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Massive Chemspray in Upstate NY today (pics)

 
Vedic II

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Wake turbulance my ass....moron


That must have been some fart! But seriously, how is saying that wake turbulence could cause ripples in a contrail moronic?
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You must be the nicest poster I have found on GLP! I love your conversation style...I can't wait to engage in conversation with you on a subject I have more knowledge/interest in.
Do I think you really care what I am saying - no. But the people who read this may and they MAY see through you shilling for the guy to see the truth - then where will that leave you? You'll just be another voice shouting about some dreamworld you've constructed either for money or by delusion.

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I believe these jets are spraying & creating a radar grid....someone is keeping tabs on everything coming in and out of our atmosphere.quote anon cow 254371


An aluminum / barium polymer fiber in aersol form is what is being sprayed.


This ill considered shit has killed the bees, seriously reduced the bird population and is probably irreparably damaging life in the oceans.
People it's your air and your world.
They are taking them from you right in front of your faces.
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Wake turbulance my ass....moron


That must have been some fart! But seriously, how is saying that wake turbulence could cause ripples in a contrail moronic?

You must be the nicest poster I have found on GLP! I love your conversation style...I can't wait to engage in conversation with you on a subject I have more knowledge/interest in.
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I much appreciate the compliment. I usually post on threads involving chemtrails or space science.
It's good to be open-minded, just don't let your brain fall out.
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Here's something that I don't get. There are claims that the chemtrails are toxic. I find one glaring problem with that assumption, ever heard of the canary in the coal mine? Think about it

Have you not noticed the lose of insects and birds? Cancer rates are off the chart. You are not paying attention.


No,the only insect in decline here is the European honey bee brought about buy a mite infestation. Birds here are plentyfull, and as far as cancer goes I thought I read the rates were dropping in the US. I'll have to check into that.

I pay plenty attention.


No, you really don't pay plenty attention.

Here's a link from TIME Magazine showing breast cancer rates increasing rapidly, not only in the US and western nations, but worldwide:

[link to www.time.com]


Childhood cancers, prostate cancer, brain cancer and other cancers are on the rise:

[link to www.chemicalindustryarchives.org]


Yes , I do pay plenty attention. Just cause you read some stats about breast cancer don't mean shit about your fairy tale Chemtrails.

Who is to fucking gain by spraying posion from jets? How can they keep from getting posioned too. Really, if there was posion being sprayed at the rates you chemtards rave about the planet would be a fucking empty shell, devoid of all life.

But then again maybe it is true but it just makes people stupid....that I can beleive!

I can't wait till I see the next contrail..I mean chemtrail. I can run in to post on GLP.....THERE SPRAYING STUPID JUICE AGAIN STAY INDOORS...OH SHIT TOO LATE. rant


Well...you were WRONG about the cancer rates, what makes you think you are right about the rest of it, "Mr. Paying Attention"?????

Sad for you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 352771


LOL what the fuck are you on man. I never said anything one way or the other about the cancer rates being right or wrong. I said "I'll have to check into it".

If you beleive your own words about this subject, how could you ever leave your house?
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If you want to stop chemtrails look at this link:
[link to www.willthomas.net]
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Where's all the debunkers ???

How could anyone debunk this? I wish to God I really knew why this is happening. I can tell you one thing, I make sure and stay in as much as possible on days with heavy spraying.It HOPEFULLY helps a little.
 Quoting: childoflight 352629

I agree. I'm afraid of sending my child to school because of them...much less working and paying taxes which support the chemtrail spraying. In fact, it's because of chemtrails that I am looking to move out of the US.
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have a few questions for 'shills'.

I have been documenting arial obscuration photographically since 1999, using a digital camera from a specific location and time of day. I went out each day at noon and took four photographs, facing north, south , East and West and an angle of 15 degrees from the horizon.

A definite correlating pattern began to show up. During the solar maximum, "chemtrailing" was intense and covered the sky with 'condensation trails', especially during periods of high solar activity.
Now , with solar activity being so low and the solar minimum bottoming out,the count is usually zero, but sometimes as high as three of four sumulataneous trails. There is NEVER a resulting cloud cover, like during the solar maximum.
During the solar maximum there were as many as ten aircraft visable at one time , always the same white unmarked aircraft, and trails crossed the skies and spread out until the sky was totally obscured. Wierd storms sometimes accompanied these operations, and there was a look of 'unrealness' to the sky (sundogs were an almost daily ocurance, for instance).
Also, I have another question. Why did the epedemic increase in the respiratory ilnesses COPD and ashma suddenly appear at the same time the 'contrails' did, and why are so many more people dying of respiratory failure?
Why were there almost no 'persistent contrails' in the years preceeding 1990?
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Here's something that I don't get. There are claims that the chemtrails are toxic. I find one glaring problem with that assumption, ever heard of the canary in the coal mine? Think about it

Have you not noticed the lose of insects and birds? Cancer rates are off the chart. You are not paying attention.
 Quoting: DarkStarCrashes 352601

I have noticed a loss of spiders. I believe that it might be because they eat their own web after it has collected a lethal dose of the chemtrail poison.
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Here's something that I don't get. There are claims that the chemtrails are toxic. I find one glaring problem with that assumption, ever heard of the canary in the coal mine? Think about it

Have you not noticed the lose of insects and birds? Cancer rates are off the chart. You are not paying attention.


No,the only insect in decline here is the European honey bee brought about buy a mite infestation. Birds here are plentyfull, and as far as cancer goes I thought I read the rates were dropping in the US. I'll have to check into that.

I pay plenty attention.


No, you really don't pay plenty attention.

Here's a link from TIME Magazine showing breast cancer rates increasing rapidly, not only in the US and western nations, but worldwide:

[link to www.time.com]


Childhood cancers, prostate cancer, brain cancer and other cancers are on the rise:

[link to www.chemicalindustryarchives.org]


Yes , I do pay plenty attention. Just cause you read some stats about breast cancer don't mean shit about your fairy tale Chemtrails.

Who is to fucking gain by spraying posion from jets? How can they keep from getting posioned too. Really, if there was posion being sprayed at the rates you chemtards rave about the planet would be a fucking empty shell, devoid of all life.

But then again maybe it is true but it just makes people stupid....that I can beleive!

I can't wait till I see the next contrail..I mean chemtrail. I can run in to post on GLP.....THERE SPRAYING STUPID JUICE AGAIN STAY INDOORS...OH SHIT TOO LATE. rant


Well...you were WRONG about the cancer rates, what makes you think you are right about the rest of it, "Mr. Paying Attention"?????

Sad for you.


LOL what the fuck are you on man. I never said anything one way or the other about the cancer rates being right or wrong. I said "I'll have to check into it".

If you beleive your own words about this subject, how could you ever leave your house?
 Quoting: wtf X 4 341528



"and as far as cancer goes I thought I read the rates were dropping in the US. I'll have to check into that."


You 'thought wrong', Mr. Paying Attention, because the cancer rates are going UP.

Reading comprehension skills are apparently not your forte.
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Here's something that I don't get. There are claims that the chemtrails are toxic. I find one glaring problem with that assumption, ever heard of the canary in the coal mine? Think about it

Have you not noticed the lose of insects and birds? Cancer rates are off the chart. You are not paying attention.


No,the only insect in decline here is the European honey bee brought about buy a mite infestation. Birds here are plentyfull, and as far as cancer goes I thought I read the rates were dropping in the US. I'll have to check into that.

I pay plenty attention.


No, you really don't pay plenty attention.

Here's a link from TIME Magazine showing breast cancer rates increasing rapidly, not only in the US and western nations, but worldwide:

[link to www.time.com]


Childhood cancers, prostate cancer, brain cancer and other cancers are on the rise:

[link to www.chemicalindustryarchives.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 352771

I DO find it rather odd that there is an anonymous organization here in TN that is paying for my wifes breast cancer treatment. Think it's government covering for chemtrail cancer?
The Guy

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have a few questions for 'shills'.
Why did the epedemic increase in the respiratory ilnesses COPD and ashma suddenly appear at the same time the 'contrails' did, and why are so many more people dying of respiratory failure?
 Quoting: idw 352791


It was a combination of advancements in medical technology, and increase in the greed of pharmaceutical companies.

Why were there almost no 'persistent contrails' in the years preceeding 1990?
 Quoting: idw 352791


There were:
[link to contrailscience.com]
[link to contrailscience.com]
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Where's all the debunkers ???

How could anyone debunk this? I wish to God I really knew why this is happening. I can tell you one thing, I make sure and stay in as much as possible on days with heavy spraying.It HOPEFULLY helps a little.

I agree. I'm afraid of sending my child to school because of them...much less working and paying taxes which support the chemtrail spraying. In fact, it's because of chemtrails that I am looking to move out of the US.
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Take me with you



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[link to www.time.com]


Childhood cancers, prostate cancer, brain cancer and other cancers are on the rise:

[link to www.chemicalindustryarchives.org]

I DO find it rather odd that there is an anonymous organization here in TN that is paying for my wifes breast cancer treatment. Think it's government covering for chemtrail cancer?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 104455


Sorry to hear about your wife's breast cancer, she has my best wishes for a speedy recovery.

If you have an 'anonymous' organization paying for her cancer treatment you are very lucky, at least in that regard.

I highly doubt it is the govmnt paying for it.
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[link to www.time.com]


Childhood cancers, prostate cancer, brain cancer and other cancers are on the rise:

[link to www.chemicalindustryarchives.org]

I DO find it rather odd that there is an anonymous organization here in TN that is paying for my wifes breast cancer treatment. Think it's government covering for chemtrail cancer?


Sorry to hear about your wife's breast cancer, she has my best wishes for a speedy recovery.

If you have an 'anonymous' organization paying for her cancer treatment you are very lucky, at least in that regard.

I highly doubt it is the govmnt paying for it.
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Thank you. It (was) through the health department but was referred to a hospital. The bill is paid by a PO Box number (we get a duplicate/filing).
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I'll try this again. I have posted these questions several times but get no answer.

1. Who is doing the spraying?
Jet aircraft that have received the proper clearances for flying over U.S. territory

2. Why are "they" spraying?
That's what we would like to know.

3. What are "they" spraying?
Ibid.
4. Who benifits from the spraying?
Ibid.

5. What do "they" gain from spraying?
Ibid.

6. How do "they" avoid the adverse affects of the spraying?
 Quoting: one more time 341528

They do not live in the U.S. They live in Antigua, Dubai, Singapore, Taiwan, etc.
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But where are those photos of "naturally occuring" contrails from years ago?
tick tock
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Yep, we oldsters remember. No CT's until the mid-nineties or so.

HOW TO STOP CHEMTRAILS
[link to unveiling.18.forumer.com]

It's easy, and it works. We've not had any here, other than a few weak attempts, for nearly two years...
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~I can attest to the fact that the Chemtrails have been extraordinarily HEAVY the past few days...
and also I had a weird piercing headache,
and I was having a hard time focusing too,
as if it was being caused by some kind of frequency manipulation,
also my cats were going bonkers, restless hyper, etc....
TPTB were definitely up to something,
and Respect for Nature was not part of it.


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have a few questions for 'shills'.

I have been documenting arial obscuration photographically since 1999, using a digital camera from a specific location and time of day. I went out each day at noon and took four photographs, facing north, south , East and West and an angle of 15 degrees from the horizon.

A definite correlating pattern began to show up. During the solar maximum, "chemtrailing" was intense and covered the sky with 'condensation trails', especially during periods of high solar activity.
Now , with solar activity being so low and the solar minimum bottoming out,the count is usually zero, but sometimes as high as three of four sumulataneous trails. There is NEVER a resulting cloud cover, like during the solar maximum.
During the solar maximum there were as many as ten aircraft visable at one time , always the same white unmarked aircraft, and trails crossed the skies and spread out until the sky was totally obscured. Wierd storms sometimes accompanied these operations, and there was a look of 'unrealness' to the sky (sundogs were an almost daily ocurance, for instance).
Also, I have another question. Why did the epedemic increase in the respiratory ilnesses COPD and ashma suddenly appear at the same time the 'contrails' did, and why are so many more people dying of respiratory failure?
Why were there almost no 'persistent contrails' in the years preceeding 1990?
 Quoting: idw 352791

How do you spell ridiculous?
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[link to i213.photobucket.com]

When you see Chemtrails, it's obvious. They are commonly seen in patterns of "X" or "tic-tac-toe", parallel lines and random etches. Normal air traffic follows set and rigid air flight paths and do not fly where they feel like it in repeat, tight patterns. The lines can reach from horizon to horizon or be confined to a specific section of sky. Also commonly reported is the eventual oily "airport smell" , a 'metallic' smell or the smell of chemicals. This was two reasons people noticed them, but the main reason is that they are making people sick. Chances are if you see spraying in your area, you will be sick the next day or possibly within hours. You know those times, out of nowhere, you got a sore throat, or felt like you had the flu, or woke up in the morning feeling all stuffed up and achy? I bet if you had looked at the sky the previous day, you'd have seen Chems. The symptoms of "Chem-illness" include sore throat, "flu-like" feeling, diarrhea, itchy eyes, abdominal pain, joint aches and pain, headaches, fatigue and respiratory illnesses; upper respiratory and blood infections, severe asthma attacks, dizziness, inability to 'get a deep breath". People report symptoms lasting for as long as several months.
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Sorry if I don't seem to fit in here, but I accidently ran across this thread. I'm a research scientist and was actually involved in certain aspects of the SDP (Stratospheric Discharge Project) approximately 15 years ago, when working on a different project for NASA at one of their sites in Nevada.

There are actually no chemicals "put into" the jet fuel, furthermore, any analysis of the fuel will show negative for any of the materials many of you suspect. The active ingredient is a merely a psychotropic compound that is intended to relieve anxiety in the general population. The hydrocarbons used in the jet fuel are chosen for their secondary reactions which occur during the combustion process, from which the psychotropic compound recombines. The compound is literally manufactured within the jet engines themselves.

Many of you seem to think that pilots turn the process on and off, this is false, the pilots do not even know about the process, nor does the airlines. The hydrocarbon configuration for the recombinant process is all performed at the jet fuel refineries by subcontractors to the Federal government, which in fact are regarded merely as inspectors by the refinery people.

The whole process is quite simple, and is generally regarded as being successful, although I never did question the philosophy of the project. I hope this clears up some of the mystery and rancor.
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Sorry if I don't seem to fit in here, but I accidently ran across this thread. I'm a research scientist and was actually involved in certain aspects of the SDP (Stratospheric Discharge Project) approximately 15 years ago, when working on a different project for NASA at one of their sites in Nevada.

There are actually no chemicals "put into" the jet fuel, furthermore, any analysis of the fuel will show negative for any of the materials many of you suspect. The active ingredient is a merely a psychotropic compound that is intended to relieve anxiety in the general population. The hydrocarbons used in the jet fuel are chosen for their secondary reactions which occur during the combustion process, from which the psychotropic compound recombines. The compound is literally manufactured within the jet engines themselves.

Many of you seem to think that pilots turn the process on and off, this is false, the pilots do not even know about the process, nor does the airlines. The hydrocarbon configuration for the recombinant process is all performed at the jet fuel refineries by subcontractors to the Federal government, which in fact are regarded merely as inspectors by the refinery people.

The whole process is quite simple, and is generally regarded as being successful, although I never did question the philosophy of the project. I hope this clears up some of the mystery and rancor.
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o rly
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Sorry if I don't seem to fit in here, but I accidently ran across this thread. I'm a research scientist and was actually involved in certain aspects of the SDP (Stratospheric Discharge Project) approximately 15 years ago, when working on a different project for NASA at one of their sites in Nevada.

There are actually no chemicals "put into" the jet fuel, furthermore, any analysis of the fuel will show negative for any of the materials many of you suspect. The active ingredient is a merely a psychotropic compound that is intended to relieve anxiety in the general population. The hydrocarbons used in the jet fuel are chosen for their secondary reactions which occur during the combustion process, from which the psychotropic compound recombines. The compound is literally manufactured within the jet engines themselves.

Many of you seem to think that pilots turn the process on and off, this is false, the pilots do not even know about the process, nor does the airlines. The hydrocarbon configuration for the recombinant process is all performed at the jet fuel refineries by subcontractors to the Federal government, which in fact are regarded merely as inspectors by the refinery people.

The whole process is quite simple, and is generally regarded as being successful, although I never did question the philosophy of the project. I hope this clears up some of the mystery and rancor.
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Well, that explains a lot!
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We can be distracted by arguments that go on indefinitely about the existence of CT's. OR, we can act to eliminate them.

[link to unveiling.18.forumer.com]
That whole winter of 2005 I did a "clearing" every night. We had lots of rain and snow, breaking the drought. Streams that had been dry for years ran clear and full. So, perhaps the clearing work caused the rain.
[link to unveiling.18.forumer.com]

Check out this video on Wilhelm Reich; he'd discovered the reasons for drought in Tuscon, and, for his efforts, was thrown in prison and murdered:
[link to video.google.co.uk]
"We shall no longer hang on to the tails of public opinion, or to a non-existent authority, on matters utterly unknown and strange. We shall gradually become experts ourselves in the mastery of the knowledge of the future." ~ Wilhelm Reich
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HOW TO STOP CHEMTRAILS

As I wrote, we've not had any to speak of here for nearly two years. Our skies used to be covered with CT's.

[link to unveiling.18.forumer.com]
QUOTE
The white light is what I use most of the time. The physical heart, being a mobius, produces a huge scalar energy. See [link to www.insightdirectory.com]

I don't so much visualize, as "feel," a burst of white light coming from my heart chakra and directed by my ring finger. Obviously, it works. You don't have to put out a lot. Just thinking it does the trick, and a micro-burst is all that's needed.

Know that what you are doing is effective. You don't have to put a lot of effort into it, similar to blessing the dawn water; you just do it, and that's that.

Speaking of thinking, we got some HAARP clouds yesterday. I didn't have my ring, but just idly thought, "Those have got to go!" By afternoon a new weather system came in with beautiful cumulus clouds and a fresh breeze. Gerry got some good pics of the sunset.

I was concerned that a person not operating in integrity could use this to actually make the situation worse, but such is not the case, so I've posted the method on three forums and will teach it, also. You cannot produce the rays from a low consciousness.

It's time we started to know what we can do. This particular excercise is good to bring about that awakening, because one gets instant, real-world feedback from the weather. Furthermore, anyone can do this; it requires no special abilities. If you have a beating heart and a heart chakram, you have the equipment. Hmm, that kind of leaves out the lizards, don't you think?

Folks have been so thoroughly brain-washed that it's really hard for them to believe that they have such power within themselves, and that the method of using it is so very easy and simple. Chalk that up to the long history of occultism and their smoke-and-mirrors game. That is, you have to study for years in a secret society and go through all kinds of initiation levels, etc., etc., not to mention the Church...

This changing of the HAARP frequencies most likely works by the white light, being purely positive, either negating the HAARP or modifying it. Or something else?

We're getting into what has been known as "Medicine" by the American Indians. The old medicine people weren't able to adapt their tribes to the onslaught of the whites, so maybe they didn't know as much as they thought (or no one listened to them); however, they were pretty good at working with natural forces. I've seen a modern-day medicine man stop the wind, then start it again.

We can do this! And it's easy. Got drought? Make it rain. Too much rain? Change to sunshine. High winds? Shut them down. Now, remember, as far as I understand, this "clearing" only works to negate artificial weather manipulation, and, I'm assuming that I'm affecting HAARP, due to the parallel clouds I see. I think that HAARP works, somehow, in conjunction with chemtrails, and also, is amplified, or whatever, from some installation on the moon. SNIP

Posted 9 May, 2005
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Apparently, this "clearing" work, done regularly, keeps the chemtrails from appearing. We haven't had any for a couple of months, and we're only 100 miles from Phoenix.

Nearly every night, when we go out to sky-watch, I do a clearing with the white ray, giving a certain area my full attention.

Last night, I cleared first with the white ray, then the blue from the throat and spoke to the weather devas, empowering them, asking for a little rain and thanking them. They "told" me that it had been a long time since anyone had even recognized that they existed. The old Indian medicine people did this all the time, and maybe that's why I see dead trunks of huge cedar trees here in this desolate rocky area. In the early 1800's, back before the whites came, this country must have had a lot more rain.

So, to repeat; clearing with the white light from the heart, using the Scarab Ring, may keep chemtrails from forming. This is an on-going experiment, with real-world feedback.

love,
lorae SNIP

Posted 4 June, 2005

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No chemtrails for a long time. Clear skies and fluffy clouds, the way it used to be. And the planes put out normal contrails. Amazing.

No rain either. I'm not giving up - I clear with the white ray every night.

love,
lorae


August 5, 2005
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Still no chemtrails for months. Nice gentle rains coming now.
So far, for the last three months, every time I've done a clearing, we've got rain, with the exception of today, when high winds were forecast. I did a clearing last night, paying special attention to the moon. Today, no wind, other than a nice breeze. SNIP

September, 2006: We've had no chemtrails here for months, other than two or three days, and then I "fixed" the problem at the portals where the CT's originate by whacking them with a combination of the white and violet rays .

It's so easy to solve that little problem, but folks have been heavily programmed to believe that they couldn't possibly affect something like that by themselves. The have to have the belief crutch of a cloudbuster or whatever. It's the old shopping and machine-world mentality: If you need to remedy a situation, go out and buy something as the remedy, don't even dream of doing it yourself, because "You're but a lowly, powerless human".

The "V" Formation of CT's:
[link to i18.photobucket.com]
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Got CT's? Look where they're originating: You'll often see a "V" shape, and the point of the "V" is usually on the horizon. That's the portal where they're coming into our dimension, and because that's so, it's extremely easy for any of us to bolux-up the open portal using the good ol’ “ray” routine.

See [link to unveiling.18.forumer.com]

Nothing to it. Try it, you'll see the results. If, later, you notice one or two stragglers, repeat the procedure. It takes only a few seconds of focused energy and your skies will be clear for months. Pretty elegant and efficient, I'd say.

This from my post of 17 March 2006 on a private forum, which I had originally intended to never publish, but I've found that I don't work all that well remotely, so I'll have to teach folks how to clear their own areas, hence this appendix.

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OK, this is how my reasoning went: If I can prevent them from laying CT's by my little clearing routine, then it's possible that they are from another dimension. Also, if you "look", those "planes" seem to be robotic, with no human pilots. Not to say that there isn't a connection to the HAARP lines of energy on the ground, however.

Next, usually they originate from a single point on the horizon, day-after-day.

Conclusion: They are coming into our reality from another dimension, through the old portal routine. Right in front of our eyes, in plain sight. That's why folks have seen them all over the world. Back and forth, back and forth, on and on.
Notice that the spew-planes make no sound, nor do they have lights at night.

So, this morning, with the help of a very perspicacious friend who belongs to this forum but so far hasn't posted, we began looking. He "saw" some portals, but couldn't pinpoint where they were. I told him that that was good enough to get a bead on them.

He also got a long "download", rather technical, about the mechanics of it all: Apparently, our bad boys have had some help or reverse-engineering to build devices that open these portals.

Now you know that I've been focusing on natural earth portals since the early 90's, putting big crystals or HHG's on precise vortexes and doing a little ceremony for Earth Healing.
see [link to unveiling.18.forumer.com]

Turns out that that really messes them (our opponents) up; it changes the frequency or modulation of the number system being used at that portal.

They do eventually get functioning again, but it takes them ever-so-long. (Hmm. I'm thinking of the base-12 system. What's with that? Most natural portals have a certain number system working at that place. As best I understand, a "number system" is similar to various number systems written of in our mathematics, including imaginary numbers.) So, I'm assuming that all I have to do is connect with my little trinkets already in place and change the frequencies a bit, also, to program them to change frequencies constantly. I'll ask for some help here. Over the years, I've left presents at many, many major natural vortices here in the American West.

And, using gizmos on this side, they can created artificial openings not on natural vortices for what you might call the CT Demons to enter. It's pretty jerry-rigged and easy for us to muck up, simply by putting them "out-of-phase". There are many adjustments that they fiddle with... I'm wondering if the mechanism on the other side is equally as shaky?

It's a Work-in-Progress so far; I'm going out the the hills to my Sacred Ground

[link to unveiling.18.forumer.com]
(My “Sacred Ground”:
It’s best to work from a place away from houses and powerlines. I go out to a place I call “Sacred Ground” which is at the top of a solid granite hill where I found ancient AmerIndian grinding holes. “The Grandmothers,” the spirits of the women who worked here, help me with my Earth-Clearing work. I was surprised the day they spoke to me. They are very peaceful, soft-spoken and much more slowed down than we moderns with our frantic “monkey minds.”

[link to i18.photobucket.com]
My "Sacred Ground" )

this twilight and fool around a bit with this and that. (No, I've not forgotten the idiots in Washington D.C.) If we're correct about this, we should get feedback as clear skies with no clearing work done. I'm aiming for permanent clear skies...

Tonight, no "clearing"; I'll work on local portals. We'll see how it goes. What's so nice about this particular work is that you get immediate feedback from the skies. Very nice.

love,
lorae



17 September, 2006

I no longer need the ring, but it’s good “training wheels" for beginners. I worked with the ring almost daily for over two years before I could manage without it.

Posted by Kin 21 March, 2006 on the Grail Forum:
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Your rays, etc, should now be at near to full strength! Make sure of it. Scarab ring is then virtually redundant, as you should be able to do it directly.

Verify that.

We are talking direct ray power in all frequencies of the order of 100 gigabovis, give or take. That's 100,000,000,000 bovis on a scale where the original powerwand or triniti packs around 300,000 bovis.

Just watch whom you point that thing at... biggrin.gif
END QUOTE


No chemtrails for months. Normal monsoon weather, lots of rain, no drought. I haven't done anything other than the little "CT Skirmish" since May.
see following reply on this thread or
[link to unveiling.18.forumer.com]

Posted by me 4 April 2005 on the Grail Forum:
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CT's (kind of skinny and weak-looking, but about 6 of them) and haze this morning. rain supposed to be on the way. Back to work for me...

I was reading old posts and saw this from Tris

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Further, he was seeded with AIMDEAMONTS which apparently are targeting alien invasion nodes that grow dendrites through their host organism, and then allow for remote targeting and switching. All his settings were set to 'dogmeat' and he died a 'natural death', meaning ... his organ systems and immune systems were shut down remotely and he could not resist this form of attack.


It's at: GrailZone / IN VITA / {Reserved Reading} / Battling Optimisations


Aha! " ALIEN INVASION NODES (portals) THAT GROW DENDRITES THROUGH THEIR HOST ORGANISM..." That's exactly what's going on! [That is, the Earth is being invaded by a kind of parasite.]



love,
lorae SNIP

Here’s some photos of orbs and me (freezing cold that night) while I’m doing a “clearing.”

I believe that the orbs are somehow related to intense focus.
[link to i18.photobucket.com]
[link to i18.photobucket.com]
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Confirmation; Lou was able to replicate this herself, second post in this thread:
[link to unveiling.18.forumer.com]

September 20, 2006
Up early to do the water thingy. Chemtrails being laid! Arghhh! First, I smacked the portal where they were coming in, probably White Sands. Every so often, "they" seem to get a portal repaired which requires some remedial attention from me.

Then I smacked each "plane" as it was laying a CT. They disappeared. See photos below. I send out some kind of blast from the center of my forehead, using my outstretched arm and first finger to "sight in". While doing this, "all systems on GO!", I could "see" an intense blue light coming from my sighting hand, out to about 1/4" - 1/2".

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[link to i18.photobucket.com]
CT's after being treated with "The Works". Notice the middle one kind of veered off course for a while before disappearing. (They don't disappear immediately so I have to hit them "right on" for about six seconds.)

user posted image
[link to i18.photobucket.com]
Notice the CT trail already beginning to break up.


[link to i18.photobucket.com]
Ct's almost gone.


See what we humans can do?


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I send out some kind of blast from the center of my forehead, using my outstretched arm and first finger to "sight in". While doing this, "all systems on GO!", I could "see" an intense blue light coming from my sighting hand, out to about 1/4" - 1/2".


Hmmm. Think of the old "Star Trek" shows: "Photon torpedos armed." Photons is probably right; RE: the blue light seen emanating from the hands. (above)

Try it! Two years ago I taught the hippies at the hot springs how to disappear CT's simply by sighting in with the outstretched arm and index finger, then imagining that they were sending a ray. Most of them could do it, and the feedback was instant.

From an old post of mine:
[link to groups.yahoo.com]

[link to www.lifetechnology.org]

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Human hands glow, but fingernails release the most light, according
to a recent study that found all parts of the hand emit detectable
levels of light.

The findings support prior research that suggested most living
things, including plants, release light. Since disease and illness
appear to affect the strength and pattern of the glow, the discovery
might lead to less-invasive ways of diagnosing patients.

Mitsuo Hiramatsu, a scientist at the Central Research Laboratory at
Hamamatsu Photonics in Japan, who led the research, told Discovery
News that the hands are not the only parts of the body that shine
light by releasing photons, or tiny, energized increments of light.

Not only the hands, but also the forehead and bottoms of our feet
emit photons," Hiramatsu said, and added that in terms of hands "the
presence of photons means that our hands are producing light all of
the time... END QUOTE


Sit in a hot springs, relax and change your focus a bit, then observe your hands and feet. You may see a blue/purple glow from them, especially the ends of the fingers and toes. This glow may extend out about 1/3 inch.

To me, the idea of eating raw foods seems to tie right into the concept of drinking the "Dawn Water" (see
[link to unveiling.18.forumer.com] )
to raise the frequencies of the cells of the body towards that of pure light.

The following quote on raw food and light is from here:
[link to www.lifetechnology.org]
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Biophotons and Food

Another important aspect of raw foods is the energetic aspect. Without light there is no health. We are human photocells whose ultimate biological nutrient is sunlight.
Dr. Johanna Budwig from Germany has stated that live foods are electron rich and act as high-powered electron donors and as solar resonance fields in the body to attract, store, and conduct the sun's energy in our body. The greater your store of light energy, the greater the power our overall electromagnetic field, and consequently the more energy is available for healing and the maintenance of optimal health.

What Are Biophotons?

Biophotons are characterized by an extremely high degree of order and can be described as a type of biological laser light which is capable of interference and appears to be responsible for many effects which ordinary incoherent light could not achieve.

Its high coherency lends the biophoton wave the capability of creating order and transmitting information while chaotic, incoherent light simply transmits energy.
There are clear experimental indications that biophotons have an important regulating function not only within single cells, but also between your cells as a network.

It is probable that you are influenced by a coherent biophoton field, which regulates functions on various levels of biological control and organization. Single cells seem to communicate with one another with the aid of the biophoton field by creating continuous waves.

The biophoton field is likely a rigidly structured field of information and regulation that coordinates your individual cellular function in a holographic manner at the speed of light and coordinates their function with one another.

There is a broad spectrum of various frequencies and polarization and therefore, a very high density of information. According to current developments in research, the biophoton wave is emitted from the chromatin of your cell nucleus.

Calculations show that the helix form of the DNA molecule exhibits the ideal geometric form of a hollow resonator, which allows it to store light very effectively.
Does Food Have 'Vitality' And Can We Absorb Its Life-Force?

Of particular interest is the technique of counting photon emissions. Every living organism emits biophotons or low-level luminescence (light with a wavelength between 200 and 800 nanometers).

This light energy is thought to be stored in the DNA during photosynthesis and is transmitted continuously by the cell.

This is where the stored light energy in food becomes so essential. Naturally grown fresh vegetables, for example, and sun-ripened fruits are rich in light energy. The capacity to store biophotons is therefore a measure of the quality of our food.
Stored sun energy finds its way into your cells though food in the form of minute particles of light. These light particles are called 'biophotons', which are the smallest physical units of light.

These biophotons contain important information, which controls complex vital processes in your body. The biophotons have the power to order and regulate, and, in doing so, to elevate the organism to a higher oscillation or order. This is manifested as a feeling of vitality and well-being. SNIP END QUOTE
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review these pics taken Jan 10 around 8:30-9:00 am EST. West of Pittsburgh PA.

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~I can attest to the fact that the Chemtrails have been extraordinarily HEAVY the past few days...
and also I had a weird piercing headache,
and I was having a hard time focusing too,
as if it was being caused by some kind of frequency manipulation,
also my cats were going bonkers, restless hyper, etc....
TPTB were definitely up to something,
and Respect for Nature was not part of it.


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similar stuff for me on the west coast.

Dig deep down into your reserves of strength. Get your body as an ally. Support it with health and kindness in the next few days... take care.
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Sorry if I don't seem to fit in here, but I accidently ran across this thread. I'm a research scientist and was actually involved in certain aspects of the SDP (Stratospheric Discharge Project) approximately 15 years ago, when working on a different project for NASA at one of their sites in Nevada.

There are actually no chemicals "put into" the jet fuel, furthermore, any analysis of the fuel will show negative for any of the materials many of you suspect. The active ingredient is a merely a psychotropic compound that is intended to relieve anxiety in the general population. The hydrocarbons used in the jet fuel are chosen for their secondary reactions which occur during the combustion process, from which the psychotropic compound recombines. The compound is literally manufactured within the jet engines themselves.

Many of you seem to think that pilots turn the process on and off, this is false, the pilots do not even know about the process, nor does the airlines. The hydrocarbon configuration for the recombinant process is all performed at the jet fuel refineries by subcontractors to the Federal government, which in fact are regarded merely as inspectors by the refinery people.

The whole process is quite simple, and is generally regarded as being successful, although I never did question the philosophy of the project. I hope this clears up some of the mystery and rancor.
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This has got to be one of the most incredible posts I've seen at GLP - and that's saying something...

According to you, the aerosols coming out of the jets have a PSYCHOTROPIC compound to "relieve anxiety" (in other words make people DOCILE)...

The "whole process is regarded as successful" and YOU "never questioned the philosophy of the project".

AND YOU HOPE THIS CLEARS UP THE MYSTERY AND RANCOR?!

Now I know how the Nazis did what they did...

If what you are saying is true, you have no soul.

If you are just trolling us with disinfo and lies, you still have no soul.
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Chemtrails are holographic images. Based on the WTC planes holographic technology (only more advanced now).
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Here's something that I don't get. There are claims that the chemtrails are toxic. I find one glaring problem with that assumption, ever heard of the canary in the coal mine? Think about it

Have you not noticed the lose of insects and birds? Cancer rates are off the chart. You are not paying attention.


No,the only insect in decline here is the European honey bee brought about buy a mite infestation. Birds here are plentyfull, and as far as cancer goes I thought I read the rates were dropping in the US. I'll have to check into that.

I pay plenty attention.


No, you really don't pay plenty attention.

Here's a link from TIME Magazine showing breast cancer rates increasing rapidly, not only in the US and western nations, but worldwide:

[link to www.time.com]


Childhood cancers, prostate cancer, brain cancer and other cancers are on the rise:

[link to www.chemicalindustryarchives.org]


Yes , I do pay plenty attention. Just cause you read some stats about breast cancer don't mean shit about your fairy tale Chemtrails.

Who is to fucking gain by spraying posion from jets? How can they keep from getting posioned too. Really, if there was posion being sprayed at the rates you chemtards rave about the planet would be a fucking empty shell, devoid of all life.

But then again maybe it is true but it just makes people stupid....that I can beleive!

I can't wait till I see the next contrail..I mean chemtrail. I can run in to post on GLP.....THERE SPRAYING STUPID JUICE AGAIN STAY INDOORS...OH SHIT TOO LATE. rant


Well...you were WRONG about the cancer rates, what makes you think you are right about the rest of it, "Mr. Paying Attention"?????

Sad for you.


LOL what the fuck are you on man. I never said anything one way or the other about the cancer rates being right or wrong. I said "I'll have to check into it".

If you beleive your own words about this subject, how could you ever leave your house?



"and as far as cancer goes I thought I read the rates were dropping in the US. I'll have to check into that."


You 'thought wrong', Mr. Paying Attention, because the cancer rates are going UP.

Reading comprehension skills are apparently not your forte.
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When your the author, it's very hard to comprehend. Babbel on fool.





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