriptures and make them so plain and simple that everybody could understand?”

- Brigham Young





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