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Management/ CFOs have SHUT OFF COMPLETELY from communicating with us. They know they can do what they want and that the public will attack the nurse.

 Quoting: GeorgeSumner'sAcorn


I agree with you. The pay given to nursing management is totally out of wack with reality. I knew a nurse manager at Keiser. She made 250 thousand dollars a year for over a decade. That kind of cash doing staffing..really?!

I'm sorry but that's ridiculous...pay doctors well of course and nurses definitely deserve a living wage but managers making a quarter million a year??...no
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Jesus Christ, please deliver this demon the glory it deserves.
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Prayer is an expression of the grateful, not the beggar, Beggar.
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Grab your Bible and read along...

PSALM 35

The Lord The Avenger of His People
A Psalm of David

1 Plead my cause, O Lord, with those who strive with me; Fight against those who fight against me.

2 Take hold of shield and buckler, And stand up for my help.

3 Also draw out the spear, And stop those who pursue me. Say to my soul, “I am your salvation.”

4 Let those be put to shame and brought to dishonor Who seek after my life; Let those be turned back and brought to confusion Who plot my hurt.

5 Let them be like chaff before the wind, And let the angel of the Lord chase them.

6 Let their way be dark and slippery, And let the angel of the Lord pursue them.

7 For without cause they have hidden their net for me in a pit, which they have dug without cause for my life.

8 Let destruction come upon him unexpectedly, and let his net that he has hidden catch himself; into that very destruction let him fall.

(Read the rest yourself)
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Jesus Christ, please deliver this demon the glory it deserves.
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Prayer is an expression of the grateful, not the beggar, Beggar.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80527188

Grab your Bible and read along...

PSALM 35

The Lord The Avenger of His People
A Psalm of David

1 Plead my cause, O Lord, with those who strive with me; Fight against those who fight against me.

2 Take hold of shield and buckler, And stand up for my help.

3 Also draw out the spear, And stop those who pursue me. Say to my soul, “I am your salvation.”

4 Let those be put to shame and brought to dishonor Who seek after my life; Let those be turned back and brought to confusion Who plot my hurt.

5 Let them be like chaff before the wind, And let the angel of the Lord chase them.

6 Let their way be dark and slippery, And let the angel of the Lord pursue them.

7 For without cause they have hidden their net for me in a pit, which they have dug without cause for my life.

8 Let destruction come upon him unexpectedly, and let his net that he has hidden catch himself; into that very destruction let him fall.

(Read the rest yourself)
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Books and words bind minds to be slaves. Underlings. Life and creation is limitless. Choosing to limit the self, the limitless awareness, is a choice. Your are limitless awareness. choose to ignore that as your own burden.
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Anyone else noticing this upcoming trend?

My wife, along with a slew of others she said are looking for different careers.

She had 17 patients a few nights ago and says she’s can’t physically do it anymore.

Seems to be some major disconnect between the CFOs of hospitals and nurses nowadays.

Feel free to shed some light if you are in the healthcare field, or know what’s going on with it…
 Quoting: Nurse Gone Wild 37265447


Their giving more patients to ICU and PCU nurses. Regular med-srug floors at most hospitals at least here in Michigan have 1 nurse to 6-8 pts ratios.

Nurse Assistants have anywhere between 12-22 patients.

Hospitals are always saying we can't find workers, but its bullshit as they are never hiring.

I personally know of people applying 10 times to hospitals for various positions in healthcare and none apps accepted.

Americans wanted Socialized Medicine, now they will have it. It will be free, but you as family members will do most of the work now. There will only be 1 Nurse Assitant for 20+ pts so you will have to turn-over your mommy or daddy if you don't want them to have bed sores etc.
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The computer charting made things much worse. It takes so much time to do so that billing is correct. Never forget billing correctly trumps everything else.
An interesting nugget from the past. Hospitals were once regulated like utility companies and had a fixed profit limit. Everyone could afford healthcare. Then, when Richard Nixon was getting ready to run for a second term in 1975 I think, the CEO of the Kaiser Hospital chain paid a visit. He would fund Nixon’s campaign if he lifted the profit limitations. This is why we are in the mess we are in and it can’t be fixed.
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We need to go back to village, neighborhood nurses and Drs. Do peer to peer services with both parties agreeing on a price. Leave out corporate and the middleman.
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Exactly. Corporations and governments will take your money and then cram you into a ward with 20 other patients and one nurse only.

They determine the staffing levels and nurse numbers is NOT something they will spend money on. They don't care if you die or how badly you abuse your nurse for not being able to be in your room when you need her.

The minimum wage workers you see floating around on the units are not nurses and cannot and will not help her. They make more trouble.

Imagine if your BP is 250 over 100 and she has to work all this to get to you. Five screaming daughters accusing her of ignoring their mothers because she isn't able to be in their rooms at all times, 3 alarming cardiac monitors that need to be interpreted and dealt with, 10 obese people pissing themselves, 5 demented patients trying to crawl out of bed and fall and a guy screaming for his pain meds. This is alongside trying to obtain the med she is supposed to give you to lower your BP (20 minute fight with pharmacy, then multiple computer actions to get the med in her hands) and then actually getting into your room to give it, while your roommate tries to intercept her demanding her time for something stupid.

You think all those obstructions I described above aren't going to delay her enough to cause you a stroke from uncontrolled high blood pressure?

The crazy daughters of her other patients will be the worst of it all because they are going to step right in front of her with comments such as "I don't care about your 'short staffed' excuses or about what is going on with your other patients, my mother needs the thermostat adjusted in her room and her soup heated up now". She is a visitor and has no clue what is going on nor a care in the world about your BP and potential stroke. It wouldn't even occur to her that she could kill or maim another patient on the unit by getting in the face of the nurse making demands and obstructing her.

It is going to be the nurse who has legal liability, if you stroke out, if she allows these people to delay her getting into your room with that med to lower your BP. Not the doctor. Not the hospital. Not the crazy daughters of the other patients who are obstructing her from getting to you. With all this going on, it is a miracle that she noticed that your BP is even that high and initiated the process to get that med and get it to you.

So she pushes past them, quickly assesses the cardiac monitors that alarming to make sure nothing life threatening is happening and runs past the crazy daughters, the ones needing pain meds, and the demented and weak ones crawling over the siderails about to fall. And she gets in your room and goes through the procedures and actions to get your BP sorted, 40 minutes later than she should have but you are ok. Whew.

You are out of the woods for now but she isn't. Now the crazy daughter is putting in a customer service complaint about your nurse. She saw your nurse getting your BP med from the computer system and decided that "the nurse is ignoring my mom to play on the computer'. One of the demented patients crawled out of bed and fell and broke his hip while she was in your room and now his family is suing her for not being in his room. What if she had delayed getting into your room to stop and spend 30 minutes trying to wrestle the demented patient back to bed or conceding to the daughter of the other patient who wanted her to be mother's one to one personal care assistant? What if she had delayed another 20 minutes on top of that to help the guy who was desperate for the pain meds too. Should she have gone to him before going to your room? Probably not. It would have delayed her for too long and you were having the bigger emergency. But now his family is accusing her of "not bothering to get him his pain meds on time".


15 hours of this every day. I am refusing that vaccine and if they fire me so be it. WAWA is hiring.
 Quoting: GeorgeSumner'sAcorn


I know people need nurses but that's crazy stuff, too much stress, walk away while you still can live longer and better
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Re: There seems to be nurses quitting everywhere.
wrong--- the older nurses are being fucled with

force to quit or be laid off

replaced by dooshbags

many are from the african countries- got thier degree

in africa in 6 months

it's all about money--get rid of the old timers making more momney and have paid time off

replace with pathetic scum who dont know shit

and make the cnn's do all the work while the congo c*nts

sit on thier big fat asses and play with thier cell phones

i know this to be fact

many in my realm are nurses
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08/03/2021 01:23 PM
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SO LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT:

MAKING OVER $100,000 DOLLARS PER YEAR

LIVING LIKE AN ELITE

AND OUTSIDE OF WORK TREATED LIKE ROYALTY!

HAS ANYONE SAID, YOU GET PAID, DO YOUR GOD DAMN JOB AND QUIT BITCHING.

ITS YOUR FUCKING FAULT YOU DID NOT GO TO COLLEGE TO GET A BETTER JOB THEN BEING A NURSE "BABY SITTER" WHO'S PRIMARY JOB IS CHANGING BED SHEETS AND DIAPERS.

GO CLEAN SHIT, ITS ALL MOST NURSES ARE GOOD FOR!
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Shill 3.50. No clue what you are talking about.
 Quoting: GeorgeSumner'sAcorn


"No clue what you are talking about"...

GO CLEAN BED SHEETS, ITS ALL TOU CAN DO!

YOU WIPE ASSES FOR A 100K PLUS YEAR CAREER!

YOU LIKE LOOKING AT ASSHOLES, LOOKING AT POOP AND WRITING DOWN NOTES ON WHAT POOP LOOKS LIKE.

YOU SMELL POOP SO MUCH THAT YOU ARE IMMUNE TO THE SMELL.

YOU SMELL LIKE POOP, AT HOME, AT WORK AND AT CHURCH.

WHAT PART OF POOP DO YOU HATE? NONE OF IT BECAUSE YOU SEE SO MUCH POOP YOU BECAME INVISIBLE.

SO... YOU ARE THE INVISIBLE POOP NURSE HEAD!

OTHERWORDS... YOU ARE A SHITHEAD !!!
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Dis sounss like simpfin foe AA knnneeggrrowes kann doo!!!!
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08/03/2021 01:24 PM
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You uppity westerners don’t like being overloaded then hit the bricks! There’s plenty of Filipinas who will happily work those hours with triple the load! And rack up all the overtime! And don’t forget to get vaxed, ya serfs! The hospital ceo needs those big bonuses! And private school and Ivy League university for his kids ain’t gonna pay by themselves! Now get crackalackin!
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Re: There seems to be nurses quitting everywhere.
wrong--- the older nurses are being fucled with

force to quit or be laid off

replaced by dooshbags

many are from the african countries- got thier degree

in africa in 6 months

it's all about money--get rid of the old timers making more momney and have paid time off

replace with pathetic scum who dont know shit

and make the cnn's do all the work while the congo c*nts

sit on thier big fat asses and play with thier cell phones

i know this to be fact

many in my realm are nurses
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THIS IS EXACTLY CORRECT!!!! Can confirm…medical field is being infested with basically illiterate anti-white, angry, incompetent kknniiiggrowes!!!’


This needs to be fixed and is a REAL pandemic!
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08/03/2021 01:28 PM
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Ones i have talked to are "giving eachother" the jab to steer clear of it.
Just like the flu vax crap.
Smart people.
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My hospital has cut down nurse staffing levels so severely that each nurse has 9 patients and no help, on her own for 12 hours. These are critical and complicated patients that need one to one monitoring. It forces her to stay past her shift another 4 hours to chart. A grand total of 15 or 16 hours with no break.

6 of my 9 patients last night were 300lbs plus and dead weight, constantly pissing themselves or trying to crawl out of bed and fall. Each one on the call bell 8 or 9 times an hour. The other three were critically ill, on complex time consuming drips and interventions.

Management has also taken away aides, phlebotomy, cleaning staff and lab techs, and outsourced catering to a horrible company that dumps out trays and then takes them away before a nurse can even get around to all her people and make sure they eat.

I hurt today.

Almost every nurse we have hired over the last three years has quit after a month on the job, calling and crying and saying I will not come back. Occasionally, they will last for a year. The job market is bad for nurses except for jobs with these insane conditions.

Not only is it physically and mentally demanding but the patients and families are abusive and demanding with no respect or comprehension of the fact that they are sharing one RN with multiple other people. For the nurse, the fact that she could get held responsible for someone's death simply because she cannot be 10 places at once is a very real fear.

It is physically impossible to stay on top of second level tasks that prevent suffering, and all that gets combined with abusive families, patients, etc. No one abuses the managers who cut down the staffing levels, or medicare for refusing to reimburse for safe nurse staffing levels.

Management cuts the staffing levels, but the public goes gunning for the throat of the overstretched nurse when their loved one is suffering and she cannot get into his room because her other patients are critically ill and need immediate interventions. Management is off the hook for the decisions they make.

Hospitals only hire to replacing nurses who leave, never to increase the staffing numbers. Colleges are churning out lots of new RNs a-plenty but once they get a taste of hell on the frontlines they run screaming from hospitals. It is a manufactured "shortage"so the powers that be can profit and harm patients. There is no real nursing shortage. Nurses would stay in the hospitals if the ratios were safe.

In 2018 20 nurses quit and they replaced them with 16. 30 quit and they replace them with 12. On and on. They are always hiring but never increasing the staffing levels, making the job too brutal to continue in.

I was told they want to run every last American nurse out of the job with poor and abusive conditions.

Not only are the staffing ratios abusive and dangerous, but the public is encouraged to lash out at the nurse and not the policymakers. They want to replace American nurses with foreign ones who will not question dangerous practices, who will work for peanuts, and will be trapped in the job because it is tied to their immigration visa.

Last night we reported our hospital to patient safety organizations and the DoH. But that has been done 1000x before and they don't respond because they have their hands in the same cookie jar as management and the feds.

Management/ CFOs have SHUT OFF COMPLETELY from communicating with us. They know they can do what they want and that the public will attack the nurse. They could stretch one nurse out between 100 patients with no help. That nurse will get accused of intentional neglect and laziness. The doctors only diagnose and prescribe, they don't get involved with anything else. They just shrug their shoulders and say it's not their problem. They are another group of people who sit and watch management cut off the staffing levels and then lash out at the nurse. They only have to develop a correct diagnosis and an order set. It is not their problem if that order set requires the nurse to be in that patient's room 60 minutes out of every hour and she has no help for her other 8 people who are now being harmed because she is away from them.

I had 8 heavy, complicated patients last night with no help and the 9th that they sent me on top of all that should have been in an ICU with a one to one nurse.
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Do you mind sharing what state you are in? Or city?
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We need to go back to village, neighborhood nurses and Drs. Do peer to peer services with both parties agreeing on a price. Leave out corporate and the middleman.
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Exactly. Corporations and governments will take your money and then cram you into a ward with 20 other patients and one nurse only.

They determine the staffing levels and nurse numbers is NOT something they will spend money on. They don't care if you die or how badly you abuse your nurse for not being able to be in your room when you need her.

The minimum wage workers you see floating around on the units are not nurses and cannot and will not help her. They make more trouble.

Imagine if your BP is 250 over 100 and she has to work all this to get to you. Five screaming daughters accusing her of ignoring their mothers because she isn't able to be in their rooms at all times, 3 alarming cardiac monitors that need to be interpreted and dealt with, 10 obese people pissing themselves, 5 demented patients trying to crawl out of bed and fall and a guy screaming for his pain meds. This is alongside trying to obtain the med she is supposed to give you to lower your BP (20 minute fight with pharmacy, then multiple computer actions to get the med in her hands) and then actually getting into your room to give it, while your roommate tries to intercept her demanding her time for something stupid.

You think all those obstructions I described above aren't going to delay her enough to cause you a stroke from uncontrolled high blood pressure?

The crazy daughters of her other patients will be the worst of it all because they are going to step right in front of her with comments such as "I don't care about your 'short staffed' excuses or about what is going on with your other patients, my mother needs the thermostat adjusted in her room and her soup heated up now". She is a visitor and has no clue what is going on nor a care in the world about your BP and potential stroke. It wouldn't even occur to her that she could kill or maim another patient on the unit by getting in the face of the nurse making demands and obstructing her.

It is going to be the nurse who has legal liability, if you stroke out, if she allows these people to delay her getting into your room with that med to lower your BP. Not the doctor. Not the hospital. Not the crazy daughters of the other patients who are obstructing her from getting to you. With all this going on, it is a miracle that she noticed that your BP is even that high and initiated the process to get that med and get it to you.

So she pushes past them, quickly assesses the cardiac monitors that alarming to make sure nothing life threatening is happening and runs past the crazy daughters, the ones needing pain meds, and the demented and weak ones crawling over the siderails about to fall. And she gets in your room and goes through the procedures and actions to get your BP sorted, 40 minutes later than she should have but you are ok. Whew.

You are out of the woods for now but she isn't. Now the crazy daughter is putting in a customer service complaint about your nurse. She saw your nurse getting your BP med from the computer system and decided that "the nurse is ignoring my mom to play on the computer'. One of the demented patients crawled out of bed and fell and broke his hip while she was in your room and now his family is suing her for not being in his room. What if she had delayed getting into your room to stop and spend 30 minutes trying to wrestle the demented patient back to bed or conceding to the daughter of the other patient who wanted her to be mother's one to one personal care assistant? What if she had delayed another 20 minutes on top of that to help the guy who was desperate for the pain meds too. Should she have gone to him before going to your room? Probably not. It would have delayed her for too long and you were having the bigger emergency. But now his family is accusing her of "not bothering to get him his pain meds on time".


15 hours of this every day. I am refusing that vaccine and if they fire me so be it. WAWA is hiring.
 Quoting: GeorgeSumner'sAcorn


I know people need nurses but that's crazy stuff, too much stress, walk away while you still can live longer and better
 Quoting: Furrry Pete

Nurses in Minneapolis have stated they are treated very badly by Somali community at Fairview Riverside U of M.
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We need to go back to village, neighborhood nurses and Drs. Do peer to peer services with both parties agreeing on a price. Leave out corporate and the middleman.
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Exactly. Corporations and governments will take your money and then cram you into a ward with 20 other patients and one nurse only.

They determine the staffing levels and nurse numbers is NOT something they will spend money on. They don't care if you die or how badly you abuse your nurse for not being able to be in your room when you need her.

The minimum wage workers you see floating around on the units are not nurses and cannot and will not help her. They make more trouble.

Imagine if your BP is 250 over 100 and she has to work all this to get to you. Five screaming daughters accusing her of ignoring their mothers because she isn't able to be in their rooms at all times, 3 alarming cardiac monitors that need to be interpreted and dealt with, 10 obese people pissing themselves, 5 demented patients trying to crawl out of bed and fall and a guy screaming for his pain meds. This is alongside trying to obtain the med she is supposed to give you to lower your BP (20 minute fight with pharmacy, then multiple computer actions to get the med in her hands) and then actually getting into your room to give it, while your roommate tries to intercept her demanding her time for something stupid.

You think all those obstructions I described above aren't going to delay her enough to cause you a stroke from uncontrolled high blood pressure?

The crazy daughters of her other patients will be the worst of it all because they are going to step right in front of her with comments such as "I don't care about your 'short staffed' excuses or about what is going on with your other patients, my mother needs the thermostat adjusted in her room and her soup heated up now". She is a visitor and has no clue what is going on nor a care in the world about your BP and potential stroke. It wouldn't even occur to her that she could kill or maim another patient on the unit by getting in the face of the nurse making demands and obstructing her.

It is going to be the nurse who has legal liability, if you stroke out, if she allows these people to delay her getting into your room with that med to lower your BP. Not the doctor. Not the hospital. Not the crazy daughters of the other patients who are obstructing her from getting to you. With all this going on, it is a miracle that she noticed that your BP is even that high and initiated the process to get that med and get it to you.

So she pushes past them, quickly assesses the cardiac monitors that alarming to make sure nothing life threatening is happening and runs past the crazy daughters, the ones needing pain meds, and the demented and weak ones crawling over the siderails about to fall. And she gets in your room and goes through the procedures and actions to get your BP sorted, 40 minutes later than she should have but you are ok. Whew.

You are out of the woods for now but she isn't. Now the crazy daughter is putting in a customer service complaint about your nurse. She saw your nurse getting your BP med from the computer system and decided that "the nurse is ignoring my mom to play on the computer'. One of the demented patients crawled out of bed and fell and broke his hip while she was in your room and now his family is suing her for not being in his room. What if she had delayed getting into your room to stop and spend 30 minutes trying to wrestle the demented patient back to bed or conceding to the daughter of the other patient who wanted her to be mother's one to one personal care assistant? What if she had delayed another 20 minutes on top of that to help the guy who was desperate for the pain meds too. Should she have gone to him before going to your room? Probably not. It would have delayed her for too long and you were having the bigger emergency. But now his family is accusing her of "not bothering to get him his pain meds on time".


15 hours of this every day. I am refusing that vaccine and if they fire me so be it. WAWA is hiring.
 Quoting: GeorgeSumner'sAcorn


I know people need nurses but that's crazy stuff, too much stress, walk away while you still can live longer and better
 Quoting: Furrry Pete

Nurses in Minneapolis have stated they are treated very badly by Somali community at Fairview Riverside U of M.
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The computer charting made things much worse. It takes so much time to do so that billing is correct. Never forget billing correctly trumps everything else.
An interesting nugget from the past. Hospitals were once regulated like utility companies and had a fixed profit limit. Everyone could afford healthcare. Then, when Richard Nixon was getting ready to run for a second term in 1975 I think, the CEO of the Kaiser Hospital chain paid a visit. He would fund Nixon’s campaign if he lifted the profit limitations. This is why we are in the mess we are in and it can’t be fixed.
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North memorial hospital in Robbinsdale (Minneapolis) was sued by the attorney general for abusive collection action.

They are supposedly non profit.
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I don't blame them at all, esp if they are forced to vaxx. We will need them once the war starts though.
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Anyone else noticing this upcoming trend?

My wife, along with a slew of others she said are looking for different careers.

She had 17 patients a few nights ago and says she’s can’t physically do it anymore.

Seems to be some major disconnect between the CFOs of hospitals and nurses nowadays.

Feel free to shed some light if you are in the healthcare field, or know what’s going on with it…
 Quoting: Nurse Gone Wild 37265447


My mother and cousin are nurses and both consider quitting. They are making them get the vaxx or get tested weekly.
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Spit on the test. Don’t let them put it up your nose ever. Or let them fire you. Tell them also to start looking into other places to work. There are a lot now. Let the hospitals feel the pain of what they did by inflating covid numbers for money. They brought hell down on all of us because of greed. If we knew the real numbers no one would have taken the shots.
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Wait till the truckers quit. And the warehouse personnel. And all the people who stock the shelves and pump your gas. Game over.
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Yup. And the quicker the better. Get this crap over with.
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Re: There seems to be nurses quitting everywhere.
Anyone else noticing this upcoming trend?

My wife, along with a slew of others she said are looking for different careers.

She had 17 patients a few nights ago and says she’s can’t physically do it anymore.

Seems to be some major disconnect between the CFOs of hospitals and nurses nowadays.

Feel free to shed some light if you are in the healthcare field, or know what’s going on with it…
 Quoting: Nurse Gone Wild 37265447


I hear the same from family members who are nurses. Always shorthanded and overworked. But it's not like the bosses are doing it deliberately. They do have ads out that they are hiring. It's just no one wants the job. Where they work it is CNA's they are short on and making the others do double work and shifts. But some LPN's don't want to do CNA work, so they don't take the extra shift.
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CNAs don’t make enough money to deal with what they have to do. Wiping poopy butts all days and putting up with the crap of the nurses who abuse them. If they want more make their education cheaper and throw them a few more bones. And treat them nicer. People can make more at Walmart with less abuse.
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The above is VERY true. I believe a CNA should make AT LEAST $20.00 per hour.

I know of CNAs that have 14 patients per shift in the COVID units of hospitals. One of the ones I know personally walks 8 miles PER 12 HOUR SHIFT. She makes $14.85 per hour and is a damn fine hard working person. The nurses always check to see what side she is on and choose her side of the unit because they know she works hard and knows her shit.

SOME of the daily duties are: (I know I'm missing some of them)

Feeding
Vitals
Changing/Cleaning
Passing meal trays
Ambulating patients
Transferring patients
Working Codes if needed
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That's insane. I make $30/hour to make a lot of medical tape these hospitals use and as there is probably a fraction of the stress levels they have. Big jumbos once every 1.5-2 hours, 30 minute breaks every 2 hours. I know I have it good and can maintain my minimalist lifestyle with little forced overtime along with investing to retire early so I stay here.

The jobs people work at for years with shit pay....
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Anyone else noticing this upcoming trend?

My wife, along with a slew of others she said are looking for different careers.

She had 17 patients a few nights ago and says she’s can’t physically do it anymore.

Seems to be some major disconnect between the CFOs of hospitals and nurses nowadays.

Feel free to shed some light if you are in the healthcare field, or know what’s going on with it…
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Their giving more patients to ICU and PCU nurses. Regular med-srug floors at most hospitals at least here in Michigan have 1 nurse to 6-8 pts ratios.

Nurse Assistants have anywhere between 12-22 patients.

Hospitals are always saying we can't find workers, but its bullshit as they are never hiring.



5a

I personally know of people applying 10 times to hospitals for various positions in healthcare and none apps accepted.


5a Dey ayn hired beekuz uzz kknneeggrroowwes is takin duh jobs ann fuggin thangs up!!!!





Americans wanted Socialized Medicine, now they will have it. It will be free, but you as family members will do most of the work now. There will only be 1 Nurse Assitant for 20+ pts so you will have to turn-over your mommy or daddy if you don't want them to have bed sores etc.
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My 40's something orthodontist is selling her practice to a young man - looks to be not too long out of dental school. She is "cutting back". My daughter's Ob-Gyn is retiring - in her 40's. Hmmmm.
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Re: There seems to be nurses quitting everywhere.
Anyone else noticing this upcoming trend?

My wife, along with a slew of others she said are looking for different careers.

She had 17 patients a few nights ago and says she’s can’t physically do it anymore.

Seems to be some major disconnect between the CFOs of hospitals and nurses nowadays.

Feel free to shed some light if you are in the healthcare field, or know what’s going on with it…
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My mother and cousin are nurses and both consider quitting. They are making them get the vaxx or get tested weekly.
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Yes, quit and move onto private care. I know many that are going that route
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Yup. One of my friends takes her newborn with her to her private care lady. The old woman loves the baby. She loves her job. She and her newborn got covid and got over it easily. Now they have antibodies and no shots required.
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aren't most of the 'hospitals' owned/controlled by the big hedge funds now?
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I have met only a handful of decent nurses in my life. There is probably 1 per 100,000 that has a soul. They pretend to care, but they are heartless killers.

If we die of neglect or lack of care, it may just be better than being killed by one of these losers.
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Pretty much.
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My hospital has cut down nurse staffing levels so severely that each nurse has 9 patients and no help, on her own for 12 hours. These are critical and complicated patients that need one to one monitoring. It forces her to stay past her shift another 4 hours to chart. A grand total of 15 or 16 hours with no break.

6 of my 9 patients last night were 300lbs plus and dead weight, constantly pissing themselves or trying to crawl out of bed and fall. Each one on the call bell 8 or 9 times an hour. The other three were critically ill, on complex time consuming drips and interventions.

Management has also taken away aides, phlebotomy, cleaning staff and lab techs, and outsourced catering to a horrible company that dumps out trays and then takes them away before a nurse can even get around to all her people and make sure they eat.

I hurt today.

Almost every nurse we have hired over the last three years has quit after a month on the job, calling and crying and saying I will not come back. Occasionally, they will last for a year. The job market is bad for nurses except for jobs with these insane conditions.

Not only is it physically and mentally demanding but the patients and families are abusive and demanding with no respect or comprehension of the fact that they are sharing one RN with multiple other people. For the nurse, the fact that she could get held responsible for someone's death simply because she cannot be 10 places at once is a very real fear.

It is physically impossible to stay on top of second level tasks that prevent suffering, and all that gets combined with abusive families, patients, etc. No one abuses the managers who cut down the staffing levels, or medicare for refusing to reimburse for safe nurse staffing levels.

Management cuts the staffing levels, but the public goes gunning for the throat of the overstretched nurse when their loved one is suffering and she cannot get into his room because her other patients are critically ill and need immediate interventions. Management is off the hook for the decisions they make.

Hospitals only hire to replacing nurses who leave, never to increase the staffing numbers. Colleges are churning out lots of new RNs a-plenty but once they get a taste of hell on the frontlines they run screaming from hospitals. It is a manufactured "shortage"so the powers that be can profit and harm patients. There is no real nursing shortage. Nurses would stay in the hospitals if the ratios were safe.

In 2018 20 nurses quit and they replaced them with 16. 30 quit and they replace them with 12. On and on. They are always hiring but never increasing the staffing levels, making the job too brutal to continue in.

I was told they want to run every last American nurse out of the job with poor and abusive conditions.

Not only are the staffing ratios abusive and dangerous, but the public is encouraged to lash out at the nurse and not the policymakers. They want to replace American nurses with foreign ones who will not question dangerous practices, who will work for peanuts, and will be trapped in the job because it is tied to their immigration visa.

Last night we reported our hospital to patient safety organizations and the DoH. But that has been done 1000x before and they don't respond because they have their hands in the same cookie jar as management and the feds.

Management/ CFOs have SHUT OFF COMPLETELY from communicating with us. They know they can do what they want and that the public will attack the nurse. They could stretch one nurse out between 100 patients with no help. That nurse will get accused of intentional neglect and laziness. The doctors only diagnose and prescribe, they don't get involved with anything else. They just shrug their shoulders and say it's not their problem. They are another group of people who sit and watch management cut off the staffing levels and then lash out at the nurse. They only have to develop a correct diagnosis and an order set. It is not their problem if that order set requires the nurse to be in that patient's room 60 minutes out of every hour and she has no help for her other 8 people who are now being harmed because she is away from them.

I had 8 heavy, complicated patients last night with no help and the 9th that they sent me on top of all that should have been in an ICU with a one to one nurse.
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My mother suffered all her life with back injury caused by lifting heavy patients, she suffered grievously at the end of her life from callous 3d world nurses and she heard what they called her ( that old white bitch) and she KNEW her life was in danger, until we got her transferred to where there were still good caring nurses.
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Guy I know from my gym is a cardiac nurse. He's been taking 3 month contracts out of state to go to other hospitals to do whatever they need because of short staffing. He's getting $75,000 contracts for 3 months. 4 days on 3 days off. He said he's been doing this since March of last year. He rents an apartment on three month leases wherever he's going. He does a three month, then comes home for a month off then goes and does another one. So he's making about $225,000 a year with three months off right now.
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My hospital has cut down nurse staffing levels so severely that each nurse has 9 patients and no help, on her own for 12 hours. These are critical and complicated patients that need one to one monitoring. It forces her to stay past her shift another 4 hours to chart. A grand total of 15 or 16 hours with no break.

6 of my 9 patients last night were 300lbs plus and dead weight, constantly pissing themselves or trying to crawl out of bed and fall. Each one on the call bell 8 or 9 times an hour. The other three were critically ill, on complex time consuming drips and interventions.

Management has also taken away aides, phlebotomy, cleaning staff and lab techs, and outsourced catering to a horrible company that dumps out trays and then takes them away before a nurse can even get around to all her people and make sure they eat.

I hurt today.

Almost every nurse we have hired over the last three years has quit after a month on the job, calling and crying and saying I will not come back. Occasionally, they will last for a year. The job market is bad for nurses except for jobs with these insane conditions.

Not only is it physically and mentally demanding but the patients and families are abusive and demanding with no respect or comprehension of the fact that they are sharing one RN with multiple other people. For the nurse, the fact that she could get held responsible for someone's death simply because she cannot be 10 places at once is a very real fear.

It is physically impossible to stay on top of second level tasks that prevent suffering, and all that gets combined with abusive families, patients, etc. No one abuses the managers who cut down the staffing levels, or medicare for refusing to reimburse for safe nurse staffing levels.

Management cuts the staffing levels, but the public goes gunning for the throat of the overstretched nurse when their loved one is suffering and she cannot get into his room because her other patients are critically ill and need immediate interventions. Management is off the hook for the decisions they make.

Hospitals only hire to replacing nurses who leave, never to increase the staffing numbers. Colleges are churning out lots of new RNs a-plenty but once they get a taste of hell on the frontlines they run screaming from hospitals. It is a manufactured "shortage"so the powers that be can profit and harm patients. There is no real nursing shortage. Nurses would stay in the hospitals if the ratios were safe.

In 2018 20 nurses quit and they replaced them with 16. 30 quit and they replace them with 12. On and on. They are always hiring but never increasing the staffing levels, making the job too brutal to continue in.

I was told they want to run every last American nurse out of the job with poor and abusive conditions.

Not only are the staffing ratios abusive and dangerous, but the public is encouraged to lash out at the nurse and not the policymakers. They want to replace American nurses with foreign ones who will not question dangerous practices, who will work for peanuts, and will be trapped in the job because it is tied to their immigration visa.

Last night we reported our hospital to patient safety organizations and the DoH. But that has been done 1000x before and they don't respond because they have their hands in the same cookie jar as management and the feds.

Management/ CFOs have SHUT OFF COMPLETELY from communicating with us. They know they can do what they want and that the public will attack the nurse. They could stretch one nurse out between 100 patients with no help. That nurse will get accused of intentional neglect and laziness. The doctors only diagnose and prescribe, they don't get involved with anything else. They just shrug their shoulders and say it's not their problem. They are another group of people who sit and watch management cut off the staffing levels and then lash out at the nurse. They only have to develop a correct diagnosis and an order set. It is not their problem if that order set requires the nurse to be in that patient's room 60 minutes out of every hour and she has no help for her other 8 people who are now being harmed because she is away from them.

I had 8 heavy, complicated patients last night with no help and the 9th that they sent me on top of all that should have been in an ICU with a one to one nurse.
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oh my, never really thought about you guys dealing with the big Americans and these conditions... so thankful for what you do!

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I have met only a handful of decent nurses in my life. There is probably 1 per 100,000 that has a soul. They pretend to care, but they are heartless killers.

If we die of neglect or lack of care, it may just be better than being killed by one of these losers.
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Pretty much.
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We met two in cardiology who assisted the Dr who prayed for us. Both of them were gay males and were the best ever, very kind.
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My wife was a nurse she bailed about 10 years ago because of being worked like a dog. She runs a small store in our hometown and has hired 2 former nurses just recently. They left because of the same reason. They went from $25 per hour to $12 that says a lot.
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I don't know how it is we have the highest productivity in human history yet there are still shortages of everything. . UPS will give their drivers 12 hours of work to do in 10 so they always have to stay late. It's the same with all corporations...push push push...meanwhile 10-20% of the population suck off the government and dont work at all.


This consumption driven system is broken or breaking. The sheep are tired of being wage slaves. Hard work is one thing, being used is another. Whatever happened to living wage jobs?
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Re: There seems to be nurses quitting everywhere.
Anyone else noticing this upcoming trend?

My wife, along with a slew of others she said are looking for different careers.

She had 17 patients a few nights ago and says she’s can’t physically do it anymore.

Seems to be some major disconnect between the CFOs of hospitals and nurses nowadays.

Feel free to shed some light if you are in the healthcare field, or know what’s going on with it…
 Quoting: Nurse Gone Wild 37265447


My mother and cousin are nurses and both consider quitting. They are making them get the vaxx or get tested weekly.
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Do they have to pay for the test?
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I'm not sure. Haven't asked them. I'll find out. I know from talking to them that a lot nurses won't take the vaxx.
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One of my friend’s work mailed tests to him and said that if they turned up negative to stay home. Didn’t say he actually had to take the tests. Honor system lol Maybe that’s what these nurses will do. Say they took the test but won’t. Screw it all.





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