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Breathalyzers in all new cars passed in infrastructure bill

 
Jungleboogie

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I don't know about anyone else but this doesn't sit very well with me!

This is the sort of creeping authoritarianism that bothers me a lot.

Are they going to stop doing DUI checkpoints because of this?

You fucking know they won't!

This isn't something to make you more free, this is something designed to make you much less free in fact.
 Quoting: roguetechie81


Back in the 60s & 70s the Dems were the party of anti-authoritarianism.

Hard to believe how complete the role reversal is.

Now it's Conservatives that are skeptical of war and anti-regulation.

Stunning really.

Timothy Leary must be astral turning in his grave.
Embrace the cognitive dissonance.
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08/04/2021 09:47 PM
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One good thing about all this totalitarian bullshit, it's getting much easier to save money.
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08/04/2021 09:49 PM
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I don't know about anyone else but this doesn't sit very well with me!

This is the sort of creeping authoritarianism that bothers me a lot.

Are they going to stop doing DUI checkpoints because of this?

You fucking know they won't!

This isn't something to make you more free, this is something designed to make you much less free in fact.
 Quoting: roguetechie81



Then don't buy a new car you drunk! You are blessed God let you slide by all these years. Time to get on the wagon and sober up.

Breath of life in a truck. car, Optimus Prime and bumblebee here we come!
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08/04/2021 09:51 PM
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If they were concerned about safety cell phones would not operate above 5 mph.
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If they were concerned about safety cell phones would not operate above 5 mph.
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08/04/2021 09:52 PM
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Ok, I want them installed on every commercial airliner, every city bus, every train, every ship....
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Every seat in the house and senate should have one too. Cannot have drunk ass Peelousee voting hammered.
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$1m is chump change as far as lobbying goes. This ain't going to happen.
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08/04/2021 10:14 PM

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So, I get a passenger or passer by to blow me....I mean, blow for me.
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08/04/2021 10:16 PM
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As someone who got caught up in the DUI racket twice and other times blew a .08, I'd rather have my car refuse to start until I'm under their BS safety number then pop a DUI because my tail light and headlight were out as with what happened to me. Never pulled over for my driving always some cockamamie that did me in and their .08 is complete bs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80550127


People like this guy are the reason why Big Brother gets away with this silly horseshit.
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Exactly, how about just don’t drink and drive anymore?
My Fear

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That is an unnecessary cost to new cars.
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08/04/2021 10:19 PM
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Once these liberal cars roll out onto the streets it probably won't be more than a few days before some teenager figures out how to hack that feature.

LOL.

SCREW BIG GOVERNMENT!
JDawn
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As someone who got caught up in the DUI racket twice and other times blew a .08, I'd rather have my car refuse to start until I'm under their BS safety number then pop a DUI because my tail light and headlight were out as with what happened to me. Never pulled over for my driving always some cockamamie that did me in and their .08 is complete bs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80550127


Think deeper. Use of DUI ploy to get a restrictive handle onto all vehicles is the beginning

Then. When you speak out they also shut your vehicle off. Under guise of. You may be a danger and ram it into something in retaliation

Now pick up that can citizen
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Re: Breathalyzers in all new cars passed in infrastructure bill
As someone who got caught up in the DUI racket twice and other times blew a .08, I'd rather have my car refuse to start until I'm under their BS safety number then pop a DUI because my tail light and headlight were out as with what happened to me. Never pulled over for my driving always some cockamamie that did me in and their .08 is complete bs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80550127


People like this guy are the reason why Big Brother gets away with this silly horseshit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79228219


Exactly, how about just don’t drink and drive anymore?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80380264


If you think that is all this is about, then you’re either terribly naive or easy pickings for the State.
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08/04/2021 10:48 PM
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Things like this are how Nancy Pelosi become a multi-millionaire on a congressional salary.

Who do you think got the kickbacks for mandating an unnecessary $3k system for every single vehicle?
 Quoting: Depluribus Unum


hesright

Arguing with people about it also a complete waste of time, all you can do is hope the courts stop it when the auto manufacturers sue. The inbuilt "big brother is always right" mentality that most people have will never let them see this for what it is, a loss of fundamental rights and an intrusion on personal privacy. Frankly the way our world has gone I have a suspicion that by the time I die, it'll be a relief.
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Auto manufacturers won't sue. They love it. They add their profit margin on top of the cost of the breathalyzer, and don't have to worry about it because their competition does too.
 Quoting: Depluribus Unum


What if your onboard computer says you are good but the pice pull u over and on their gear you are over, will the manufacturer be responsible? Can they be sued for damages?

Who provides tech support if u are sober and the computet locks your engine, what if this causes u damages, can u file a lawsuit?

I can see reasons the automotive companies would push back on this
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On under a year, they will argue, if you will accept a breathalyser to start you car, you'll acceot a COVID Test to leave your home or to go to vote.
Larphillips

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Once these liberal cars roll out onto the streets it probably won't be more than a few days before some teenager figures out how to hack that feature.

LOL.

SCREW BIG GOVERNMENT!
 Quoting: JDawn


Yep…but I’m wondering what comes with this new little ‘feature?’ What package of legislation will shortly follow after the MSM peppers the airwaves for a good six months about the units being disabled? What the ‘outraged citizenry’ will be screaming for?

I’m guessing annual/biannual inspections…mandatory stops and checkpoints…remote reporting…the works. Oh and all backed up by punishingly high fines and/or loss of license and vehicle.

Yeah, there’s going to be a whole, giant, stinking wave of bullshit that flows in deep with this…and the ‘majority’ will have welcomed it.
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That is an unnecessary cost to new cars.
 Quoting: My Fear


Demonrats DON'T CARE.

The hivemind has determined it's for the greater good and YOU WILL obey!
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That is an unnecessary cost to new cars.
 Quoting: My Fear


Demonrats DON'T CARE.

The hivemind has determined it's for the greater good and YOU WILL obey!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78940878


Just like the VAX.

When Borg Central (NWO HQ) makes a decision for the hivemind, there is no discussion or dissent.
Larphillips

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08/04/2021 10:55 PM

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That is an unnecessary cost to new cars.
 Quoting: My Fear


Demonrats DON'T CARE.

The hivemind has determined it's for the greater good and YOU WILL obey!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78940878


Exactly! Plus, it works several ways in their favor. Consumers have already shown that they will greatly overpay for a new car just as long as their payments stay relatively the same. The banks are more than happy to comply by offering longer and longer terms and compounding that interest. Americans deeper and deeper in debt allows for more control.
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My Fear

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Why should I have to pay for something I don't want. Why should have to pay for those that drink too much and drive?
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08/04/2021 11:03 PM
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creeping authoritarianism? Its NOT creeping anymore its the sound of big foot running through your house
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Doesn’t matter to me, I use Uber/Lyft when I go out drinking. $25-$40 now versus $10,000 dollars and a 20% rise in premiums later. No brainer. Quit being so cheap.
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Larphillips

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08/04/2021 11:18 PM

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I love the people who shrug off each and every example of MASSIVE government overreach because it ‘doesn’t effect them.’

Well…eventually it will get to something that affects you. And with the rapid pace that this is all accelerating, it will likely be sooner rather than later.
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08/04/2021 11:19 PM
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Are they going to put these at the entrances to the Congress Buildings that the elected representatives are then REQUIRED to go through as they go in and out of the various buildings and in and out of the House and Senate Chambers?

Having SOBER Congressmen/women and Senators is even MORE MPORTANT to the health and safety of the country than sober vehicle drivers!!

Of course if they do this then every passenger getting on any plane, train or bus should be required to blow into one too before being allowed to board those conveyance vehicles!!
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08/04/2021 11:22 PM
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Things like this are how Nancy Pelosi become a multi-millionaire on a congressional salary.

Who do you think got the kickbacks for mandating an unnecessary $3k system for every single vehicle?
 Quoting: Depluribus Unum


Congressional-Corruption is probably America's top problem, yet no one wants to address these criminal actions by the CONgrist Critters.

You, Amerikka, deservedly get the fully fucked-up whored-out massively-corrupted 'government' that you voted for. Or, via apathetic default, was allowed to steal, in election after election after election after election after .....

Now bow down and worship Queen Nancy and King Joe..

Beam me up, Scotty, no sign of any intelligent life down here ....
Depluribus Unum

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As someone who got caught up in the DUI racket twice and other times blew a .08, I'd rather have my car refuse to start until I'm under their BS safety number then pop a DUI because my tail light and headlight were out as with what happened to me. Never pulled over for my driving always some cockamamie that did me in and their .08 is complete bs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80550127


Well I'm glad that it will keep you off the road, but it's a bit of a nuisance for those of us who just don't drive if they've been drinking.

But I do agree that BAC is very subjective. Some people are perfectly fine at .08, and others are stupid passout drunk at .04. It should be based on capability to operate the machine.
 Quoting: Depluribus Unum


Bullshit. .04 is 1 beer. I don't know anyone who is drunk on 1 beer, much less 2.

I used one of those drink counter apps once that estimates your BAC based on the alcohol content and frequency just to see where I was with it out of curiosity. I didn't even feel a buzz until the thing said .12 and didn't start to feel drunk until it said .16. So, that would be 4 beers in an hour. I'd say that's quite a bit if you're going out for a night of drinking at the bar. I don't know anyone who goes out and drinks like this.

I would say, if you're drinking 4 beers an hour the problem isn't your driving its that you're a total drunk.

Frankly, a lot of these people who get sloshed at the bar aren't sloshed because they drank at the bar... they drink all day long and then go to the bar and drink some more and then drive home and drink some more.

The police, on the other hand, will sit a couple blocks down from a bar and then look for excuses to pop moderate drinkers who aren't drunk with a DUI while claiming they're "saving the world."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80694035


I'm talking about small girls. Some of them get sloshed on nothing at all.
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Justme C'est Moi

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So when this shit technology breaks down and leaves you on the side of the highway, then what?
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Things like this are how Nancy Pelosi become a multi-millionaire on a congressional salary.

Who do you think got the kickbacks for mandating an unnecessary $3k system for every single vehicle?
 Quoting: Depluribus Unum


hesright

Arguing with people about it also a complete waste of time, all you can do is hope the courts stop it when the auto manufacturers sue. The inbuilt "big brother is always right" mentality that most people have will never let them see this for what it is, a loss of fundamental rights and an intrusion on personal privacy. Frankly the way our world has gone I have a suspicion that by the time I die, it'll be a relief.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79761689


Auto manufacturers won't sue. They love it. They add their profit margin on top of the cost of the breathalyzer, and don't have to worry about it because their competition does too.
 Quoting: Depluribus Unum


What if your onboard computer says you are good but the pice pull u over and on their gear you are over, will the manufacturer be responsible? Can they be sued for damages?

Who provides tech support if u are sober and the computet locks your engine, what if this causes u damages, can u file a lawsuit?

I can see reasons the automotive companies would push back on this
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78071208


Everything in a car breaks at some point, and the manufacturers are never liable. Even if your brakes go out on a hill and you plow over a playground full of kids, the manufacturers aren't liable.

Try to see this for what it is - another opportunity for the crooks in government to abuse authority to line their pockets.
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I just imagine a bunch of people with a hairdryer plugged into the cigarette lighter (what do they call it now? aux power adapter? loL) blowing into the device...

What a worthless piece of legislation...
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So when this shit technology breaks down and leaves you on the side of the highway, then what?
 Quoting: Justme C'est Moi


Same as if your transmission goes out. You're stuck until a tow truck comes. Difference is, there will be no incentive to provide quality, because it is mandatory.

Last Edited by Depluribus Unum on 08/04/2021 11:27 PM
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