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As civil asset forfeiture surpasses criminal theft FBI now seizing millions from safety deposit boxes without warrants. Who are the real crooks?

 
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As civil asset forfeiture surpasses criminal theft FBI now seizing millions from safety deposit boxes without warrants. Who are the real crooks?
In March of this year, the US Attorney in Los Angeles, California secured an indictment against a secure vault company, alleging the company was engaged in money laundering, drug trafficking, and hiding taxable assets. None of the company's employees or owners were indicted.

FBI agents spent five days turning US Private Vaults upside down. Agents apparently emptied every safety deposit box housed by the business. They did this in complete contradiction of the limits imposed on them by the FBI's own warrant affidavit. Here's Eric Boehm of Reason with some background:

[T]he unsealed warrant authorizing the raid of U.S. Private Vaults granted the FBI permission to seize only the business's computers, money counters, security cameras, and large steel frames that effectively act as bookshelves for the boxes themselves. Per FBI rules, however, the boxes could not be left unsecured in the vault after the raid had been completed, so agents had to take them into custody too.

The FBI could have taken custody of the boxes without opening them and sought warrants for those implicated by the investigation. Instead, the FBI agents emptied the boxes while still on the premises, engaging in dozens of searches not authorized by any warrant.

in apparent direct contradiction of the search warrant's limits and the FBI's own policies.

[T]he FBI is now trying to confiscate $86 million in cash and millions of dollars more in jewelry and other valuables that agents found in 369 of the boxes.

Prosecutors claim the forfeiture is justified because the unnamed box holders were engaged in criminal activity. They have disclosed no evidence to support the allegation.


Beyond the $86 million in cash, the FBI is seeking to confiscate thousands of gold and silver bars, Patek Philippe and Rolex watches, and gem-studded earrings, bracelets and necklaces, many of them in felt or velvet pouches. The FBI also wants to take a box holder’s $1.3 million in poker chips from the Aria casino in Las Vegas.

The items the government claims -- without facts in evidence -- are the result of criminal activity includes unemployed food service worker's life savings: $57,000 he obtained from lawsuit settlements stemming from a car accident in which he suffered a spinal injury and a successful claim against a landlord for chronic housing code violations.

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they're the real racists thieves!
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Hell's Angels motorcycle gang are the police in Hell.
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You read that right more money is stolen from the public by police and federal agents than all the burglaries, robberies,and criminal thefts combined....

This needs addressed and these "legal" crooks need to be prosecuted and neither the left or the right seem to grasp what needs to be done or else they are profiting too much from it to change it.

The only way to fix the law enforcement system is to demilitarize them, end civil asset forfeiture, stop the war on drugs, remove qualified immunity, abolish police unions, fire anyone with domestic abuse charges and make chiefs and captains ranks only through public elections can and jail all the crooks, redcoats, drug king pins, and spouse beaters. Also get rid of internal affairs and have a separate entity provide checks and balances not only when investigating wrong doing but to preform audits and random tests actively. Better training in civil liberties wouldn't hurt either and end chemical deterrents and gasses its not aloud in war per geneva convention it has no place on our streets deployed on citizens. We also need to disband every acronym alphabet boy agency they have no oversight or checks and balances and have impeded on civil right far more times than they have protected them. Everything from the corrupt FBI, CIA, ATF, BLM, EPA, FDA ect gone they exceed the constitutional bounds and restraints on federal government set by the framers and are repugnant to this democratic republic and the will and liberties of the people.

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I thought commanders could order anything.”
"They can order the moon to turn blue, too, but it doesn't happen. Listen, Ender, commanders have just as much authority as you let them have. The more you obey them, the more power they have over you.
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Hell's Angels motorcycle gang are the police in Hell.
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Many are just undercover police read the ohio supreme court proceedings against the packrats and see how ohio outlawed any association of the group on the behalf of the hells angels since the pack rat swap meets refused to pay the hells angels "tax" on their events.
I thought commanders could order anything.”
"They can order the moon to turn blue, too, but it doesn't happen. Listen, Ender, commanders have just as much authority as you let them have. The more you obey them, the more power they have over you.
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they're the real racists thieves!
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That is the truth largest organized crime gang ever.
I thought commanders could order anything.”
"They can order the moon to turn blue, too, but it doesn't happen. Listen, Ender, commanders have just as much authority as you let them have. The more you obey them, the more power they have over you.
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With all the court info coming out implicating the FBI in the January 6th event as the masterminds behind it “and about every terror attack in the last 20+ years” we need to abolish the FBI and prosecute all involved after a full audit and declassification of their files and crimes.
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I can bet anything since this happened in LA California these poor people will never get their money back with how corrupt their system is. Never trust the government or a bank keep valuables hidden close and protected with a firearm bank runs are coming and feds will try to take as much as they can before it happens
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I can bet anything since this happened in LA California these poor people will never get their money back with how corrupt their system is. Never trust the government or a bank keep valuables hidden close and protected with a firearm bank runs are coming and feds will try to take as much as they can before it happens
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Agreed this administration is fast tracking hyper inflation through national debt and currency manipulation. Pull all you can out now invest in physical silver and gold keep it at home secure you compounds we are in for a bumpy ride.
I thought commanders could order anything.”
"They can order the moon to turn blue, too, but it doesn't happen. Listen, Ender, commanders have just as much authority as you let them have. The more you obey them, the more power they have over you.
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Re: As civil asset forfeiture surpasses criminal theft FBI now seizing millions from safety deposit boxes without warrants. Who are the real crooks?
With all the court info coming out implicating the FBI in the January 6th event as the masterminds behind it “and about every terror attack in the last 20+ years” we need to abolish the FBI and prosecute all involved after a full audit and declassification of their files and crimes.
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More and more comes out everyday detailing their involvement they will try to sacrifice one of their pawns to take the blame such as antifa or blm both are clearly influenced, supported, and probably created and financed by them. They tried at first to blame another one of their patsies the prd boys but that seems to be getting debunked. You can bet all this dark money gained by civil asset forfeiture is what is funding these false flags to demonized patriotic americans.
I thought commanders could order anything.”
"They can order the moon to turn blue, too, but it doesn't happen. Listen, Ender, commanders have just as much authority as you let them have. The more you obey them, the more power they have over you.
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Man today is not good for fbi's pr groups i see also its been disclosed that they illegally surveilled 16k+ American citizens illegally someone tell rep. Margorie Taylor Greene whens shes done abolishing the ATF we have another one needing her touch.
I thought commanders could order anything.”
"They can order the moon to turn blue, too, but it doesn't happen. Listen, Ender, commanders have just as much authority as you let them have. The more you obey them, the more power they have over you.
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I had enough green to pin noice this is important to understand how these feds finance these atrocities they commit and try to incite people to commit like burning down the capitol to blame patriots and demonize them as far right extremists.
I thought commanders could order anything.”
"They can order the moon to turn blue, too, but it doesn't happen. Listen, Ender, commanders have just as much authority as you let them have. The more you obey them, the more power they have over you.
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Simple, time to dump the FBI and the CIA both. Best move the states could make.
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Simple, time to dump the FBI and the CIA both. Best move the states could make.
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No doubt they are the true domestic threat to liberty and the great people of this country
I thought commanders could order anything.”
"They can order the moon to turn blue, too, but it doesn't happen. Listen, Ender, commanders have just as much authority as you let them have. The more you obey them, the more power they have over you.
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Re: As civil asset forfeiture surpasses criminal theft FBI now seizing millions from safety deposit boxes without warrants. Who are the real crooks?
they made illegal to own gold or silver during great depression.

meaning they stole ALL of it and treated you like you were the criminal.

standard mindfuck.

I murder you, you are the bad guy

I rape you, because you're bad criminal

i steal your property, because you are bad criminal that doesn't pay property taxes, interest
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bump
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Re: As civil asset forfeiture surpasses criminal theft FBI now seizing millions from safety deposit boxes without warrants. Who are the real crooks?
they made illegal to own gold or silver during great depression.

meaning they stole ALL of it and treated you like you were the criminal.

standard mindfuck.

I murder you, you are the bad guy

I rape you, because you're bad criminal

i steal your property, because you are bad criminal that doesn't pay property taxes, interest
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True but unlike guns you don't have to register or take a background check that will end with you on a list for gold and silver so its easier to hide if they ever try to reenact that. It is time to severely rein in and shrink the federal government back to the constraints of the constitution like the framers intended.
I thought commanders could order anything.”
"They can order the moon to turn blue, too, but it doesn't happen. Listen, Ender, commanders have just as much authority as you let them have. The more you obey them, the more power they have over you.
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Uhmm yahhh I'm just going to confiscate this right here just because I can

Where vax daddy trump to save us
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they made illegal to own gold or silver during great depression.

meaning they stole ALL of it and treated you like you were the criminal.

standard mindfuck.

I murder you, you are the bad guy

I rape you, because you're bad criminal

i steal your property, because you are bad criminal that doesn't pay property taxes, interest
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Just gold. Silver was still legal, as silver coins for general circulation were minted until 1969.
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Uhmm yahhh I'm just going to confiscate this right here just because I can

Where vax daddy trump to save us
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I hope more people wake up and stop voting for the duopoly and go libertarian or something we need a serious change management. One of the confiscations was from an elderly woman of 80 add abuse of the elderly to the long list of crimes theyve committed. "Another US Private Vault's customer (being represented, like the man above, by the Institute for Justice) lost her life savings to the FBI's actions, a total of $80,000 that is obviously important to the 80-year-old woman who presumably wasn't participating in drug dealing and money laundering. Contrary to the warrant and FBI guidelines, agents took everything in her safety deposit box even though they found identifying information as soon as they opened the box. Recordings of the raid show an agent holding her ID up to the camera before proceeding to go through the box, opening sealed envelopes and emptying their contents into another container."
I thought commanders could order anything.”
"They can order the moon to turn blue, too, but it doesn't happen. Listen, Ender, commanders have just as much authority as you let them have. The more you obey them, the more power they have over you.
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Re: As civil asset forfeiture surpasses criminal theft FBI now seizing millions from safety deposit boxes without warrants. Who are the real crooks?
they made illegal to own gold or silver during great depression.

meaning they stole ALL of it and treated you like you were the criminal.

standard mindfuck.

I murder you, you are the bad guy

I rape you, because you're bad criminal

i steal your property, because you are bad criminal that doesn't pay property taxes, interest
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72617519


Just gold. Silver was still legal, as silver coins for general circulation were minted until 1969.
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True true
I thought commanders could order anything.”
"They can order the moon to turn blue, too, but it doesn't happen. Listen, Ender, commanders have just as much authority as you let them have. The more you obey them, the more power they have over you.
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You own nothing. All can be taken.
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FBI agents... did this in complete contradiction of the limits imposed on them by the FBI's own warrant affidavit.
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In March of this year, the US Attorney in Los Angeles, California secured an indictment against a secure vault company, alleging the company was engaged in money laundering, drug trafficking, and hiding taxable assets. None of the company's employees or owners were indicted.

FBI agents spent five days turning US Private Vaults upside down. Agents apparently emptied every safety deposit box housed by the business. They did this in complete contradiction of the limits imposed on them by the FBI's own warrant affidavit. Here's Eric Boehm of Reason with some background:

[T]he unsealed warrant authorizing the raid of U.S. Private Vaults granted the FBI permission to seize only the business's computers, money counters, security cameras, and large steel frames that effectively act as bookshelves for the boxes themselves. Per FBI rules, however, the boxes could not be left unsecured in the vault after the raid had been completed, so agents had to take them into custody too.

The FBI could have taken custody of the boxes without opening them and sought warrants for those implicated by the investigation. Instead, the FBI agents emptied the boxes while still on the premises, engaging in dozens of searches not authorized by any warrant.

in apparent direct contradiction of the search warrant's limits and the FBI's own policies.

[T]he FBI is now trying to confiscate $86 million in cash and millions of dollars more in jewelry and other valuables that agents found in 369 of the boxes.

Prosecutors claim the forfeiture is justified because the unnamed box holders were engaged in criminal activity. They have disclosed no evidence to support the allegation.


Beyond the $86 million in cash, the FBI is seeking to confiscate thousands of gold and silver bars, Patek Philippe and Rolex watches, and gem-studded earrings, bracelets and necklaces, many of them in felt or velvet pouches. The FBI also wants to take a box holder’s $1.3 million in poker chips from the Aria casino in Las Vegas.

The items the government claims -- without facts in evidence -- are the result of criminal activity includes unemployed food service worker's life savings: $57,000 he obtained from lawsuit settlements stemming from a car accident in which he suffered a spinal injury and a successful claim against a landlord for chronic housing code violations.

Read full article here

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Historical Fact... a peoples own government is always that peoples worst enemy.
Kamala Harris is not a Natural Born Citizen. She's illegally running.

Used by the Founders...
Book I of The Law of Nations, Chapter XIX, § 212 (Joseph Chitty numbering) – “Citizens and natives”
reads: 'The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to
its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in
the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by
the children of the citizens
, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all
their rights.' 1758 Emerich de Vattel

Oh' What the Hell, do I look like I want to die in some nursing home one day...
America must have 4 new Constitutional Amendments...
1. Drug Tests and Mental Evaluations on all politicians and judges randomly five times per year.
2. Term Limits for Federal politicians and judges.
3. Mental and health standards for Supreme Court Justices and retirement age set.
4. A 'Star Chamber' of elected Natural Born Citizens (no attorney's) to ivestigate, try, and prosecute the politicians and government employee's as they see fit.

Mandatory death penalty by public hanging is the merciful sentence for pedos and their associates.

Democrats are a WMD, literally.

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You will own nothing and you will be happy.
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Simple, time to dump the FBI and the CIA both. Best move the states could make.
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hesright
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"...Who are the real crooks?..."

As the old saying goes:
"I am from the Government ... and I am here to HELP you!"

The FBI is just "helping" those poor property owners from having to worry about their property anymore. They can now know it is FINALLY in a "Safe Place".
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Why not use an actual FDIC insured safety deposit box at the bank, unless you have a reason to hide valuables anonymously?
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Anyone with half a brain would have moved everything out of those vaults even before the police refused to do anything about the rioting there
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They have to replace all that stimulus money that they sent out by any means necessary








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On the outset, there is no more criminal organization in the US than the FBI.

NSA, CIA are debatable.

FBI is a given.

ATF is the worst of the worst. They make FBI look like saints.

Welcome to the USSA.

Beurocratic entities with no Constitutional authority kicking in your doors and instilling fear.

Hmmmm, did this happen in the past? Oh yeah, ask Stalin and Hitler. It worked great for them.





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