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"The Fight Has Just Begun" -Robert Barnes VivaFreiBarnes: Update even Athiesm is a Religious Exemption

 
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This was an incredible podcast.


There are law suits against mainly College or Universities at this point and in the works, against mandatory employer situations with the vaxx.

Robert Barnes said there are topics that cannot be talked about on youtube, and gives the site that he has more details.

But he went through the list of laws and approaches to the legal battles.

The Nuremburg Code overuled the old Buck V Bell SC decision, in fact that was the one that Hitler endorsed and they based their cruel and unusual experiments and Eugenics on.

The Nuremburg Code was created in the US but has world wide standing.

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Re: "The Fight Has Just Begun" -Robert Barnes VivaFreiBarnes: Update even Athiesm is a Religious Exemption
The governments, and many employers actually feel that informed consent is simply telling you, you're going to be raped now, and it has nothing to do with your consent. ie if you don't they can punish you, ie loss of employment or any other punishment.

That is not what the law states. And the Nuremburg isn't just concerning government, it covers federal, states, and local employers, and military.

It is always understood to mean that there is no pressure or punishment meted out for failure to consent.

And there are other rules and laws, such as your body, and battery. The 9th Ammendment of the Constitution.

Bodily Integrity and Medical Choice.

There are also religious exemptions that do not require you to attend a Church, and based on whats in these vaxxes and details about them, fetus parts used in the development, beliefs in this being the mark in the bible, possibly even the codes and names of ingredients that relate to satanism.

In any case. to do something to your body without consent is conspiracy to commit battery.


Punishing you for not complying or giving consent is "unconstitutional conditions".
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Re: "The Fight Has Just Begun" -Robert Barnes VivaFreiBarnes: Update even Athiesm is a Religious Exemption
The military won when they tried to force experimental anthrax on the soldiers, the soldiers won their court case.

And then the government crafted a careful new law that said under some circumstances they could override the military informed consent.

Yes but that is understood to be an extreme situation such as a terroristic government unleashing a high body count disease or pathogen, toxin.

It has nothing to do with a weak "pandemic" of this nature.
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Re: "The Fight Has Just Begun" -Robert Barnes VivaFreiBarnes: Update even Athiesm is a Religious Exemption
I don't know if the FDA will rush this, but its leaked that they will.

It takes at least 3-5 years and in practice 12 years to get an approved product out.

Not sure what will be done there but think they can be sued and the vaccine companies can be sued as well.




There are lawsuits planned or concerning employmet situations, there have been employers who have said, get the vaxx within a week or I'll can you.


Apparently alot of lawyers don't want to fight this but they don't understand that doing these mandates has never occurred before. Employers have never done this before. Its completely novel and ready for lawsuits and there are laws against this state and federal.

The one brought up about racial discrimination is very real, and it can be used especially some areas like NYC, strongly. It's a constitutional violation and the government WOULD HAVE TO PROVE THIS IS MEDICALLY NECESSARY, ie its a serious pandemic with many deaths, not just spreading. Colds/flu's spread quickly. It has to top that, and that there are no other remedies or treatments.

In other words merits or evidence will be on the line.
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Re: "The Fight Has Just Begun" -Robert Barnes VivaFreiBarnes: Update even Athiesm is a Religious Exemption
There is also the A.D.A., American's With Disabilities Act.

This seems to apply to State Employment and Private Employment.

It is a perception of somebody having a physical or mental limitation.

You must prove that your employer perceives you as limited physically/mentally in some way, not that you have a real disability. Its a perception that your employer has of any deficiency, like in immunity or vaxx immunity.




And the religious exemptions that some employees say they will strike. Um...there are multiiple statues, laws federally and state regarding religious exemptions and you don't need to have a priest or rabbi signing off, writing a letter. It doesn't require that you go to Church either. But many people due to their faith, are very concerned with how this vaxx was made.



Another category is tying into the Informed Consent, without punishment excluding you from stores or businesses, or college or work, and this is: conspiracy to commit battery!



And there is Employer FRAUD. When the employers are saying things concerning the vaxxes that are directly contradicted by the CDC's own data.


And Lastly, you would need to ask your Employer or potential Employer if their insurance covers any ill effects from teh vaccine, you would need rock solid assurances that all medical and expenses would be covered and there are reports of health insurers saying they won't cover experimental vaxxes.
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People need to arm up with this knowledge and fund raise if necessary and start to take these bastards to court.
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That the vaxxes underwent testing and development with fetal cell lines immediately creates a religious exemption for anyone with a conscience.
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Re: "The Fight Has Just Begun" -Robert Barnes VivaFreiBarnes: Update even Athiesm is a Religious Exemption
Mandates from employers violates federal and state laws, and subjects the employer to rather high risks of liability.

Alot of them changed their minds when they consulted with lawyers, and their insurance providers.

Its something every person needs to bring up with their employers, that they will be responsible if they persist and that they would need to assure employees that the insurance providers would pay out for all medical that could be caused by this experimental vaxx.

And the FDA may rush to approve, but their normal process takes 12 years. Legally they could be very challenged on approval.
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The Employers need to understand, the group they're trying to force is the silent majority across the nation, who are not going to assume that any change from healthy and enjoying life to disabled or hospitalized or dead will be pacified by a doctor saying, its a coincidence, it just magically happened but its not the vaxx, like the more programmed foolish ones who rushed into this.

The ones that you force will be taking actions and will be demanding complete compensation for injury, medical fees and death and law suits. They won't allow anyone to further add insult to injury and try to put them off.
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Re: "The Fight Has Just Begun" -Robert Barnes VivaFreiBarnes: Update even Athiesm is a Religious Exemption
By the way the first part is about the procedural error and misunderstanding of the Alberta case where the virus could be not isolated.

At about 28 minutes on is where the good legal routes and challenges are talked about.

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Re: "The Fight Has Just Begun" -Robert Barnes VivaFreiBarnes: Update even Athiesm is a Religious Exemption
The fight hasn't even started

Once it starts it will be over before it begins (remember who already lost)


People all over the world are now only observing and waiting for instructions coming through their own feelings and thoughts

From the great G.

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Re: "The Fight Has Just Begun" -Robert Barnes VivaFreiBarnes: Update even Athiesm is a Religious Exemption
Federal Law prohibits mandating this.


Unliscenced emergency-use authorization-only vaccines:


Subsection bbb-3(e)(1)(A)(ii)(III) of section 360 of Title 21 of the United States Code


The Emergency Use Authorization Section of the Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act:


Everyone, all employers, federal, state, private sector, must give all employees a choice.

This is the implementation of Nuremburg Code of 1947, International Law but created after the war to obliterate previous decisions that had led to horrendous eugenics experiments in Nazi Germany.

Not only freedom to choose, but devoid of any pressure or punishment in choosing, ie employment, restaurant usage, travel restrictions, etc. No coercion is permitted.

It also means that people must have sufficient knowledge, full understanding, of what all the risks are to their health.

Unfortunately the government already has studies on ADE being whitheld from the trial subjects and the general public prior to this program and that is very very very bad. It is genocidal.

Can hardly wait for actual law suits to go beyond employment and deal with the actual harm.

The nations where they have high levels of vaccination and in summer where no respiratory illnesses are known including sars type, to have massive outbreaks probably means ADE is starting.


The Nuremburg Code forbids mandating to military as well.

(Doe #1 v. Rumsfeld, 297 F.Supp.2d 119 (D.D.C. 2003)
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I'm putting this out because there are so many threads on these mandates and people don't know what to do.

They need to wait to be fired, not quit their jobs.

But these things are illegal in the US and Internationally. Now some of the codes may be different for disabled people in other countries, for example, but there are laws in every nation for this abuse and tyranny.

That University or College lawsuit that recently had a bad court ruling, its being appealed. Now, apparently the lawyers for the university went right back to argue that Buck v Bell was still in effect and good basically. Its not. Nuremburg Code blasted that horror out of the water and replaced this, as Hitler implemented that SC decision for his experiments and eugenics.

But that they even said that is beyond disgusting actually. And that the political hack of a judge allowed it and went against the real laws.

The Dems and Globalists think they can ignore all the real laws and precedents and interpret things in wild ways.

Such as informed consent merely means telling you you're going to be raped tonight, but if you scream No, they can punish you. That you can be fired or fprevented from participating in commerce, travel, malls and shopping.

This has many posts like pidgeon tracks all over the forum, sure you can choose but look for another job. Quit your job. Courts don't work. Etc.

This is what they want.

What they don't want is people to realize that they're not legally permitted to do these things and to stand up for themselves.

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Barnes has pointed out that even when the FDA approves this as is rumored to do soon, which violates its own rules and safety that are stringent and take 3-5 years, which translates into an average time period of 12 years. But even when they are corrupt enough to proceed in doing this: there are statutes that cover that as well.

And more information will come out about this.

I want everything compiled as a resource to use by everyone as needed.

Court Cases are mandatory, when you wade through to the good judgements they pave the way for future levels of protection to your children.

They're what helps shape the boundaries of a nation and protect it from tyrants.

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5 stars, but direct links to the videos are nice.
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5 stars, but direct links to the videos are nice.
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I've reworded points from the video in the OP, took key notes.

The video shows the link for his forum, where he has info out and again I have taken notes and will continue to.

And that is from letters/articles that go into the key defenses.

That is one you sign up for and its low cost but not free. So, not able to link, just rewording key points made.

Key defenses.

The video which has most of this, the part pertaining to the key legal covid starts at about 28 minutes and its quite in depth. He went into the Nuremburg, basically started with the old SC Buck Vs. Bell. He also differentiated with that and the Jacobson one in 1905 that had some science behind it.

The Buck Vs. Bell is the one the Nazi's used. And its the one the recent bad ruling for a University literally used, the lawyers used this evil and overturned already ruling as if its still applicable.

They ignored that the Nuremburg Code of 1947 blasted that out of the water and set Federal and International Law.

He goes into the various methods including Discrimination Cases such as applicable to NYC, because the majority of Blacks have not taken the shot and this would horribly discriminate against them, into the ADA, disability act that also has perception of limitations, and in that case the employer has the lion's share of having to prove with real science, not the current lies and politica science, the points, and that there is no other applicable remedy to accommodate such as staying home when sick like every other year.

Its very in depth from 28 minutes on.

But there is extra points on their website that I wanted to share as well including for religious exemptions:

That fetal abortion-derived cell line HEK-293 was used in the development of the vaxx and also that you don't need a ministers letter of exemption and you don't have to attend a church or temple of any kind. In fact details are probably none of their business.

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Re: "The Fight Has Just Begun" -Robert Barnes VivaFreiBarnes: Update even Athiesm is a Religious Exemption
Again the purpose of this thread is to have a resource so anyone who wants a defense and needs to see what the laws are can get going on challenging.

And they've been trying to reinterpret the Nuremburg Code to mean yes you have a right to refuse the vaxx, not they seem to give people information, so its informed, they don't give them the true dangers and data on the vaxx, so they're violating this anyway. But yes you can refuse but we can fire you. You can be punished for refusal.

No you can't. No loss or coercion may take place.

None.


Also more information is going to be up due to the FDA leaks and rumors that they're going to in corrupt form, approve this dangerous vaxx quickly. When their own rules are 3-5 years and on average that means 12.

There will be statutes and laws given in that scenario.

It doesn't stop then.

I'm not sure but sort of gathered from the video in the OP that harm has to take place, in other words you have to wait for the firing to take place before the law suit.

To have standing.
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that’s wonderful theater fantasy talk, the real world ids mandated injections as a condition for employment or to purchase food or housing .
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that’s wonderful theater fantasy talk, the real world ids mandated injections as a condition for employment or to purchase food or housing .
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Either courts or people will end that. We start with the legal. If not then its rise up and take the bad guys out.

What isn't an option is allowing them to murder everyone or tyranny.

I believe a few good wins will turn this around and that seeing higher mind principles, praying, envisioning, expecting, believing will bring about wins and an end to tyranny.

Strikes, rallies and protests might be needed as well.

Also the red hurts my eyes.

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Re: "The Fight Has Just Begun" -Robert Barnes VivaFreiBarnes: Update even Athiesm is a Religious Exemption
Here are a few resources:

America's Frontline Doctors
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Vaccines & The Law
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Vaccine Notice Letter for any University or Employer making mandates (pdf)
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Join the AFLD Class-Action Suit
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Educational/Culpability Form to give to your employer (pdf)
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Educational/Culpability Form to give to your university (pdf)
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Notice of Liability for Schools (pdf)
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Community Action/Citizen Corps Spotlights
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Notice of Liability for Vaccine Administers (pdf)
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Legal case against Houston Methodist San Jacinto Hospital's vax mandate (pdf)
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Barnes is a cunt.
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STOP VAXXING KIDS ! MASSIVE LAWSUIT AGAINST DHHS FILED
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SUMMIT SESSIONS: The Law
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SUMMIT SESSIONS: The Law ~ Sheldon Karasik, JD ~ “How to Obtain a Religious Exemption”
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SUMMIT SESSIONS: The Law ~ Laurie Brander ~ “Citizens Asserting Their Legal Rights”
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SUMMIT SESSIONS: The Law ~ Joey Gilbert, Esq ~ “AFLDS Strategic Litigation”
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SUMMIT SESSIONS: The Law ~ Jim Bopp, JD ~ “Current Litigation: Clarifying Current Law”
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SUMMIT SESSIONS: The Law ~ Simone Gold, MD, JD ~ “Informed Consent: A Doctor/Lawyer Perspective”
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Dr. Peter McCullough: Universities Mandating Vaccines are Backing Off
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FRONTLINE FORUM: Freedom Of Movement
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Dr. Simone Gold | The Fight Against Medical Corruption
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Wake-Up Call to the World
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It’s Here: First Court Case Against Mandatory Vaccination: Attorney Interview
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#MalkinLive: Stop Medical Discrimination
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Imagine a vaccine so safe that the government has to coerce you to take it... for a virus so deadly that you have to be tested to find out if you have it.

Just a reminder...
A genuine pandemic doesn't require 24/7 advertising to remind you that it exists.
Real pandemics don't need marketing campaigns and endless propaganda..but, psychological operations DO
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I like Barnes, but he underestimates the power of the people. People are not stupid (at least half of the population). They will just find a way around anything sort of mandates.
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Imagine a vaccine so safe that the government has to coerce you to take it... for a virus so deadly that you have to be tested to find out if you have it.

Just a reminder...
A genuine pandemic doesn't require 24/7 advertising to remind you that it exists.
Real pandemics don't need marketing campaigns and endless propaganda..but, psychological operations DO
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