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Man On His Porch Gets Agitated At Police For Pulling Into His Driveway, Tells Them To Leave, Gets Into Shootout

 
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... end of story



do the crime - do the time -
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Yup. I hope the cops do a LOT of time for all the crimes they committed here.

....end of story.


Lol asshole
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Had this been a rich person's home the police would have been stopped at the gate. End of all your stupid arguments
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He had ever right to and so do i
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Prove he was drunk.
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No

Only proves adrenaline in varying amounts gets released when approached by police on your own property..
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OH PLEASE .... this was a drunk driver - followed home by police ... because he was breaking the LAW

being "at home" doesn't give you the right to break the law - he was foolishly resisting arrest ... end of story



do the crime - do the time -
 Quoting: Shadow Dance


Not exactly.

"Police said officers received a call about a drunk driver and that the caller had followed the suspect home".

That's not the same as a trained cop pulling someone over on suspicion of DUI based on observation.

Anybody can call police to make a report on you, whether it's true or not.
 Quoting: Off Grid AZ


nontheless

“Clearly this is a man at his home being approached and accosted by law enforcement for reasons he can’t really understand. And he’s afraid,” attorney Justin Moore said.

Williams could be heard on the video saying, “I’m not getting on the ground… I’m not getting on the ground. This is my property.”

police came on his backyard and he didn't follow orders because muh private property, not exactly a reason to avoid the police because you're fucking affraid of them
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Was he under arrest? Was he being detained? Did the Police witness impaired driving or did they go off the hearsay report by concerned Karen?
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If the police did not actually observe him driving and he was home and not in the car, he is free and clear from any possibility of DUI charges obtaining a conviction, PERIOD.
Since the police did NOT have probable cause, the order to leave the property was entirely legal and they were obligated to obey it, BY LAW. The police do NOT have especial rights afforded them by "policy", this was clearly a felony trespassing, assault with a deadly weapon, attempted murder and criminal official oppression.

This is why we need an an independent prosecutor and grand jury to judge the guilt or innocence of police officers when they commit crimes.
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OH PLEASE .... this was a drunk driver - followed home by police ... because he was breaking the LAW

being "at home" doesn't give you the right to break the law - he was foolishly resisting arrest ... end of story



do the crime - do the time -
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Do you not have comprehension skills?

Quote "Police said officers received a call about a drunk driver and that the caller had followed the suspect home. Williams denied he was intoxicated."

Someone who disliked the man could have maliciously made the call.
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He had ever right to and so do i
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Judging by how those police officers behaved the whole community would be safer if his aim were better.
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One has to be a special kind of stupid to be holding someone at gunpoint while obstructing their view of you with a flashlight, because you’re scared by him exercising his 2nd Amendment right with a holstered firearm on his side, on his own property, and then fire a projectile at him. Natural human instinct will be to do exactly what he did: upholster his weapon, seek cover, and return fire.

Idiots and tyrants.
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And they shine those lights right in your eyes, its painful...I know.
That should be assault in itself.
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As soon as I saw the race I was sad that the cops weren't better shots.
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I just can’t take all this winning after 4 years of Trump
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He had ever right to and so do i
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Judging by how those police officers behaved the whole community would be safer if his aim were better.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80684024


Anyone who is paying attention would realize that cops are just as much slaves as they are and they are very afraid, agitated, and even stupid these days.

They would also realize that if it really is a stupid mistake and you are totally innocent, if you just go along with their stupidity in 99% of the cases they will eventually figure it out and let you go. Even if you have to suck up your pride and sit in the back of their car for an hour while they clear it up. They might not even apologize to you.

Boo frickin hoo. Do you really value your pride that much more than your life and the life of your wife standing behind you?

Might be better off shot then, teach you a lesson.
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the way OP twists this story - he should be working for the MSN ...

he wants us to believe that a man was innocently sitting on his front porch when the cops just randomly - for no reason, pulled into his dive way and started shooting at him
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the way OP twists this story - he should be working for the MSN ...

he wants us to believe that a man was innocently sitting on his front porch when the cops just randomly - for no reason, pulled into his dive way and started shooting at him
 Quoting: Shadow Dance


unless it was a white southern boy approached by cops in the same situation.
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OH PLEASE .... this was a drunk driver - followed home by police ... because he was breaking the LAW

being "at home" doesn't give you the right to break the law - he was foolishly resisting arrest ... end of story



do the crime - do the time -
 Quoting: Shadow Dance


Not exactly.

"Police said officers received a call about a drunk driver and that the caller had followed the suspect home".

That's not the same as a trained cop pulling someone over on suspicion of DUI based on observation.

Anybody can call police to make a report on you, whether it's true or not.
 Quoting: Off Grid AZ


nontheless

“Clearly this is a man at his home being approached and accosted by law enforcement for reasons he can’t really understand. And he’s afraid,” attorney Justin Moore said.

Williams could be heard on the video saying, “I’m not getting on the ground… I’m not getting on the ground. This is my property.”

police came on his backyard and he didn't follow orders because muh private property, not exactly a reason to avoid the police because you're fucking affraid of them
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Was he under arrest? Was he being detained? Did the Police witness impaired driving or did they go off the hearsay report by concerned Karen?
 Quoting: Copperhead


Or report by scorned ex girlfriend, ex wife that wants custody of the kids, or anyone else that might have a beef with you. Similarly, some people do what is called "Swatting", which has the same result - the victim getting shot up by the police.
Unjabbed and Off Grid
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When will the rest of you understand that forced integration with these nasty, ugly, defiant, perpetually anti-white , dangerous nuckin figgers IS NOT GOOD???
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White American here. You’re a disgrace.
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must have been the seal claps
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I;ve had this exactly same thing happen where police came to my door claiming someone took my license plate down after I drove like a maniac on the highway....but I had a son with a rifle backing me up and they got in their car and left. I just told them my truck had been nowhere.

My rifle was in my hands and I would have used it had they drew their weapons. In my state I am not required to retreat on my own property and armed persons trespassing who draw weapons have reached the legal parameters for lethal force being used in self defense. If you have told them to leave and they remain they are automatically guilty of felony trespassing in Texas if they draw weapons, and since they are armed with deadly weapons and have a reputations for using them unlawfully.
We've had several case in Texas where homeowners shot police and got a clean no bill from the GJ.

When they tried it on me, I just told them to leave my property and not to return without an arrest warrant and they havent ever been back since.

These are armed men with a reputation for killing people for nothing, of course you have a right to defend yourself.
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the way OP twists this story - he should be working for the MSN ...

he wants us to believe that a man was innocently sitting on his front porch when the cops just randomly - for no reason, pulled into his dive way and started shooting at him
 Quoting: Shadow Dance


The way I read it that is exactly what happened. Being armed on your own property and ordering police off our property is NOT an excuse for police to even put their hands near their guns, in fact with myself at this point that would be an unwise decision.
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He should have went in the house and made them get a warrant. Then you get bottleneck the fucking pricks!
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He had ever right to and so do i
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71743015


Judging by how those police officers behaved the whole community would be safer if his aim were better.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80684024


Anyone who is paying attention would realize that cops are just as much slaves as they are and they are very afraid, agitated, and even stupid these days.

They would also realize that if it really is a stupid mistake and you are totally innocent, if you just go along with their stupidity in 99% of the cases they will eventually figure it out and let you go. Even if you have to suck up your pride and sit in the back of their car for an hour while they clear it up. They might not even apologize to you.

Boo frickin hoo. Do you really value your pride that much more than your life and the life of your wife standing behind you?

Might be better off shot then, teach you a lesson.
 Quoting: Augmentalist


May your chains rest lightly on your wrists............
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Don't stand in the line of fire! You'll fucking lose!
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They shot at him first also.
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I pay attention to detail!
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I hope the burn the city down!
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I just can’t take all this winning after 4 years of Trump
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This is Chairman Biden's CCUSA now.
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He should have went in the house and made them get a warrant. Then you get bottleneck the fucking pricks!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80687256


What they do is beat on your door when you do that, hollering in a voice that is meant to be intimidating and embarrassing.
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He had ever right to and so do i
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71743015


Judging by how those police officers behaved the whole community would be safer if his aim were better.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80684024


Anyone who is paying attention would realize that cops are just as much slaves as they are and they are very afraid, agitated, and even stupid these days.

They would also realize that if it really is a stupid mistake and you are totally innocent, if you just go along with their stupidity in 99% of the cases they will eventually figure it out and let you go. Even if you have to suck up your pride and sit in the back of their car for an hour while they clear it up. They might not even apologize to you.

Boo frickin hoo. Do you really value your pride that much more than your life and the life of your wife standing behind you?

Might be better off shot then, teach you a lesson.
 Quoting: Augmentalist


May your chains rest lightly on your wrists............
 Quoting: Copperhead


Good Lord, ever heard of choosing the correct hill to die on?

Knowing which battle you have even a slight chance of winning as opposed to one you have NO chance?

You need to save that maxim for when it properly applies, it is a good one not to be bandied about for lesser cause.
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If the police did not actually observe him driving and he was home and not in the car, he is free and clear from any possibility of DUI charges obtaining a conviction, PERIOD.
Since the police did NOT have probable cause, the order to leave the property was entirely legal and they were obligated to obey it, BY LAW. The police do NOT have especial rights afforded them by "policy", this was clearly a felony trespassing, assault with a deadly weapon, attempted murder and criminal official oppression.

This is why we need an an independent prosecutor and grand jury to judge the guilt or innocence of police officers when they commit crimes.
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hesright
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He should have just gone inside, of course he had to run his stupid N***er mouth and get into a shootout.
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THat's all they are good for. I almost shot one the other day. He was a white N*gger though.





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