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Although many people consider it a democracy, the United States is actually a constitutional republic.

 
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Although many people consider it a democracy, the United States is actually a constitutional republic.
A constitutional republic is a type of government in which the officials are elected by the people. The republic must govern according to the laws of the constitution, and its actions are subject to judicial review. Although many people consider it a democracy, the United States is actually a constitutional republic.
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When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar. You are only telling the world that you fear what he might say. Quoting: CountryWise

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Re: Although many people consider it a democracy, the United States is actually a constitutional republic.
and how do you vote for these people then?
MAGIC BEANS?
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Re: Although many people consider it a democracy, the United States is actually a constitutional republic.
A constitutional republic is a type of government in which the officials are elected by the people. The republic must govern according to the laws of the constitution, and its actions are subject to judicial review. Although many people consider it a democracy, the United States is actually a constitutional republic.
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The squirrels and I love you!

You are 100% correct

Also a Democracy is "Mob Rule"

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The left is forever trying to make our Great Republic a socialist democracy.

Never gonna happen.
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Re: Although many people consider it a democracy, the United States is actually a constitutional republic.
and how do you vote for these people then?
MAGIC BEANS?
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... I could be nasty and ask you if you can read ... but here ...
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... "the officials are ELECTED by the people" ...
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Fools and the dead don't change their minds. Fools won't and the dead can't.

When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar. You are only telling the world that you fear what he might say. Quoting: CountryWise

Amos 5:13 - Therefore at such a time the prudent person keeps silent, for it is an evil time.
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Re: Although many people consider it a democracy, the United States is actually a constitutional republic.
The squirrels and I love you!

You are 100% correct

Also a Democracy is "Mob Rule"

5* and bump
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... and THIS is why the founders REJECTED a democracy! ...
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Fools and the dead don't change their minds. Fools won't and the dead can't.

When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar. You are only telling the world that you fear what he might say. Quoting: CountryWise

Amos 5:13 - Therefore at such a time the prudent person keeps silent, for it is an evil time.
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Re: Although many people consider it a democracy, the United States is actually a constitutional republic.
Correct. It is, um, was a republic.
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The squirrels and I love you!

You are 100% correct

Also a Democracy is "Mob Rule"

5* and bump
 Quoting: supporter

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... and THIS is why the founders REJECTED a democracy! ...
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EXACTLY!
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Re: Although many people consider it a democracy, the United States is actually a constitutional republic.
It was a constitutional republic until 1933.

Then it went bankrupt, and they officially changed it into a corporation.

They didn't bother to tell the citizenry.
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Re: Although many people consider it a democracy, the United States is actually a constitutional republic.
A constitutional republic is a type of government in which the officials are elected by the people. The republic must govern according to the laws of the constitution, and its actions are subject to judicial review. Although many people consider it a democracy, the United States is actually a constitutional republic.
 Quoting: wisconsin


oh shit stop the presses sherlock!

wow what breaking news you got there

did you just learn this yourself and thought no one else knew this FACT?
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and how do you vote for these people then?
MAGIC BEANS?
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A Constitutional Republic with LIMITED democratic principles.
There's your lesson for today.
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Re: Although many people consider it a democracy, the United States is actually a constitutional republic.
A constitutional republic is a type of government in which the officials are elected by the people. The republic must govern according to the laws of the constitution, and its actions are subject to judicial review. Although many people consider it a democracy, the United States is actually a constitutional republic.
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No it isn’t. Be true to your observations.
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Re: Although many people consider it a democracy, the United States is actually a constitutional republic.
A Democracy is Mob rule.

In a republic, the rights of the minority are protected against the potential tyrannical whims of the majority.
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The squirrels and I love you!

You are 100% correct

Also a Democracy is "Mob Rule"

5* and bump
 Quoting: supporter

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... and THIS is why the founders REJECTED a democracy! ...
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 Quoting: wisconsin


the founders were wealthy elite land owners who did not want the poor to have a democracy because they knew if they did, the poor would vote to take what the rich own

james madison said so himself "the minority of the opulent must be protected from the majority"

the wealthy ruling elite wanted to make sure they ruled the poor

wow, what heroes of liberty ad democracy....who wanted to be free from England not for freedom, but because the founding fathers were tired of paying taxes to england and they wanted to be the tax collectors themselves

what amazing men the founding fahehrs were... the wealthy ruling elite who wanted to rule the poor....err, I mean they wanted freedom and liberty...to tax you and steal your wealth
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Re: Although many people consider it a democracy, the United States is actually a constitutional republic.
The idea that great wealth and democracy can’t exist side by side runs right up through the Enlightenment and classical liberalism, including major figures like de Tocqueville, Adam Smith, Jefferson and others. It was more or less assumed.

Aristotle also made the point that if you have, in a perfect democracy, a small number of very rich people and a large number of very poor people, the poor will use their democratic rights to take property away from the rich. Aristotle regarded that as unjust, and proposed two possible solutions: reducing poverty (which is what he recommended) or reducing democracy.

James Madison, who was no fool, noted the same problem, but unlike Aristotle, he aimed to reduce democracy rather than poverty. He believed that the primary goal of government is "to protect the minority of the opulent against the majority." As his colleague John Jay was fond of putting it, "The people who own the country ought to govern it."

Madison feared that a growing part of the population, suffering from the serious inequities of the society, would "secretly sigh for a more equal distribution of [life’s] blessings." If they had democratic power, there’d be a danger they’d do something more than sigh. He discussed this quite explicitly at the Constitutional Convention, expressing his concern that the poor majority would use its power to bring about what we would now call land reform.

So he designed a system that made sure democracy couldn’t function. He placed power in the hands of the "more capable set of men," those who hold "the wealth of the nation." Other citizens were to be marginalized and factionalized in various ways, which have taken a variety of forms over the years: fractured political constituencies, barriers against unified working-class action and cooperation, exploitation of ethnic and racial conflicts, etc.
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Re: Although many people consider it a democracy, the United States is actually a constitutional republic.
The idea that great wealth and democracy can’t exist side by side runs right up through the Enlightenment and classical liberalism, including major figures like de Tocqueville, Adam Smith, Jefferson and others. It was more or less assumed.

Aristotle also made the point that if you have, in a perfect democracy, a small number of very rich people and a large number of very poor people, the poor will use their democratic rights to take property away from the rich. Aristotle regarded that as unjust, and proposed two possible solutions: reducing poverty (which is what he recommended) or reducing democracy.

James Madison, who was no fool, noted the same problem, but unlike Aristotle, he aimed to reduce democracy rather than poverty. He believed that the primary goal of government is "to protect the minority of the opulent against the majority." As his colleague John Jay was fond of putting it, "The people who own the country ought to govern it."

Madison feared that a growing part of the population, suffering from the serious inequities of the society, would "secretly sigh for a more equal distribution of [life’s] blessings." If they had democratic power, there’d be a danger they’d do something more than sigh. He discussed this quite explicitly at the Constitutional Convention, expressing his concern that the poor majority would use its power to bring about what we would now call land reform.

So he designed a system that made sure democracy couldn’t function. He placed power in the hands of the "more capable set of men," those who hold "the wealth of the nation." Other citizens were to be marginalized and factionalized in various ways, which have taken a variety of forms over the years: fractured political constituencies, barriers against unified working-class action and cooperation, exploitation of ethnic and racial conflicts, etc.
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there are your heroes of freedom, the founding fathers at work

making sure the wealthy rule the poor and that the poor are marginalized and factionalized

what amazing men the founding fathers were right?

keeping you poor and marginalized and factionalized so they can rule you and be wealthy
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Re: Although many people consider it a democracy, the United States is actually a constitutional republic.
A constitutional republic is a type of government in which the officials are elected by the people. The republic must govern according to the laws of the constitution, and its actions are subject to judicial review. Although many people consider it a democracy, the United States is actually a constitutional republic.
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And an extended one at that
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The decline of OUR Constitutional Republic began in 1871 and they have been financially raping us since 1913...

Shalom...

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Re: Although many people consider it a democracy, the United States is actually a constitutional republic.
what's the voting system you use then?
starts with a D ...
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Re: Although many people consider it a democracy, the United States is actually a constitutional republic.
It was a constitutional republic until 1933.

Then it went bankrupt, and they officially changed it into a corporation.

They didn't bother to tell the citizenry.
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Re: Although many people consider it a democracy, the United States is actually a constitutional republic.
A Democracy is Mob rule.

In a republic, the rights of the minority are protected against the potential tyrannical whims of the majority.
 Quoting: Domari Nolo


EXACTLY...

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This nonsense has been posted numerous times, and every time I'm baffled as to who gives a shit.
It's not like you guys down there follow it, so why post about it.
Your unironically mocking your own stupidity.
Hilarious.
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Re: Although many people consider it a democracy, the United States is actually a constitutional republic.
A constitutional republic is a type of government in which the officials are elected by the people. The republic must govern according to the laws of the constitution, and its actions are subject to judicial review. Although many people consider it a democracy, the United States is actually a constitutional republic.
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Yes. Pure democracy is a sheep and two wolves voting on whats for dinner.
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Re: Although many people consider it a democracy, the United States is actually a constitutional republic.
A constitutional republic is a type of government in which the officials are elected by the people. The republic must govern according to the laws of the constitution, and its actions are subject to judicial review. Although many people consider it a democracy, the United States is actually a constitutional republic.
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That's right.

The Constitution established a Federal democratic republic. It is the system of the Federal Government; it is democratic because the people govern themselves through elected representatives; and it is a republic because the Government’s power is derived from its people.
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what's the voting system you use then?
starts with a D ...
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Starts with small d
the democratic process is our voting system not our government, I know its too complex for you but you can figure it out.
Pure democracy is a sheep and two wolves voting on whats for dinner.
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It was a Constitutional republic. Now its an big pharma, big tech oligarchist fascist state.
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Re: Although many people consider it a democracy, the United States is actually a constitutional republic.
what's the voting system you use then?
starts with a D ...
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Starts with small d
the democratic process is our voting system not our government, I know its too complex for you but you can figure it out.
Pure democracy is a sheep and two wolves voting on whats for dinner.
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lol what a pucking tard, ITS CALLED DOMINION. and it has been in place since 2001.

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The left is forever trying to make our Great Republic a socialist democracy.

Never gonna happen.
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Umm... It did happen, and we now have a Puppet in office.

Our once great country has fallen to communism.

TBC-cryn
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if it's currently operating MOB rule
then it is MOB rule.

SCOTUS has seen to that.
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Why don't we just do away with that pesky voting, because we know better than those who disagree with us. They are just ignorant little people.

Just install Generalissimo Donald Trump president for life and be done with it.

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Re: Although many people consider it a democracy, the United States is actually a constitutional republic.
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What is a Democratic Republic?
The United States government is a complex entity known as a democratic republic. This essentially means that the government operates on the principles of both a republic and a democracy. In other words, the nation functions upon principles that are common in both republics and democracies.

The American Heritage Dictionary defines a republic as “a political order in which the supreme power lies in a body of citizens who are entitled to vote for officers and representatives responsible to them.”

The Merriam-Webster Dictionary defines democracy as “a government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections.”

In other words, in a republic there are a group of citizens elected or appointed to represent the people, but with a democracy the power is theoretically in the hands of usually all voting citizens. A democratic republic is a mixture of the two.

Direct Democracy Versus a Representative Democracy
Although we hear often that the US is a democracy, it is not fully a direct democracy in the purest sense. Presidential elections are not decided by a direct democracy, but by the electoral college (Electors are officials appointed by each state).

A 2016 article in the Huffington Post outlines the process very clearly. The article states that when voters go to the polls they choose “which candidate receives their state’s electors. The candidate who receives a majority of electoral votes (270) wins the Presidency. The number 538 is the sum of the nation’s 435 Representatives, 100 Senators, and 3 electors given to the District of Columbia.” Thus at the federal level, the US is a representative democracy.

Many aspects of the United States function as a direct democracy such as local elections for mayor, city council and school board members. State governors are another well known example; in each of the fifty states the governor is elected by popular vote.

Constitutional Democracy
Having said that, like many large entities, it is difficult to find one term to define the US political system. For instance, in many cases the government is described as a constitutional democracy because governmental power is defined, limited, and regulated by a constitution and the electorate (General voting populace).

The court system is involved with matters of interpreting the constitution. To make matters even more complex, Native American tribes within the United States are sovereign nations within US borders that are governed by their own separate constitutions. But that is another article for another time.

Below are resources social studies teachers can use to assist students in understanding the complexities, nuances, and their rights within the United States as a democratic republic.





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