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Risk Assessment: Airborne HIV Outbreak Among Sputnik V Recipients - Binary Biocatastrophe

 
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The second shot of Sputnik V contains Ad5 Adenovirus. So does the second dose of the Johnson & Johnson and the Chinese single dose vaccine Convidecia, with some differences in manufacturing and choice of gene deletions.

Ad5 is known to sensitize immune cells to HIV Infection.


Preferential infection of human Ad5-specific CD4 T cells by HIV in Ad5 naturally exposed and recombinant Ad5-HIV vaccinated individuals | PNAS
[link to www.pnas.org (secure)]

To prevent a full blown Ad5 infection, the process of rendering the vector replication deficient is carried out under the strictest of quality control. However, recent news has shown that there can be problems of live replication competent Ad5 making it in the vaccine like what the Brazilians encountered with their Sputnik V batches.


Brazil Rejects the Gamaleya Vaccine | In the Pipeline
[link to blogs.sciencemag.org (secure)]

Canada has a highly evolved strain of HIV going around that targets a particular human leukocyte antigen called B-51:01. While the indigenous populations have the highest rates of this "HLA", it is not at all uncommon worldwide. Furthermore, this strain has little latency period -- it goes from HIV to AIDS fast.


Perspectives of Saskatchewan researchers and community members on HIV-1 strains circulating in Saskatchewan
[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

Extensive host immune adaptation in a concentrated North American HIV epidemic
[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

Based on what information we can draw from the Brazilian Sputnik V vaccine fiasco, when Sputnik V vaccine recipients travel to Canada, a proportion of those travellers will have a latent infection with the replication competent Ad5 virus used in the second Sputnik shot. And, depending on their HLA type, they could potentially catch the Saskatchewan HIV virus through saliva droplets in the air alone and bring that virus to their home country where havok would ensue.

The following ethnic groups/nations have the highest frequency of the B-51:01 human leukocyte antigen -- Cree Canadian, Northern Italians, Bulgarians, Saudi Arabians, Japanese Hokkaido Ainu, Chinese Uyghurs, Oman, Armenians, Greeks, Tibetans, etcetera.

Take for example the Northern Italians, the highest B-51:01 allele frequency next to Cree Amerindians.

San Marino finally gets vaccines, but goes with Sputnik V
[link to abcnews.go.com (secure)]

From San Marino, the Sputnik Ad5 vector could spread to others in the region who may end up travelling to Canada and being exposed to the Saskatchewan HIV and bringing it back home.


Inside Torontos HIV-positive pop-up restaurant Junes Eatery - NOW Magazine
[link to nowtoronto.com (secure)]

Casey House opens worlds first HIV+ spa in Toronto - NOW Magazine
[link to nowtoronto.com (secure)]

I don't believe Italy has deployed Sputnik V yet and neither has France, but they seem to intend to do so.

Mexico has already deployed the first shot of the Sputnik V vaccine in high numbers and if the second shots are supplied, will do the job of spreading the Ad5 vector to the USA, making them vulnerable once the airborne HIV gets rolling.


Mexico: Russia's Sputnik V shortages mean limited 2nd doses - ABC News
[link to abcnews.go.com (secure)]

I get the feeling the Sputnik V Brazil affair has given the manufacturer cold feet about whether or not new batches of the second dose that they produce will be scrutinized for live virus after this embarrassment.

It's also worth noting that the clinical trials of Sputnik V and Convidecia required negative HIV diagnosis for inclusion while the Johnson & Johnson explicitly included ART stabilized HIV positive subjects in their trials.

Questions section:

Question: Is the discovery of live Ad5 vector in Sputnuk V vaccine exclusive to this brand of vaccine or is it implicit in the various Ad5 vector COVID shots manufacturing process?


Question: Is the presence of latent Ad5 virus vector or Ad5 vector wild hybrid a strong enough softening agent to predispose chronic Ad5 infected to airborne saliva HIV infection?


Question: How does the short latency period Saskatchewan HIV strain effect the risk of a global airborne HIV catastrophe among Ad5 vaccine recipients?


Question: How virulent are the live Ad5 virus vector strains found by Brazil to be in the Sputnik V vaccine and how does this effect the risk of global HIV transmission in general and specifically the risk of an emergent airborne HIV strain? How do spike protein plasmid presences in adenoviruses effect adenovirus and HIV transmission rates and transmission routes?


Question: Assuming Ad5/HLA:5101 salivary droplet inhalation vulnerability to various HIV strains, what is the risk of HIV strains gaining mutations further facilitating airborne transmission?


Question: Do these risks warrant HIV testing and adenovirus testing/monitoring be performed alongside COVID testing?
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Just goes to show that it's better stick to mRNA instead of these old-fashioned virus-vector vaccines.
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Just goes to show that it's better stick to mRNA instead of these old-fashioned virus-vector vaccines.
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how about neither. no thanks. i'll go without any franken poison.
No vax, NEVER! #clotshot

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Just goes to show that it's better stick to mRNA instead of these old-fashioned virus-vector vaccines.
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Lol
Neither are *old fashioned virus vector vaccines*.
Sputnik, JJJ and AstraZeneca use gmo dna, the human or chimp adenovirus is the delivery vehicle
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Just goes to show that it's better stick to mRNA instead of these old-fashioned virus-vector vaccines.
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I Trust MY Immune System with Thousands of years of Adapting to Combat this type of Virus.

Big Pharma is No Friend of Humanity.

With a 99% survivability I'll take Those Odds any Day I'm Healthy.

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Notice the Ad5 HIV paper linked was edited by none other than Robert Gallo himself, who has been accused of creating HIV while working at Litton Bionetics.

Why doing nothing may sometimes be the best action of all
[link to www.lifehack.org (secure)]


1.) Leak Extra-Contagious Coronavirus That Targets Lung Immune Cells
2.) Exploit Government Bias to Action to Sell Experimental Vaccines that Further Weaken Lung Immunity, Profit $$$.
3.) Unchecked "Self-Spreading Vaccine" Ad5 Epidemic
4.) Predictable Global Airborne HIV Catastrophe, Governments Ignore it Long Enough For it to Spread
5.) Sell HIV Vaccines/PREP for life to all who received the adenovirus vaccine or test positive for chronic Ad5, Profit $$$.




Impact: Assuming widespread Ad5 epidemic and concomitant airborne HIV outbreak, Genetic Adapted Airborne HIV hits indigenous Canadians hard (Reduces Canadian govt payout burden), hits Northern Italy Hard (Supplier to Iran), Saudi Arabia/UAE hit hard, hits Bulgarians, Greeks, and Armenians hard (Russia's fair-weather friends), hits some Hans in China (a little population reduction), but hits India, Japanese, Mongolians, Tibetans and Uyghurs harder (China's undesirables)
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Just goes to show that it's better stick to mRNA instead of these old-fashioned virus-vector vaccines.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80031848


how about neither. no thanks. i'll go without any franken poison.
 Quoting: JJ Johns


NO THANKS. I WILL TAKE MY D, C, AND ZINK AND CBD.
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This Adenovirus has popped up on many of my CRISPR searches.

There is the question of replication and the so called Viral SHELL with the coded DNA in it and the CRISPR bacterium used for splicing

I think its both, virus and bacterium. the virus shell is good enough for me to want to avoid all of it.

SO yes in all the vaccines there is a problem.

HOW IS IT REPLICATING - like a virus
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10 hours ago this was uploaded to CBS Youtube:

Russia's Sputnik V COVID-19 vaccine faces questions and hurdles overseas



A few hours after the , Yahoo News interviewed Carlo Martuscelli over the same topic.
[link to news.yahoo.com (secure)]

In the CBS Interview with Carlo Martuscelli, reporter for POLITICO Europe, mentioned this British Medical Journal Paper.

March 19, 2021
Covid-19: What do we know about Sputnik V and other Russian vaccines?
[link to www.bmj.com (secure)]


The highlight of the BMJ letter is that the Sputnik V manufacturer provided results data is "too good to be true", in those words. Martuscelli characterizes the letter as stating the data was "too regular". Martuscelli says the Brazilian regulatory authority Anvisa say that there were "quality issues" and their inspectors were barred from certain facilities, however does not broach the subject at hand, the presence of replication competent (contagious) adenovirus vector in the batches of vaccine received by regulatory authorities. He does say in the interview that European Medicines Agency former boss said Brazil's concerns should be taken seriously. However he glosses over the issue of Russia's demand to Slovakia to return the Sputnik V vaccine for breach of contract. The highlight of that debacle in Slovakia is that the contract to get Sputnik V includes stipulations to prohibit the recipient nation to do their own tests on the vaccine! If that isn't a red-flag I don't know what is.


Russians request Slovakia to return Sputnik V vaccine after dispute over testing

[link to intellinews.com (secure)]

I think it's important to look at Carlo Martuscelli's political views with regards to HIV in public health.

HIV patients face lingering discrimination from doctors
[link to www.politico.eu (secure)]

After reading the article it appears that Carlo Martuscelli takes the point of view that HIV should be de-stigmatized. Given what you have by now read about the shady Sputnik V contract and adenovirus 5 infection's sensitizing effect on catching HIV, is Martuscelli under-reporting of the risk of a replication competent, spike protein plasmid payload delivering adenovirus 5 vector in Sputnik V vaccine? What do you think?
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Well, for one, the J&J vaccine is single dose, not two doses.
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Well, for one, the J&J vaccine is single dose, not two doses.
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Thanks so much for the correction there, I am my own copy editor and any reply is a bump and more eyes need to be on this.

What you wrote is true at this moment, but it will change.. I was getting ahead of myself a bit.

Jansen (Johnson & Johnson) "Ensemble 2" two dose vaccine currently in Phase 3 trial.



Johnson & Johnson Announces a Lead Vaccine Candidate for COVID-19; Landmark New Partnership with U.S. Department of Health & Human Services; and Commitment to Supply One Billion Vaccines Worldwide for Emergency Pandemic Use

[link to www.henryford.com (secure)]

Tumorigenicity assessments of Per.C6 cells and of an Ad5-vectored HIV-1 vaccine produced on this continuous cell line
[link to pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]


If you consult Wikipedia for information about the current phase of one-dose J&J vaccine, you'd think that it was an Ad26 vaccine. Do a search, Ad5 is nowhere on the page. The advocates say that Ad26 is selected because Ad5 antibodies are already in mankind and Ad26 rarity in nature will make it more likely to do it's job before being attacked by the immune system. But Ad5 has a bad reputation. They replaced in the critical E region of the Ad26 with Adenovirus Type 5 (Ad5) E1A and E1B genes. So it can be said truthfully that the J&J is an Ad26/Ad5 hybrid.

Some COVID-19 vaccines could increase risk of HIV, researchers warn (Oct 2020)

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Adenovirus antibodies assist HIV (2008)
[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

The above paper describes why they believe the HIV vaccine trials failed.

"HIV spread through T cell–dendritic cell (DC) co-cultures three times as fast when Ad5 and neutralizing antiserum—present in people with prior immunity—was added to the cultures. "

But it's no news. Robert Strecker knew.

Dr. Robert Strecker: The Strecker Memorandum
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Bulletin of the WHO - Memorandum (1972), pg 259
[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

"An attempt should be made to ascertain whether viruses can in fact exert selective effects on immune function, e.g., by depressing 7S versus 19S antibody, or by affecting T cell function as opposed to B cell function (Allison et al.,1971). The possibility should also be looked into that the immune response to the virus may itself be impaired if the infecting virus damages more or less selectively the cells responding to the viral antigens. If this proves to be the case, virus-induced immunodepression might conceivably be highly instrumental in prolonging certain virus infections, such as murine leukaemia, hepatitis, sub-acute sclerosing panencephalitis, or infections caused by LDV, LCMV, or ADV."

"Now what does that say? That says, 'Let's make a virus that selectively inhibits the T-cell system of man.' And of course, what is that virus? That virus is AIDS. So is it a mere coincidence that we have a pandemic of a T-cell destroying virus that was in a sense, predicted, and here, requested, growing in Africa and in the United States?"-Robert Strecker MD
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I didn’t read this entirely but wondered... didn’t people in the trials test positive for HIV? This was very early in the trials. I remember reading it and wondered what would happen. Never saw anymore about it.
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Just goes to show that it's better stick to mRNA instead of these old-fashioned virus-vector vaccines.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80031848


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I Trust MY Immune System with Thousands of years of Adapting to Combat this type of Virus.

Big Pharma is No Friend of Humanity.

With a 99% survivability I'll take Those Odds any Day I'm Healthy.

.
 Quoting: . 80376519


How old are you that your immune system has apparently had thousands of years to adapt? Asking for a friend.
The answer that requires the fewest assumptions is generally the correct one.
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This world is getting more and more terrifying. I'm getting to where I'm going to be afraid to leave the house :(

Geez....I need to rewire my brain to be tougher. This is ridiculous.

Are they actually trying to kill the whole world????
Goodbye, halcyon days...

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There is another theory mentioned, which states that this has already happened.
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This world is getting more and more terrifying. I'm getting to where I'm going to be afraid to leave the house :(

Geez....I need to rewire my brain to be tougher. This is ridiculous.

Are they actually trying to kill the whole world????
 Quoting: Only Me


Not all, just most.
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I didn’t read this entirely but wondered... didn’t people in the trials test positive for HIV? This was very early in the trials. I remember reading it and wondered what would happen. Never saw anymore about it.
 Quoting: Elisa


Yes in the J&J Trials, the criteria was that HIV positive trial participants had to be "stabilized" and on anti-retroviral therapy. But no one was on the trial with HIV untreated, those patients would have been excluded in the trial specification.
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I didn’t read this entirely but wondered... didn’t people in the trials test positive for HIV? This was very early in the trials. I remember reading it and wondered what would happen. Never saw anymore about it.
 Quoting: Elisa


Yes in the J&J Trials, the criteria was that HIV positive trial participants had to be "stabilized" and on anti-retroviral therapy. But no one was on the trial with HIV untreated, those patients would have been excluded in the trial specification.
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NO, wrong. I should always get the sauce first before I press "Post". No HIV positive at all tested for J&J... Oxford/Astrazeneca Yes, if on ART, Johnson & Johnson: Excluded.



Johnson & Johnson
[link to clinicaltrials.gov (secure)]



Oxford/AstraZeneca
[link to clinicaltrials.gov (secure)]
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Totally makes sense. The wuhan19 creator said in an interview an HIV gene was added to the spike protein for better human cell transmission.
But as per the CRISPR inventor, we don't really know all the interactions between genes. So that spike protein HIV gene must have more going for it.
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They love HIV.

They keep tinkering with it, coming up with all sorts of threats for us to deal with.
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J&J vaccine is a single dose Ad26 vector, no Ad5.
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All I got from that is

zombies
Prepare yourself for the coming power outage!!

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This world is getting more and more terrifying. I'm getting to where I'm going to be afraid to leave the house :(

Geez....I need to rewire my brain to be tougher. This is ridiculous.

Are they actually trying to kill the whole world????
 Quoting: Only Me



I guess it depends on who you mean by they. Some people certainly are trying to kill the world in my opinion.


When HIV Is Considered A Gift
We talked to an HIV+ man about why some Danes are purposely contracting the virus.
[link to www.vice.com (secure)]


An Undercover Look Inside the World of HIV Bug Chasers and Gift Givers
Officials boast of San Francisco's success in lowering its HIV infection rate, but a dangerous subculture is undermining those efforts by spreading the virus on purpose.
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Just goes to show that it's better stick to mRNA instead of these old-fashioned virus-vector vaccines.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80031848


how about neither. no thanks. i'll go without any franken poison.
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That's just hurtful and insensitive.
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All I got from that is

zombies
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That's what it always comes down to.
You survive, then Carl dies, and that dickhead Gimple continues to run the show.
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Just goes to show that it's better stick to mRNA instead of these old-fashioned virus-vector vaccines.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80031848


No. We have to deal with certain 'viruses' from a less

invasive point. NO VACCINES for these viruses.

Use the supplements available and maybe consider

giving ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine

and other medications.

F*ck vaccines...
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This world is getting more and more terrifying. I'm getting to where I'm going to be afraid to leave the house :(

Geez....I need to rewire my brain to be tougher. This is ridiculous.

Are they actually trying to kill the whole world????
 Quoting: Only Me


Not all, just most.
 Quoting: Elisa


Right, it's more of an inconveniencide.
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I didn’t read this entirely but wondered... didn’t people in the trials test positive for HIV? This was very early in the trials. I remember reading it and wondered what would happen. Never saw anymore about it.
 Quoting: Elisa


Yes in the J&J Trials, the criteria was that HIV positive trial participants had to be "stabilized" and on anti-retroviral therapy. But no one was on the trial with HIV untreated, those patients would have been excluded in the trial specification.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78094101


NO, wrong. I should always get the sauce first before I press "Post". No HIV positive at all tested for J&J... Oxford/Astrazeneca Yes, if on ART, Johnson & Johnson: Excluded.



Johnson & Johnson
[link to clinicaltrials.gov (secure)]



Oxford/AstraZeneca
[link to clinicaltrials.gov (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78094101


Thanks, this thread reminded me of that. I will check out your links hf
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This world is getting more and more terrifying. I'm getting to where I'm going to be afraid to leave the house :(

Geez....I need to rewire my brain to be tougher. This is ridiculous.

Are they actually trying to kill the whole world????
 Quoting: Only Me


Not all, just most.
 Quoting: Elisa


shesright

It's time to prepare our minds for some seriously messed up shit.

I had dreams about all this crap in 2018 and 19. Without going into too much detail, I dreamt of the cities being abandoned and green acid drops filled with viral infection raining down on everything.

At the time, I was thinking WTF is coming?

It's going to get a lot worse.
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This world is getting more and more terrifying. I'm getting to where I'm going to be afraid to leave the house :(

Geez....I need to rewire my brain to be tougher. This is ridiculous.

Are they actually trying to kill the whole world????
 Quoting: Only Me


Your catching on.

Good job girl. Is this all it takes to get you to pay attention.

Listen honey, if you haven't got the stomach for slaughter, on an epic scale, you're on the wrong planet right now.

2020 was NOTHING. The real show starts soon.
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Sputnik is an interesting name for a vaccine
Linking the Corona Hoax to the Space Hoax
Maybe they'll blame the pandemic on space satellites

Like in the story Andromeda Strain
Blame those Chinese satellites crashing back to earth contaminated with microbes

Or maybe blame it on the jet stream carrying the virus & its mutations across the globe simultaneously
Then the altered jet stream can be blamed on Climate Change





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