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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79104722 ![]() 06/28/2021 08:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All modern vehicles can be hacked. Remotely controlled, made to crash or be shut down. All with a smartphone ap. It's all control. No thanks. Quoting: Icey no they can't. it's nonsense. some vehicles have remote access, only some and you can circumvent that. you can't circumvent it. it's built into the engine management system you would need to be a computer programmer and completely bypass the computer perhaps if you were a genius computer programmer yes, other than that, no it can easily be circumvented. i was software and hardware patching immobilizers out of ecu's decades ago. i could build you an ecu off the top of my head. this is usual scare tactics. ![]() |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79104722 ![]() 06/28/2021 08:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | old cars were not breaking often enough. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72237694 you can't just switch off a modern car either. it may be possible with some. but also easily circumvented too. The engine management system is connected to the radio now. And yes, they can shut the car engine off, Onstar had complete control of your car 10 years ago. In fact several car chases where ended when Onstar disabled the vehicles during the chases. [link to www.nbcnews.com (secure)] i understand this technology perfectly. electronics, ecu's, packet data etc. im telling you the ability to remotely switch off a car is not in most vehicles at all. it would be ovbious to those of us hacking the ecu's there maybe telemetry data sending back to the manufacturer using radio waves. it's the manufacturer's who have the power to shut off these cars it's not hard, send a signal and the pcu is bricked like i said if you are a genius computer programmer you might be able to by pass it but it would be very hard |
Icey User ID: 77119763 ![]() 06/28/2021 08:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | old cars were not breaking often enough. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72237694 you can't just switch off a modern car either. it may be possible with some. but also easily circumvented too. The engine management system is connected to the radio now. And yes, they can shut the car engine off, Onstar had complete control of your car 10 years ago. In fact several car chases where ended when Onstar disabled the vehicles during the chases. [link to www.nbcnews.com (secure)] i understand this technology perfectly. electronics, ecu's, packet data etc. im telling you the ability to remotely switch off a car is not in most vehicles at all. it would be ovbious to those of us hacking the ecu's there maybe telemetry data sending back to the manufacturer using radio waves. If they could do it 10 years ago, They can most certainly do it now... Especially since we're about to fall to Communism. Every single new car is hackable. Every one. I am SNOWIE. WELCOME TO THE NEW ICE AGE. TRY NOT TO STARVE. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79104722 ![]() 06/28/2021 08:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i have thought about this scenario as well! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80541531 there was surely something nefarious regarding the whole thing. :thiss: in modern cars the car actually tells you exactly when the speed limit changes and people think they can't remotely shut off your car at the push of a button ![]() |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79667372 ![]() 06/28/2021 08:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 12 years ago, Obama announced a program to jump start our economy, and get people into new cars... New cars with engine management systems built into the radios, that can be remotely shut off! Quoting: Miller_The_Bastard_Cat This is from 2009: [link to abcnews.go.com (secure)] And the old cars, that can't be remotely turned off, got crushed. In fact, ALL the parts, of the cars turned in, had to be destroyed! The engines drained of oil, coolant drained, and they ran the engines full throttle until they blew up. They wanted to get rid of the vehicles that they couldn't turn off... When the time is right, and all the Pieces are in place, they're gonna flip a switch, and nobody's going anywhere... They thought of everything! ![]() they forgot rope hangs them. |
Anonymous Template User ID: 69228605 ![]() 06/28/2021 08:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What;s depressing is that you think you figured this out, we've known this since it was happening, obummski was a piece of ivy coated dung. He ruined the USA motor pool. DEATH TO TRAITORS WHO RUIN OUR GEAR FUCK THE DMV OP CATCH THE FUCK UP Every car is an eggcar piece of shit. When did we allow the wind and over paid engineers to design our cars? FUCK THEM BOTH. Electric cars are another monorail fleecing the people. Try heating your electric car in bad conditions while the enemy drive a russian mpv. Fuck man, I am gonna install a wood stove in the back of my classic Suburban, because you people are gonna kill off everything good with your stupidity, not you OP but whatever took you 13 years to make this thread, shit's gone down since then OP |
Miller_The_Bastard_Cat (OP) User ID: 21209616 ![]() 06/28/2021 08:36 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What;s depressing is that you think you figured this out, we've known this since it was happening, obummski was a piece of ivy coated dung. Quoting: Anonymous Template 69228605 He ruined the USA motor pool. DEATH TO TRAITORS WHO RUIN OUR GEAR FUCK THE DMV OP CATCH THE FUCK UP Every car is an eggcar piece of shit. When did we allow the wind and over paid engineers to design our cars? FUCK THEM BOTH. Electric cars are another monorail fleecing the people. Try heating your electric car in bad conditions while the enemy drive a russian mpv. Fuck man, I am gonna install a wood stove in the back of my classic Suburban, because you people are gonna kill off everything good with your stupidity, not you OP but whatever took you 13 years to make this thread, shit's gone down since then OP I believe you can turn that wood stove into a Wood gasifier... Run that "350 4bbl" on wood gas. |
Miller_The_Bastard_Cat (OP) User ID: 21209616 ![]() 06/28/2021 08:50 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All? They got like 5% of pre 2005 cars off the road. The plan didn't work otherwise they'd still be doing the program. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73960537 They didn't even offer to buy 95% of my fleet. Guess I'll have plenty of cars for sale that can't be shut down remotely. For the right price of course. No, the cars that were traded in went right to the crusher! The engines destroyed, and absolutely NO PARTS could be taken off, before the body was crushed... it was strict. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] that makes no sense. why would they destroy an engine they're about to crush in a car. you're just making it up. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Click the link... Engines go boom!!! Cats don't make shit up. ![]() |
Icey User ID: 77119763 ![]() 06/28/2021 08:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What;s depressing is that you think you figured this out, we've known this since it was happening, obummski was a piece of ivy coated dung. Quoting: Anonymous Template 69228605 He ruined the USA motor pool. DEATH TO TRAITORS WHO RUIN OUR GEAR FUCK THE DMV OP CATCH THE FUCK UP Every car is an eggcar piece of shit. When did we allow the wind and over paid engineers to design our cars? FUCK THEM BOTH. Electric cars are another monorail fleecing the people. Try heating your electric car in bad conditions while the enemy drive a russian mpv. Fuck man, I am gonna install a wood stove in the back of my classic Suburban, because you people are gonna kill off everything good with your stupidity, not you OP but whatever took you 13 years to make this thread, shit's gone down since then OP I believe you can turn that wood stove into a Wood gasifier... Run that "350 4bbl" on wood gas. I am SNOWIE. WELCOME TO THE NEW ICE AGE. TRY NOT TO STARVE. |
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Miller_The_Bastard_Cat (OP) User ID: 21209616 ![]() 06/28/2021 09:15 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As a Machinist, I love innovation. If you could make this into a smaller package, and easier for the average guy/or Gal/Or the other 56 genders... You'd be set for life. Fuel cells are another game changer... you wanna be rich, figure out how to turn cat Sh!t, into a fuel for Space Travel. ![]() |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76084586 ![]() 06/28/2021 09:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hmmmmm... Quoting: The Daddylorian You might be onto something with this. Also could be they were trying to get rid of vehicles that could survive an EMP attack. Quite interesting. I'm wondering if this isn't a clue as to how they plan on keeping People who plan on fighting, from mobilizing. Or people from fleeing once they start rounding people up... Holy crap, that's it isn't it? To keep people from fleeing. ![]() \you can't flee the city if an "emp" shuts your car off. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80525231 ![]() 06/28/2021 09:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All? They got like 5% of pre 2005 cars off the road. The plan didn't work otherwise they'd still be doing the program. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73960537 They didn't even offer to buy 95% of my fleet. Guess I'll have plenty of cars for sale that can't be shut down remotely. For the right price of course. No, the cars that were traded in went right to the crusher! The engines destroyed, and absolutely NO PARTS could be taken off, before the body was crushed... it was strict. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] that makes no sense. why would they destroy an engine they're about to crush in a car. you're just making it up. He's not making it up, and it makes no sense to rational people. It was the law and it was criminal. Those who wrote and passed it should be in jail. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80525231 ![]() 06/28/2021 09:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Miller_The_Bastard_Cat The engine management system is connected to the radio now. And yes, they can shut the car engine off, Onstar had complete control of your car 10 years ago. In fact several car chases where ended when Onstar disabled the vehicles during the chases. [link to www.nbcnews.com (secure)] i understand this technology perfectly. electronics, ecu's, packet data etc. im telling you the ability to remotely switch off a car is not in most vehicles at all. it would be ovbious to those of us hacking the ecu's there maybe telemetry data sending back to the manufacturer using radio waves. If they could do it 10 years ago, They can most certainly do it now... Especially since we're about to fall to Communism. Every single new car is hackable. Every one. You need to hack and secure it before someone else does! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75243590 ![]() 06/28/2021 09:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 12 years ago, Obama announced a program to jump start our economy, and get people into new cars... New cars with engine management systems built into the radios, that can be remotely shut off! Quoting: Miller_The_Bastard_Cat This is from 2009: [link to abcnews.go.com (secure)] And the old cars, that can't be remotely turned off, got crushed. In fact, ALL the parts, of the cars turned in, had to be destroyed! The engines drained of oil, coolant drained, and they ran the engines full throttle until they blew up. They wanted to get rid of the vehicles that they couldn't turn off... When the time is right, and all the Pieces are in place, they're gonna flip a switch, and nobody's going anywhere... They thought of everything! ![]() That is why it happened. Not long ago either. No spare parts, they tried to get rid of all the free running vehicles. Now they can turn off most remotely using starlink (MuskBeam) ![]() |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79335821 ![]() 06/28/2021 09:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72237694 i understand this technology perfectly. electronics, ecu's, packet data etc. im telling you the ability to remotely switch off a car is not in most vehicles at all. it would be ovbious to those of us hacking the ecu's there maybe telemetry data sending back to the manufacturer using radio waves. If they could do it 10 years ago, They can most certainly do it now... Especially since we're about to fall to Communism. Every single new car is hackable. Every one. You need to hack and secure it before someone else does! I already studied mine. I bought a separate remote circuit that can turn on anything with an antenna for the few seconds it is needed to unlock and start, then shut it off. If I dont do that they are going to shut it off the day the warranty goes out. They already did. Two months early. I work a political job and "they" hate me and damn well WILL brick the car if possible. Fortunately they gave me a good warning by bricking it 2 months before the warranty was up. Phone call went like: "Unbrick this NOW or you're paying for a warranty tow AND getting it working again. five minutes later, like magic it worked again. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80494858 06/28/2021 09:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 12 years ago, Obama announced a program to jump start our economy, and get people into new cars... New cars with engine management systems built into the radios, that can be remotely shut off! Quoting: Miller_The_Bastard_Cat This is from 2009: [link to abcnews.go.com (secure)] And the old cars, that can't be remotely turned off, got crushed. In fact, ALL the parts, of the cars turned in, had to be destroyed! The engines drained of oil, coolant drained, and they ran the engines full throttle until they blew up. They wanted to get rid of the vehicles that they couldn't turn off... When the time is right, and all the Pieces are in place, they're gonna flip a switch, and nobody's going anywhere... They thought of everything! ![]() I have a bunch of classic cars. I'll be fine. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 52458138 ![]() 06/28/2021 09:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | old cars were not breaking often enough. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72237694 you can't just switch off a modern car either. it may be possible with some. but also easily circumvented too. The engine management system is connected to the radio now. And yes, they can shut the car engine off, Onstar had complete control of your car 10 years ago. In fact several car chases where ended when Onstar disabled the vehicles during the chases. [link to www.nbcnews.com (secure)] imo, they wanted big engines that could out run the cops in chases off the road. there is easier ways of stopping travel or sectioning off areas. i-40 that i know of has cables that when i had a flat i noticed are insulitated where the metal poles go in the ground, would make a fine electric fence. not sure if that is with intent or if they are put in the ground like they are for another reason. |
Patagonians User ID: 64646640 ![]() 06/28/2021 09:46 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There was a thread a couple of years ago that the UK was recalling and taking old Range Rovers all over the place. Mmmmm... And when he gets to Heaven, to Saint Peter he will tell: "Just another soldier reporting, Sir. Ive served my time in Hell" |
Miller_The_Bastard_Cat (OP) User ID: 21209616 ![]() 06/28/2021 09:50 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 12 years ago, Obama announced a program to jump start our economy, and get people into new cars... New cars with engine management systems built into the radios, that can be remotely shut off! Quoting: Miller_The_Bastard_Cat This is from 2009: [link to abcnews.go.com (secure)] And the old cars, that can't be remotely turned off, got crushed. In fact, ALL the parts, of the cars turned in, had to be destroyed! The engines drained of oil, coolant drained, and they ran the engines full throttle until they blew up. They wanted to get rid of the vehicles that they couldn't turn off... When the time is right, and all the Pieces are in place, they're gonna flip a switch, and nobody's going anywhere... They thought of everything! ![]() I have a bunch of classic cars. I'll be fine. ...Until they march up to your door. When this goes down, your gonna need a place to go to, and... I just thought of something else, when they flip the switch, ALL the roads will be blocked by dead cars... holy crap. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80494981 ![]() 06/28/2021 10:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 12 years ago, Obama announced a program to jump start our economy, and get people into new cars... New cars with engine management systems built into the radios, that can be remotely shut off! Quoting: Miller_The_Bastard_Cat This is from 2009: [link to abcnews.go.com (secure)] And the old cars, that can't be remotely turned off, got crushed. In fact, ALL the parts, of the cars turned in, had to be destroyed! The engines drained of oil, coolant drained, and they ran the engines full throttle until they blew up. They wanted to get rid of the vehicles that they couldn't turn off... When the time is right, and all the Pieces are in place, they're gonna flip a switch, and nobody's going anywhere... They thought of everything! ![]() According to articles posted at the time, they poured glass in engines so they could not be reused.? |
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