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MAC SOG Vietnam era were some of the most hardcore fighters that ever existed!

 
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MAC SOG Vietnam era were some of the most hardcore fighters that ever existed!
People thump their chests and say they were this or that but MAC SOG operators were as hardcore as they get.

Until recently all of their experiences were classified. Incredible. Brave!
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My Dad knew an Operator who would get dropped behind enemy lines for 3 weeks at a time with a sniper rifle.....Kill as many as possible....don't get caught...Pick you up at "X" 30-50 miles away in 3 weeks...

He got wounded one time during exfil and woke up already in a body bag on the helo when they landed....

THEY WERE BAD MFers!!
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LOL

They still managed to lose the war.
Imagine Charlie living right under you all that time in country.
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My Dad knew an Operator who would get dropped behind enemy lines for 3 weeks at a time with a sniper rifle.....Kill as many as possible....don't get caught...Pick you up at "X" 30-50 miles away in 3 weeks...

He got wounded one time during exfil and woke up already in a body bag on the helo when they landed....

THEY WERE BAD MFers!!
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LOL

They still managed to lose the war.
Imagine Charlie living right under you all that time in country.
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Coming in second aint bad.

Youre always last at everything bruh.

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LOL

They still managed to lose the war.
Imagine Charlie living right under you all that time in country.
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Dumbass there is no money in winning a war. America has not had a reason to win a war since WW2. Conflicts are about resource extraction, bases, and regional/ trade lane control.

Nam ended exactly as planned maximum profits. Having to rebuild a country when you already got everything you wanted makes no sense. Much less killing civilians in numbers that might bring harsh words.
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All those walkabouts looking for Charlie.

It was a true shovel ready job back at the base.
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LOL

They still managed to lose the war.
Imagine Charlie living right under you all that time in country.
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I hope you are French that is shame enough for anyone.
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LOL

They still managed to lose the war.
Imagine Charlie living right under you all that time in country.
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I hope you are French that is shame enough for anyone.
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The same French in revolt over covid passports you crave.

Guilty then... Consider me Black French Irishman.
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Ah, the time Agent Orange man was bad.

Tried killing an entire jungle looking for Charlie living under his bases.
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LOL

They still managed to lose the war.
Imagine Charlie living right under you all that time in country.
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I hope you are French that is shame enough for anyone.
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The same French in revolt over covid passports you crave.

Guilty then... Consider me Black French Irishman.
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Ah how’s that going you going to throw rocks at them.
There is a reason we don’t have water cannons here. It involves a god given right recognized here. We don’t need a revolt or riot, just to know there is no other options.
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Yeah but growing up with one is like reliving vietnam.
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Re: MAC SOG Vietnam era were some of the most hardcore fighters that ever existed!
My Dad knew an Operator who would get dropped behind enemy lines for 3 weeks at a time with a sniper rifle.....Kill as many as possible....don't get caught...Pick you up at "X" 30-50 miles away in 3 weeks...

He got wounded one time during exfil and woke up already in a body bag on the helo when they landed....

THEY WERE BAD MFers!!
 Quoting: 7.62


My brother did three tours in Nam as an advisor to the ARVN and they worshipped him like a god and gave him medals galore because he knew what he was doing and was a badass. The VC/NVA avoided his outfits like the plague--if they could. My brother was relatively fearless, but he was afraid of the HALO jumping hell raising, independent operators and professional assassins of the SOG groups. They were given improbable and impossible missions deep in Injun country, and were on their own often for weeks at a time. Not for the unfit or the faint of heart. The stories were unbelievable, if you could get one to talk. Go anywhere-do anything-come back and get ready for the next one.
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Re: MAC SOG Vietnam era were some of the most hardcore fighters that ever existed!
My Dad knew an Operator who would get dropped behind enemy lines for 3 weeks at a time with a sniper rifle.....Kill as many as possible....don't get caught...Pick you up at "X" 30-50 miles away in 3 weeks...

He got wounded one time during exfil and woke up already in a body bag on the helo when they landed....

THEY WERE BAD MFers!!
 Quoting: 7.62


My brother did three tours in Nam as an advisor to the ARVN and they worshipped him like a god and gave him medals galore because he knew what he was doing and was a badass. The VC/NVA avoided his outfits like the plague--if they could. My brother was relatively fearless, but he was afraid of the HALO jumping hell raising, independent operators and professional assassins of the SOG groups. They were given improbable and impossible missions deep in Injun country, and were on their own often for weeks at a time. Not for the unfit or the faint of heart. The stories were unbelievable, if you could get one to talk. Go anywhere-do anything-come back and get ready for the next one.
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Re: MAC SOG Vietnam era were some of the most hardcore fighters that ever existed!
My Dad knew an Operator who would get dropped behind enemy lines for 3 weeks at a time with a sniper rifle.....Kill as many as possible....don't get caught...Pick you up at "X" 30-50 miles away in 3 weeks...

He got wounded one time during exfil and woke up already in a body bag on the helo when they landed....

THEY WERE BAD MFers!!
 Quoting: 7.62


My brother did three tours in Nam as an advisor to the ARVN and they worshipped him like a god and gave him medals galore because he knew what he was doing and was a badass. The VC/NVA avoided his outfits like the plague--if they could. My brother was relatively fearless, but he was afraid of the HALO jumping hell raising, independent operators and professional assassins of the SOG groups. They were given improbable and impossible missions deep in Injun country, and were on their own often for weeks at a time. Not for the unfit or the faint of heart. The stories were unbelievable, if you could get one to talk. Go anywhere-do anything-come back and get ready for the next one.
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I can't even imagine the mental fortitude. Men of an extremely rare caliber.

I did some digging and watched some YouTube on them. Most units took 90 to 100% casualties. There were only a couple hundred of these guys at any given timein SOG.

They didn't look like Schwarzenegger either. They were lean and fit.

The Shriver story is incredible.

I'm impressed OP. Thanks for the introduction.
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People thump their chests and say they were this or that but MAC SOG operators were as hardcore as they get.

Until recently all of their experiences were classified. Incredible. Brave!
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True.
Kamala Harris is not a Natural Born Citizen. She's illegally running.

Used by the Founders...
Book I of The Law of Nations, Chapter XIX, § 212 (Joseph Chitty numbering) – “Citizens and natives”
reads: 'The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to
its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in
the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by
the children of the citizens
, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all
their rights.' 1758 Emerich de Vattel

Oh' What the Hell, do I look like I want to die in some nursing home one day...
America must have 4 new Constitutional Amendments...
1. Drug Tests and Mental Evaluations on all politicians and judges randomly five times per year.
2. Term Limits for Federal politicians and judges.
3. Mental and health standards for Supreme Court Justices and retirement age set.
4. A 'Star Chamber' of elected Natural Born Citizens (no attorney's) to ivestigate, try, and prosecute the politicians and government employee's as they see fit.

Mandatory death penalty by public hanging is the merciful sentence for pedos and their associates.

Democrats are a WMD, literally.

Let Justice Be Done Though The Heavens Fall.
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Re: MAC SOG Vietnam era were some of the most hardcore fighters that ever existed!
LOL

They still managed to lose the war.
Imagine Charlie living right under you all that time in country.
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You're very wrong.

The Joint Chiefs of Staff and Politicians lose wars.

Our military slaughtered the commie Vietnamese by the millions.
Kamala Harris is not a Natural Born Citizen. She's illegally running.

Used by the Founders...
Book I of The Law of Nations, Chapter XIX, § 212 (Joseph Chitty numbering) – “Citizens and natives”
reads: 'The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to
its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in
the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by
the children of the citizens
, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all
their rights.' 1758 Emerich de Vattel

Oh' What the Hell, do I look like I want to die in some nursing home one day...
America must have 4 new Constitutional Amendments...
1. Drug Tests and Mental Evaluations on all politicians and judges randomly five times per year.
2. Term Limits for Federal politicians and judges.
3. Mental and health standards for Supreme Court Justices and retirement age set.
4. A 'Star Chamber' of elected Natural Born Citizens (no attorney's) to ivestigate, try, and prosecute the politicians and government employee's as they see fit.

Mandatory death penalty by public hanging is the merciful sentence for pedos and their associates.

Democrats are a WMD, literally.

Let Justice Be Done Though The Heavens Fall.
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Re: MAC SOG Vietnam era were some of the most hardcore fighters that ever existed!
LOL

They still managed to lose the war.
Imagine Charlie living right under you all that time in country.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77055715


You're very wrong.

The Joint Chiefs of Staff and Politicians lose wars.

Our military slaughtered the commie Vietnamese by the millions.
 Quoting: Vicious Deplorable dollop


What few realize is that war was actually about promoting communism.
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Re: MAC SOG Vietnam era were some of the most hardcore fighters that ever existed!
LOL

They still managed to lose the war.
Imagine Charlie living right under you all that time in country.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77055715


You're very wrong.

The Joint Chiefs of Staff and Politicians lose wars.

Our military slaughtered the commie Vietnamese by the millions.
 Quoting: Vicious Deplorable dollop






The kill ratio of these SOG guys were incredible.

They also took heavy casualties. Casualties that would be unacceptable in today's military.
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Re: MAC SOG Vietnam era were some of the most hardcore fighters that ever existed!
LOL

They still managed to lose the war.
Imagine Charlie living right under you all that time in country.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77055715


You're very wrong.

The Joint Chiefs of Staff and Politicians lose wars.

Our military slaughtered the commie Vietnamese by the millions.
 Quoting: Vicious Deplorable dollop






The kill ratio of these SOG guys were incredible.

They also took heavy casualties. Casualties that would be unacceptable in today's military.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78532976








^^ this ^^
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Re: MAC SOG Vietnam era were some of the most hardcore fighters that ever existed!
My Dad knew an Operator who would get dropped behind enemy lines for 3 weeks at a time with a sniper rifle.....Kill as many as possible....don't get caught...Pick you up at "X" 30-50 miles away in 3 weeks...

He got wounded one time during exfil and woke up already in a body bag on the helo when they landed....

THEY WERE BAD MFers!!
 Quoting: 7.62


My brother did three tours in Nam as an advisor to the ARVN and they worshipped him like a god and gave him medals galore because he knew what he was doing and was a badass. The VC/NVA avoided his outfits like the plague--if they could. My brother was relatively fearless, but he was afraid of the HALO jumping hell raising, independent operators and professional assassins of the SOG groups. They were given improbable and impossible missions deep in Injun country, and were on their own often for weeks at a time. Not for the unfit or the faint of heart. The stories were unbelievable, if you could get one to talk. Go anywhere-do anything-come back and get ready for the next one.
 Quoting: tko


My brother a LRRP in NAM won the Bronze Star.

Real brave.

LEGION
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Re: MAC SOG Vietnam era were some of the most hardcore fighters that ever existed!
My Dad knew an Operator who would get dropped behind enemy lines for 3 weeks at a time with a sniper rifle.....Kill as many as possible....don't get caught...Pick you up at "X" 30-50 miles away in 3 weeks...

He got wounded one time during exfil and woke up already in a body bag on the helo when they landed....

THEY WERE BAD MFers!!
 Quoting: 7.62


My brother did three tours in Nam as an advisor to the ARVN and they worshipped him like a god and gave him medals galore because he knew what he was doing and was a badass. The VC/NVA avoided his outfits like the plague--if they could. My brother was relatively fearless, but he was afraid of the HALO jumping hell raising, independent operators and professional assassins of the SOG groups. They were given improbable and impossible missions deep in Injun country, and were on their own often for weeks at a time. Not for the unfit or the faint of heart. The stories were unbelievable, if you could get one to talk. Go anywhere-do anything-come back and get ready for the next one.
 Quoting: tko







I can't even imagine the mental fortitude. Men of an extremely rare caliber.

I did some digging and watched some YouTube on them. Most units took 90 to 100% casualties. There were only a couple hundred of these guys at any given timein SOG.

They didn't look like Schwarzenegger either. They were lean and fit.

The Shriver story is incredible.

I'm impressed OP. Thanks for the introduction.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78532976









Watched a Jerry Shriver story on YouTube. Mad Dog they called him. Tough as fucking nails! 3 years of combat. A truly heroic and depressingly sad ending. I wonder now what ever happened to his dog Klaus.
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Re: MAC SOG Vietnam era were some of the most hardcore fighters that ever existed!
LOL

They still managed to lose the war.
Imagine Charlie living right under you all that time in country.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77055715


You're very wrong.

The Joint Chiefs of Staff and Politicians lose wars.

Our military slaughtered the commie Vietnamese by the millions.
 Quoting: Vicious Deplorable dollop






The kill ratio of these SOG guys were incredible.

They also took heavy casualties. Casualties that would be unacceptable in today's military.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78532976






A bakers dozen gets killed these days and you'd think the world is ending.

Back in Vietnam it was daily routine and par for the course.
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Re: MAC SOG Vietnam era were some of the most hardcore fighters that ever existed!
I have read the S.O.G book 3 or 4 times now. The shit they did made Rambo look like a pussy! I have put that book down just shaking my head at what those guys did and lived through! One story about accidently getting dropped off in the middle of a NVA overnight camp by accident was crazy !





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