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I think I just figured something out... Remember cash for clunkers? | |
| Miller_The_Bastard_Cat Offer Upgrade  User ID: 21209616  United States06/28/2021 07:11 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 12 years ago, Obama announced a program to jump start our economy, and get people into new cars... New cars with engine management systems built into the radios, that can be remotely shut off! This is from 2009: [link to abcnews.go.com (secure)] And the old cars, that can't be remotely turned off, got crushed. In fact, ALL the parts, of the cars turned in, had to be destroyed! The engines drained of oil, coolant drained, and they ran the engines full throttle until they blew up. They wanted to get rid of the vehicles that they couldn't turn off... When the time is right, and all the Pieces are in place, they're gonna flip a switch, and nobody's going anywhere... They thought of everything!  |
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| Whiskey*Tango User ID: 12764358 United States06/28/2021 07:23 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 12 years ago, Obama announced a program to jump start our economy, and get people into new cars... New cars with engine management systems built into the radios, that can be remotely shut off! Quoting: Miller_The_Bastard_Cat This is from 2009: [link to abcnews.go.com (secure)] And the old cars, that can't be remotely turned off, got crushed. In fact, ALL the parts, of the cars turned in, had to be destroyed! The engines drained of oil, coolant drained, and they ran the engines full throttle until they blew up. They wanted to get rid of the vehicles that they couldn't turn off... When the time is right, and all the Pieces are in place, they're gonna flip a switch, and nobody's going anywhere... They thought of everything! My 94 firebird, 1985 c10, and my 1979 K10 will be worth a fortune. |
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| The Daddylorian User ID: 78450705  France06/28/2021 07:38 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hmmmmm... You might be onto something with this. Also could be they were trying to get rid of vehicles that could survive an EMP attack. Quite interesting. Peace is a lie, there is only passion. Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken. The Force shall free me. Or something |
| Miller_The_Bastard_Cat (OP) User ID: 21209616 United States06/28/2021 07:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hmmmmm... Quoting: The Daddylorian You might be onto something with this. Also could be they were trying to get rid of vehicles that could survive an EMP attack. Quite interesting. I'm wondering if this isn't a clue as to how they plan on keeping People who plan on fighting, from mobilizing. Or people from fleeing once they start rounding people up... Holy crap, that's it isn't it? To keep people from fleeing.  |
| The Daddylorian User ID: 78450705 France06/28/2021 07:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hmmmmm... Quoting: The Daddylorian You might be onto something with this. Also could be they were trying to get rid of vehicles that could survive an EMP attack. Quite interesting. I'm wondering if this isn't a clue as to how they plan on keeping People who plan on fighting, from mobilizing. Or people from fleeing once they start rounding people up... Holy crap, that's it isn't it? To keep people from fleeing. Yeah could very well be. Either way I think you're onto something. Peace is a lie, there is only passion. Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken. The Force shall free me. Or something |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78955907 United States06/28/2021 07:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All? They got like 5% of pre 2005 cars off the road. The plan didn't work otherwise they'd still be doing the program. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73960537 They didn't even offer to buy 95% of my fleet. Guess I'll have plenty of cars for sale that can't be shut down remotely. For the right price of course. |
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Bodiless Senior Forum Moderator 06/28/2021 08:00 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP that makes sense to me. I always wondered about it myself, the purpose. It did seem odd to me why they did that. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31851978 To induce people to take on consumer debt. They later Pd income tax on the loan + plus interest Suckers! “We have assembled the most extensive and inclusive Voter Fraud Organization in the history of America”—Joe “SippyCup” Biden Joe Biden will never be the man Michelle Obama is The worst thing about dying is that you become a democratic voter for eternity |
| Miller_The_Bastard_Cat (OP) User ID: 21209616 United States06/28/2021 08:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All? They got like 5% of pre 2005 cars off the road. The plan didn't work otherwise they'd still be doing the program. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73960537 They didn't even offer to buy 95% of my fleet. Guess I'll have plenty of cars for sale that can't be shut down remotely. For the right price of course. No, the cars that were traded in went right to the crusher! The engines destroyed, and absolutely NO PARTS could be taken off, before the body was crushed... it was strict. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78955907 United States06/28/2021 08:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All? They got like 5% of pre 2005 cars off the road. The plan didn't work otherwise they'd still be doing the program. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73960537 They didn't even offer to buy 95% of my fleet. Guess I'll have plenty of cars for sale that can't be shut down remotely. For the right price of course. No, the cars that were traded in went right to the crusher! The engines destroyed, and absolutely NO PARTS could be taken off, before the body was crushed... it was strict. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] I think you missed my point.  Mine did not. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76883161  Canada06/28/2021 08:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 12 years ago, Obama announced a program to jump start our economy, and get people into new cars... New cars with engine management systems built into the radios, that can be remotely shut off! Quoting: Miller_The_Bastard_Cat This is from 2009: [link to abcnews.go.com (secure)] And the old cars, that can't be remotely turned off, got crushed. In fact, ALL the parts, of the cars turned in, had to be destroyed! The engines drained of oil, coolant drained, and they ran the engines full throttle until they blew up. They wanted to get rid of the vehicles that they couldn't turn off... When the time is right, and all the Pieces are in place, they're gonna flip a switch, and nobody's going anywhere... They thought of everything! You have waaaaaayyyyyyyyyyy too much time on your hands. Invest this misspent time on investing. I think you'll do well. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72237694 United Kingdom06/28/2021 08:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All? They got like 5% of pre 2005 cars off the road. The plan didn't work otherwise they'd still be doing the program. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73960537 They didn't even offer to buy 95% of my fleet. Guess I'll have plenty of cars for sale that can't be shut down remotely. For the right price of course. No, the cars that were traded in went right to the crusher! The engines destroyed, and absolutely NO PARTS could be taken off, before the body was crushed... it was strict. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] that makes no sense. why would they destroy an engine they're about to crush in a car. you're just making it up. |
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| Miller_The_Bastard_Cat (OP) User ID: 21209616 United States06/28/2021 08:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | old cars were not breaking often enough. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72237694 you can't just switch off a modern car either. it may be possible with some. but also easily circumvented too. The engine management system is connected to the radio now. And yes, they can shut the car engine off, Onstar had complete control of your car 10 years ago. In fact several car chases where ended when Onstar disabled the vehicles during the chases. [link to www.nbcnews.com (secure)] |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79104722 United States06/28/2021 08:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All modern vehicles can be hacked. Remotely controlled, made to crash or be shut down. All with a smartphone ap. It's all control. No thanks. Quoting: Icey no they can't. it's nonsense. some vehicles have remote access, only some and you can circumvent that. you can't circumvent it. it's built into the engine management system you would need to be a computer programmer and completely bypass the computer perhaps if you were a genius computer programmer yes, other than that, no |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72237694 United Kingdom06/28/2021 08:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | old cars were not breaking often enough. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72237694 you can't just switch off a modern car either. it may be possible with some. but also easily circumvented too. The engine management system is connected to the radio now. And yes, they can shut the car engine off, Onstar had complete control of your car 10 years ago. In fact several car chases where ended when Onstar disabled the vehicles during the chases. [link to www.nbcnews.com (secure)] i understand this technology perfectly. electronics, ecu's, packet data etc. im telling you the ability to remotely switch off a car is not in most vehicles at all. it would be ovbious to those of us hacking the ecu's there maybe telemetry data sending back to the manufacturer using radio waves. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72237694 United Kingdom06/28/2021 08:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All modern vehicles can be hacked. Remotely controlled, made to crash or be shut down. All with a smartphone ap. It's all control. No thanks. Quoting: Icey no they can't. it's nonsense. some vehicles have remote access, only some and you can circumvent that. you can't circumvent it. it's built into the engine management system you would need to be a computer programmer and completely bypass the computer perhaps if you were a genius computer programmer yes, other than that, no it can easily be circumvented. i was software and hardware patching immobilizers out of ecu's decades ago. i could build you an ecu off the top of my head. this is usual scare tactics. |
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| Miller_The_Bastard_Cat (OP) User ID: 21209616 United States06/28/2021 08:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | old cars were not breaking often enough. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72237694 you can't just switch off a modern car either. it may be possible with some. but also easily circumvented too. The engine management system is connected to the radio now. And yes, they can shut the car engine off, Onstar had complete control of your car 10 years ago. In fact several car chases where ended when Onstar disabled the vehicles during the chases. [link to www.nbcnews.com (secure)] i understand this technology perfectly. electronics, ecu's, packet data etc. im telling you the ability to remotely switch off a car is not in most vehicles at all. it would be ovbious to those of us hacking the ecu's there maybe telemetry data sending back to the manufacturer using radio waves. If they could do it 10 years ago, They can most certainly do it now... Especially since we're about to fall to Communism. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72237694 United Kingdom06/28/2021 08:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | old cars were not breaking often enough. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72237694 you can't just switch off a modern car either. it may be possible with some. but also easily circumvented too. The engine management system is connected to the radio now. And yes, they can shut the car engine off, Onstar had complete control of your car 10 years ago. In fact several car chases where ended when Onstar disabled the vehicles during the chases. [link to www.nbcnews.com (secure)] i understand this technology perfectly. electronics, ecu's, packet data etc. im telling you the ability to remotely switch off a car is not in most vehicles at all. it would be ovbious to those of us hacking the ecu's there maybe telemetry data sending back to the manufacturer using radio waves. If they could do it 10 years ago, They can most certainly do it now... Especially since we're about to fall to Communism. there are definitely some cars that can do it, vw/audi/bmw/mazda and ford. but there are plenty of others that don't even have the ability. |
