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Question for the Freemasons on this forum. Or just those who might be able to answer my questions?

 
Aware & Watching

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Question for the Freemasons on this forum. Or just those who might be able to answer my questions?
My new husband’s late father was a 32nd degree Free Mason. My husband doesn’t know much about the activities his father was involved in..just that he recalls a lot of secrecy surrounding his father. Private things he didn’t divulge to him or his mother. A special chest he was not allowed to touch that contained private things. And as he grew into a teenager, he knew his father was not always honest with his mom as to his where-abouts. There were suspicions Of extra-marital affairs and one time, his parents separated for over a year over a fight they had. He would still see his dad on the weekends, but his parents were separated during that time.
Fast Forward..my husband blamed his parents troubles on the Free Masons. And wants nothing to do with them. They even tried very hard to recruit him when he filled out a questionnaire for joining a MC club. One of the questions was about his heritage in Free Masonry. When they found out his father was a 32nd. Degree, they really pressured him to join. So much so that he decided he didn’t want to join that club after all.
I guess my question is this. Is my husband possibly even myself being watched? Looked after in a sense? Promotions have always come easy to him. He’s a smart man in his field. 30 years as a fire fighter. He’s retired now but teaching fire safety classes in his retirement. Do the Masons look after the children of their deceased high degree members? Is there anything I need to know as his wife? Even his mother, who is still alive, receives phone calls and mail checking in on her? She too wants nothing to do with them and blames her marital problems on them.
How far of an outreach is the arm of the Masons for deceased higher degree members? Is there anything I ought to know?
Thank you for any and all info. And feel free to pm me if you’re a member of course.

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They want mucho bucks from their members for their charities. Children's Hospitals, Burn Centers. Good, worthwhile stuff. But their stuff.

They have to memorize a lot of material. I think it is mostly Bible passages and interpretations. Their interpretations.


My former business partner was a Mason. He said it was all good. I think he said it was based on the Bible.

My son-in-law's father was a Mason. My son-in-law said basically they channel demons, or at least one.
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Rituals, oaths, charities, sacrifices, communion with the devil, worshippers of Lucifer... 90% don't know what the 10% do... and even if they did they wouldn't break their oath... You know one of these oaths involves having your torso split open and being left in the field to be devoured by wild animals... doesn't say you were dead when it happens. The likelihood of some Masons going ham for a 32° degree may be to convince his legacy to finish what he started...

Don't accept help from them...
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Thank you for your responses. I didn’t know the depth of the oath. Yeesh! For lack of a better expression.
I’ve heard both sides of the Masons. Both the good and the not so good. I guess my main concern is how much are they or are they not controlling my husband’s life and subsequently now my own? Are we free of their influence so long as he continues to not want anything to do with them?
Stay informed, stay alert, and keep an open mind..but not so open that you miss the gold nuggets of truth should you be so fortunate to happen upon them.
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I remember hearing a conversation with a bar owner and another business owner, they were talking about different things that needed to be done or repaired or whatnot, they would always bring up if he was a member or not so as to make sure and use the member's services, forgot what the terminology was, brother or whatever, but they clearly run things in a big way.

I think sometimes if you're not a member they will give you a hard time or things will be harder to survive in a small business atmosphere. If you are a member doors will swing wide open, yah, know the club.
"If fascism ever comes to America it will come in the form of liberalism." Ronald Reagan, 60 minutes, 1975
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I remember hearing a conversation with a bar owner and another business owner, they were talking about different things that needed to be done or repaired or whatnot, they would always bring up if he was a member or not so as to make sure and use the member's services, forgot what the terminology was, brother or whatever, but they clearly run things in a big way.

I think sometimes if you're not a member they will give you a hard time or things will be harder to survive in a small business atmosphere. If you are a member doors will swing wide open, yah, know the club.
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Thank you. My husband clearly does not want to be in that club. I just hope they will leave him alone to his own life and choices as a non-member but a strong mason heritage through his late father.
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Does anyone know if there are any signs I should be on the lookout for with regards to him or us, our lives being manipulated either in a good or a bad way?
Stay informed, stay alert, and keep an open mind..but not so open that you miss the gold nuggets of truth should you be so fortunate to happen upon them.
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Does anyone know if there are any signs I should be on the lookout for with regards to him or us, our lives being manipulated either in a good or a bad way?
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They are one of the first to use networking.


Thick as fleas, as the saying goes.
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I don't think you will see any negative feedback.

In fact, they will probably be nice out of respect for his dad and out of the hope your husband will eventually join.
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Does anyone know if there are any signs I should be on the lookout for with regards to him or us, our lives being manipulated either in a good or a bad way?
 Quoting: Aware & Watching


They are one of the first to use networking.


Thick as fleas, as the saying goes.
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I’ve been seeing quite a bit of that. But so far it’s been to his favor and not detriment. Let’s hope that continues.
Stay informed, stay alert, and keep an open mind..but not so open that you miss the gold nuggets of truth should you be so fortunate to happen upon them.
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I don't think you will see any negative feedback.

In fact, they will probably be nice out of respect for his dad and out of the hope your husband will eventually join.
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Thank you. That makes me feel better. The way this world is going…I hope they continue to be “nice” to him. We can all use an edge in this fight..so long as it doesn’t come with a price. Maybe the less he knows..the better.
Stay informed, stay alert, and keep an open mind..but not so open that you miss the gold nuggets of truth should you be so fortunate to happen upon them.
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It's not "Free Mason", it's "Freemason". Just sayin'. (I am NOT one of them.)
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It's not "Free Mason", it's "Freemason". Just sayin'. (I am NOT one of them.)
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Thank you. Good grammar/spelling is important to me. I appreciate the correction.
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I think his success and good fortune has been in spite of the Masons, not because of them. Many Christians believe there are familial curses on families associated with Masonry.

Making good men better is a hoot. More like making bad men look better and get away with more while doing unspeakable evils.

The checking up on his mother sounds more like threats than concern. Yes, they do keep tabs on families.

How did his family history of masonry come up on conversation? Any chance he is one and is just telling you what he thinks you want to hear?
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My new husband’s late father was a 32nd degree Free Mason. My husband doesn’t know much about the activities his father was involved in..just that he recalls a lot of secrecy surrounding his father. Private things he didn’t divulge to him or his mother. A special chest he was not allowed to touch that contained private things. And as he grew into a teenager, he knew his father was not always honest with his mom as to his where-abouts. There were suspicions Of extra-marital affairs and one time, his parents separated for over a year over a fight they had. He would still see his dad on the weekends, but his parents were separated during that time.
Fast Forward..my husband blamed his parents troubles on the Free Masons. And wants nothing to do with them. They even tried very hard to recruit him when he filled out a questionnaire for joining a MC club. One of the questions was about his heritage in Free Masonry. When they found out his father was a 32nd. Degree, they really pressured him to join. So much so that he decided he didn’t want to join that club after all.
I guess my question is this. Is my husband possibly even myself being watched? Looked after in a sense? Promotions have always come easy to him. He’s a smart man in his field. 30 years as a fire fighter. He’s retired now but teaching fire safety classes in his retirement. Do the Masons look after the children of their deceased high degree members? Is there anything I need to know as his wife? Even his mother, who is still alive, receives phone calls and mail checking in on her? She too wants nothing to do with them and blames her marital problems on them.
How far of an outreach is the arm of the Masons for deceased higher degree members? Is there anything I ought to know?
Thank you for any and all info. And feel free to pm me if you’re a member of course.
 Quoting: Aware & Watching


When you start to get into the higher degrees over 30, the Luciferian side of freemasonry comes more to "light". At the top they seek enlightenment from Lucifer. Freemasonry is essentially the babylon mystery religion, kabala and gnostic philosophy, it is the opposite religion to Christianity, they worship the various sun gods of intiquity, though the lower degree members dont understand such. Some think masonry is Christian, but certainly isnt, they flip the bible upside down and misinterpret it to fit their agenda. Your husband certainly should NOT join, and you should pray to Jesus to keep them away. They may not have bad intentions looking out for the family of an ex high ranking member by any means. They would want your husband to join because there are generational demons passed down through bloodlines, and unless he has repented that sin of his forefathers to Jesus, that demon will still be with him. These things are important in generational satanism.
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Quotes from high ranking leading masons:

Lucifer, the Light-bearer !  Strange and mysterious name to give to the Spirit of darkness!  Lucifer, the Son of the Morning!   It is he who bears the Light, and with its splendors intolerable, blinds feeble, sensual or selfish souls?   Doubt it not!"

Albert Pike, Morals and Dogma of the ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry, p321, 19th Degree of Grand Pontiff

Domenico Margiotta 0- 33rd degree Mason has written

"Palladism is necessarily a luciferian rite. Its religion is Manichaean neo-gnostism, teaching that the divinity is dual and that lucifer is equal of Adonay, with lucifer the God of Light and Goodness struggling for humanity against Adonay the God of darkness and Evil.. Albert Pike had only specified and unveiled the dogmas of the high grades of all other masonries, for in no matter what rite, The Great architect of the Universe is not the God worshipped by Christians"

Extract from 'Masonry - beyond the light' Wm.Schnoebelen former 32nd degree Mason

“When the Mason learns that the key to the warrior on the block is the proper application of the dynamo of living power, he has learned the mystery of his craft. The seething energies of Lucifer are in his hands and before he may step onwards and upwards he must prove his ability to properly apply (this) energy.”

‘Lost Keys of Freemasonry’ page 48, Manley P Hall 33rd degree.

General Albert Pike, Grand Commander, sovereign pontiff of universal freemasonry, giving instructions to the 23 supreme councils of the world.

“That which we must say to the crowd is, we worship a god, but it is the god one adores without superstition. To you sovereign grand inspector general, we say this and you may repeat it to the brethren of the 32nd, 31st and 30th degrees - the Masonic religion should be by all of us initiates of the high degrees, maintained in the purity of the luciferian doctrine. 

If lucifer were not god, would Adonay (the God of the Christians) whose deeds prove cruelty, perfidy and hatred of man, barbarism and repulsion for science, would Adonay and His priests, calumniate Him? 

Yes, lucifer is god, and unfortunately Adonay is also God, for the eternal law is that there is no light without shade, no beauty without ugliness, no white without black, for the absolute can only exist as two gods. darkness being necessary for light to serve as its foil, as the pedestal is necessary to the statue, and the brake to the locomotive. 

Thus, the doctrine of Satanism is heresy, and the true and pure philosophical religion is the belief in lucifer, the equal of Adonay, but lucifer, god of light and god of good, is struggling for humanity against Adonay, the god of darkness and evil”

Recorded by A.C. De La Rive, La Femme et L’enfant dans La Franc-Maconnerie Universelle, Page 588. Cited from ‘The question of freemasonry, ( 2nd edition 1986 by Edward Decker pp12-14)
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Quotes from high ranking leading masons:

Lucifer, the Light-bearer !  Strange and mysterious name to give to the Spirit of darkness!  Lucifer, the Son of the Morning!   It is he who bears the Light, and with its splendors intolerable, blinds feeble, sensual or selfish souls?   Doubt it not!"

Albert Pike, Morals and Dogma of the ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry, p321, 19th Degree of Grand Pontiff

Domenico Margiotta 0- 33rd degree Mason has written

"Palladism is necessarily a luciferian rite. Its religion is Manichaean neo-gnostism, teaching that the divinity is dual and that lucifer is equal of Adonay, with lucifer the God of Light and Goodness struggling for humanity against Adonay the God of darkness and Evil.. Albert Pike had only specified and unveiled the dogmas of the high grades of all other masonries, for in no matter what rite, The Great architect of the Universe is not the God worshipped by Christians"

Extract from 'Masonry - beyond the light' Wm.Schnoebelen former 32nd degree Mason

“When the Mason learns that the key to the warrior on the block is the proper application of the dynamo of living power, he has learned the mystery of his craft. The seething energies of Lucifer are in his hands and before he may step onwards and upwards he must prove his ability to properly apply (this) energy.”

‘Lost Keys of Freemasonry’ page 48, Manley P Hall 33rd degree.

General Albert Pike, Grand Commander, sovereign pontiff of universal freemasonry, giving instructions to the 23 supreme councils of the world.

“That which we must say to the crowd is, we worship a god, but it is the god one adores without superstition. To you sovereign grand inspector general, we say this and you may repeat it to the brethren of the 32nd, 31st and 30th degrees - the Masonic religion should be by all of us initiates of the high degrees, maintained in the purity of the luciferian doctrine. 

If lucifer were not god, would Adonay (the God of the Christians) whose deeds prove cruelty, perfidy and hatred of man, barbarism and repulsion for science, would Adonay and His priests, calumniate Him? 

Yes, lucifer is god, and unfortunately Adonay is also God, for the eternal law is that there is no light without shade, no beauty without ugliness, no white without black, for the absolute can only exist as two gods. darkness being necessary for light to serve as its foil, as the pedestal is necessary to the statue, and the brake to the locomotive. 

Thus, the doctrine of Satanism is heresy, and the true and pure philosophical religion is the belief in lucifer, the equal of Adonay, but lucifer, god of light and god of good, is struggling for humanity against Adonay, the god of darkness and evil”

Recorded by A.C. De La Rive, La Femme et L’enfant dans La Franc-Maconnerie Universelle, Page 588. Cited from ‘The question of freemasonry, ( 2nd edition 1986 by Edward Decker pp12-14)
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My new husband’s late father was a 32nd degree Free Mason. My husband doesn’t know much about the activities his father was involved in..just that he recalls a lot of secrecy surrounding his father. Private things he didn’t divulge to him or his mother. A special chest he was not allowed to touch that contained private things. And as he grew into a teenager, he knew his father was not always honest with his mom as to his where-abouts. There were suspicions Of extra-marital affairs and one time, his parents separated for over a year over a fight they had. He would still see his dad on the weekends, but his parents were separated during that time.
Fast Forward..my husband blamed his parents troubles on the Free Masons. And wants nothing to do with them. They even tried very hard to recruit him when he filled out a questionnaire for joining a MC club. One of the questions was about his heritage in Free Masonry. When they found out his father was a 32nd. Degree, they really pressured him to join. So much so that he decided he didn’t want to join that club after all.
I guess my question is this. Is my husband possibly even myself being watched? Looked after in a sense? Promotions have always come easy to him. He’s a smart man in his field. 30 years as a fire fighter. He’s retired now but teaching fire safety classes in his retirement. Do the Masons look after the children of their deceased high degree members? Is there anything I need to know as his wife? Even his mother, who is still alive, receives phone calls and mail checking in on her? She too wants nothing to do with them and blames her marital problems on them.
How far of an outreach is the arm of the Masons for deceased higher degree members? Is there anything I ought to know?
Thank you for any and all info. And feel free to pm me if you’re a member of course.
 Quoting: Aware & Watching


Why would you expect an honest answer from a secret society pledged to sececy?
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I remember hearing a conversation with a bar owner and another business owner, they were talking about different things that needed to be done or repaired or whatnot, they would always bring up if he was a member or not so as to make sure and use the member's services, forgot what the terminology was, brother or whatever, but they clearly run things in a big way.

I think sometimes if you're not a member they will give you a hard time or things will be harder to survive in a small business atmosphere. If you are a member doors will swing wide open, yah, know the club.
 Quoting: Keilani


That the members doors swing open is BULLSHIT. Just like any organization there are member clicks' and 'member favorites'. If a member is not with the 'in crowd' he could ask for help, travel the earth from North to South and East to West, till the cows come home and these cocksucker members will turn away.
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Anyone who is steps into a Masonic Lodge is like the roach who enters the Roach Hotel; once you're in, you can't get out.
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I think his success and good fortune has been in spite of the Masons, not because of them. Many Christians believe there are familial curses on families associated with Masonry.

Making good men better is a hoot. More like making bad men look better and get away with more while doing unspeakable evils.

The checking up on his mother sounds more like threats than concern. Yes, they do keep tabs on families.

How did his family history of masonry come up on conversation? Any chance he is one and is just telling you what he thinks you want to hear?
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It actually came up when we were dating and he was telling me about a UFO experience he had as a teenager. It was pretty intense and left an impression on him. I’m not referring to the grainy pics/vids people capture of something off in the distance. I’m talking about a craft hovering right over his house. A craft that emanated a very loud sound a sound that one would think would be caused by loud engines or turbines. Maybe even rotors on a helicopter. Yet not one leaf was moving on the trees in the yard as the craft hovered over his house right in front of him and his friend. And then sped off like a streak of lightening and vanished right in front of him. Anyway..that prompted a discussion about such things which eventually led to Freemasons. His dad also worked closely with Nasa and prior to that, he was an MP in the military.
I know him well. He wouldn’t lie to me about anything..but especially Freemasons and any association he would have with them. He HATES what they did to his parents. He is an only child. He only had his parents as his family.

Last Edited by Aware & Watching on 07/12/2021 01:27 AM
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My new husband’s late father was a 32nd degree Free Mason. My husband doesn’t know much about the activities his father was involved in..just that he recalls a lot of secrecy surrounding his father. Private things he didn’t divulge to him or his mother. A special chest he was not allowed to touch that contained private things. And as he grew into a teenager, he knew his father was not always honest with his mom as to his where-abouts. There were suspicions Of extra-marital affairs and one time, his parents separated for over a year over a fight they had. He would still see his dad on the weekends, but his parents were separated during that time.
Fast Forward..my husband blamed his parents troubles on the Free Masons. And wants nothing to do with them. They even tried very hard to recruit him when he filled out a questionnaire for joining a MC club. One of the questions was about his heritage in Free Masonry. When they found out his father was a 32nd. Degree, they really pressured him to join. So much so that he decided he didn’t want to join that club after all.
I guess my question is this. Is my husband possibly even myself being watched? Looked after in a sense? Promotions have always come easy to him. He’s a smart man in his field. 30 years as a fire fighter. He’s retired now but teaching fire safety classes in his retirement. Do the Masons look after the children of their deceased high degree members? Is there anything I need to know as his wife? Even his mother, who is still alive, receives phone calls and mail checking in on her? She too wants nothing to do with them and blames her marital problems on them.
How far of an outreach is the arm of the Masons for deceased higher degree members? Is there anything I ought to know?
Thank you for any and all info. And feel free to pm me if you’re a member of course.
 Quoting: Aware & Watching


Thank you so much for this response. This is the kind of thing I’m wanting to know. The generational aspect of Masons. And Mason involvement. We are both Christian and attend a non-denom. Church. His mother is a loyal Lutheran just as her parents before her. One of the things she didn’t like about the Freemasons is their universalism when it comes to religion. I guess it goes against Lutheran doctrine. I didn’t think to pray for his protection from this generational demon. But you can be sure I will be adding it to my prayers.
Thank you again for the information.

When you start to get into the higher degrees over 30, the Luciferian side of freemasonry comes more to "light". At the top they seek enlightenment from Lucifer. Freemasonry is essentially the babylon mystery religion, kabala and gnostic philosophy, it is the opposite religion to Christianity, they worship the various sun gods of intiquity, though the lower degree members dont understand such. Some think masonry is Christian, but certainly isnt, they flip the bible upside down and misinterpret it to fit their agenda. Your husband certainly should NOT join, and you should pray to Jesus to keep them away. They may not have bad intentions looking out for the family of an ex high ranking member by any means. They would want your husband to join because there are generational demons passed down through bloodlines, and unless he has repented that sin of his forefathers to Jesus, that demon will still be with him. These things are important in generational satanism.
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Quotes from high ranking leading masons:

Lucifer, the Light-bearer !  Strange and mysterious name to give to the Spirit of darkness!  Lucifer, the Son of the Morning!   It is he who bears the Light, and with its splendors intolerable, blinds feeble, sensual or selfish souls?   Doubt it not!"

Albert Pike, Morals and Dogma of the ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry, p321, 19th Degree of Grand Pontiff

Domenico Margiotta 0- 33rd degree Mason has written

"Palladism is necessarily a luciferian rite. Its religion is Manichaean neo-gnostism, teaching that the divinity is dual and that lucifer is equal of Adonay, with lucifer the God of Light and Goodness struggling for humanity against Adonay the God of darkness and Evil.. Albert Pike had only specified and unveiled the dogmas of the high grades of all other masonries, for in no matter what rite, The Great architect of the Universe is not the God worshipped by Christians"

Extract from 'Masonry - beyond the light' Wm.Schnoebelen former 32nd degree Mason

“When the Mason learns that the key to the warrior on the block is the proper application of the dynamo of living power, he has learned the mystery of his craft. The seething energies of Lucifer are in his hands and before he may step onwards and upwards he must prove his ability to properly apply (this) energy.”

‘Lost Keys of Freemasonry’ page 48, Manley P Hall 33rd degree.

General Albert Pike, Grand Commander, sovereign pontiff of universal freemasonry, giving instructions to the 23 supreme councils of the world.

“That which we must say to the crowd is, we worship a god, but it is the god one adores without superstition. To you sovereign grand inspector general, we say this and you may repeat it to the brethren of the 32nd, 31st and 30th degrees - the Masonic religion should be by all of us initiates of the high degrees, maintained in the purity of the luciferian doctrine. 

If lucifer were not god, would Adonay (the God of the Christians) whose deeds prove cruelty, perfidy and hatred of man, barbarism and repulsion for science, would Adonay and His priests, calumniate Him? 

Yes, lucifer is god, and unfortunately Adonay is also God, for the eternal law is that there is no light without shade, no beauty without ugliness, no white without black, for the absolute can only exist as two gods. darkness being necessary for light to serve as its foil, as the pedestal is necessary to the statue, and the brake to the locomotive. 

Thus, the doctrine of Satanism is heresy, and the true and pure philosophical religion is the belief in lucifer, the equal of Adonay, but lucifer, god of light and god of good, is struggling for humanity against Adonay, the god of darkness and evil”

Recorded by A.C. De La Rive, La Femme et L’enfant dans La Franc-Maconnerie Universelle, Page 588. Cited from ‘The question of freemasonry, ( 2nd edition 1986 by Edward Decker pp12-14)
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This was very enlightening. Thank you.
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My new husband’s late father was a 32nd degree Free Mason. My husband doesn’t know much about the activities his father was involved in..just that he recalls a lot of secrecy surrounding his father. Private things he didn’t divulge to him or his mother. A special chest he was not allowed to touch that contained private things. And as he grew into a teenager, he knew his father was not always honest with his mom as to his where-abouts. There were suspicions Of extra-marital affairs and one time, his parents separated for over a year over a fight they had. He would still see his dad on the weekends, but his parents were separated during that time.
Fast Forward..my husband blamed his parents troubles on the Free Masons. And wants nothing to do with them. They even tried very hard to recruit him when he filled out a questionnaire for joining a MC club. One of the questions was about his heritage in Free Masonry. When they found out his father was a 32nd. Degree, they really pressured him to join. So much so that he decided he didn’t want to join that club after all.
I guess my question is this. Is my husband possibly even myself being watched? Looked after in a sense? Promotions have always come easy to him. He’s a smart man in his field. 30 years as a fire fighter. He’s retired now but teaching fire safety classes in his retirement. Do the Masons look after the children of their deceased high degree members? Is there anything I need to know as his wife? Even his mother, who is still alive, receives phone calls and mail checking in on her? She too wants nothing to do with them and blames her marital problems on them.
How far of an outreach is the arm of the Masons for deceased higher degree members? Is there anything I ought to know?
Thank you for any and all info. And feel free to pm me if you’re a member of course.
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Why would you expect an honest answer from a secret society pledged to sececy?
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A good question. I guess I’m a indomitable optimist.
Perhaps I hoped that those who are or were part of the Masons, might be allowed to tell some things. That not all things are secret?
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Anyone who is steps into a Masonic Lodge is like the roach who enters the Roach Hotel; once you're in, you can't get out.
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In that case..I’m glad my husband hasn’t stepped in.
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My new husband’s late father was a 32nd degree Free Mason.

It’s spelled Freemason, lol.

My husband doesn’t know much about the activities his father was involved in..just that he recalls a lot of secrecy surrounding his father. Private things he didn’t divulge to him or his mother. A special chest he was not allowed to touch that contained private things. And as he grew into a teenager, he knew his father was not always honest with his mom as to his where-abouts. There were suspicions Of extra-marital affairs and one time, his parents separated for over a year over a fight they had. He would still see his dad on the weekends, but his parents were separated during that time.
Fast Forward..my husband blamed his parents troubles on the Free Masons. And wants nothing to do with them.

Okay. Sound like a lot of men. Nothing to do with being a Freemason..

They even tried very hard to recruit him when he filled out a questionnaire for joining a MC club. One of the questions was about his heritage in Free Masonry. When they found out his father was a 32nd. Degree, they really pressured him to join. So much so that he decided he didn’t want to join that club after all.

Freemasonry isn’t an MC and doesn’t solicit membership. 2B1 Ask1.


I guess my question is this. Is my husband possibly even myself being watched? Looked after in a sense?

No and no.


Promotions have always come easy to him. He’s a smart man in his field. 30 years as a fire fighter. He’s retired now but teaching fire safety classes in his retirement. Do the Masons look after the children of their deceased high degree members?

Generally, no, unless a widow makes a request to the deceased member’s Lodge for assistance. Any assistance would come voluntarily from individual members and not the Lodge.


Is there anything I need to know as his wife?

Yeah, clear your calendar for Masonic functions and don’t pester him about Freemasonry questions that he won’t answer anyway.


Even his mother, who is still alive, receives phone calls and mail checking in on her? She too wants nothing to do with them and blames her marital problems on them.

So Lodge brothers looking in on a brother’s widow is a bad thing? Sounds like those brothers should spend their time reaching out to someone that appreciates the contact.


How far of an outreach is the arm of the Masons for deceased higher degree members? Is there anything I ought to know?

Looks like you’re looking for some sort of potential financial benefit because of your husband’s membership status (assuming he becomes a member). Guess what - there is none. Freemasonry is about giving and not expecting anything in return.


Thank you for any and all info. And feel free to pm me if you’re a member of course.

32 degree Scottish Rite / Knights Templar since 1990.
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Quotes from high ranking leading masons:

Lucifer, the Light-bearer !  Strange and mysterious name to give to the Spirit of darkness!  Lucifer, the Son of the Morning!   It is he who bears the Light, and with its splendors intolerable, blinds feeble, sensual or selfish souls?   Doubt it not!"

Albert Pike, Morals and Dogma of the ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry, p321, 19th Degree of Grand Pontiff

Domenico Margiotta 0- 33rd degree Mason has written

"Palladism is necessarily a luciferian rite. Its religion is Manichaean neo-gnostism, teaching that the divinity is dual and that lucifer is equal of Adonay, with lucifer the God of Light and Goodness struggling for humanity against Adonay the God of darkness and Evil.. Albert Pike had only specified and unveiled the dogmas of the high grades of all other masonries, for in no matter what rite, The Great architect of the Universe is not the God worshipped by Christians"

Extract from 'Masonry - beyond the light' Wm.Schnoebelen former 32nd degree Mason

“When the Mason learns that the key to the warrior on the block is the proper application of the dynamo of living power, he has learned the mystery of his craft. The seething energies of Lucifer are in his hands and before he may step onwards and upwards he must prove his ability to properly apply (this) energy.”

‘Lost Keys of Freemasonry’ page 48, Manley P Hall 33rd degree.

General Albert Pike, Grand Commander, sovereign pontiff of universal freemasonry, giving instructions to the 23 supreme councils of the world.

“That which we must say to the crowd is, we worship a god, but it is the god one adores without superstition. To you sovereign grand inspector general, we say this and you may repeat it to the brethren of the 32nd, 31st and 30th degrees - the Masonic religion should be by all of us initiates of the high degrees, maintained in the purity of the luciferian doctrine. 

If lucifer were not god, would Adonay (the God of the Christians) whose deeds prove cruelty, perfidy and hatred of man, barbarism and repulsion for science, would Adonay and His priests, calumniate Him? 

Yes, lucifer is god, and unfortunately Adonay is also God, for the eternal law is that there is no light without shade, no beauty without ugliness, no white without black, for the absolute can only exist as two gods. darkness being necessary for light to serve as its foil, as the pedestal is necessary to the statue, and the brake to the locomotive. 

Thus, the doctrine of Satanism is heresy, and the true and pure philosophical religion is the belief in lucifer, the equal of Adonay, but lucifer, god of light and god of good, is struggling for humanity against Adonay, the god of darkness and evil”

Recorded by A.C. De La Rive, La Femme et L’enfant dans La Franc-Maconnerie Universelle, Page 588. Cited from ‘The question of freemasonry, ( 2nd edition 1986 by Edward Decker pp12-14)
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I have nothing substantial to add to this conversation, but I think this information is fascinating. Thank you for posting all that.

cheers
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My new husband’s late father was a 32nd degree Free Mason.

It’s spelled Freemason, lol.

My husband doesn’t know much about the activities his father was involved in..just that he recalls a lot of secrecy surrounding his father. Private things he didn’t divulge to him or his mother. A special chest he was not allowed to touch that contained private things. And as he grew into a teenager, he knew his father was not always honest with his mom as to his where-abouts. There were suspicions Of extra-marital affairs and one time, his parents separated for over a year over a fight they had. He would still see his dad on the weekends, but his parents were separated during that time.
Fast Forward..my husband blamed his parents troubles on the Free Masons. And wants nothing to do with them.

Okay. Sound like a lot of men. Nothing to do with being a Freemason..

They even tried very hard to recruit him when he filled out a questionnaire for joining a MC club. One of the questions was about his heritage in Free Masonry. When they found out his father was a 32nd. Degree, they really pressured him to join. So much so that he decided he didn’t want to join that club after all.

Freemasonry isn’t an MC and doesn’t solicit membership. 2B1 Ask1.


I guess my question is this. Is my husband possibly even myself being watched? Looked after in a sense?

No and no.


Promotions have always come easy to him. He’s a smart man in his field. 30 years as a fire fighter. He’s retired now but teaching fire safety classes in his retirement. Do the Masons look after the children of their deceased high degree members?

Generally, no, unless a widow makes a request to the deceased member’s Lodge for assistance. Any assistance would come voluntarily from individual members and not the Lodge.


Is there anything I need to know as his wife?

Yeah, clear your calendar for Masonic functions and don’t pester him about Freemasonry questions that he won’t answer anyway.


Even his mother, who is still alive, receives phone calls and mail checking in on her? She too wants nothing to do with them and blames her marital problems on them.

So Lodge brothers looking in on a brother’s widow is a bad thing? Sounds like those brothers should spend their time reaching out to someone that appreciates the contact.


How far of an outreach is the arm of the Masons for deceased higher degree members? Is there anything I ought to know?

Looks like you’re looking for some sort of potential financial benefit because of your husband’s membership status (assuming he becomes a member). Guess what - there is none. Freemasonry is about giving and not expecting anything in return.


Thank you for any and all info. And feel free to pm me if you’re a member of course.

32 degree Scottish Rite / Knights Templar since 1990.
 Quoting: Aware & Watching

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Thank you for your response. Yes. I know I misspelled Freemason. Another poster already pointed this out to me and I have since corrected the title of this thread.
I don’t know why he was asked about his heritage. But he was. The MC club was for fire fighters.
To be clear..I’m not looking for assistance, financial or otherwise. I’m looking for us to be left alone..just as my husband wants it. I’m not saying we haven’t been, just making sure that isn’t going to change for him or for us.
No calendar to clear. He has absolutely no interest to join the Masons. Regardless of his heritage.

I have a question for you. If the Freemasons are all about giving, how do you reconcile their philanthropic side with the evil that others on this thread and countless other threads on GLP equate them with? Particularly the generational curse mentioned in this thread?

Just curious. And I appreciate your talking with me about this.
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I agree with the first reply on here. As a female born into a high-ranking men mason family on both sides, they do seem to stalk their members and family members of members, female and male, child and adult, in order to get them to join the various clubs for girls and young women and men to basically keep you connected. It’s for financial reasons mainly and nothing creepy or esoteric/occult/special about you, because in order to get to 32 and then 33, you have to contribute a lot of money to them. So they are basically ensuring their own continuity as an organization by contacting you and sending cards and calling. Not unlike an auto dealership does after you buy from them. They keep your info and really lay it on thick after your loan is paid off. It’s the same thing. I also spent time working at a lodge and asking questions of the male members and I figured out the way the masons work is they seek out men who are already rich powerful and successful and get those ones to join. It’s not like you join and then you become those things through them. They do do a lot of charitable things and contribute most of the money to children’s funds and burn victims. They also have Masonic nursing homes all over the country where they pay for the care of the aging masons & their spouses up until they die which can get rather expensive, upwards of $20k a month sometimes.
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Children are NOT taken care of nor looked after or elevated.

There is a joke amongst free masons when one dies: at the funeral they all say better you than me. Any "promise" to care for the wife or children goes out the window upon death. For those who speak of profanity and have the gall to call us profane, such speaks volumes.

As for elevating, William Cooper said he was selected to the intelligence in the military because he was a Demolay child in his youth.





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