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Guru Vasistha
- May I channel you some, Gurudev?

Isn't there enough writing from me?...

- Yes, but it would be more cool.

Sigh

...

- Where is our beloved Rama?

He is the infinite. (gesturing toward the sky, earth, cosmos)
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The Sun, Suryadev, is said to be Guru Vasistha's brother. He came as a gentle old yogi, so casual in sweet profundity, for how would consider a receiver of the darshan.

Jupiter is Guru.

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The sun is meeting the extreme on this solstice. Simple love is the essence of esoterism.

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I've been reading about "kundalini syndrome" and going through it some myself coming back into more practices. It is said it damages the system with symptoms akin to stress and even trauma. Why?

Especially in the psycho-emotional destruction, I was asking why is this happening?

It doesn't matter what it's called or which religious/spiritual practice is being followed. If cultivating spiritual energy more extensively it will happen to most anyone.

It is for a reconstitution. We see some warning away from it, and I have seen peoples' lives basically wrecked. Maybe the awakening just accelerates the inevitable.

But teachers I have been around do not give much consideration to the difficult aspects, pushing hard to seize the day because life is short. They supplement techniques involving visualization of the body drying up, burning away, and being replaced with a new divine body.
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I think the hardship of spiritual work on the system energetically may in some cases be confused with the idea of external influences opposing it, not that I don't think they exist as well. We may have at least threefold opposition; our own difficulty in purging for reconstitution, potential opposition from discarnate influences, and then that from incarnate influence, which may also involve technology discussed in these circles.
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The major difficulties in spiritual evolution I do not believe are external. We have the three psychic knots (granthis) in the body as well, corresponding to the three qualities and the three bodies.

"Brahma granthi functions in the region of mooladhara [base] chakra. It implies attachment to physical pleasures, material objects and excessive selfishness. It also implies the ensnaring power of tamas - negativity, lethargy and ignorance.

Vishnu granthi operates in the region of anahata [heart] chakra. It is associated with the bondage of emotional attachment and attachment to people and inner psychic visions. It is connected with rajas - the tendency towards passion, ambition and assertiveness.

Rudra granthi functions in the region of ajna [third eye] chakra. It is associated with attachment to siddhis, psychic phenomena and the concept of ourselves as individuals. One must surrender the sense of individual ego and transcend duality to make further spiritual progress."
[link to www.sanjeeva.net]

I'm not sure I agree with the commentary on the Rudra granthi; lovers, as bhaktas, may choose to retain individuality to love.

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^ Well, bhakti needs no justification. I say that above to find an excuse for human love desire. It is a confusing subject because one can project the thought of human love into that of divine love. They do seem to mix, and I have thought of the former as a catalyst for the latter, again, likely more for an excuse to indulge the mind, though I think can be useful in sincere practice. Most anything can be a catalyst, offering it up.

Ignorance sucks. (Well why don't you just be quiet then? Yes, ...)

The unicorn beast thinks the maiden is divine when he can be tamed by her, but she is being used as bait to trap him.

But he still would not lower his ideals about her.

The King would see him free. What work the gurus have on their hands.

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The mountain unseen
Til dislodged by the King's will
Fallen to the sea

(the hidden mountain of karma)
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I said before than since cosmic grace is always available, that in praying for grace, it seems more that I should pray to myself for the grace to act to take it, to meet the oath.

But I did not want to de-emphasize that which is given.

And honestly at times it does not seem so available. But I believe this is limited to conditions of the body.
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The major difficulties in spiritual evolution I do not believe are external. We have the three psychic knots (granthis) in the body as well, corresponding to the three qualities and the three bodies.

"Brahma granthi functions in the region of mooladhara [base] chakra. It implies attachment to physical pleasures, material objects and excessive selfishness. It also implies the ensnaring power of tamas - negativity, lethargy and ignorance.

Vishnu granthi operates in the region of anahata [heart] chakra. It is associated with the bondage of emotional attachment and attachment to people and inner psychic visions. It is connected with rajas - the tendency towards passion, ambition and assertiveness.

Rudra granthi functions in the region of ajna [third eye] chakra. It is associated with attachment to siddhis, psychic phenomena and the concept of ourselves as individuals. One must surrender the sense of individual ego and transcend duality to make further spiritual progress."
[link to www.sanjeeva.net]

I'm not sure I agree with the commentary on the Rudra granthi; lovers, as bhaktas, may choose to retain individuality to love.
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sound a lot like the 'Hungry Ghosts'?hf
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The major difficulties in spiritual evolution I do not believe are external. We have the three psychic knots (granthis) in the body as well, corresponding to the three qualities and the three bodies.

"Brahma granthi functions in the region of mooladhara [base] chakra. It implies attachment to physical pleasures, material objects and excessive selfishness. It also implies the ensnaring power of tamas - negativity, lethargy and ignorance.

Vishnu granthi operates in the region of anahata [heart] chakra. It is associated with the bondage of emotional attachment and attachment to people and inner psychic visions. It is connected with rajas - the tendency towards passion, ambition and assertiveness.

Rudra granthi functions in the region of ajna [third eye] chakra. It is associated with attachment to siddhis, psychic phenomena and the concept of ourselves as individuals. One must surrender the sense of individual ego and transcend duality to make further spiritual progress."
[link to www.sanjeeva.net]

I'm not sure I agree with the commentary on the Rudra granthi; lovers, as bhaktas, may choose to retain individuality to love.
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sound a lot like the 'Hungry Ghosts'?hf
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Yes, it reminds me that in some ways of seeing, everything has consciousness. Everything has life and being, even a name, including those aspects, if that make sense.
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I had not thought of myself as a bhakta; I am more heady. A master I follow is most certainly a bhakta, but systems of Raja yoga include the several branches, so is welcome to those who would work more in mind than able to in heart.

But now I am become more drunk with love. I want to be like Rumi, drinking the love hidden in all creation. I have seen the liberating mantra as a tool of science, but it is most certainly a gem of the bhakta.

Tears of love come so often now, and I have only begun to come back.
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One who walks the sky, the touch from what realm he may be residing overwhelms in bliss nature, one hidden in the hearts of beings, working for their welfare, that one places his hand on the head saying, "Live in bliss!"
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If I may ask ... why?


Why do you do all of that?


Why do you search and what do you search for?
***All in my opinion of course***
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If I may ask ... why?


Why do you do all of that?


Why do you search and what do you search for?
 Quoting: TheFool


The human system reflects the cosmos. The body/mind is a tool beyond knowing.

The purpose is in some way or another, realization, and liberation from repetitive cycles of suffering.

(I edited a lot of the rambling out of this.)

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Guru of the side plank
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The jnani, one on the path of knowledge, must become the bhakta, one on the path of love. The bhakta becomes a jnani.
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Guru of the side plank
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That's cool. I didn't know that.
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sorry inadvertent bump

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If I may ask ... why?


Why do you do all of that?


Why do you search and what do you search for?
 Quoting: TheFool


The human system reflects the cosmos. The body/mind is a tool beyond knowing.

The purpose is in some way or another, realization, and liberation from repetitive cycles of suffering.

(I edited a lot of the rambling out of this.)
 Quoting: syncro


when we gaze into the void, the void gazes back at us.
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If I may ask ... why?


Why do you do all of that?


Why do you search and what do you search for?
 Quoting: TheFool


The human system reflects the cosmos. The body/mind is a tool beyond knowing.


The purpose is in some way or another, realization, and liberation from repetitive cycles of suffering.

(I edited a lot of the rambling out of this.)
 Quoting: syncro


I agree. I just wonder if the way out is to change our personal pains and woes into ... something else? Something where we have power over them and their situations instead of them having power over us.

Sometimes I believe the harder we run from them, the more they surround us. I don't think it goes into seeking it out or surrounding yourself with negative / corrupt people, but somewhere .... in between.


If you could choose like minded people to associate with, other soul travelers, then take anything life throws at you and twist it .... would there be anything left to avoid?

I wonder if it is even possible.

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If I may ask ... why?


Why do you do all of that?


Why do you search and what do you search for?
 Quoting: TheFool


The human system reflects the cosmos. The body/mind is a tool beyond knowing.


The purpose is in some way or another, realization, and liberation from repetitive cycles of suffering.

(I edited a lot of the rambling out of this.)
 Quoting: syncro


I agree. I just wonder if the way out is to change our personal pains and woes into ... something else? Something where we have power over them and their situations instead of them having power over us.

Sometimes I believe the harder we run from them, the more they surround us. I don't think it goes into seeking it out or surrounding yourself with negative / corrupt people, but somewhere .... in between.


If you could choose like minded people to associate with, other soul travelers, then take anything life throws at you and twist it .... would there be anything left to avoid?

I wonder if it is even possible.
 Quoting: TheFool


It makes me think of the hierarchy of spiritual laws, meaning better things work over the lesser. I saw this in the Kybalion and try to use it. The actions of the spiritual path invoke higher laws mitigating those laws beneath them.

"The half-wise, recognizing the comparative unreality of
the Universe, imagine that they may defy its Laws--such
are vain and presumptuous fools, and they are broken against
the rocks and torn asunder by the elements by reason of
their folly. The truly wise, knowing the nature of the Universe,
use Law against laws; the higher against the lower; and by
the Art of Alchemy transmute that which is undesirable into
that which is worthy, and thus triumph. Mastery consists not
in abnormal dreams, visions and fantastic imaginings or
living, but in using the higher forces against the lower--escaping
the pains of the lower planes by vibrating on the higher.
Transmutation, not presumptuous denial, is the weapon of the
Master."--The Kybalion.

"Mind (as well as metals and elements) may be transmuted,
from state to state; degree to degree; condition to condition;
pole to pole; vibration to vibration. True Hermetic Transmutation
is a Mental Art."--The Kybalion.
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Most excellent! I love the kybalion.

...For we are in the mind of the all.
***All in my opinion of course***
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A mental art. I thought of martial arts and the 10,000 kicks. Repetition and long patience.
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I need to make my own food to do more extensive sadhana. I ate out and fell off for a week, also taking some unpleasant confluence.

But the team is back, engines being readied.





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