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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 80170150  United States08/05/2021 04:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What this amounts to is a breach of the 4th amendment because in order to make sure people don't do exactly this type of shinanigans with older vehicles, they'll need to put GPS on them. SCOTUS has already ruled that tracking devices are vehicles without a warrent are only ok for 2 weeks at a time but requiring them to be on a vehicle at all times is unconstitutional. |
Krakalakin  User ID: 80270462 United States08/05/2021 04:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So they now want to charge you by the mile. Quoting: Mason Firefly Hello inflation. Imagine the price of goods and services when they have to add that into the price? Certainly if they are coming a long distance. A majority of Democrats are for this and 17 Republicans. https://twitter.com/_/status/1422996114593259521 use some critical thinking skills you retards. *if* this simply replaces the gas tax it will actually lower the cost of gas and put the burden of cost recovery onto those who actually use the roads. why should I have to pay a gas tax when I run my generator or mow my lawn? if I have a 5-minute commute on my local road and highway, why should I be subsidizing road repair costs for the interloper traveling from across state lines for work? A use based tax for use of public roads is better than broad based tax on fuel. |
| BRIEF User ID: 79662918 United States08/05/2021 04:29 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 80485449 United States08/05/2021 04:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So they now want to charge you by the mile. Quoting: Mason Firefly https://twitter.com/_/status/1422996114593259521 |
| sssssteve User ID: 80302767 United States08/05/2021 04:30 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77901027 United States08/05/2021 04:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78664335 United States08/05/2021 04:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 40956866 United States08/05/2021 04:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can't I just snip my odometer? Quoting: AxX How are they going to know my "miles"? Sounds like something they'd do on a CUBE PLANET. Make you report it to your insurance/when you get new tab but going forward all new cars will be able do it automatically and hell most cars from the last decade or so can probably already do it. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 80701946 08/05/2021 04:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So they now want to charge you by the mile. Quoting: Mason Firefly Hello inflation. Imagine the price of goods and services when they have to add that into the price? Certainly if they are coming a long distance. A majority of Democrats are for this and 17 Republicans. https://twitter.com/_/status/1422996114593259521 use some critical thinking skills you retards. *if* this simply replaces the gas tax it will actually lower the cost of gas and put the burden of cost recovery onto those who actually use the roads. why should I have to pay a gas tax when I run my generator or mow my lawn? if I have a 5-minute commute on my local road and highway, why should I be subsidizing road repair costs for the interloper traveling from across state lines for work? A use based tax for use of public roads is better than broad based tax on fuel. why would they remove the gas tax? because they said so? "ooops we tried as hard as we could but we couldnt do it"  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77901027 United States08/05/2021 04:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lol. Hyperbole much? This isn’t “buried”. I’m in transportation. This was a pretty prominent issue in the industry. They’ve been running these pilots for years. And yes, you will pay by the mile In the near future. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78664335 How much per mile has been discussed? I drive 3000ish miles a month for work. This is gonna hurt. The upside is it will piss off all the prius/tesla owners that think their shit don't stink. |
| Mason Firefly (OP) User ID: 79925043 United States08/05/2021 04:35 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So they now want to charge you by the mile. Quoting: Mason Firefly Hello inflation. Imagine the price of goods and services when they have to add that into the price? Certainly if they are coming a long distance. A majority of Democrats are for this and 17 Republicans. https://twitter.com/_/status/1422996114593259521 use some critical thinking skills you retards. *if* this simply replaces the gas tax it will actually lower the cost of gas and put the burden of cost recovery onto those who actually use the roads. why should I have to pay a gas tax when I run my generator or mow my lawn? if I have a 5-minute commute on my local road and highway, why should I be subsidizing road repair costs for the interloper traveling from across state lines for work? A use based tax for use of public roads is better than broad based tax on fuel. You already pay taxes for roads when you buy gas. It is factored in the price. Clearly that is news to you. In addition you pay taxes for roads when you pay for you annual registration. So this is a new tax by the mile to keep you in your area and not travel. Only the rich will be able to travel. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78190984  Australia08/05/2021 04:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | THE DEMOCRATS’ “INFRASTRUCTURE” BILL WILL ‘ENSLAVE US’ TO COMMUNIST CHINA The Democrat-sponsored bill will give $4 billion taxpayer dollars to Communist China for the “electrification” of automobiles. [link to defconnews.com (secure)] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 80701946 08/05/2021 04:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lol. Hyperbole much? This isn’t “buried”. I’m in transportation. This was a pretty prominent issue in the industry. They’ve been running these pilots for years. And yes, you will pay by the mile In the near future. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78664335 i was at USDOT in the 90s and it was being proposed back then but wireless infrastructure was too sparse and expensive. . |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 80706095  South Africa08/05/2021 04:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | your kind amuses me, quick to shout 'string em up' 'get em', but, from the sidelines, yea, you will cheer on, if someone with actual balls stands up and DOES something, but, other than that, meh, by issuing forth your proclivity, you feel asif you have no done enough, you have fought the good fight. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 80701946 08/05/2021 04:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So they now want to charge you by the mile. Quoting: Mason Firefly Hello inflation. Imagine the price of goods and services when they have to add that into the price? Certainly if they are coming a long distance. A majority of Democrats are for this and 17 Republicans. https://twitter.com/_/status/1422996114593259521 use some critical thinking skills you retards. *if* this simply replaces the gas tax it will actually lower the cost of gas and put the burden of cost recovery onto those who actually use the roads. why should I have to pay a gas tax when I run my generator or mow my lawn? if I have a 5-minute commute on my local road and highway, why should I be subsidizing road repair costs for the interloper traveling from across state lines for work? A use based tax for use of public roads is better than broad based tax on fuel. You already pay taxes for roads when you buy gas. It is factored in the price. Clearly that is news to you. In addition you pay taxes for roads when you pay for you annual registration. So this is a new tax by the mile to keep you in your area and not travel. Only the rich will be able to travel. in theory, it's a better match of supply and demand. in reality, it's a way to nab more money and justify federal jobs under the pretense of a better system. . |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79772691 Australia08/05/2021 04:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It’s is the tax they add to every gallon of gas you buy… Implementing a per user per mile charge is about putting in place all the tech to control who can go where and to penalise people with higher per mile fees if you’re deemed “unworthy” or have too low a social credit score. Travel within 10mile radius attracts x cents per mile. Travel outside and you get charged 5x cents per mile… the possibilities are endless, which are not possible by simply taxing the gas, which already achieves what they are apparently trying to achieve…. Not good. Not good at all. |
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| Original Bunnyswanson User ID: 80435198 United States08/05/2021 04:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We the sheeple deserve everything that happens to us. Until the masses put a stop to these rotten evil fucking politicians, it will keep getting worse. Term limits would be a good first step. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12762317 “ Congress was meant to be a citizen legislature. Our representatives were supposed to go to Washington, serve for a short time, then return to live under the laws they made. This vision has been lost. Congress is now a haven for career politicians who put their own power, perks and privileges ahead of public service. Even worse, they are impossible to unseat thanks to cozy connections with lobbyists and special interests. This broken system needs repair. U.S. Term Limits is fighting to call a convention under Article V of the Constitution to propose an amendment for Term Limits on the U.S. House and Senate. If we do not act now, we may never be able to bring back government of, by and for the people. Congress has a 17 percent approval rating, but a 95% re-election rate. That's because our elected leaders can abuse their power to keep away electoral challenges, which transfers power away from citizens and into the hands of unaccountable career politicians. Won’t you help us break this cycle, by signing the online petition below?” [link to www.termlimits.com (secure)] The price of liberty and even of common humanity is eternal vigilance.” —Aldous Huxley For the waywardness of the simple will kill them, and the complacency of fools will destroy them. Proverbs |
| Krakalakin User ID: 80270462 United States08/05/2021 04:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So they now want to charge you by the mile. Quoting: Mason Firefly Hello inflation. Imagine the price of goods and services when they have to add that into the price? Certainly if they are coming a long distance. A majority of Democrats are for this and 17 Republicans. https://twitter.com/_/status/1422996114593259521 use some critical thinking skills you retards. *if* this simply replaces the gas tax it will actually lower the cost of gas and put the burden of cost recovery onto those who actually use the roads. why should I have to pay a gas tax when I run my generator or mow my lawn? if I have a 5-minute commute on my local road and highway, why should I be subsidizing road repair costs for the interloper traveling from across state lines for work? A use based tax for use of public roads is better than broad based tax on fuel. You already pay taxes for roads when you buy gas. It is factored in the price. Clearly that is news to you. In addition you pay taxes for roads when you pay for you annual registration. So this is a new tax by the mile to keep you in your area and not travel. Only the rich will be able to travel. clearly it's not news to me because I said that they should replace the gas tax. like I said in my first sentence, retard.... doing it this way doesn't have to use GPS, make only the rich able to travel, or confine you to your home. each year you register your vehicle, you report your mileage. you pay a surcharge on miles traveled. if calculated legitimately, most people will probably pay less in that annual fee than in gas tax. think of all the idle time warming your vehicle, stuck at a stoplight, or mowing your lawn. if you only paid a tax on distance traveled, with a rate based on actual Capital improvement costs for public through ways, it would be cheaper that way. and only the operator of the vehicle would be paying the tax, would have nothing to do with any passenger or traveler on a bus or anything else. sometimes GLP has cream that rises to the top. other times, brian dead morans like you key smash. Last Edited by Krakalakin on 08/05/2021 04:46 PM |
| Criminals In Charge User ID: 78326493 United States08/05/2021 04:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My understanding, the government can only regulate commerce. All of those terms (motor vehicle, transportation...) are ALL commercial terms under Title 49 U.S. Code. They lack the constitutional authority to impose this on non-commercial travel. They can go f*ck themselves. My .02c |
| Vicious Deplorable dollop You ain't seen nothing yet! User ID: 80682860 United States08/05/2021 04:46 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So they now want to charge you by the mile. Quoting: Mason Firefly Hello inflation. Imagine the price of goods and services when they have to add that into the price? Certainly if they are coming a long distance. A majority of Democrats are for this and 17 Republicans. https://twitter.com/_/status/1422996114593259521 That's about control and monitoring us, not taxes. We're already taxed by the mile at the gas pumps. Drive more, pay more... without government sniffing your ass like a stray dog. Kamala Harris is not a Natural Born Citizen. She's illegally running. Used by the Founders... Book I of The Law of Nations, Chapter XIX, § 212 (Joseph Chitty numbering) – “Citizens and natives” reads: 'The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights.' 1758 Emerich de Vattel Oh' What the Hell, do I look like I want to die in some nursing home one day... America must have 4 new Constitutional Amendments... 1. Drug Tests and Mental Evaluations on all politicians and judges randomly five times per year. 2. Term Limits for Federal politicians and judges. 3. Mental and health standards for Supreme Court Justices and retirement age set. 4. A 'Star Chamber' of elected Natural Born Citizens (no attorney's) to ivestigate, try, and prosecute the politicians and government employee's as they see fit. Mandatory death penalty by public hanging is the merciful sentence for pedos and their associates. Democrats are a WMD, literally. Let Justice Be Done Though The Heavens Fall. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78190984 Australia08/05/2021 04:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | HIDDEN ON PAGE 508 OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE BILL IS A PLAN TO MAKE IT TOO EXPENSIVE TO DRIVE A CAR [link to defconnews.com (secure)] |
| BoatyMcBoatface User ID: 77825331 United States08/05/2021 04:46 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They'll be paying you per mile then. :money: ```````````````` ````__/\__`````` ~~~\____/~~~~ .~~..~~~....~~~ ~..~~~....~~~~ Thoughts do not come from you nor God; you do not create thoughts; you are not your thoughts; every thought is a lie. - 2 Corinthians 10:5 - [link to www.biblegateway.com (secure)] |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 2272340 United States08/05/2021 04:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So they now want to charge you by the mile. Quoting: Mason Firefly Hello inflation. Imagine the price of goods and services when they have to add that into the price? Certainly if they are coming a long distance. A majority of Democrats are for this and 17 Republicans. https://twitter.com/_/status/1422996114593259521 How can you even tell what the context is?! |
| Original Bunnyswanson User ID: 80435198 United States08/05/2021 04:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All problems in the world originate with the scam that is central banking Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80648591 End the central bankers and you end the scams definitely needs to happen It would change over night with a well executed hit simultaneously carried out. As we know, the element of surprise is essential. This is why they want to track us. Chip us. They are startled by noises in the [link to youtu.be (secure)] Michael takes out the heads of families scene. The price of liberty and even of common humanity is eternal vigilance.” —Aldous Huxley For the waywardness of the simple will kill them, and the complacency of fools will destroy them. Proverbs |
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