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Replace Zarathustra's Rope with the Cross of the Christ, and you will find yourself on a firm, unshakeable bridge

 
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Replace Zarathustra's Rope with the Cross of the Christ, and you will find yourself on a firm, unshakeable bridge
"'Man is a rope,' Zarathustra cries out to the crowd, 'fastened between animal and Superman – a rope over an abyss.' — Friedrich Nietzsche, Thus Spoke Zarathustra

'If you stare too long into the abyss, then it stares back at you.' — Friedrich Nietzsche, Beyond Good and Evil

I read a lot of Nietzsche in college. While it has been years since I last picked up one of his works, I’ve been reflecting on his image of the abyss lately, following several 'red pill' moments in the world and the Church that left me questioning whether there is any institution left worth trusting, if there is any firm ground left to stand upon. Can it be that every governmental, health, corporate, and mainstream media institution around the world is conspiring to withhold inexpensive life saving treatments, falsify injury and death statistics, push gravely dishonest narratives, and even forcibly quarantine, vaccinate, or kill people in order to support the radical population control agenda of a secular Freemasonic world order? Check. Can it be that we have a hierarchy whose values and priorities are more aligned with those of this same Freemasonic order than those of Christ? Possibly. Probably. Yes, unfortunately.

It’s one thing to red pill. It’s another to black pill. Black pill is both a type of red pill as well as one’s response to it: A red pill gone hopelessly bleak, leading one to despair. To use Nietzsche’s image, the black pilled are staring face-first into the abyss, and they don’t see any way out.

For those of us who have been taking our red pills in stride, I think the black pill is the sudden realization that persecution is here — not just for the tallest blade of grass, but for all blades that refuse to kowtow to this evil agenda. The COVID shot is the global litmus test for compliance, and friends, family, co-workers, and even Church leaders have been weaponized against one another. Do you want to keep your social status, your job, and the ability to travel, attend school, worship at church, purchase food, and more? If so, just get a little jab. If not, you will have to suffer. Perhaps horribly. It is a sobering realization — and one that has caused many to capitulate, even – sadly – within traditional Catholic circles.

How can we steel ourselves against the depths of this abyss? How can we cross over in faith, hope, and charity, without succumbing to depression and resignation?

The answer (no surprise) is to cling even more tightly to Jesus Christ. Do not be like the tight-rope walker in Zarathustra who attempts to cross over the abyss on his own, loses balance, and falls. This sounds like obvious advice, but crisis has a way of kicking our sense of self-sufficiency into high gear against our better judgement. Replace the rope with the Cross of Christ, and you will find yourself on a firm, unshakeable bridge..." [less than 50%]

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Re: Replace Zarathustra's Rope with the Cross of the Christ, and you will find yourself on a firm, unshakeable bridge
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“Zarathustra” is the same exact gematria in the 4 base English cyphers as “murder Jesus”.
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"'Man is a rope,' Zarathustra cries out to the crowd, 'fastened between animal and Superman – a rope over an abyss.' — Friedrich Nietzsche, Thus Spoke Zarathustra

'If you stare too long into the abyss, then it stares back at you.' — Friedrich Nietzsche, Beyond Good and Evil

I read a lot of Nietzsche in college. While it has been years since I last picked up one of his works, I’ve been reflecting on his image of the abyss lately, following several 'red pill' moments in the world and the Church that left me questioning whether there is any institution left worth trusting, if there is any firm ground left to stand upon. Can it be that every governmental, health, corporate, and mainstream media institution around the world is conspiring to withhold inexpensive life saving treatments, falsify injury and death statistics, push gravely dishonest narratives, and even forcibly quarantine, vaccinate, or kill people in order to support the radical population control agenda of a secular Freemasonic world order? Check. Can it be that we have a hierarchy whose values and priorities are more aligned with those of this same Freemasonic order than those of Christ? Possibly. Probably. Yes, unfortunately.

It’s one thing to red pill. It’s another to black pill. Black pill is both a type of red pill as well as one’s response to it: A red pill gone hopelessly bleak, leading one to despair. To use Nietzsche’s image, the black pilled are staring face-first into the abyss, and they don’t see any way out.

For those of us who have been taking our red pills in stride, I think the black pill is the sudden realization that persecution is here — not just for the tallest blade of grass, but for all blades that refuse to kowtow to this evil agenda. The COVID shot is the global litmus test for compliance, and friends, family, co-workers, and even Church leaders have been weaponized against one another. Do you want to keep your social status, your job, and the ability to travel, attend school, worship at church, purchase food, and more? If so, just get a little jab. If not, you will have to suffer. Perhaps horribly. It is a sobering realization — and one that has caused many to capitulate, even – sadly – within traditional Catholic circles.

How can we steel ourselves against the depths of this abyss? How can we cross over in faith, hope, and charity, without succumbing to depression and resignation?

The answer (no surprise) is to cling even more tightly to Jesus Christ. Do not be like the tight-rope walker in Zarathustra who attempts to cross over the abyss on his own, loses balance, and falls. This sounds like obvious advice, but crisis has a way of kicking our sense of self-sufficiency into high gear against our better judgement. Replace the rope with the Cross of Christ, and you will find yourself on a firm, unshakeable bridge..." [less than 50%]

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Friedrich Nietzsche was a nihilistic nutjob, and "Thus Spake Zarathustra" was not worth the paper it was printed on.
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I’ve been thinking about this greatly myself, and unfortunately every institution including the Catholic Church is hopelessly corrupt. Evil has penetrated and rotted out everything to the point only scattered individuals remain good and just.

I don’t trust anything anymore as a result. How can anyone when they bold face lie to us daily?
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I used to have a crystalball, lovely large one it was, I kept it on the mantelpiece. one day a girlfriend screamed out to me some one was looking inn through it. I saw a grey being looking at us via the ball. I covered it with a velvet cloth after that. hf
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God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers? What was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our knives: who will wipe this blood off us? What water is there for us to clean ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we have to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we ourselves not become gods simply to appear worthy of it?


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Sounds like a great guy……..
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Nietzsche is dead
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I'd rather have a rope than a cross though.
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Re: Replace Zarathustra's Rope with the Cross of the Christ, and you will find yourself on a firm, unshakeable bridge
A most excellent post. Full of wisdom. Christ asked if He would find Faith on earth when He came back. Hold on tight, because we are not strong enough to withstand this without Him. Glory be to Jesus Christ!

P.S. For Catholics, the fall of the institutional Church is a great scandal to overcome. Years ago Malachi Martin opined that he thought God might be done with the institutional Church. At the time his words were incomprehensible to me. Now they give me solace.
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Thanks bro I appreciate it and it's helping already!! We just have to remember who we are and what we're up against.
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This must be the biggest bullshit I've ever read in this forum. To you the "rope" seems to be a tightrope as you're clearly overtly obsessive over the abyss, which is a whole another concept. The rope between animal and superhuman has always been likened more to a bridge than a tightrope. The abyss gazing back at you refers to dealing with so-called monsters and the danger of overcoming them, becoming them.

The rope between an animal and overman/superman refers to the Übermensch concept, in which man is either able to overcome one's animal sides/weaknesses and becoming a better and truer version of oneself, or by losing oneself to weaknesses one loses humanity and becomes more of an animal. It's a concept of renouncing and denouncing, of ascension and descent, of transcendence and decadence, winning or losing, up or down.

“What is great in man is that he is a bridge and not a goal: what is lovable in man is that he is an over-going and a down-going." - Thus spoke Zarathustra

It's one thing to read books than to really understand them, especially Nietzsche, but don't worry, it's never easy to understand a mindset of a mental prodigy. To understand a madman, you'd have to have - a madman in yourself!

Be that as it may, your confusion begs to be cleared. Your "solution" of clinging to Christ is the most laughable solution to anything, least of all how to confront the crises of our age! You call it an answer for succumbing to depression and resignation, but it is the greatest succumbing in itself! Your redemption looks like carrying a cross while strolling in a graveyard - over graves!

"He whom they call Saviour put them in fetters:—
In fetters of false values and fatuous words! Oh, that some one would save them from their Saviour!"

"Better songs would they have to sing, for me to believe in their Saviour: more like saved ones would his disciples have to appear unto me!"

You'd merely cast away your responsibility towards yourself and others and all of life and take refuge from beyond all that makes sense! Instead of actually doing something and becoming part of a solution than the problem itself, you'd rather revel in pity and weakness like a pig in its own filth! Your wallowing doesn't make me angry, it's so absurd that it's merely amusing, more than watching any party animal doing any a trick!

You're trying so hard to appear to be deep by muddling your reason with different concepts so that no one can see the bottom of it. No wonder as it's merely a shallow puddle of mud in which you revel!

Haven't the workings and concepts of Nietzsche been wronged and misunderstood enough already, do you really insist of twisting his concepts into your own image? Rather than being a multicultural copycat, why not make something out of yourself? This I say unto you out of love, not spite.

Thank you for amusing me this morning, time to get back to work.

Oh and btw, your Link is Dead.
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why did this bitch OP delete my post?

this is why i trust neocon christians about as much as a real estate agent

they're dishonest as hell, deceitful as hell, they have a spirit of extreme censorship of truth
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Liar. I didn't delete your post.
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This must be the biggest bullshit I've ever read in this forum. To you the "rope" seems to be a tightrope as you're clearly overtly obsessive over the abyss, which is a whole another concept. The rope between animal and superhuman has always been likened more to a bridge than a tightrope. The abyss gazing back at you refers to dealing with so-called monsters and the danger of overcoming them, becoming them.

The rope between an animal and overman/superman refers to the Übermensch concept, in which man is either able to overcome one's animal sides/weaknesses and becoming a better and truer version of oneself, or by losing oneself to weaknesses one loses humanity and becomes more of an animal. It's a concept of renouncing and denouncing, of ascension and descent, of transcendence and decadence, winning or losing, up or down.

“What is great in man is that he is a bridge and not a goal: what is lovable in man is that he is an over-going and a down-going." - Thus spoke Zarathustra

It's one thing to read books than to really understand them, especially Nietzsche, but don't worry, it's never easy to understand a mindset of a mental prodigy. To understand a madman, you'd have to have - a madman in yourself!

Be that as it may, your confusion begs to be cleared. Your "solution" of clinging to Christ is the most laughable solution to anything, least of all how to confront the crises of our age! You call it an answer for succumbing to depression and resignation, but it is the greatest succumbing in itself! Your redemption looks like carrying a cross while strolling in a graveyard - over graves!

"He whom they call Saviour put them in fetters:—
In fetters of false values and fatuous words! Oh, that some one would save them from their Saviour!"

"Better songs would they have to sing, for me to believe in their Saviour: more like saved ones would his disciples have to appear unto me!"

You'd merely cast away your responsibility towards yourself and others and all of life and take refuge from beyond all that makes sense! Instead of actually doing something and becoming part of a solution than the problem itself, you'd rather revel in pity and weakness like a pig in its own filth! Your wallowing doesn't make me angry, it's so absurd that it's merely amusing, more than watching any party animal doing any a trick!

You're trying so hard to appear to be deep by muddling your reason with different concepts so that no one can see the bottom of it. No wonder as it's merely a shallow puddle of mud in which you revel!

Haven't the workings and concepts of Nietzsche been wronged and misunderstood enough already, do you really insist of twisting his concepts into your own image? Rather than being a multicultural copycat, why not make something out of yourself? This I say unto you out of love, not spite.

Thank you for amusing me this morning, time to get back to work.

Oh and btw, your Link is Dead.
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Link works fine.

I'll take the good news of Jesus Christ over the optimism of Nietzsche and the pessimism of Schopenhauer.
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why did this bitch OP delete my post?

this is why i trust neocon christians about as much as a real estate agent

they're dishonest as hell, deceitful as hell, they have a spirit of extreme censorship of truth
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Its OP`s thread, and he can ban and delete whomever he likes and for any reason he sees fit..... Just suck it up and dont whinge.
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