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Restarting Mars

 
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Restarting Mars
Here's an idea for you

We drill to Mars' core, and add/pour in the minerals/metals that would help give Mars an electromagnetic field.

Instead of mining ore, we'd be depositing ore, resourced from other parts of the planet, or from an asteroid rich in the materials needed to complete the project.

Then with it's phosphorus-rich soil, Hemp would be a perfect terraforming plant, to get the industries going as well.

3D printed hemp polymers, layered with fibers and fiber-molding, we can make materials that are stronger than steel and lighter than steel.

We can then make return vehicles to Earth, with Mars grown hemp.

We can get there with Earth grown hemp, with hemp-based massive-spacecraft panels and cranes to assemble, and the hemp based fuels needed to propel, hemp-based fiber/polymers, hemp-carbon products, hemp-graphene products such as batteries and composite-materials.

We can also use green/blue algae grown around the areas outside that are near moisture, they can help start forming oxygen rich layers to our new Mars electromagnetic-field potential.

For hemp, build massive geodesic-greenhouses, fill them with hemp, and when Mars is at 50%-60% of the atmospheric needs, we slowly open up the hemp-greenhouses, first over-night, then when the sun hits the gasses, they'll expand, and help push layers of gasses into the various electro-field layers.

Continuing to do that, pumping the atmosphere overnight, until people could cut back to just using oxygen, not have to use a space-suit, then we can plant hemp outside of the greenhouses besides the algae.

No-till method, so that we capture more soil-bacteria gasses that can be released by the plants, when needed.

Hügelkultur methods. We use anything that we find that is organic, and we bury it in mound-compost lines, creating more and more organic-gas production and nutrient-rich soil, that will help us grow hemp there on those Hügelkultur mounds.

We should run some tests underground and grow most of our food underground, right away, where we can live, until we terraform the surface.

We can make geodesic domes to view the sun/outside.
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Re: Restarting Mars
there is a better and a more realistic way:

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"This new research is coming about due to the application of full plasma physics codes and laboratory experiments. In the future it is quite possible that an inflatable structure(s) can generate a magnetic dipole field at a level of perhaps 1 or 2 Tesla (or 10,000 to 20,000 Gauss) as an active shield against the solar wind."

You can get a decent bump in atmospheric pressure within a couple of years:
"As a result, Mars atmosphere would naturally thicken over time, which lead to many new possibilities for human exploration and colonization. According to Green and his colleagues, these would include an average increase of about 4 °C (~7 °F), which would be enough to melt the carbon dioxide ice in the northern polar ice cap. This would trigger a greenhouse effect, warming the atmosphere further and causing the water ice in the polar caps to melt.

By their calculations, Green and his colleagues estimated that this could lead to 1/7th of Mars' oceans – the ones that covered it billions of years ago – to be restored. If this is beginning to sound a bit like a lecture on how to terraform Mars, it is probably because these same ideas have been raised by people who advocating that very thing. But in the meantime, these changes would facilitate human exploration between now and mid-century."
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Re: Restarting Mars
there is a better and a more realistic way:

[link to phys.org (secure)]

"This new research is coming about due to the application of full plasma physics codes and laboratory experiments. In the future it is quite possible that an inflatable structure(s) can generate a magnetic dipole field at a level of perhaps 1 or 2 Tesla (or 10,000 to 20,000 Gauss) as an active shield against the solar wind."

You can get a decent bump in atmospheric pressure within a couple of years:
"As a result, Mars atmosphere would naturally thicken over time, which lead to many new possibilities for human exploration and colonization. According to Green and his colleagues, these would include an average increase of about 4 °C (~7 °F), which would be enough to melt the carbon dioxide ice in the northern polar ice cap. This would trigger a greenhouse effect, warming the atmosphere further and causing the water ice in the polar caps to melt.

By their calculations, Green and his colleagues estimated that this could lead to 1/7th of Mars' oceans – the ones that covered it billions of years ago – to be restored. If this is beginning to sound a bit like a lecture on how to terraform Mars, it is probably because these same ideas have been raised by people who advocating that very thing. But in the meantime, these changes would facilitate human exploration between now and mid-century."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79987141



Does your idea require energy?
lots of it, to maintain?


Or is is permanent like my idea?


So I'm not sure you can logically say "better" because none of it has been attempted,



Your idea might not work because of energy needs, where mine would, physically require the least amount of maintenance, would be permanent-fix, wouldn't need extra energy, where yours requires energy to maintain.

Here's another idea that would require energy to maintain, I've theorized using huge HAARP-like facilities, to reverb an atmosphere, as well, similar to the same frequency, but ratio'd down for Mars' smaller size, would be a slighter higher vibration-field, being broadcasted out in radiowaves, to mimmic the heartbeat of Mars' of what it could be with the proper fields to sustain an atmosphere.

But I ran into issues, figuring out a way to power all of it without touching other areas of Mars for power/energy use to maintain it.

When you can prove your idea is passive and is maintained for hundreds of thousands of years, you let me know.

Mine is a permanent and passive project.
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Re: Restarting Mars
there is a better and a more realistic way:

[link to phys.org (secure)]

"This new research is coming about due to the application of full plasma physics codes and laboratory experiments. In the future it is quite possible that an inflatable structure(s) can generate a magnetic dipole field at a level of perhaps 1 or 2 Tesla (or 10,000 to 20,000 Gauss) as an active shield against the solar wind."

You can get a decent bump in atmospheric pressure within a couple of years:
"As a result, Mars atmosphere would naturally thicken over time, which lead to many new possibilities for human exploration and colonization. According to Green and his colleagues, these would include an average increase of about 4 °C (~7 °F), which would be enough to melt the carbon dioxide ice in the northern polar ice cap. This would trigger a greenhouse effect, warming the atmosphere further and causing the water ice in the polar caps to melt.

By their calculations, Green and his colleagues estimated that this could lead to 1/7th of Mars' oceans – the ones that covered it billions of years ago – to be restored. If this is beginning to sound a bit like a lecture on how to terraform Mars, it is probably because these same ideas have been raised by people who advocating that very thing. But in the meantime, these changes would facilitate human exploration between now and mid-century."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79987141


NASA?

LOL

Bro, don't make me laugh.

Staging a satellite to "shield Mars" again is not sustainable, isn't permanent, something could knock the satellite out, and we'd be screwed, would be catastrophic if it ever failed.

So no, your NASA idea isn't better.

Sorry.
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Re: Restarting Mars
I personally suspect I know what creates a natural planetary magnetic field. Of course, it's all speculation.

Drilling to the core would be insanely difficult. Most people don't understand we can barely scratch the surface of the earth with our mining.
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Re: Restarting Mars
I'm All-In...

Where can I sign up for free shit.

They got Gibs on Mars...?
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Re: Restarting Mars
Space explains that things grow and dose off,but what if a star flower went to school like anyone ,then it should be smarter about fluctuations in space and its eh whatever.
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Re: Restarting Mars
The sun likes earth so they both will kittle eachother on days or weeks...
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Re: Restarting Mars
I personally suspect I know what creates a natural planetary magnetic field. Of course, it's all speculation.

Drilling to the core would be insanely difficult. Most people don't understand we can barely scratch the surface of the earth with our mining.
 Quoting: Glaxnor


No, we have advanced drilling/mining/underground-base earth-slicing pods.

We can do it, they are quite efficient, plus with RF we can map out underground caves that help make the process easier/faster.

All drones, no lives lost until the drill and fill is complete.
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OH BROTHER THREAD of the day... Mars has been restarting for some time and it does not need a magnetosphere at this time
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OH BROTHER THREAD of the day... Mars has been restarting for some time and it does not need a magnetosphere at this time
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I agree, but wouldn't it be nice to have a back-up planet that is filled with hemp for the purpose of restarting a good-green society with advanced plant-materials?

Plus to show that it can be done, so that maybe Earth would finally grow some Hemp for fuel and building-material products
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