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Hoover Dam/Lake Mead -- Western US Megadrought

 
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Hoover Dam/Lake Mead -- Western US Megadrought
Lake Mead's water level is currently 1072.11 feet. Deadpool is 895 feet, a level at which no hydroelectric power can be generated.
[link to mead.uslakes.info]

In May it dropped 6.16 feet to below 1075 feet, a point which will induce water restrictions for Arizona.
Once it hits 1045 feet California will be mandated for certain water restrictions.

Likely farmers first.. which is kinda crazy considering - food!

At a 6 foot drop per month it would be around 1048 feet by the first week of October.
They had originally, early in 2021, said that they expected the water level to drop below 1075 in August this year but it happened last month in May. Seems like they are hoping for the best in a 22-year megadrought scenario - only 5 of those 22 years have been considered wet years.

June 2021 & June 2020 Drought Map comparison

[imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)]


You can compare any 2 weeks here --> [link to droughtmonitor.unl.edu (secure)]

On a side note, for Ammon Bundy fans.. he is running for Governor in the state of Idaho in 2022 and has inserted himself in a developing drought matter that could turn serious along the California-Oregon border on the lower Klamath river.
[link to www.msn.com (secure)]


More info on Lake Mead can be found here --> [link to www.msn.com (secure)]
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Re: Hoover Dam/Lake Mead -- Western US Megadrought
I think it's not drought but that they are draining mead to fill caverns with water for the DUMBs.
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I think it's not drought but that they are draining mead to fill caverns with water for the DUMBs.
 Quoting: PeterWiggin


Very plausible
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Re: Hoover Dam/Lake Mead -- Western US Megadrought
I think it's not drought but that they are draining mead to fill caverns with water for the DUMBs.
 Quoting: PeterWiggin


If they are needing water for an underground facility then they would have underground water piped in for they wouldn't know how long they'd be sequestered.

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It's a megadrought
no doubt!!!
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I think it's not drought but that they are draining mead to fill caverns with water for the DUMBs.
 Quoting: PeterWiggin


I wouldn't doubt this as well concerning the DUMBs. With that being said though, it has been dry as hell. Nowhere near enough snow and rain.
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Re: Hoover Dam/Lake Mead -- Western US Megadrought
I think it's not drought but that they are draining mead to fill caverns with water for the DUMBs.
 Quoting: PeterWiggin


If they are needing water for an underground facility then they would have underground water piped in for they wouldn't know how long they'd be sequestered.
!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78689367


Agreed!

So where is that water coming from?
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Re: Hoover Dam/Lake Mead -- Western US Megadrought
I think it's not drought but that they are draining mead to fill caverns with water for the DUMBs.
 Quoting: PeterWiggin


If they are needing water for an underground facility then they would have underground water piped in for they wouldn't know how long they'd be sequestered.
!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78689367


Agreed!

So where is that water coming from?
 Quoting: PeterWiggin


The problem is lack of water...see the title!

Not a DUMB thread.
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Re: Hoover Dam/Lake Mead -- Western US Megadrought
drought and floods run in cycles

i saw the Hoover Dam spillways opened in 1983 because there was too much water

that will happen again
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Because it's an engineered CONTROLLED lake level. The narrative is created to push 'water usage' awareness. Same as 'carbon usage' coming from BUILD BACK BETTER. In the coming years, your VAX passport (and 5G) will monitor all your usage, travel and consumption.

Just do some quick Google research. It's the same story published every 5-10 years.

August 2010
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NY Times

May 2016
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AZ News

May 2021
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AZ Central
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I think it's not drought but that they are draining mead to fill caverns with water for the DUMBs.
 Quoting: PeterWiggin


If they are needing water for an underground facility then they would have underground water piped in for they wouldn't know how long they'd be sequestered.
!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78689367


Agreed!

So where is that water coming from?
 Quoting: PeterWiggin


The problem is lack of water...see the title!

Not a DUMB thread.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78689367


Except that IF there are DUMBs in the area then they need water, yes?

Where would that water come from?
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Re: Hoover Dam/Lake Mead -- Western US Megadrought
Because it's an engineered CONTROLLED lake level. The narrative is created to push 'water usage' awareness. Same as 'carbon usage' coming from BUILD BACK BETTER. In the coming years, your VAX passport (and 5G) will monitor all your usage, travel and consumption.

Just do some quick Google research. It's the same story published every 5-10 years.

August 2010
Level: 1,087
NY Times

May 2016
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AZ News

May 2021
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AZ Central
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78801017


Yes, it's been a story.

Hello 22-year megadrought.

Historic low is 1071.x (2016) - we'll sail past that in about a week.

The lake could drop below 1050 by October. No way they'd purposely shut off the flow.

Our current drought monitor map is worse now - before official summer - than it was last year at the end of summer.

The drought is serious business if people wish to accept it or not.

Ask Ammon Bundy.

Considerably worse.
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I think it's not drought but that they are draining mead to fill caverns with water for the DUMBs.
 Quoting: PeterWiggin



I think you are right!


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Re: Hoover Dam/Lake Mead -- Western US Megadrought
I think it's not drought but that they are draining mead to fill caverns with water for the DUMBs.
 Quoting: PeterWiggin



I think you are right!


[link to californiaglobe.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79588842


Thanks!

Side note... Our planet cannot have a water issue. It's an energy and politics issue. why can we build oil pipelines but not desalination plants and pipelines?
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Re: Hoover Dam/Lake Mead -- Western US Megadrought
Northern Arizona had record snow fall this year. Ski resorts were open until late April and started early November.

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I think it's not drought but that they are draining mead to fill caverns with water for the DUMBs.
 Quoting: PeterWiggin


Very plausible
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Very plausible which means deep caverns/DUMPs.
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Re: Hoover Dam/Lake Mead -- Western US Megadrought
Kamala recently bragged that wars will be fought over water.
I’m sure she meant domestic since her buddies have been buying up aquifers
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In my area I am seeing a rapid rise in mange in the wildlife as well as conjunctivitis and other immune system deficiency symptoms and a near total crash of insect life . The insectivores are really feeling it .

It's dry as a popcorn fart here and has been all spring . Nothing good will come of it .
Male angler fish give meaning to the term bite me .
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Re: Hoover Dam/Lake Mead -- Western US Megadrought
I think it's not drought but that they are draining mead to fill caverns with water for the DUMBs.
 Quoting: PeterWiggin


BINGO

NAILED IT

THEY DID THE SAME THING IN THE 70'S

THEY DRAINED THE RESIVORS BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT THERE WOULD BE RECORD AMOUNT OF RAIN FALL THE NEXT YEAR

AND THERE WASN'T

FOR 5 YEARS CALIF SUFFERED BECAUSE OF STUPID PEOPLE

REMEMBER

POLOSIIIII SAID

WE WILL TELL YOU WHAT TO BELIEVE

AND

YOU WILL OBEY
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Re: Hoover Dam/Lake Mead -- Western US Megadrought
WE WENT TO TAHOE THE LAKE WAS NEAR THE TOP

SHASTA NEAR THE TOP

WHAT A BUNCH OF LIARS
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Re: Hoover Dam/Lake Mead -- Western US Megadrought
Drained on purpose - Loving government will allow you water - maybe .


Hang these fuckers
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Kamala recently bragged that wars will be fought over water.
I’m sure she meant domestic since her buddies have been buying up aquifers
 Quoting: Hobo Babylon


IT'S ONE THING TO SAY IT

IT'S QUITE A DIFFERENT ONE TO SET IT UP

THE REAL QUESTION IS

DID THEY VIOLATE OUR FREEWILL GIVEN TO US BY THE GRACE OF THE FATHER IN HEAVEN

YES !!!

DO YOU CLAIM THE RIGHT TO YOUR FREEWILL???

BY DOING SO

ALL THE VIOLATORS WILL BURN AND BE BURNED UP

WHAT WILL BE LEFT IS

THE NEW EARTH

IT IS WRITTEN

AMEN
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Re: Hoover Dam/Lake Mead -- Western US Megadrought
I have followed the water levels of Lake Mead since the early 1970s. I am well versed in the annual, planned, increase, and decrease of water levels. In general, all news, and threads here regarding an ongoing disaster are total bullshit.

This spring the issue is a bit more real. The issue is not a draught in the "west" (southern Nevada gets around 4.5 inches per year), but a lack of a good snowpack in the Rockies. This water year was bad but by no means the worst-regarding what matters-the snowfall. Amounts vary wildly year from to year. When you have several well below average snow pack years, the lakes will drop to such levels that emergency procedures kick in.

Lake Mead has a required minimum release of 9,000,000 cubic acre-feet of water a year. That is a lot of water--not even considering that "full pool" is about 25,000,000 million acre-feet of water--a level not seen for decades.

If the total release was reduced by even 5% 30 years ago, Lake Mead would be using the emergency spillways nearly every spring--instead of preparing for emergency shortage actions.

It is a management issue more than anything else. The water use is for another thread perhaps. If one is interested in just how critical the water uses are, just read up on Saudi Arabian farms at Blyth, CA which gets is Colorado River water--FOR FREE so they can grow feed for their home nation.
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Re: Hoover Dam/Lake Mead -- Western US Megadrought
Lake Mead's water level is currently 1072.11 feet. Deadpool is 895 feet, a level at which no hydroelectric power can be generated.
[link to mead.uslakes.info]

In May it dropped 6.16 feet to below 1075 feet, a point which will induce water restrictions for Arizona.
Once it hits 1045 feet California will be mandated for certain water restrictions.

Likely farmers first.. which is kinda crazy considering - food!

At a 6 foot drop per month it would be around 1048 feet by the first week of October.
They had originally, early in 2021, said that they expected the water level to drop below 1075 in August this year but it happened last month in May. Seems like they are hoping for the best in a 22-year megadrought scenario - only 5 of those 22 years have been considered wet years.

June 2021 & June 2020 Drought Map comparison

[imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)]


You can compare any 2 weeks here --> [link to droughtmonitor.unl.edu (secure)]

On a side note, for Ammon Bundy fans.. he is running for Governor in the state of Idaho in 2022 and has inserted himself in a developing drought matter that could turn serious along the California-Oregon border on the lower Klamath river.
[link to www.msn.com (secure)]


More info on Lake Mead can be found here --> [link to www.msn.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78689367

Such bullshit when are you idiots going to realize there was no drought during the last administration and now there is.
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Re: Hoover Dam/Lake Mead -- Western US Megadrought
Lake Mead's water level is currently 1072.11 feet. Deadpool is 895 feet, a level at which no hydroelectric power can be generated.
[link to mead.uslakes.info]

In May it dropped 6.16 feet to below 1075 feet, a point which will induce water restrictions for Arizona.
Once it hits 1045 feet California will be mandated for certain water restrictions.

Likely farmers first.. which is kinda crazy considering - food!

At a 6 foot drop per month it would be around 1048 feet by the first week of October.
They had originally, early in 2021, said that they expected the water level to drop below 1075 in August this year but it happened last month in May. Seems like they are hoping for the best in a 22-year megadrought scenario - only 5 of those 22 years have been considered wet years.

June 2021 & June 2020 Drought Map comparison

[imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)]


You can compare any 2 weeks here --> [link to droughtmonitor.unl.edu (secure)]

On a side note, for Ammon Bundy fans.. he is running for Governor in the state of Idaho in 2022 and has inserted himself in a developing drought matter that could turn serious along the California-Oregon border on the lower Klamath river.
[link to www.msn.com (secure)]


More info on Lake Mead can be found here --> [link to www.msn.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78689367


Those sons of bitches those dirty people.
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California should be on their own and de-mothball their brand new desalinization plant constructed in the 80's.

Cali is one huge water-hog just to protect the smelt guppies that are more important than drinking water for their millions of illegals.

CUT OFF CALIFORNIA FROM LAKE MEAD!

granny
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Mega mega mega stuff
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...just read up on Saudi Arabian farms at Blyth, CA which gets is Colorado River water--FOR FREE so they can grow feed for their home nation.
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Correct. In Arizona the Yavapai nation gets free water. The golf course in mid-summer is so saturated, the grass is spongy.
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Re: Hoover Dam/Lake Mead -- Western US Megadrought
everything according to plan
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Re: Hoover Dam/Lake Mead -- Western US Megadrought
Because it's an engineered CONTROLLED lake level. The narrative is created to push 'water usage' awareness. Same as 'carbon usage' coming from BUILD BACK BETTER. In the coming years, your VAX passport (and 5G) will monitor all your usage, travel and consumption.

Just do some quick Google research. It's the same story published every 5-10 years.

August 2010
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NY Times

May 2016
Level: 1,075
AZ News

May 2021
Level: 1,075
AZ Central
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78801017


research2
Warning: JustSomeGuy_42 is a publicly confessed unvaxxed neophiliac .

If the number 666 is considered evil.
then technically, 25.8069758 is the root
of all evil.
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It's still running. What's the issue?
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Re: Hoover Dam/Lake Mead -- Western US Megadrought
Well lake mead is Man made and cities like vegas were built in the middle of the desert eventually nature will take over that is a fact of life ..

Never should of built major cities in the desert ..

got the ocean i gues we better start piping it in and pump up desalination plants . I doubt we'll run the ocean dry ..

The problem is humanity lets politics money greed bind them forever and ever never to move forward into a new age .





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