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Looking for auto a/c help
I have a 2003 Chevy Trailblazer LT EXT with front and rear a/c. The last owner said he replaced the compressor, condensor, canister and evaporator in the front. They all look pretty new. Orifice and expansion valve as well. It hasn't worked right since I bought it about 8 months ago. The weather has been tolerable up until now so it's issues are showing. It does have a very slow leak and I do plan on fixing that part soon but here is the issue I'm having:

At first I was getting all kinds of oil in the line on the high side so I drained the compressor of oil and started over with the right amount of oil. Put a good vacuum on it for a few hours and proceeded to fill with r134a. Took six 12oz cans to get it up to 180psi. The air coming out of the vents is only 75 degrees at coldest, which is only 10 degrees cooler than ambient temp. When revving the engine the compressor is blowing the pop-off valve like it's building too much pressure. The high side cuts out at around 190 and cuts back in about 170. I am using a set of Yellow Jacket gauges on a Yellow Jacket manifold which have been calibrated within the last month. I've been turning wrenches for over 35 years but a/c work is not one of my strong suits. Any ideas what the hell is going on with this thing?
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06/12/2021 10:35 PM
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Re: Looking for auto a/c help
Good one. Should see 40 degree drop from outside air. What about the two wires that monitor the unit, that you can override the compressor?
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....by shorting out with a paperclip..
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Good one. Should see 40 degree drop from outside air. What about the two wires that monitor the unit, that you can override the compressor?
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The compressor is cycling. But it's acting like it's over pressuring even though I'm only showing a max of 190. The pop-off valve is definitely engaging.
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06/12/2021 10:49 PM
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Re: Looking for auto a/c help
Could be the low or high pressure sensor bad.
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06/12/2021 11:21 PM
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Re: Looking for auto a/c help
Take it to someone that doesnt have their head up their ass.
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Take it to someone that doesnt have their head up their ass.
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Doesn't exist around here.
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06/12/2021 11:26 PM
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Re: Looking for auto a/c help
R134 SUCKS....the old stuff was better
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06/12/2021 11:27 PM
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Re: Looking for auto a/c help
There ain’t no gas in it mmmmmhmmmmmmmmm
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Re: Looking for auto a/c help
Honest advice take it to an auto forum... You'll only get trolled here.
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06/12/2021 11:31 PM
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Re: Looking for auto a/c help
you have a plugged orfice tube or expansion valve.
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06/12/2021 11:33 PM
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Re: Looking for auto a/c help
thats old af
OP needs a new car
like brand new
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Re: Looking for auto a/c help
You can search how much refrigerant is required for the specific vehicle. Its usually printed on a label under the hood.

General rule of thumb here... 40 on the low, 250 on the high. This is in summertime heat with the engine hot.

Charge with recommended amount. Test drive and check pressures. Add small amounts until you reach the desired cooling.

Sounds like you overfilled. Fix the leak before you even try to charge with the correct amount. You can damage the compressor by overfilling
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Honest advice take it to an auto forum... You'll only get trolled here.
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Yeah plug your Tesla into USB and the car is transported to an auto forum online they work on it and send it back to you.


Oh wait you don’t have a Tesla


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Trailblazer
2004-02 All Eng.; w/o Rear AC – 29.00 Oz. R-134a; 7.50 Oz. PAG-46
All Eng.; w/ Rear AC – 48.00 Oz. R-134a; 8.50 Oz. PAG-46

Your way over full also
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06/12/2021 11:40 PM
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You are trying to fix someone else's mess. No telling what they did. Research and find out if the passages in the evaporator core are large enough to pass any shrapnel.

You need to disassemble and flush the entire system and rebuild, new expansion valve, new compressor, all new seals, etc etc.
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06/12/2021 11:45 PM
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Any crimps in any of the lines?
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06/12/2021 11:51 PM
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The pop off should not go at that low of a pressure. If your reading your high side pressure AFTER the condenser you could have a clogged condenser coil from metal from the previous compressor failure.

The pop off will likely open in more of the 300 psi range
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06/12/2021 11:58 PM

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The pop off should not go at that low of a pressure. If your reading your high side pressure AFTER the condenser you could have a clogged condenser coil from metal from the previous compressor failure.

The pop off will likely open in more of the 300 psi range
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I'm with this dude.
All the oil coming out initially was probably from the grenaded compressor. Grab a new condenser
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06/12/2021 11:59 PM
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Re: Looking for auto a/c help
Tesla’s don’t have these issues



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06/13/2021 12:03 AM
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Re: Looking for auto a/c help
I'd say condenser then. You have fluid, pressure and blow.

Above my pay grade at this point.
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06/13/2021 12:07 AM
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Re: Looking for auto a/c help
R134 SUCKS....the old stuff was better
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You can make an awesome refrigerant out of propane and butane, we were doing that when the climate commies got r12 banned.
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06/13/2021 12:08 AM
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Re: Looking for auto a/c help
Sell everything, buy a Tesla
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06/13/2021 12:28 AM
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Re: Looking for auto a/c help
Fan clutch or electric fan?
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Sell everything, buy a Tesla
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Re: Looking for auto a/c help
R134 SUCKS....the old stuff was better
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You can make an awesome refrigerant out of propane and butane, we were doing that when the climate commies got r12 banned.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72199333


I bought up all I could find for my 87 toy 4x4...glad I did
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06/13/2021 12:32 AM
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Re: Looking for auto a/c help
I have a 2003 Chevy Trailblazer LT EXT with front and rear a/c. The last owner said he replaced the compressor, condensor, canister and evaporator in the front. They all look pretty new. Orifice and expansion valve as well. It hasn't worked right since I bought it about 8 months ago. The weather has been tolerable up until now so it's issues are showing. It does have a very slow leak and I do plan on fixing that part soon but here is the issue I'm having:

At first I was getting all kinds of oil in the line on the high side so I drained the compressor of oil and started over with the right amount of oil. Put a good vacuum on it for a few hours and proceeded to fill with r134a. Took six 12oz cans to get it up to 180psi. The air coming out of the vents is only 75 degrees at coldest, which is only 10 degrees cooler than ambient temp. When revving the engine the compressor is blowing the pop-off valve like it's building too much pressure. The high side cuts out at around 190 and cuts back in about 170. I am using a set of Yellow Jacket gauges on a Yellow Jacket manifold which have been calibrated within the last month. I've been turning wrenches for over 35 years but a/c work is not one of my strong suits. Any ideas what the hell is going on with this thing?
 Quoting: ZOOM OUT


how's the fan situation?

electric fan or fan clutch?

if all that is working well it's possible either the compressor was over or under filled with oil

if that's the case you will need to drain system entirely, remove compressor drain it of oil and manually fill to spec, which is typically around 4 oz but check online for the exact spec

there's also the question of how much oil was manually poured into the dryer and condenser, and was it the correct oil
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Solenoid
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R134 works best at slightly below specified pressure. If you go for the top number or higher, it's warmer. When the girls ride with me, their nipples will cut glass.
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06/13/2021 01:32 AM
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You have metal shrapnel from a blown compressor clogging your lines.
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06/13/2021 01:48 AM
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Re: Looking for auto a/c help
Tesla’s don’t have these issues



cruise
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79654247


Tesla's don't have Carnot cycle air conditioners? Wow, what do they use? A giant peltier cooler?





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