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Trump calls the Taliban 'good fighters' who are 'really smart' and erroneously says the group has been around for 1,000 years
Former President Donald Trump praised the Taliban on Tuesday, calling the group "smart" and "good fighters."

"The Taliban, good fighters, I will tell you, good fighters. You have to give them credit for that. They've been fighting for a thousand years. What they do is they fight," Trump said on Fox News' "The Sean Hannity Show" on August 17.

"The Taliban has circled the airport, and who knows if they're going to treat us right? All of a sudden, they'll say — well, frankly, if they were smart, they'd really — and they are smart. They are smart. They should let the Americans out," Trump said to Hannity.

But Trump's claim that the Taliban has been around for 1,000 years is erroneous. The organization was founded in September 1994 in Kandahar, Afghanistan. Composed of fighters called the mujahideen, the group took control of the capital, Kabul, in 1996, but it lost power in 2001 after American forces invaded.


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Re: Trump calls the Taliban 'good fighters' who are 'really smart' and erroneously says the group has been around for 1,000 years
Oh well, he was only off by 993 years, cut him some slack.

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Re: Trump calls the Taliban 'good fighters' who are 'really smart' and erroneously says the group has been around for 1,000 years
Oh well, he was only off by 993 years, cut him some slack.

chuckle
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...what's a few centuries, really?
"I'm more concerned with knowing the truth than feeling good about it."

"War is when the government tells you who the enemy is, revolution is when you figure it out yourself."

"Being a visionary is a blessing and a curse...you're blessed to see what other people can't, but cursed to sit in it alone"
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Oh well, he was only off by 993 years, cut him some slack.

chuckle
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...what's a few centuries, really?
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Enjoy the show, all the world’s a stage!
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Re: Trump calls the Taliban 'good fighters' who are 'really smart' and erroneously says the group has been around for 1,000 years
Oh well, he was only off by 993 years, cut him some slack.

chuckle
 Quoting: LTHN.


more like 973.

You can't math well.

It's ok.

He's trying to calm the situation. If you can't see that you don't know what a good leader is.

See the issue isn't that trump said bad things.

Or that he said things that the left didn't like.

The issue is that the left has gotten their fucking way for 60 fucking years and couldn't stand anyone telling them no.

The Taliban is composed of Afghans. The Afghans have been around for over 1300 years and have fought against invasion the entire time.

If you knew your head from your asshole you would know this.

Open a book.
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Re: Trump calls the Taliban 'good fighters' who are 'really smart' and erroneously says the group has been around for 1,000 years
Hmm lets see.

Saying the Taliban has been around longer than they really have vs lighting the middle east up on fire.

I'll take erroneous timeline for 1000 years Alex.
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Oh well, he was only off by 993 years, cut him some slack.

chuckle
 Quoting: LTHN.


more like 973.

You can't math well.

It's ok.

He's trying to calm the situation. If you can't see that you don't know what a good leader is.

See the issue isn't that trump said bad things.

Or that he said things that the left didn't like.

The issue is that the left has gotten their fucking way for 60 fucking years and couldn't stand anyone telling them no.

The Taliban is composed of Afghans. The Afghans have been around for over 1300 years and have fought against invasion the entire time.

If you knew your head from your asshole you would know this.

Open a book.
 Quoting: SagoP


Yeah, my late night math was off on that.
Regardless, I thought President Trump did good things for America, and I wish he would still be president,.
Doesn’t mean he is perfect, and occasionally I find a bit of humour in his mistaken words.
Chill man.
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Re: Trump calls the Taliban 'good fighters' who are 'really smart' and erroneously says the group has been around for 1,000 years
Hmm lets see.

Saying the Taliban has been around longer than they really have vs lighting the middle east up on fire.

I'll take erroneous timeline for 1000 years Alex.
 Quoting: SagoP


Why would he hide the fact that they were created by the CIA, or why would he not know that fact, if he is supposedly waging war on the CIA and deep state?
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I’m not sure I understand the issue….are you trying to start another “fine people” hoax? Do you really not understand what “good fighters” means???? wtf
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Re: Trump calls the Taliban 'good fighters' who are 'really smart' and erroneously says the group has been around for 1,000 years
Please people it is easy to find out they have been around for over 20 years...not 7
From 1996 to 2001, the Taliban held power over roughly three-quarters of Afghanistan, and enforced a strict interpretation of Sharia, or Islamic law.
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Re: Trump calls the Taliban 'good fighters' who are 'really smart' and erroneously says the group has been around for 1,000 years
Oh well, he was only off by 993 years, cut him some slack.

chuckle
 Quoting: LTHN.


more like 973.

You can't math well.

It's ok.

He's trying to calm the situation. If you can't see that you don't know what a good leader is.

See the issue isn't that trump said bad things.

Or that he said things that the left didn't like.

The issue is that the left has gotten their fucking way for 60 fucking years and couldn't stand anyone telling them no.

The Taliban is composed of Afghans. The Afghans have been around for over 1300 years and have fought against invasion the entire time.

If you knew your head from your asshole you would know this.

Open a book.
 Quoting: SagoP


...relax, it's just an article quoting some things that some guy said...don't get your panties in a bunch trying to explain your interpretation...5a
"I'm more concerned with knowing the truth than feeling good about it."

"War is when the government tells you who the enemy is, revolution is when you figure it out yourself."

"Being a visionary is a blessing and a curse...you're blessed to see what other people can't, but cursed to sit in it alone"
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I’m not sure I understand the issue….are you trying to start another “fine people” hoax? Do you really not understand what “good fighters” means???? wtf
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...did you read the actual article or just what was posted?
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"War is when the government tells you who the enemy is, revolution is when you figure it out yourself."

"Being a visionary is a blessing and a curse...you're blessed to see what other people can't, but cursed to sit in it alone"
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Re: Trump calls the Taliban 'good fighters' who are 'really smart' and erroneously says the group has been around for 1,000 years
By any name they have been around a thousand years, never left their birth place nor mixed bloodlines (until only recent in history when oil imports in the middle east became a means of cheap fuel) They have been at war for most if not of all their history and never defeated. Same bunch of relatives. Call me Taliban give me an identity now no one cared to name them before when we just called them other not so nice names, no one cared, we are forced to care now.
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Re: Trump calls the Taliban 'good fighters' who are 'really smart' and erroneously says the group has been around for 1,000 years
Hmm lets see.

Saying the Taliban has been around longer than they really have vs lighting the middle east up on fire.

I'll take erroneous timeline for 1000 years Alex.
 Quoting: SagoP


Why would he hide the fact that they were created by the CIA, or why would he not know that fact, if he is supposedly waging war on the CIA and deep state?
 Quoting: Terry Funk


...they made it even more obvious when they "left" Blackhawk helicopters, guns and ammunition for them...why do you think the president fled and the country surrendered so quickly?
"I'm more concerned with knowing the truth than feeling good about it."

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Oh well, he was only off by 993 years, cut him some slack.

chuckle
 Quoting: LTHN.


more like 973.

You can't math well.

It's ok.

He's trying to calm the situation. If you can't see that you don't know what a good leader is.

See the issue isn't that trump said bad things.

Or that he said things that the left didn't like.

The issue is that the left has gotten their fucking way for 60 fucking years and couldn't stand anyone telling them no.

The Taliban is composed of Afghans. The Afghans have been around for over 1300 years and have fought against invasion the entire time.

If you knew your head from your asshole you would know this.

Open a book.
 Quoting: SagoP


...relax, it's just an article quoting some things that some guy said...don't get your panties in a bunch trying to explain your interpretation...5a
 Quoting: Baal Molech


So you’re gonna spin what he says and if we call you on it, we’re wrong.

Got it.

FFS
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Re: Trump calls the Taliban 'good fighters' who are 'really smart' and erroneously says the group has been around for 1,000 years
Oh well, he was only off by 993 years, cut him some slack.

chuckle
 Quoting: LTHN.


more like 973.

You can't math well.

It's ok.

He's trying to calm the situation. If you can't see that you don't know what a good leader is.

See the issue isn't that trump said bad things.

Or that he said things that the left didn't like.

The issue is that the left has gotten their fucking way for 60 fucking years and couldn't stand anyone telling them no.

The Taliban is composed of Afghans. The Afghans have been around for over 1300 years and have fought against invasion the entire time.

If you knew your head from your asshole you would know this.

Open a book.
 Quoting: SagoP


...relax, it's just an article quoting some things that some guy said...don't get your panties in a bunch trying to explain your interpretation...5a
 Quoting: Baal Molech


So you’re gonna spin what he says and if we call you on it, we’re wrong.

Got it.

FFS
 Quoting: NeroAxia


lol...did you even bother to read the article, or do you just get defensive whenever your emperor gets mentioned? How can I spin what he said by simply posting a portion of and a link to an article written by someone else? Critical thinking shouldn't be that difficult for an adult...

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"I'm more concerned with knowing the truth than feeling good about it."

"War is when the government tells you who the enemy is, revolution is when you figure it out yourself."

"Being a visionary is a blessing and a curse...you're blessed to see what other people can't, but cursed to sit in it alone"
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Re: Trump calls the Taliban 'good fighters' who are 'really smart' and erroneously says the group has been around for 1,000 years
He called Swedes "really smart" too.

I think this kind of dumb praise is just his brain farting when he talks about something he knows nothing whatsoever about.

It happens a lot.
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Re: Trump calls the Taliban 'good fighters' who are 'really smart' and erroneously says the group has been around for 1,000 years
The Caliphate began after the death of Muhammad in 632 CE

That seems to have eluded most of you and TRump. It's 1389 years. :retards:
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I mean their philosophy and morals are a 1000 years old

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I mean their philosophy and morals are a 1000 years old
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WHich new, moveable feast, philosophy or morals are more apropos?
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I mean their philosophy and morals are a 1000 years old
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WHich new, moveable feast, philosophy or morals are more apropos?
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I personally choose ethics over morals. Morals I generally consider to be opinions based upon a code derived from a specific chosen religion.

As far as philosophy. I think a society based on USA bill of rights is a good start. All people having equal authority in the justice system.

That's the whole problem of trying to "help" people. If the host is not prepared and receptive to the culture then you can not force it upon them. They have to acquire it naturally.

That is want liberals don't have the wisdom to understand, the good liberals. Most liberals are actually tyrants and don't truly want to help anyone. But the ones that wasn't to help only make things worse because their recepiants develop and dependence and squander their given resources and in turn learn nothing about self acquiring of said resources.
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Oh well, he was only off by 993 years, cut him some slack.

chuckle
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He's trying to calm the situation. If you can't see that you don't know what a good leader is.

 Quoting: SagoP


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Re: Trump calls the Taliban 'good fighters' who are 'really smart' and erroneously says the group has been around for 1,000 years
very typically the MSM interprets Trump literally, thus misunderstanding either intentionally or out of stupidity.

In Trump's rhetorics, numbers are not to be taken as acuurate values but rhetorical device 1000 years means long time.

And "Taliban" is a metonym, a part referencing the whole.

So what Trump is saying that the Afghanis have a long history of being brave fighters who always win in the end.

and the invaders/occupiers will lose.

And the current Taliban indeed seems to be smart, they understand that to indulge in an orgy of re venge would be very counter productive. By being very peaceful and rational they will pre-empt the hysterical talking points of the Western media.

The Western media hopes that the Talibani would kill and butcher like mofos, but they have already declared general amnesty to all, and declare they will respect the rights of the women etc ...

points form their first presser


No problem for women to get education all the way to college, and to continue to work. They just need to wear the hijab (like in Qatar or Iran). No need to wear a burqa. The Taliban insist, “all women’s rights will be guaranteed within the limits of Islamic law.”

The Islamic Emirate “does not threaten anyone” and will not treat anyone as enemies. Crucially, revenge – an essential plank of the Pashtunwali code – will be abandoned, and that’s unprecedented. There will be a general amnesty – including people who worked for the former NATO-aligned system. Translators, for instance, won’t be harassed, and don’t need to leave the country.

Security of foreign embassies and international organizations “is a priority.” Taliban special security forces will protect both those leaving Afghanistan and those who remain.

A strong inclusive Islamic government will be formed. “Inclusive” is code for the participation of women and Shi’ites.

Foreign media will continue to work undisturbed. The Taliban government will allow public criticism and debate. But “freedom of speech in Afghanistan must be in line with Islamic values.”

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Will the US plot revenge against the brave freedom fighter patriots of Talibani? that's almost certain after the humiliation.
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I mean their philosophy and morals are a 1000 years old
 Quoting: The Gullible Skeptic


WHich new, moveable feast, philosophy or morals are more apropos?
 Quoting: William Poole


I personally choose ethics over morals. Morals I generally consider to be opinions based upon a code derived from a specific chosen religion.

As far as philosophy. I think a society based on USA bill of rights is a good start. All people having equal authority in the justice system.

That's the whole problem of trying to "help" people. If the host is not prepared and receptive to the culture then you can not force it upon them. They have to acquire it naturally.

That is want liberals don't have the wisdom to understand, the good liberals. Most liberals are actually tyrants and don't truly want to help anyone. But the ones that wasn't to help only make things worse because their recepiants develop and dependence and squander their given resources and in turn learn nothing about self acquiring of said resources.
 Quoting: The Gullible Skeptic


I personally prefer morels, slightly dried and part of a good soup! The BOR is a good start but it seems we have been shafted. But sure the dialogue between morals and ethics can get old (no problem with that) it gets convoluted. This is my fav site [link to fromthetrenchesworldreport.com (secure)] Interesting BOR folks. ANd open to communication. It all falls back onto old arguments but they are intriguing discussions. Hard to take a side until the whole concept is grasped really.
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this was a big fail of the American Deep State, the Military-Industrial Complex and the "Intelligence community", they didn't have a clue what was about to happen.

The neighboring powers of Afghanistan -- Pakistan, Iran and China knew. And Russia, so they didn't get caught their pants down but were prepared for the inevitable.

Trump was justified in his despise and dismissal of the US "intelligence" "community".
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Hmm lets see.

Saying the Taliban has been around longer than they really have vs lighting the middle east up on fire.

I'll take erroneous timeline for 1000 years Alex.
 Quoting: SagoP


Why would he hide the fact that they were created by the CIA, or why would he not know that fact, if he is supposedly waging war on the CIA and deep state?
 Quoting: Terry Funk


Way before the see I a, who ever conquered them? These fighters have been around for a while? Conquering Afghanistan is not so easy. What does it matter the name the company gave them this time?
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As Trump was the man who began the peace negotiations with the Taliban and had their leader Baradar released from prison, he would have been the man to handle the situation, ignoring the seething and shrieking from the Deep State/Intelligence Community and media, not just the Liberal, but the Cuckservative/neocon media ...


He probably would have been able start from the clean table, make deals that would minimise the US losses, but as it stands, this is all just going to be a big geopolitical win for Russia, China and Iran.

the media bashing of poor old Joe is meant to push him to a more confrontational, militarist direction. The Deep State wants to start destabilizing Afghanistan via sponsoring terrorism inside its borders in order to hamper BRI. We'll see how it works.

One can ask was the sponsoring of terrorism ever a bright idea.
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He said last night that he was proud of the “vaccine”. Broke my heart and I walked away.
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I'm sure Trump meant fighters for fundamental Islamic religion. Or haven't people heard of the Crusades, which I believe did start about a thousand years ago? It's crazy how people want to twist everything he says to try to make a case he is wrong. Biden could say eggplants are orange, and the MSM would search ever on-line picture to find one that had a slightly orange tint and they would all conclude he was absolutely correct. If the country and world situation wasn't so dire, I would be enjoying watching the media swallow their tongues due to the disgusting ways Biden has handled this Afghanistan, COVID, the border crisis, giving money away by the trillions...

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Hmm lets see.

Saying the Taliban has been around longer than they really have vs lighting the middle east up on fire.

I'll take erroneous timeline for 1000 years Alex.
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Why would he hide the fact that they were created by the CIA, or why would he not know that fact, if he is supposedly waging war on the CIA and deep state?
 Quoting: Terry Funk


that's not exactly true ... what CIA created was the Mujaheddin jihadists who were created to fight against the Soviet Union allied secular government, in the late 70s.

The mujaheddin included one mr bin Laden and his pals, they were funded and armed by CIA and the Saudi and Pakistani intelligence. And there were other CIA supported warlords too. But Taliban didn't exist by then.

the idea was to destabilize Afhanistan in order to get Soviet Union to help the government it had a defense pact with, so that Soviet Union would get its own Vietnam.

But after the Soviets left the Afghani government still stood like three years, at least they didn't get their "Saigon moment".

But now the USA got its Saigon 2.0 moment. Not to talk about that the terrorism sponsoring created al Qaida and, this might be controversial, led to 911 as a backlash.
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