I'm confused about the Covid-19 "vaccine(s)" and those who are frantically working to oppose it | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80386546 United States 06/11/2021 01:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am skeptical; however, I know MANY people who have gotten the "vaccine(s)", from all three of the major pharma companies that are producing these. Quoting: Just a guy 79913397 NONE of the well over 100 people I know who submitted to the "vaccine(s)" have had ANY issues other than either a sore arm for a couple days after the jab or flu-like symptoms after the 2nd shot from either Pfizer or Moderna. But then later they were ALL fine. NOBODY I know is having heart issues, NONE are having immune system issues, and ALL are living their lives in a completely normal way. I am not here to argue. I am simply asking --- is it POSSIBLE that these jabs are doing far more good than most here will admit (primarily due to bias)? Your region is part of the control group of this nationwide clinical trial that Trump volunteered us for |
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Just a guy (OP) User ID: 79913397 06/11/2021 02:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am skeptical; however, I know MANY people who have gotten the "vaccine(s)", from all three of the major pharma companies that are producing these. Quoting: Just a guy 79913397 NONE of the well over 100 people I know who submitted to the "vaccine(s)" have had ANY issues other than either a sore arm for a couple days after the jab or flu-like symptoms after the 2nd shot from either Pfizer or Moderna. But then later they were ALL fine. NOBODY I know is having heart issues, NONE are having immune system issues, and ALL are living their lives in a completely normal way. I am not here to argue. I am simply asking --- is it POSSIBLE that these jabs are doing far more good than most here will admit (primarily due to bias)? Your region is part of the control group of this nationwide clinical trial that Trump volunteered us for The "control group" indicates people who have not received the "vaccine(s)". I am clearly discussing those whom I know, who have in fact received the jab. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78658837 06/11/2021 02:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | let's say the vaccine is really safe and effective, don't you think it to be a tiny little bit strange that they also want to implement totalitarian digital security mechanisms with it, mechanisms that go far beyond the health-issue ? |
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Just a guy (OP) User ID: 79913397 06/11/2021 02:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | let's say the vaccine is really safe and effective, don't you think it to be a tiny little bit strange that they also want to implement totalitarian digital security mechanisms with it, mechanisms that go far beyond the health-issue ? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78658837 Of course, yes. That doesn't necessarily negate the effectiveness of the "vaccine(s)" as it relates to Covid-19. |
Just a guy (OP) User ID: 79913397 06/11/2021 02:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of only it were one vac. But no. WHO and CDC have multiple recommended yearly vax they are only to happy to offer and sheep willing to line up. They aren't forced, yet. Check rec vax schedule for adults and you'll see. I'm not taking yearly shots from the gov, man. That's obviously poison. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79606930 You are not the only one who is concerned, skeptical, and unsure of who to trust (me too). |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80386546 United States 06/11/2021 02:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am skeptical; however, I know MANY people who have gotten the "vaccine(s)", from all three of the major pharma companies that are producing these. Quoting: Just a guy 79913397 NONE of the well over 100 people I know who submitted to the "vaccine(s)" have had ANY issues other than either a sore arm for a couple days after the jab or flu-like symptoms after the 2nd shot from either Pfizer or Moderna. But then later they were ALL fine. NOBODY I know is having heart issues, NONE are having immune system issues, and ALL are living their lives in a completely normal way. I am not here to argue. I am simply asking --- is it POSSIBLE that these jabs are doing far more good than most here will admit (primarily due to bias)? Your region is part of the control group of this nationwide clinical trial that Trump volunteered us for The "control group" indicates people who have not received the "vaccine(s)". I am clearly discussing those whom I know, who have in fact received the jab. Actually no but thank you for proving you have no idea what you’re talking about The control group would receive a placebo in place of the free government vaccine but would not be aware which explains why so many people who have been vaxxinated are now contracting COVID you paid shill piece of shit |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79606930 United States 06/11/2021 02:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of only it were one vac. But no. WHO and CDC have multiple recommended yearly vax they are only to happy to offer and sheep willing to line up. They aren't forced, yet. Check rec vax schedule for adults and you'll see. I'm not taking yearly shots from the gov, man. That's obviously poison. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79606930 You are not the only one who is concerned, skeptical, and unsure of who to trust (me too). Right. They are not "healing" any body with a yearly vax. They're experimenting and seeing the effects. There is probably docs and data on this on some server in the vast interwebs, but we obvs don't have access. But it's clear medical and scientific results, the REAL ones, are not given to us. They are private to medical community. And then they make rules from there. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80386546 United States 06/11/2021 02:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am skeptical; however, I know MANY people who have gotten the "vaccine(s)", from all three of the major pharma companies that are producing these. Quoting: Just a guy 79913397 NONE of the well over 100 people I know who submitted to the "vaccine(s)" have had ANY issues other than either a sore arm for a couple days after the jab or flu-like symptoms after the 2nd shot from either Pfizer or Moderna. But then later they were ALL fine. NOBODY I know is having heart issues, NONE are having immune system issues, and ALL are living their lives in a completely normal way. I am not here to argue. I am simply asking --- is it POSSIBLE that these jabs are doing far more good than most here will admit (primarily due to bias)? Your region is part of the control group of this nationwide clinical trial that Trump volunteered us for The "control group" indicates people who have not received the "vaccine(s)". I am clearly discussing those whom I know, who have in fact received the jab. Actually no but thank you for proving you have no idea what you’re talking about The control group would receive a placebo in place of the free government vaccine but would not be aware which explains why so many people who have been vaxxinated are now contracting COVID you paid shill piece of shit |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76273531 United Kingdom 06/11/2021 02:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | let's say the vaccine is really safe and effective, don't you think it to be a tiny little bit strange that they also want to implement totalitarian digital security mechanisms with it, mechanisms that go far beyond the health-issue ? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78658837 Of course, yes. That doesn't necessarily negate the effectiveness of the "vaccine(s)" as it relates to Covid-19. Indeed, lol. Funny thing is, you use those words like it supports injecting anti freeze into children and others. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80386546 United States 06/11/2021 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am skeptical; however, I know MANY people who have gotten the "vaccine(s)", from all three of the major pharma companies that are producing these. Quoting: Just a guy 79913397 NONE of the well over 100 people I know who submitted to the "vaccine(s)" have had ANY issues other than either a sore arm for a couple days after the jab or flu-like symptoms after the 2nd shot from either Pfizer or Moderna. But then later they were ALL fine. NOBODY I know is having heart issues, NONE are having immune system issues, and ALL are living their lives in a completely normal way. I am not here to argue. I am simply asking --- is it POSSIBLE that these jabs are doing far more good than most here will admit (primarily due to bias)? Your region is part of the control group of this nationwide clinical trial that Trump volunteered us for The "control group" indicates people who have not received the "vaccine(s)". I am clearly discussing those whom I know, who have in fact received the jab. Actually no but thank you for proving you have no idea what you’re talking about The control group would receive a placebo in place of the free government vaccine but would not be aware which explains why so many people who have been vaxxinated are now contracting COVID you paid shill piece of shit Thread: BWAHAHAHA! ONLY fully vaccinated sheep allowed onboard and cruise ship STILL has to turn around and disembark because of "infected" (Page 5) |
Just a guy (OP) User ID: 79913397 06/11/2021 02:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of only it were one vac. But no. WHO and CDC have multiple recommended yearly vax they are only to happy to offer and sheep willing to line up. They aren't forced, yet. Check rec vax schedule for adults and you'll see. I'm not taking yearly shots from the gov, man. That's obviously poison. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79606930 You are not the only one who is concerned, skeptical, and unsure of who to trust (me too). Right. They are not "healing" any body with a yearly vax. They're experimenting and seeing the effects. There is probably docs and data on this on some server in the vast interwebs, but we obvs don't have access. But it's clear medical and scientific results, the REAL ones, are not given to us. They are private to medical community. And then they make rules from there. We should just give in and get the jab. Everything will be so much easier then. Agreed? |
JJ Johns J to the 3rd User ID: 79040165 Switzerland 06/11/2021 02:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hey shill, maybe you should talk to the cdc... so fuck off. CDC confirms 226 cases of myocarditis after COVID-19 vaccination in people 30 and under [link to www.aappublications.org (secure)] and more on this [link to www.cnbc.com (secure)] . . No clotshot, NEVER! . Mad as hell! . |
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Just a guy (OP) User ID: 79913397 06/11/2021 02:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am skeptical; however, I know MANY people who have gotten the "vaccine(s)", from all three of the major pharma companies that are producing these. Quoting: Just a guy 79913397 NONE of the well over 100 people I know who submitted to the "vaccine(s)" have had ANY issues other than either a sore arm for a couple days after the jab or flu-like symptoms after the 2nd shot from either Pfizer or Moderna. But then later they were ALL fine. NOBODY I know is having heart issues, NONE are having immune system issues, and ALL are living their lives in a completely normal way. I am not here to argue. I am simply asking --- is it POSSIBLE that these jabs are doing far more good than most here will admit (primarily due to bias)? Your region is part of the control group of this nationwide clinical trial that Trump volunteered us for The "control group" indicates people who have not received the "vaccine(s)". I am clearly discussing those whom I know, who have in fact received the jab. Actually no but thank you for proving you have no idea what you’re talking about The control group would receive a placebo in place of the free government vaccine but would not be aware which explains why so many people who have been vaxxinated are now contracting COVID you paid shill piece of shit Not true. The vaccine will help us. It would be so much easier if you would stop fight it --- just give in and get along. Life will be easy peasy then. Agreed? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78658837 06/11/2021 02:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | let's say the vaccine is really safe and effective, don't you think it to be a tiny little bit strange that they also want to implement totalitarian digital security mechanisms with it, mechanisms that go far beyond the health-issue ? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78658837 Of course, yes. That doesn't necessarily negate the effectiveness of the "vaccine(s)" as it relates to Covid-19. of course it doesn't necessarily negates the effectiveness of the vaccine as it relates to Covid-19, but it negates everything what is known as freedom and democracy. Extrapolated, this does negate everything in relation to covid. Ask yourself, why do they have priced the solution that high ? |
Just a guy (OP) User ID: 79913397 06/11/2021 02:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hey shill, maybe you should talk to the cdc... Quoting: JJ Johns so fuck off. :fuckoff: CDC confirms 226 cases of myocarditis after COVID-19 vaccination in people 30 and under [link to www.aappublications.org (secure)] and more on this [link to www.cnbc.com (secure)] 226 cases is like 0.0000000032% of the total. Next to nothing. It would have eventually happened anyway. Life will be easier if we just give in and get the jab. Get along, don't make waves. We should get the jab. Agreed? |
Just a guy (OP) User ID: 79913397 06/11/2021 02:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | let's say the vaccine is really safe and effective, don't you think it to be a tiny little bit strange that they also want to implement totalitarian digital security mechanisms with it, mechanisms that go far beyond the health-issue ? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78658837 Of course, yes. That doesn't necessarily negate the effectiveness of the "vaccine(s)" as it relates to Covid-19. of course it doesn't necessarily negates the effectiveness of the vaccine as it relates to Covid-19, but it negates everything what is known as freedom and democracy. Extrapolated, this does negate everything in relation to covid. Ask yourself, why do they have priced the solution that high ? There is no reason to ask such questions - you wouldn't understand the reasons why anyway. Life will be easier if we just give in and get the jab. Get along, don't make waves. We should get the jab. Agreed? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78658837 06/11/2021 02:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | let's say the vaccine is really safe and effective, don't you think it to be a tiny little bit strange that they also want to implement totalitarian digital security mechanisms with it, mechanisms that go far beyond the health-issue ? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78658837 Of course, yes. That doesn't necessarily negate the effectiveness of the "vaccine(s)" as it relates to Covid-19. of course it doesn't necessarily negates the effectiveness of the vaccine as it relates to Covid-19, but it negates everything what is known as freedom and democracy. Extrapolated, this does negate everything in relation to covid. Ask yourself, why do they have priced the solution that high ? There is no reason to ask such questions - you wouldn't understand the reasons why anyway. Life will be easier if we just give in and get the jab. Get along, don't make waves. We should get the jab. Agreed? ok 3.50 for you now FUCK OFF! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79606930 United States 06/11/2021 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Man I wish anonymous or whoever else is always hacking shiz would give us the info these doctors and scientists have been covering up for decades! But it will never happen. There's no justice on earth these days |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75352766 United States 06/11/2021 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How many of the people you know have been challenged with live corona since titres dropped? None. How many do you know that have had a single follow up appointment to do bloodwork or any kind of checkup in their condition since vaccination? I assume none right since nobody had any problems? No. I don't agree go along with bullshit to get along in bullshit. I'm for cutting the bullshit starting with posts like yours OP. |
YouAreDreaming User ID: 78911081 Canada 06/11/2021 02:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here you go OP... some scientific data to help you debunk the claims that the Vaccines are unsafe. For those who like Science. Quoting: YouAreDreaming SARS-CoV-2 Spike Protein Impairs Endothelial Function via Downregulation of ACE 2 - Circulation Research Sources of Funding. This work was supported in part by grants from the National Natural Science Foundation of China (NSFC) grants 81870220 (S. Wang), 81800328 (J.Z.), 81941005 (Z.-Y. Yuan); Shaanxi Natural Science Fund S2020-JC-JQ-0239 (S. Wang); The National Key Research and Development Program (Grant No. 2018YFC1311500; Z.-Y. Yuan); the Clinical Research Award of the First Affiliated ... [link to www.ahajournals.org (secure)] The novel coronavirus’ spike protein plays additional key role in illness - Salk Institute for Biological Studies LA JOLLA—Scientists have known for a while that SARS-CoV-2’s distinctive “spike” proteins help the virus infect its host by latching on to healthy cells. Now, a major new study shows that the virus spike proteins (which behave very differently than those safely encoded by vaccines) also play a key role in the disease itself. [link to www.salk.edu (secure)] mRNA synthetic gene-therapy causes gene-expression of a spike-protein that induces brain pericyte immunoreactivity in absence of productive viral infection. [link to www.biorxiv.org (secure)] Induction of IL-8 Release in Lung Cells via Activator Protein-1 by Recombinant Baculovirus Displaying Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome-Coronavirus Spike Proteins: Identification of Two Functional Regions The inflammatory response and the intracellular signaling pathway induced by severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS)-coronavirus (CoV) were studied in lung epithelial cells and fibroblasts. SARS-CoV spike (S) protein-encoding plasmid induced activations of IL-8 promoter and AP-1, but not NF-κB in these cells. Mutation of the AP-1, not the κB site, abolished the SARS-CoV S protein-induced IL-8 promoter activity. IL-8 release was effectively induced by vAtEpGS688, a baculovirus exhibiting the aa 17–688 fragment of S protein, and this induction was attenuated by the angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 Ab. Recombinant baculovirus expressing different deletion and insertion fragments identified the functional region of S protein from aa 324–688 (particularly the N-terminal aa 324–488 and the C-terminal aa 609–688), which is responsible for IL-8 production. Activations of AP-1 DNA-protein binding and MAPKs after vAtEpGS688 transduction were demonstrated, and SARS-CoV S protein-induced IL-8 promoter activity [link to www.jimmunol.org (secure)] SARS-CoV-2’s distinctive "spike" protein plays a key role in the disease itself, shows study [link to www.news-medical.net (secure)] SARS-CoV-2 spike protein induces inflammation via TLR2-dependent activation of the NF-kB pathway [link to pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)] New research published in the International Journal of Vaccine Theory, Practice, and Research has identified numerous pathways through which the messenger RNA (mRNA) injections from Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna could cause serious neurological conditions such as mad cow disease. Quoting: Swingline Dr. Stephanie Seneff, who works in the Computer Science and Artificial Intelligence Laboratory at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT), along with colleague Greg Nigh from Naturopathic Oncology in Portland, Ore., identified a “signature motif” within the injections that they say increases the risk that misfolding will occur, creating toxic oligomers. They call this the glycine zipper motif. “It is characterized by a pattern of two glycine residues spaced by three intervening amino acids, represented as GxxxG,” they explain. “The bovine prion linked to MADCOW has a spectacular sequence of ten GxxxGs in a row … (and) the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein is a transmembrane protein, and it contains five GxxxG motifs in its sequence … (and, thus) it becomes extremely plausible that it could behave as a prion.” The Research: [link to ijvtpr.com (secure)] article source: [link to www.newstarget.com (secure)] From spike-protein damage to Prion neural degenration, this kill-shot has it all covered! Thread: Covid vaccines could trigger prion-linked brain degeneration similar to mad cow disease? You can prove there is a risk of prion disease yourself!... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80388805 run the spike protein sequence (from here): [link to www.uniprot.org (secure)] through the PLAAC algorithm here: [link to plaac.wi.mit.edu] (you only need the Amino Acid sequence, not the header! AND remove all spaces ' '!!) See that red bump at position 500 for the PrD line? That's a PRION GENESIS SITE. Then, remember ALL the vaccines either have the spike, or get your cells to make the spike via mRNA... Then, remember the spikes --alone-- can cross the Blood-Brain-Barrier: [link to www.nature.com (secure)] The S1 protein of SARS-CoV-2 crosses the blood–brain barrier in mice Now consider what might have happened to the rhesus monkeys: [link to www.biorxiv.org (secure)] SARS-CoV-2 causes brain inflammation and Lewy bodies, a hallmark for Parkinson, after an asymptomatic infection in macaques. As in humans Lewy body formation is an indication for the development of Parkinson’s disease, this data represents a warning for potential long-term neurological effects after SARS-CoV-2 infection. In the Rhesus monkey study, ALL of them got Lewy Bodies after infection. ALL OF THEM. In case you can't be bothered to do the work yourself, have a look at these images. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80388805 The line to look at is the red PrD (prion) line at the top. Original Spike protein when run through PLAAC algo: [link to paste.pics (secure)] Kerala (double mutant) in PLAAC - note about 5x prion-genicity: [link to paste.pics (secure)] NUCLEOCAPSID protein run through PLAAC - note the MAHOOSIVE bump at the start: [link to paste.pics (secure)] You can verify I am right by looking at Tetz & Tetz's preprint here (see page 3, supplememtal plot S1, top-left): [link to www.preprints.org (secure)] SARS-CoV-2 prion-like domains in spike proteins enable higher affinity to ACE2 And the NUCLEOCAPSID protein prion plot appears here, in Nature.com: [link to www.nature.com (secure)] (see the plot on Page 3, top-left.) YOU CAN VERIFY THESE YOURSELF! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80346741 United Kingdom 06/11/2021 02:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am skeptical; however, I know MANY people who have gotten the "vaccine(s)", from all three of the major pharma companies that are producing these. Quoting: Just a guy 79913397 NONE of the well over 100 people I know who submitted to the "vaccine(s)" have had ANY issues other than either a sore arm for a couple days after the jab or flu-like symptoms after the 2nd shot from either Pfizer or Moderna. But then later they were ALL fine. NOBODY I know is having heart issues, NONE are having immune system issues, and ALL are living their lives in a completely normal way. I am not here to argue. I am simply asking --- is it POSSIBLE that these jabs are doing far more good than most here will admit (primarily due to bias)? 1. You do not know 100 people who’ve had the shots. 2. Even if you did, and they’ve only gotten the flu from it, do you seriously believe that negates 100 other people getting injured or killed? Why are your experiences enough to justify it in your head as a good thing and the other 100 people’s experiences ignored by you? 3. None of the jabbed people I know are living their lives in A completely normal way. Most hate those like me who will not take it, most still wear their masks as security blankets, most have not resumed their old lives for constant fear of dying from it. 4. The only ones who have lived their lives as normally as possible this entire time are those who know this is a hoax 5. Given the above, it’s not possible that being enslaved by big pharma and ruled through fear of death has benefited any of those who’ve fallen for it. |