The Witch's Corner

Ah, so this relates to another thread?

"So you think I am embellishing...

As in when I wrote that "I have studied it in five languages." A fact, and you inferred that meant I was fluent in five languages..."

I inferred nothing, you inferred when you used that statement to elevate your position of authority in the discussion with Z. It's there for all to see.

"Gonna try and say this again, in a different way. I don't understand your last question about the Bible. I have already answered it to the best of my ability. If that answer is not satisfactory it is considered good form to adjust the question.

Can you use dumber words for that question please?"

You'll need to clarify what you don't understand by quoting particular parts of the question. Metaphor? Allegory? Etymological roots? What don't you understand?

You know what I do when I don't know a word? Look it up.
That's what a scholar does, he doesn't just ramble out what he thinks might be an answer that sounds sorta intelligent.

"Talk to a person that has spent the majority of their professional life in a country that doesn't speak English. My average everyday English is really good, but do you ever see me use 'big fancy words'? No, and there is a reason for that."

Again, you're citing issues with language. Yet you were perfectly comfortable in using the statement you did about 5 very unique languages to assert your position of authority on a topic. Which, again, you've not clarified nor actually proven. That there was my point; if you have indeed studied the bible in these 5 languages you'd actually understand what I meant by the differences in metaphor, allegory and how the etymology of the words in these languages can totally change the meaning in translation.

Further to your issue with language; "big fancy words" ? I didn't realize I was using any. In fact I mostly speak in layman's terms. I use very little in the ways of specialized language unless there's no other way to say something.

You said in another thread you have education from institutions of higher learning (the one where you were claiming you wanted to quantify GLP's level of intelligence), university level if I'm not mistaken? It doesn't seem to fit with how you're speaking, but I can't know for sure.

Cherry pick.
Stop your bullshit, it's really bad trolling at best - embarrassing for yourself at worst.

I'm curious. Have any of you guys ever listened to subliminal self help audio or binaural beats? Z, I assume you have because of your interest in Robert Monroe

Binaural beats, yeah.

Very nice Ty.

I will answer slowly.

All of these, I do not understand.

Do you know why? Because you are using them in terms of a book very few people have ever read from beginning to end.

I already said, No, actually it maybe got eaten... "The whole Bible, as a single story, has a very uniform narrative about the Spiritual life."

What metaphor?

There are literally thousands upon thousands.

You must specify one, in order for me to be more specific than, "The Bible's translations are not consistent."

I was intrigued with “Holosync” by Bill Harris of Centerpointe back in the 90’s.

I only recently revisited the subject of Monroe’s “Hemi-Sync” when the CIA story was declassified. Now I’m all in on learning astral travel.

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I have my degree in Seismic Waveform Analysis and it's Impact on the Structural Elements.

Professionally, I will be known for my contributions to analytical psychology, and programming.

Here, there are literally millions of potential combinations of words.

Even the very concept of a 'spell' is built around the power of a word.

I don't understand you so I don't understand the words.


I can tell you the definition, but I haven't used 'metaphor' in terms of the Bible, ever, with an Australian wizard/witch/runelord.

So I have no illusions that I know what you think it means.

I am trying to get you to realize that metaphor for me. Was always used in the context of what God was teaching 'men' through the 'Holy Scriptures'.

As I doubt you are asking me for my understanding of God's interpretation of the entire Bible, I must assume that I don't understand your use of the word.

Wait....

“Seismic Waveform Analysis and it's Impact on the Structural Elements”

“analytical psychology”

“programming”

....wouldn’t those areas of expertise involve “big fancy words”?

(Sorry.... nothing personal. I simply can’t resist provocation).

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I asked a generic question regarding your opinion on the differences you found in each language. Remember that you're the one who stated those 5 languages in leveraging your knowledge of the book (cover to cover I assume, since 5 languages and all).

You just said you don't understand my usage of the term metaphor, then stated that there are thousands upon thousands. Eh?

So you could pick any metaphor or allegorical tale you like with your vast knowledge in many languages. It should be easy enough, you have presented yourself as an authority, so, go for it. I don't mind.

Hell, even "The interpretations sometimes become very different due to language roots" could've been a sufficient answer. Although I would've asked a follow up.

Anyway - you're the 5x Bible scholar, I'm just a lowly student asking for opinion on how the languages colour the meaning differently, or not, if that be the case.

Interesting, you didn't seem to know squat about crystalline structures. *shrug*

Will you? Are you conducting experiments or something? Programming people, or computers? Interesting stuff.
I can program. :)

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Let’s see.... how can I dumb this down for you low-brows...?


“I’m.....tired. I’m ..... going ..... to ..... bed ...... now.”



Verstehen Sie?



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Lol, not talking about a dictionary. Here let me try to draw it out for you, and I just realized this site is crap with asci demos. That will get really complicated fast.

Let's take an example instead: (You like math yes?)

A = B = C This should represent the functional relationship of communication. Where A is one source, C is another source, and B represents the medium. In this case, math itself.

See math is useful for this very point. It is finite. Not fungible (I looked that up btw, and sweet I did remember it correctly).

Now A is used to B = 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
While C is used to B = 2, 3, 4, 5, 6

Eighty percent of the time, they are able to successfully communicate the needed idea. Yet, fundamental theory in relation to memory means that words are as.. fungible.. as memory itself. We can change memory, if you need a reference I would use the mall reference one as the first one. It is very common. However, your usage of 'OBE' should mean you are aware of this, so I move on.

Every time we use a word, we are altering our perception of the word, because we are layering in new memories to associate with it. As these memories accrue (I have to check this word too), they begin to gradually create a mutual understanding of the word. If I were talking to someone from the Ozarks, I would be confident that they would understand me. The best example for this is the AI function of Captcha itself.

What is it that it is doing every time we click on the answers? Changing it's understanding of the word.

Don't be ridiculous.
I've stated clearly I'm asking for your opinion on the differences in metaphor and allegory found when studying the Bible in different languages. I also mentioned etymology, because it is QUITE key in understanding what is meant by words in old texts.

Metaphor is metaphor, allegory is allegory. It doesn't mean anything different to someone else than another. What the meanings of stories containing metaphors and allegorical tales are, well those can be interpreted differently. Especially in different languages.

"I can tell you the definition, but I haven't used 'metaphor' in terms of the Bible, ever, with an Australian wizard/witch/runelord." - You weren't asked to, nor was it inferred you had. Runelord? :D I enjoy this.

Want to know two words you should associate with this part.

Insecure and Projection

Example:

The insecure wizard projected his own dishonest nature about magic, onto someone else.



Do you know who always assumes everyone else is lying? A liar.

It's called projection.

Your continually focusing on one point is called deflecting.

Nah I don't like math really.

Yeah, the meaning of words changes. Especially when the etymology of different languages doesn't share a common root. Luckily we have things called dictionaries and with the internet we have the ability to look at the etymology of words to understand how they've changed.

Just to add in my two cents,

I have studied the Bible. I've read it cover to cover. I'm studied the aramaic, greek, latin and h*brew. I could show you screenshots of my personal library of religious texts. Polycarp. Ignatius. Augustine of Hippo. The Dead Sea scrolls. The Nag hamadi codexes. I've also studied the ancient Babylonian creation myths etc.

Does this make me an expert? Hardly. 30 plus years and I'm still learning and finding new things.

Your title is especially apt right now.
Why am I focusing on one point? Because you still can't answer what was a very simple question regarding your statement.

You said something, I queried you on your knowledge of what you claimed. The result? Angry projection of all your deceptive traits.

Play your troll games elsewhere, maybe you'll find a hag or two to stick your spear in.

Have you found discrepancies in the meaning of any allegorical tales when studying in different languages? Or does it all line up nicely?

Aramaic?
Did it give the location of the Castle of Aughhhhh?

Last Edited by Tý_ on 08/24/2021 02:57 AM

Pretty badass description of yourself. I gotta go. This was fun.

Short answer, yes most definitely but it all comes down to how you translate and interpret. Nothing about the Bible lines up nicely.

No but it did reveal the location of the well of souls....

Snakes. why did it have to be snakes?

*nods*

The same is true of most old texts, I find the same in studying the Edda's and other non Biblical tales. What I have found is that cross referencing and comparing, sometimes simultaneously climbing etymological trees, gets us closer to original meaning of a word or phrase.

I've found some weird stuff at times.
It's most enjoyable though when you have something 'missing' from a certain text or tale that seems to get filled in by another tale in a different language.

lol. Did it make mention of a Butcher and Baker?

When I began this thread, I started to get into the nuts and bolts of theology and biblical etymology but I decided not to. I didn't want this thread to be a religious debate. Which is what it would turn into. An endless religious debate.

I know what I know and I left it at that. Besides, you aren't going to change the minds of hardcore believers and to that point, it isn't my job to change minds. That is not what this thread is for.

When it comes right down to it, you will believe what you want and deny the rest. Logic and reason doesn't enter into it.

And candlestick makers...