British Physicist Julian Barbour: "It is remarkably difficult to say categorically whether the Earth moves, and if so, in what precise sense...

Thank you. This mathematician Stephen M Phillips deduces these numbers from the word for God when God says I AM that I AM. The I AM part turned out to be a set of numbers that correlated to the Torus which is the universe. Catholic thought puts Satan at the centre of the Earth. God encompasses to the furthest end of the universe. Spiritually the holy mass is keeping our Earth stable at The Center of the universe. If we cease to offer even one holy mass one day on our Earth it would start to implode.

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Hawking was braindead while he was in that talking wheelchair and they were just putting words in his mouth with it.

Wrong.

A bubble of water will form a spherical shape in weightlessness because the forces being applied to its mass holding it together are equal in all directions. If you rotate this "bubble" after it forms it becomes an oblate sphere, just like a planet. On a rotating mass centripetal acceleration and thus force is greatest the farthest from the axis of rotation

Actually the complexity would be equal. It has to be. Think about all of the motions the planet is moving in simultaneously, around the sun as it rotates on its axis and wobbles, and the solar system revolves around the center of the galaxy, and the galaxy moves away from other galaxies as they also rotate. It is just as simple to create one frame of reference in the same system as another, which is by the way supposed to be fundamental to that particular theory.

So from a scientific and specifically a relativity point of view it is really not possible to say whether it is the planet moving or everything else, especialy since we already know everything else IS moving

There is a video of the stars spinning around in a wheel pattern over a timelapse video. It is seen all the time, it set in its pattern in the sky always has been. Truth no one has a picture of our earth or home, it is whatever it is. There is a lot said that has not been proved, it was all a theory, if fit with their belief systems really, they worship their ideas, it doesn't make them true. It was very hard for them to make a round map, though they wanted that perfection they didn't get it. It all happened after they discovered Antarctica, which was way back in history by sailors, parts of it were named after Queen Victoria. That even happened years later, there are 1500 AD maps with it on it. There are even stories from a sailor who followed the coastline of Antarctica, which does not fit what we are told today, very strange what was told.

If you studied history in high school, you should have learned about the flat map and the time and problems, they had with making the round map, I don't think it was totally about meaning the earth was round, more like having it divide up in Longitude and Lattitude, an easier way to read and see the maps, quick references all on that globe shape it has all of the instruments all on the bar that holds it together, much as a sexton with a map in it. They still were doing the flat earth during this time frame. The only person that said anything about the earth going around the sun was Sir Isaac Newton; he did archives and saw a reference to the guy in Egypt who said he did an experiment that proved the earth was round and traveled around the sun. One thing that is not mentioning is that the guy was a sun god worshiper. I think the guy was Capernaum the guy from Egypt, who could not have been able to be at one place and measure and at the other place two hundred miles away, everything had to be measure at the same time. No one else did the same science test and all that had to be done, some jump on this as if the guy was the best thing since wheat bread came about.

They know now since 2013 when their probe they sent up to check the space under the Lense over us, that it has an effect of distorting light which causes changes in what you view from a telescope. It had all to do with an ELE event object they saw and believed we as a world was going by, by.
They never spoke of it publicly, they were going to allow us peace until the end, not so nice really. The thing was it disappeared, then they sent up that probe to see what happened. Whatever the information was, the insanity started because it proved the earth didn't move and everything was from the earth, we view everything in space. This happened to mess up a lot of people's theories and life work so the insanity of telling or keeping it secret started. I guess they mostly kept it secret. I do occasionally see some different studies happening with what our Universe is truly made up from and what makes it work.

I just know their stories before never fit what I watched, laying on my back on a blanket watch the clouds fly by and at times never moving much at all, weather patterns disproved the idea that the earth was speeding around so fast we didn't notice it, bull, it would stare up to pieces and the bubble bee with never fly. It is the upper air currents that bring in the clouds as it does all the other.
weather.

Truth in the fine point of what shape it is doesn't matter because it is our world, we live here and that the point, keeping it in good shape is the best idea and living through the earth growing pains, I like to call it growing pains, because it makes new land, island and changes thing from place to place it adds land masses seemingly overnight. It will hold a lot of people because it grows to make more room.

The path the earth takes through space is very complicated. Since it is orbiting the Sun and the Solar System is moving around the center of the galaxy itself (while bobbing up and down through an arm of the galaxy BTW), this would make a curved spiraling path WITHIN OUR GALAXY, like a flattened out slinky stretched out around the galaxy over 250 million years . But it gets even more complicated than that because the galaxy is moving in relation to other galaxies, both spinning and moving away.


There is no simple model but the most logical point of reference is the earth, since we are on it moving with it as it moves. When I watch the sun or the moon in the sky, it moves and I dont in my frame of reference. I hope this has been helpful..

The problem making a flat map to represent relative distances accurately on a spherical surface was solved by the invention of the ..wait for it...GLOBE The earth is not flat. Period. End of discussion.

My point is it is NOT centripetal force (which is radially inward) that is acting on earth and giving it an oblate spheroid shape, but centrifugal force which is radially outward.

Centrifugal force is not an inherent force of the earth unlike earth's gravity which is produced by earth's mass. This means the centrifugal force earth is subjected to is caused by another object which in this case is the universe or space surrounding it and rotating around it.

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The big bang theory is not a valid theory for the simple reason it violated too many known laws of thermodynamics, laws which have never been disproved or even drawn into serious question.

. For instance you can get energy from matter or matter from energy but the law of conservation of energy and matter preclude "nothing" from exploding and creating everything. Another fundamental flaw is entropy, that is systems decay over time they dont become more complex, UNLESS there is artificial manipulation, building, creation, engineering.

The earth was engineered to support life. It has a moving molten metal core to create a magnetic field, it is exactly the right distance from the sun, its atmosphere is self regulating and of the proper proportions, it has seasons to make life more evenly spread. Too many complex interactions dependent upon each other to be random.

Actually the centrifugal force at the equator has a measurable effect on perceived gravitational force, You are moving at 1000 miles an hour at a distance of 4000 miles from the center of rotation. The reason you feel nothing is because the earth is taking a whole day to make one rotation. It is theorized that the reason the dinosaurs were able to grow so big is gravity was less due to a much faster rotation

. ANy trucker will tell you it takes noticeably less fuel to drive south than it does north on he same highway, and this is due to the truck being acted upon by centripetal acceleration.

Globe earth is the easiest conspiracy to see when your eyes are opened! It makes no sense. You can see the same stars on the same dates year after year after year. Not possible if you’re spinning at 1000 mph, traveling around the sun at 66,000 mph in a universe that’s moving as well.

We see wayyyy to far!

He was diagnosed with ALS. He lived yeaaarrrrs beyond the life expectancy. I think he may have died and they stuck in a (not so much) look a like. Then they put words in his mouth.

Could be wrong but ALS he should have died a long time ago.

Almost all of the stars we can see are within our own rotating galaxies frame of reference and so are we. there is no reason to think their positions would change in other than cyclic repeating patterns

Drops of water on the surface of a globe, spun really fast. Where do the water drops go ? Can you predict it without even doing the experiment?

I have a relativity problem for the eggheads here, lets see if they get it right.
If no one can answer this question I think it is probably time to waste my time elsewhere, because this one is extremely easy.



Calculate the time dilation over a year between the time registered on a clock on the equator and one on the north pole.

When you rotate a water bubble, you are not rotating the entire bubble. You are only rotating the loose surface of the bubble which produces the centrifugal force on the inner, denser, and stationary core forcing it to take the shape of an oblate spheroid.

Dude, science ain't your bag

Can you prove otherwise?

I dont have to.
The rotation of the bubble was part of a hypothetical problem, you have to ASSUME that part.

And of course in the case of a small water bubble the difference in density between the inner core and its outer surface is small compared with masses as big as that of the earth.

If you can't prove otherwise then your hypothesis is no better than mine.

Dude a hypothetical part of a problem is a given.

Do you understand that? We are trying t find an answer based on those conditions, in this case the bubble of water is rotated. Not some of it, all of it.

The problem with your hypothesis is that you are assuming your knowledge is right while contrary opinion is wrong.

Now if you want a better hypothetical example, we can use denser objects like a solid metal ball. When you rotate a solid metal ball with equal density, then the centripetal force acting on the entirely rotating ball should cause the metal ball to take the form of a cylinder because the centripetal force at its equator is stronger than at its poles. However a solid and dense metal ball also has a strong tensile strength which will resist this deformation, and unless you produce a strong centripetal force large enough to overcome its tensile strength this deformation will not be observed.

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Dude thats a word salad

Just a bunch of gibberish.

You appear to know the words , but not in what order to put them

Is this the best argument you can give? How very scientific of you, NOT!

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I guess no one is going to attempt this, I'll give you a hint, you don't have to have a calculator and you dont have to use a formula.

The answer is based on the fact that the two clocks are stationary in the same frame of reference, not moving in relation to each other and thus there is no difference in the passage of time observed between the two.

I asked this question because it was on my high school physics test and EVERYONE got it wrong because they calculated for a speed of zero with clock "A" at the pole and 1000 mph with clock "B" on the equator, and the right answer wasn't even on the answers we had to chose from..

I'm just saying, I cant tell what you're talking about but I am pretty sure it isn't the same thing I am

And since the earth is not cylindrical but an oblate spheroid, this mean centrifugal force and not centripetal force is acting on the earth. Which also means earth is not spinning but the loose space surrounding it.

Of course I am not saying the same thing you are saying because our opinions disagree, duh.

Um, NO. You have it all wrong. Centrifugal force refers to the force imparted upon matter by rotation around a central axis, centripetal refers to acceleration, Centripetal force is the force required to impart that circular motion