Discussion: Star Trek Transporters , souls and consciousness

star trek was sci-fi, not a documentary

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No shit Sherlock .....

Glad YOU liked it. Meanwhile, asshat signed in, whoever he is and...
well see for yourself...

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:dawn27: :butthurt2:

These people are stupid.
And a little bit more than
slightly touchy.

:wwz1: :Strzok:

One soul can occupy one specific body in specific time and space. You can figure out what happens when body is deleted from somewhere and copied into somewhere else.

Taxman would't be happy..

I have no clue what yer on about buddy … completely lost on me 🤣

I believe I am sentient because when a random thought pops into my head I can choose to accept it or reject it.

Maybe that random thought was somehow placed into my head by someone else...but the ability to accept or reject that thought is mine all mine! I decide that based on my own past experiences and my own code of ethics.

Cogito ergo sum!

- MC

"Star Trek: The Next Generation" had an episode where the audience sees that people in transit remain conscious and can even observe the stream of the transporter all around them.

In the story there was some kind of entity inside the stream and it preyed on persons when they were transported. It could be seen approaching by the victim and could only harm people in transit.

Star Trek.....
It’s not Science. But it is fiction.

Fuckin tards.

What about fields? Morphogenetic fields...?

Can they be simply “replaced” with a similar field...?

Does the field yield the particle or does the particle yield the field...?




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Remember when the transporter malfunctioned & made 2 will rikers?

Did they both have a soul? Did neither have a soul?

- MC

But what if that was part of a sub routine to make people more at ease with the fact they were performing transporter death by creating an illusion of being consciousness? What would appear instant to the user could infact take seconds in that gap they would cease to be.

I think i would be happy with portal tech , step half way in then you know your connected .

Thought experiment with two Rikers and thus no soul.

Get outta my thread , dickus waddus .

Go on ....

Is there such a thing as random though ? All thoughts surely are brought about by some input ? I Bet your thinking of a naked pink elephant riding a bycle

Ive tried, but all my random thoughts are led from somewhere ...

That's not entirely accurate. Some of the names, dates,
events, and locations have been changed.
To protect the timeline.

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But weren't they simply moving matter from one spot really really fast? There were distance limitations on them .. why?



Have you ever considered how fast our solar system is moving through the universe right now?


Does that mean we are soulless ... simply because we are moving fast? Don't you think that if we have a soul (way beyond simple evolution or simply using evolution as a tool) someone would have planned for ... speed?


I don't see how their transporter would destroy the interface the soul uses for our vessels.

Short story was written about this in the 1950s. I read it as a kid. Cant remember the name of the book or author. A woman wrote it. Losing your soul in a transporter.

Consciousness is based on quantum effects and entanglements.

Sub atomic.

Energetic.

OK, starting here with quantum physics, years and years ago, watched a documentary on how everything is reformed, disappears and recreated, with each change. And change occurs in nano seconds. But its also all recorded like snapshots, but there is no time so its non linear snapshots, however everything is recreated as it should be. But mind/consciousness could make changes in this, this could also lead to law of affinity/attraction or quantum healing.

And in between those nano seconds, your soul or consciousness isn't being reformatted. You don't notice its so fast. However, the thing is, people do get checkups and missing time, and so sometimes those spaces between the nano seconds could be utilized by higher ups who don't let you keep your memories. But I'm certain everyone has had enlightening moments inbetween shifts like that that happen all the time.

Tom Bearden's book, excalibur one I think, with a huge bibliography at the back citing the enormous amounts of studies done throughout the last century that were reproduced often, therefore more substantiated.

This isn't tangible, the universe. And our Consciousness interacts with every single plane of existence even time. Its more of a group shared reality, so there is a shared platform, apparently with some rules but we can heal and affect things, some are more gifted than others with this, probably everyone diversified with talents to nudge others, wake them up, progress people forward.



That is the best background for this:


You are not your body. I remember coming in as an adult, kind of like a light beam or shooting star, but mature had some purpose, then rosy glow of a snug drum like womb. And I remember my childhood from about 2 weeks on, all the highlight moments.

So when the wave/particle, your body, disintegrates and reforms, you don't do that with it. You're having an OBE, out of body experience. If its very fast, you're naturally anchored to your body and would go back like in NDE's do.



But there is a problem, at least here in dangerous realms, I don't think its fantastic idea.

As a background mechanism it already happens to us all the time and light is crystaline harddrive technology almost and we're preserved in snapshots.


But I also worry that technically your artificial disintegration in this lower realm where no one knows, unlike being filled in and therefore off the hook and in control on higher realms, could almost be considered suicide or death as its willful, which means it may not be you in the body, but someone else jumped in and took your spot.

That may not be possible but I'm not taking that chance.



To me, opening a portal and walking through, or flying through, is the safest from a higher tech perspective.

Last Edited by Sungaze_At_Dawn on 06/25/2021 08:43 PM

spiritual technology

give the grumpy old grey a taste of Earth life

I’ve had many an out of body deal where my “soul” left me and hung out top corner of the room.

It’s not pleasant losing your soul, in fact it’s terrifying but that a different subject.

My point is that my “soul” came back into my head. And made me whole again.

Now if I was transponder up into a ship I have no doubt my “soul “ would follow and inhabit my restructured body.

The body that is dematerialized and rematerialized is simply a vessel - it is not YOU! For that matter, the body you have today is a totally different body than you had when you were a child or even 10 years ago - yet you are still YOU!

Today you drive a Ford, yesterday you drove a Ferrari, and the day before that you drove a VW. Which car are you? The Ford, the Ferrari, or the VW?

You are the driver of the vessel or vehicle, you are not the vehicle itself!

I've got a female relative who I witnessed levitating 6 inches in the air in the lotus position above the living room sofa and plonk back down upon realising she had done it! I have also witnessed a coin materialise drop out of thin air and hit her on the knee.

Continuity, is the key. Like the ship of Theseus the ship was replaced bit by bit so was aware of bits being replaced bit by bit so it was the same ship. But if that ship was suddenly replaced as a whole then it wouldn’t be the same ship. It would be A copy of the original, thus not the same ship.

Is this not the same as a transporter?


If i had my consiouness And could validate through the process that I didn’t die or still aware I knew me was still me on the other side.