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GLP Prediction: There Will Be No FDA Approval Of MRNA Covid Vaxxes

 
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I like how these people somehow believe that FDA approval matters. It does not. It's not going to change people's minds. The FDA approves a lot of drugs that later on are proven to be very dangerous for some people. Nothing changes at the core of the problem, so nothing will change in the number of people who sign up to take it.
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you tryna trigger GLP effect or what?
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I already did that with my thread back on 7/24/21

Thread: If Government Wants to Mandate Vax, Why Aren't They Mandating Their Own Employees Get It?

3 days later Biden made his statement about mandated vax for federal government employees.

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I'm thinking of doing one of those vax cards and other than writing my name REDACTING everything with black marker.

Give the govt the same BULLCRAP they give us!
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I lean towards agreeing with the conclusion of the OP.

The FDA cannot both approve this monstrous vaccine and remain a credible entity afterwards.

But there are so many big players in the boat already. Our media, our disease control people, our politicians. None of them can be credible after this. When the jig is up so many heads have to roll.

But perhaps the FDA refusing to approve will be some cover for those already sinking on the covid ship. They may try to shift it back to personal responsibility and the people from their current communist approach. They will be able to say that everyone was told it was not approved and made their own choices to get it even though we all know they used threats and coercion on us.

The mandates I think will play huge on if the FDA approves or not. So far very few mandates have gone out in hard ways. They always leave some wiggle room so they could take the denial right and claim all chose to do it on their own. If they do hard mandates the FDA will have to approve it. If they do not ever hit the hard mandates they will likely not approve it and spin everything from there. Any who make hard mandates are screwed if it does not get approved afterwards. Though they have Biden in there as the perfect throw away guy to do the BS and then skip out the door to the nursing home.

It will interesting to watch for sure in any case. A lot hinges on if it is approved or not. But you gotta look at this and say what OP said...how could you ever possibly approve this fully? It is a disaster and a half.
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This could be correct. FDA refusing approval gives them an out in a situation where things are looking worse and worse for the vaxers. The vaccine does not protect and it causes side effects in many. FDA refusal allows them to back off -- at least of mandating the vaccine and forcing vaccine passports.
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It’s all political.

If they can disable Trump...they will OK the vax. If Trump is still a threat, they will turn on the vaccine, call Trump’s Warp Speed a failure, and deadly to millions of America. Then come out with a “better” “tested” vax and make it mandatory.
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Poor OP, really.



You can disagree as much as you want.



Everything that happened since January 2020 shows, without any doubt, that FDA will approve the "vaccines".



I think you are in denial phase...which is amazing, after 1 and a half year of laws and constitutions being thrashed by pretty much every single government.



Op is listening to what some politicians are SAYING. Op is listening to what CDC is saying.



Maybe Op should stop listening and start LOOKING at what actually HAPPENED.
 Quoting: deplorable recollector


Everything I have seen is what I have expected.

They are in full court push with Biden in office. They are trying to squeeze in everything HRC was supposed to have done by now combined with another 8 years agenda all collapsed into 4 short years with a near brain dead idiot as the leading face of it all.

Slow boiling frogs only works when you SLOW boil them. All of this is rapid, ill conceived and poorly managed.


The truth is, they don't have enough power to force the situation because their own house is divided. They divided their own house with fed gov vax mandate. They made that mistake because they're way behind on their timeline.

Macron and the French gov look weak as fuck right now.

Australian gov trying to roll hard on their people but Arab Springed themselves. AUS government is toast.

US gov, how strong can they look with a brain dead president that eats whatever shit is on his chin?

US gov will look weak as hell if they push mandate and fail miserably. And yes, they will fail because Americans do get pissed of eventually and can make protestors in France and Australia look tame compared to what truly pissed Americans can do.
 Quoting: Strate8



Your entire assumption is based on politics, and a weird conviction that "they" don't know what they are doing, and "their" survival is at stake if they force mandatory vaccination, because people will openly revolt.


What you fail to see, is that "they" WANT PEOPLE TO REVOLT, and the best way to do it is ... mandatory vaccination.


Now, the reason why "they" want us to revolt, is simple : to implement Martial Law, to collapse the economy, blaming the unvaxxxed "terrorists", in order to build a NEW society, fit for a NEW WORLD ORDER.


This what "they" WANT and, more importantly, NEED to happen : rebellion and Martial Law.



Without Martial Law, they can't build a new society, based on FEAR from authorities. Without Martial Law, they can't implement 100% control in the places they WANT this control, because it won't be everywhere.
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Your entire theory hinges on the fact that the fda actually does what its supposed to. It is and always has been the government funded public relations Department of big pharma and big agra. It has never ever been run by anyone not in the pocket of the big boys. It is there to convince you poison is safe and thats that. They test nothing, they do zero science, they “review” submissions from their daughters godfather on the board of the company where they made their money and rubber stamp it unless paid big bucks to do otherwise.
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The rest of the govt and media is already freaking out at the FDA to approve.




The only thing I could guess at looking at their stuff is they might be waiting for the data from kids under 12 and approve it across the spectrum.


I could only find one report from someone who has seen it and they are from Harvard. They said the data is good and were mad the FDA was dragging.



That is all I have been able to to find.
 Quoting: Uncle Gintel


I got a Harvard Connection too.
Place is a psych Op mill - and they most likely are in bed to profit from this (meaning Harvard) - they conveniently churn out unquestioned experts - but most of it is just show. Circle jerking on the narrative.
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Who cares if this piss jab suicide shot is "FDA approved" or not? MAKES NO DIFFERENCE. FDA and CDC are FRAUDS and naything they say or do is a FRAUD. Poison is poison, no one sane wants it. Whether or not a NWO commie agency of con-men and liars "approves" makes zero difference. FDA and CDC are CORRUPT NWO GARBAGE EUGENICS OPERATIONS RUN BY PSYCHOPATHS, totally worthless, just like the fake covid tests and this idiotic deadly shady suicide jab.
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Not only will they approve it, they are fast tracking the approvals for February 2022, coincidentally, just before most of the the midterm campaigns rev up. I predict a fall lockdown just in time to ruin another school year, and another ruined midterm election.

There are plenty of other deadly drugs still on the market killing people everyday, including Ibuprofen which shouldn't be on the shelves, it should be by prescription only. I'm shocked that most people do not know how deadly Ibuprofen is for some people. Few also know you must not take it on an empty stomach, some people could end up hospitalized after one tablet.

Are you aware there is a J&J sunscreen recall? No most people haven't heard, why? It would start to blow their credibility, and, it's the middle of the summer, they have to sell that stuff. I guarantee by end of August we will see more in the news about the J&J sunscreen recall!

This is a full blown Eugenics grab and they are positively gleeful and will keep killing until the worlds people fight back.
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Right here…


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I think you're right OP.
FDA credibility will be shot for a generation if they approve this poison shot
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There’s zero chance the FDA and CDC say “whoops we fucked up!” to 161 million Americans or whatever the number is supposed to be. They’ve gone too far with this sham already, and now have to double down. Vaccines will be approved.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5930939


This is what I think too. They have an agenda and will justify it at all costs.
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Poor OP, really.



You can disagree as much as you want.



Everything that happened since January 2020 shows, without any doubt, that FDA will approve the "vaccines".



I think you are in denial phase...which is amazing, after 1 and a half year of laws and constitutions being thrashed by pretty much every single government.



Op is listening to what some politicians are SAYING. Op is listening to what CDC is saying.



Maybe Op should stop listening and start LOOKING at what actually HAPPENED.
 Quoting: deplorable recollector


Everything I have seen is what I have expected.

They are in full court push with Biden in office. They are trying to squeeze in everything HRC was supposed to have done by now combined with another 8 years agenda all collapsed into 4 short years with a near brain dead idiot as the leading face of it all.

Slow boiling frogs only works when you SLOW boil them. All of this is rapid, ill conceived and poorly managed.


The truth is, they don't have enough power to force the situation because their own house is divided. They divided their own house with fed gov vax mandate. They made that mistake because they're way behind on their timeline.

Macron and the French gov look weak as fuck right now.

Australian gov trying to roll hard on their people but Arab Springed themselves. AUS government is toast.

US gov, how strong can they look with a brain dead president that eats whatever shit is on his chin?

US gov will look weak as hell if they push mandate and fail miserably. And yes, they will fail because Americans do get pissed of eventually and can make protestors in France and Australia look tame compared to what truly pissed Americans can do.
 Quoting: Strate8



Your entire assumption is based on politics, and a weird conviction that "they" don't know what they are doing, and "their" survival is at stake if they force mandatory vaccination, because people will openly revolt.


What you fail to see, is that "they" WANT PEOPLE TO REVOLT, and the best way to do it is ... mandatory vaccination.


Now, the reason why "they" want us to revolt, is simple : to implement Martial Law, to collapse the economy, blaming the unvaxxxed "terrorists", in order to build a NEW society, fit for a NEW WORLD ORDER.


This what "they" WANT and, more importantly, NEED to happen : rebellion and Martial Law.



Without Martial Law, they can't build a new society, based on FEAR from authorities. Without Martial Law, they can't implement 100% control in the places they WANT this control, because it won't be everywhere.
 Quoting: deplorable recollector


And finally, after every attempt to separate us, by ideologies, skin color, racism, religious hate, after everything, they desperately released this bioweapon to vaccinate us and provide one more tool to their war chest.
And it is a Silent War.tomato
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I agree, OP. I said this in another thread this morning. The current versions of the vaccines are already either ineffective against the current strain of COVID or lose effectiveness after 6 months or less. They would lose all remaining credibility if they approve these crappy vaccines when its already becoming obvious that they don't work.
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Poor OP, really.



You can disagree as much want



Maybe Op should stop listening and start LOOKING at what actually HAPPENED.
 Quoting: deplorable recollector


Everything I have seen is what I have expected.


The truth is, they don't have enough power to force the situation because their own house is divided. They divided their own house with fed gov vax mandate. They made that mistake because they're way behind on their timeline.
 Quoting: Strate8



Your entire assumption is based on politics, and a weird conviction that "they" don't know what they are doing, and "their" survival is at stake if they force mandatory vaccination, because people will openly revolt.


What you fail to see, is that "they" WANT PEOPLE TO REVOLT, and the best way to do it is ... mandatory vaccination.


Now, the reason why "they" want us to revolt, is simple : to implement Martial Law, to collapse the economy, blaming the unvaxxxed "terrorists", in order to build a NEW society, fit for a NEW WORLD ORDER.


This what "they" WANT and, more importantly, NEED to happen : rebellion and Martial Law.



Without Martial Law, they can't build a new society, based on FEAR from authorities. Without Martial Law, they can't implement 100% control in the places they WANT this control, because it won't be everywhere.
 Quoting: deplorable recollector



My assumption is based on reality, not politics

The truth that they will not admit is that, FDA approval or not, they do not have the "boots on the ground" strength to enforce the type of mandate they are threatening.

Martial law???

Bullshit. Many in our military are against forced vax. Many federal workers are against forced vax.

It's a fools errand for them to push a situation like that with their very own house divided.

The only way for them to de-escalate the situation is for FDA to withhold approval. It gives everyone involved an out.

They can maintain what was done previously was under unprecedented emergency situation and since that time they have found better treatment options.

Pfizer still makes their money because everyone signed a contract to pay for the vaxxed whether they were used or not.

Still disappointingly short of what they wanted, but the alternative to continue down their same path against far greater (and healthier) opposition than they expected.

My assumption is fucking reality.

I know alot of the police in my area. None of them support forced vaxxed, will not be part of the goons forcing it and 2 told me to call them if someone shows up at my door.

Things will be better or worse depending on where you live, but I live in Texas and forced vax will not be happening here no matter what politicians say.

Their bluff has been fucking called in places. Where they have chosen to escalate (France, Australia) they are about to lose on the ground.

FDA withholding approval so they can adjust their course is the only good option they have.

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There’s zero chance the FDA and CDC say “whoops we fucked up!” to 161 million Americans or whatever the number is supposed to be. They’ve gone too far with this sham already, and now have to double down. Vaccines will be approved.
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This
 Quoting: Squonk1960


They don't have to admit the vaccines weren't safe, all they have to do is say the virus changed (they've already admitted this when they reinstated the mask guidance) and the vaccines no longer work against the current version. They could put enough spin on it where the stupid public would buy it.
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I think they're planning on not approving them YET but after 2023 when the trials complete

More credible that way
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And finally, after every attempt to separate us, by ideologies, skin color, racism, religious hate, after everything, they desperately released this bioweapon to vaccinate us and provide one more tool to their war chest.
And it is a Silent War.tomato


But in doing so, they divided their own house.

US Postal workers union was the 1st to come out against forced vaxx for federal employees. That's 220,000 postal workers.

If they exempt postal workers, other groups will demand exemptions too. Ir those are exempted, how can the force the military??

You see? They have backed themselves into a corner with both their own people and US civilians. They cannot force mandate on us that they don't participate in themselves. That shit won't fly.

Federal workers, they don't quit and walk away from those plush jobs with benefits so easy. Federal workers will force gov to fire them then fucking sue them.

Federal workers are used to pushing others around, not getting pushed around themselves. To say this shit is as popular as a wet blanket would be an understatement.


It is they who are getting divided now.
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They will NOT be approved, but not because of efficacy data or a new understanding that they are jot safe or effective. They will simply not be approved because it will lift the liability shielding.
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I think they're planning on not approving them YET but after 2023 when the trials complete

More credible that way
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They cannot mandate without FDA approval.

Even in the military you can turn down a non FDA approved vaccine.

I know because I did so during the Gulf War. I got threatened with loss of rank, redeployment to the rear and/or discharge for conduct unbecoming an NCO. Even had a near fist fight with a staff sergeant. What happened? I still refused, no loss of rank, deployed with my unit and carried on as normal and do not suffer "Gulf war syndrome".

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The rest of the govt and media is already freaking out at the FDA to approve.




The only thing I could guess at looking at their stuff is they might be waiting for the data from kids under 12 and approve it across the spectrum.


I could only find one report from someone who has seen it and they are from Harvard. They said the data is good and were mad the FDA was dragging.



That is all I have been able to to find.
 Quoting: Uncle Gintel


From what Ive seen the Covid vax has a 3-5 percent adverse reaction rate which is still way too high to be approved. It needs to be less than 1 percent. It will never gain approval
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They will NOT be approved, but not because of efficacy data or a new understanding that they are jot safe or effective. They will simply not be approved because it will lift the liability shielding.
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I don't think this is true.
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Really solid analysis Opie.

You will be dead wrong but your points are all spot on.

Remember, we live in the disinformation age: down is up. You either accept that or you fight like hell against it. There is no other option. If you got the vax already, you believe 2+2=5. There is no arguing that.
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It’d be funny if they denied the MRNAs, but I don’t take any stock in anything the FDA says or approves either way.
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Gov and FDA are stuck. If FDA approves, lawsuits from those injured after they get a shot will come pouring in. Employers who mandate approval will get the fuck sued out of them. If the FDA keeps the game going without approval, then they're fucked also.
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Master of the obvious OP. They can’t approve it, too many people have died or have been permanently injured by it. If they approve it, nobody in their right mind would ever trust the FDA again for anything.
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I think there will be even knowing full well it’s dangerous. It’s all part of the corrupt plot.
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Really solid analysis Opie.

You will be dead wrong but your points are all spot on.

Remember, we live in the disinformation age: down is up. You either accept that or you fight like hell against it. There is no other option. If you got the vax already, you believe 2+2=5. There is no arguing that.
 Quoting: Fugazi World


Most blue states reached about 60% vaxxer then hit a wall.

Red states, less than 50% vaxxed then hit the same wall.

Less than 60% of the country believes 2+2=5.

Everyone thought the world was flat in the 1400's, but that did not change the fact that the world is round.

Between 40-45% of the people in the 13 colonies supported the American revolution. Roughly 13% fought in the war. Yes, I know they say 3% but that is an incorrect number.


I know they have power, resources and tools (did go a part of that).

But they have made some very sloppy moves in the past 2 weeks. It shows discontinuity within their cause. That is leading to fractures and division.

Look at their moves, their actions. How is it playing out in France and Australia?

How is it going to play out in Texas?
Our governor just banned mandate for government workers. September 1st constitutional carry goes into affect.

Who in their right mind is going to go door to door in Texas to try to force vax? They have already lost in Texas. And if they lose in Texas then why not elsewhere?

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I don't think they'll approve the vaccines in their current state. They would be compromising their credibility too much and opening up big pharma to lawsuits. They'll probably hold out for a few more years, see how these vaccines affect people long term.





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