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How could the "Son of God" POSSIBLY be "misconstrued" to imply equality with the Father God?

 
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How could the "Son of God" POSSIBLY be "misconstrued" to imply equality with the Father God?
This one is especially for you SOTL, but I am interested to hear ALL thought processes of how Jesus claiming to be the Son of God would or could ever imply equality with the Father God to the point that they would call him a blasphemer and attempt to kill him for it, and not anything else.


St. John 10:36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?

St. John 5:18 Therefore the *bleep*s sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.

St. John 10:32-33
Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? The *bleep*s answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.

St. John 19:7 The *bleep*s answered him, We have a law, and by our law he ought to die, because he made himself the Son of God.



How could the *bleep*s conceive that the only begotten Son of God MEANS equality with God? (but you can't)?? So let us hear your reasoning how they could have gotten that idea.
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Don't give me some thoughtless answer either. Think about it and explain it out because if there are holes in your explanation they're going to be pointed out.. so really work your idea into a solid argument how they could reasonably and logically equate "Son of God" to Father God.

Here's a helpful hint, the Holy Ghost and Holy Spirit are not the same thing.
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Que Jeopardy music.
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Can I get some answers??? Anyone?? People who think Jesus is not the Father God??? I will not let this rest..
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*crickets*
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John 1. Accept or not, that is your choice but you better choose wisely.
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Guess who showed me to present this argument in which no one can reasonably refute?

Jesus!

His wisdom.
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In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2The same was in the beginning with God.

3All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
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St. Luke 20:39-40
Then certain of the scribes answering said, Master, thou hast well said. And after that they durst not ask him any question at all.
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Could it be a cultural perspective perhaps? Were fathers seen as equals to their fathers in the culture of the time, thus implying the Son of God is equal to God?

I'm not sure, it's just an idea.
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Could it be a cultural perspective perhaps? Were fathers seen as equals to their fathers in the culture of the time, thus implying the Son of God is equal to God?

I'm not sure, it's just an idea.
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If that were true, then they all would be as great and equal to Abraham:

St. John 8:39 They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham.

St. John 8:53 Art thou greater than our father Abraham, which is dead? and the prophets are dead: whom makest thou thyself?

But you see they considered Abraham greater than themselves.

Nowhere else in the Holy Bible is a son considered equal to their father.

So how did they come up with this idea that the only begotten Son of God is EQUAL to the Father God??
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Psalms 110:1 The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.

St. Mark 12:36-37
For David himself said by the Holy Ghost, The LORD said to my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool. David therefore himself calleth him Lord; and whence is he then his son? And the common people heard him gladly.

Jesus is asking, since the Messiah is the son of David, meaning of his seed and lineage, how can his "son" be greater than himself who, David in the flesh, was before his son the Messiah was born?

St. John 8:58-59
Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I Am. Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.

The father is greater than the son.

Jesus being before Abraham means Abraham is his son and himself his father, and also the father of David.

John the Baptist calls Jesus his Father:

St. John 1:15
John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me.

St. John 1:30
This is he of whom I said, After me cometh a man which is preferred before me: for he was before me.

That which comes before the son is the father.

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I'm hoping and assuming that some of you are only taking time to research and reason and build up your case to argue against Jesus being the Father God and therefore equal to him. I'll make sure you don't forget about this thread.
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For Christ must rule until God defeats all enemies and puts them under his feet. The last enemy to be defeated will be death. For the scripture says, "God put all things under his feet." It is clear, of course, that the words "all things" do not include God himself, who puts all things under Christ. But when all things have been placed under Christ's rule, then he himself, the Son, will place himself under God, who placed all things under him; and God will rule completely over all.
(1 Corinthians 15:25-28)
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For Christ must rule until God defeats all enemies and puts them under his feet. The last enemy to be defeated will be death. For the scripture says, "God put all things under his feet." It is clear, of course, that the words "all things" do not include God himself, who puts all things under Christ. But when all things have been placed under Christ's rule, then he himself, the Son, will place himself under God, who placed all things under him; and God will rule completely over all.
(1 Corinthians 15:25-28)
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To hell your cursed bible. Not exactly an argument for the topic at hand but let's address it, and it does show equality of the Son with the Father.

1 Corinthians 15:24-28
Then cometh the end, when (Jesus) shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when (God) shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. For (Jesus) must reign, till (God) hath put all enemies under (Jesus') feet. The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. For (God) hath put all things under (Jesus') feet. But when (God) saith all things are put under (Jesus) (Psalm 110:1), it is manifest that (God) is excepted, which did put all things under (Jesus). And when all things shall be subdued unto (Jesus), then shall the Son also himself be subject unto (God) that put all things under (Jesus), that God may be all in all.

From the beginning, what is the Kingdom of God?

St. Luke 17:20-21
And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

We could say that the Kingdom of God is the soul in which God the Spirit reigns. When Jesus said the Kingdom of God is at hand, the scripture say that God fully indwells inside Jesus.

What does it refer to that Jesus will deliver up the Kingdom of God to God? Since the house of God is in his true people, Jesus delivers up his people to God. What did Jesus say?

St. John 14:3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

Jesus reigns as King of Kings and Lord of lords.

St. John 19:21 Then said the chief priests of the *bleep*s to Pilate, Write not, The King of the *bleep*s; but that he said, I am King of the *bleep*s.

Who is the King of the *bleep*s but the Lord?

Isaiah 33:22 For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; he will save us.

So now, not only does God respect Jesus his only begotten Son, but has been made EQUAL in power and authority. Not only did God GIVE to him all power, which is very trusting of a free willed being who is, you say, not God, but he therefore also shares with him his glory, making him King, causing all things to be subjected unto him.

If you will notice the first and last verses, together they say that God puts down all rule and authority and power so that he may be all in all. What this is referring is what Jesus said:

St. John 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

What are the works of the Son?

Colossians 1:15-19
Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence. For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;

What the scriptures are saying is that we who pass his final judgment shall be worthy to be gods in the new creation. Just as Jesus created this creation by the fullness of the Spirit in him, so shall we also be like unto him in his new creation with all power of the Spirit in us, whose name is Jesus, the Almighty.

Revelation 3:21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.

1 Timothy 1:17 Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen.

Amen.

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"show us the Father".... how did Yeshua reply?

Book of John describing the Creator....

Yeshua accepting worship in the Gospels but an angel in Revelations stops John from doing it and tells him to worship God alone.

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For Christ must rule until God defeats all enemies and puts them under his feet. The last enemy to be defeated will be death. For the scripture says, "God put all things under his feet." It is clear, of course, that the words "all things" do not include God himself, who puts all things under Christ. But when all things have been placed under Christ's rule, then he himself, the Son, will place himself under God, who placed all things under him; and God will rule completely over all.
(1 Corinthians 15:25-28)
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To hell your cursed bible. Not exactly an argument for the topic at hand but let's address it, and it does show equality of the Son with the Father.

1 Corinthians 15:24-28
Then cometh the end, when (Jesus) shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when (God) shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. For (Jesus) must reign, till (God) hath put all enemies under (Jesus') feet. The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. For (God) hath put all things under (Jesus') feet. But when (God) saith all things are put under (Jesus) (Psalm 110:1), it is manifest that (God) is excepted, which did put all things under (Jesus). And when all things shall be subdued unto (Jesus), then shall the Son also himself be subject unto (God) that put all things under (Jesus), that God may be all in all.

From the beginning, what is the Kingdom of God?

St. Luke 17:20-21
And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

We could say that the Kingdom of God is the soul in which God the Spirit reigns. When Jesus said the Kingdom of God is at hand, the scripture say that God fully indwells inside Jesus.

What does it refer to that Jesus will deliver up the Kingdom of God to God? Since the house of God is in his true people, Jesus delivers up his people to God. What did Jesus say?

St. John 14:3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

Jesus reigns as King of Kings and Lord of lords.

St. John 19:21 Then said the chief priests of the *bleep*s to Pilate, Write not, The King of the *bleep*s; but that he said, I am King of the *bleep*s.

Who is the King of the *bleep*s but the Lord?

Isaiah 33:22 For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; he will save us.

So now, not only does God respect Jesus his only begotten Son, but has been made EQUAL in power and authority. Not only did God GIVE to him all power, which is very trusting of a free willed being who is, you say, not God, but he therefore also shares with him his glory, making him King, causing all things to be subjected unto him.

If you will notice the first and last verses, together they say that God puts down all rule and authority and power so that he may be all in all. What this is referring is what Jesus said:

St. John 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

What are the works of the Son?

Colossians 1:15-19
Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence. For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;

What the scriptures are saying is that we who pass his final judgment shall be worthy to be gods in the new creation. Just as Jesus created this creation by the fullness of the Spirit in him, so shall we also be like unto him in his new creation with all power of the Spirit in us, whose name is Jesus, the Almighty.

Revelation 3:21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.

1 Timothy 1:17 Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen.

Amen.
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Not exactly an argument for the topic at hand = Goodbye, next!

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"show us the Father".... how did Yeshua reply?

Book of John describing the Creator....

Yeshua accepting worship in the Gospels but an angel in Revelations stops John from doing it and tells him to worship God alone.
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Yes, Jesus revealed to you that he is the Father, but to whom he has not revealed it they are under the power of Satan and blind.

Ephesians 1:18 The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints,

Ezekiel 12:2 Son of man, thou dwellest in the midst of a rebellious house, which have eyes to see, and see not; they have ears to hear, and hear not: for they are a rebellious house.

Isaiah 30:9-11
That this is a rebellious people, lying children, children that will not hear the law of the LORD: Which say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, Prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us smooth things, prophesy deceits: Get you out of the way, turn aside out of the path, cause the Holy One of Israel to cease from before us.

Proverbs 20:12 The hearing ear, and the seeing eye, the LORD hath made even both of them.

St. Luke 11:34
The light of the body is the eye: therefore when thine eye is single, thy whole body also is full of light; but when thine eye is evil, thy body also is full of darkness.

Jesus is the Potter, he can open or close the eyes and ears.

THE EYES, when you rearrange the letters, THEY SEE.
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Not exactly an argument for the topic at hand but let's address it, and it does show equality of the Son with the Father.

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Not exactly an argument for the topic at hand = Goodbye, next!
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Finish the sentence. The scriptures you referred to help my case. If God the Father, which is an invisible Spirit, did not make Jesus equal to himself, he would not have commanded and brought all things under his subjection, but rather his own.

The problem is people think the Father God is a humanoid angelic being when the scriptures say he is an invisible and an Holy Spirit. The second problem is people think the Holy Spirit and Holy Ghost are the same thing.
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Victor, do you see it strange that the Word of God says that he is not a respecter of persons, yet the scriptures say that all things were made by God for Jesus? If Jesus is not God then the scriptures are false and God is a respecter of persons, but since Jesus is God as a creation, God is not a respecter of persons and the scriptures are not false.

St. John 10:35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;

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God is a Spirit.

St. John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

What came forth from Spirit?

St. John 8:42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.

St. John 16:30 Now are we sure that thou knowest all things, and needest not that any man should ask thee: by this we believe that thou camest forth from God.

Jesus Christ was the very first thing that came into creation, the origin of time and space and matter, and all other things came into creation as he spoke them into being and formed them with his hands.

Colossians 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:


Imagine nothingness, and then, there was Jesus. And God through his body, his own body, spoke all other things into existence.
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Colossians 2:9

For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form,



Colossians 1:19

For it was the Father’s good pleasure for all the fullness to dwell in Him,

All That Is.

Twinning of heart and mind.
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This one is especially for you SOTL, but I am interested to hear ALL thought processes of how Jesus claiming to be the Son of God would or could ever imply equality with the Father God to the point that they would call him a blasphemer and attempt to kill him for it, and not anything else.


St. John 10:36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?

St. John 5:18 Therefore the *bleep*s sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.

St. John 10:32-33
Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? The *bleep*s answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.

St. John 19:7 The *bleep*s answered him, We have a law, and by our law he ought to die, because he made himself the Son of God.



How could the *bleep*s conceive that the only begotten Son of God MEANS equality with God? (but you can't)?? So let us hear your reasoning how they could have gotten that idea.
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He should have only called himself a Son of Man, and that would been acceptable in their monotheism.


Numbers 23:19

19 God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?
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Apollo was a son of Zeus but was still a God to those believers, as were the rest of the descendants of Zeus, even those born of a human mother. They were all gods.
So by that reasoning the J—s thought Jesus saying he was a son of God was the same as saying he was a God.
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Apollo was a son of Zeus but was still a God to those believers, as were the rest of the descendants of Zeus, even those born of a human mother. They were all gods.
So by that reasoning the J—s thought Jesus saying he was a son of God was the same as saying he was a God.
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Well the scriptures call us all gods, so that theory doesn't hold up at all.

Psalms 82:6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.

The difference is being the only begotten Son of God, versus just sons of God. And why is that so? Another conundrum for the unlearned to attempt to explain.

Job 38:6-7
Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof; When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
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This one is especially for you SOTL, but I am interested to hear ALL thought processes of how Jesus claiming to be the Son of God would or could ever imply equality with the Father God to the point that they would call him a blasphemer and attempt to kill him for it, and not anything else.


St. John 10:36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?

St. John 5:18 Therefore the *bleep*s sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.

St. John 10:32-33
Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? The *bleep*s answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.

St. John 19:7 The *bleep*s answered him, We have a law, and by our law he ought to die, because he made himself the Son of God.



How could the *bleep*s conceive that the only begotten Son of God MEANS equality with God? (but you can't)?? So let us hear your reasoning how they could have gotten that idea.
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He should have only called himself a Son of Man, and that would been acceptable in their monotheism.


Numbers 23:19

19 God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?
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God referred to the Messiah as the Son of Man to come to Daniel.

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19 God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?
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Men lie.
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This one is especially for you SOTL, but I am interested to hear ALL thought processes of how Jesus claiming to be the Son of God would or could ever imply equality with the Father God to the point that they would call him a blasphemer and attempt to kill him for it, and not anything else.


St. John 10:36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?

St. John 5:18 Therefore the *bleep*s sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.

St. John 10:32-33
Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? The *bleep*s answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.

St. John 19:7 The *bleep*s answered him, We have a law, and by our law he ought to die, because he made himself the Son of God.



How could the *bleep*s conceive that the only begotten Son of God MEANS equality with God? (but you can't)?? So let us hear your reasoning how they could have gotten that idea.
 Quoting: Jesus Christ is God Almighty


He should have only called himself a Son of Man, and that would been acceptable in their monotheism.


Numbers 23:19

19 God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?
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God referred to the Messiah as the Son of Man to come to Ezekiel.
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Yes, because the Messiah was not ever thought of as a God or a son of God, but as an earthly, literal King, a descendent of King David who would deliver Israel and restore it to its former glory on earth.
(They are still waiting. That prophecy needs to be admitted a failure.)
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My biggest gripe with Christianity in its current form is that it places Jesus as an entity distinct and unobtainable to you. Regardless of his origin or relation to divinity, no teaching is worth having if it says you will never be able to obtain the highest realms.
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My biggest gripe with Christianity in its current form is that it places Jesus as an entity distinct and unobtainable to you. Regardless of his origin or relation to divinity, no teaching is worth having if it says you will never be able to obtain the highest realms.
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My biggest gripe with Christianity in its current form is that it places Jesus as an entity distinct and unobtainable to you.
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You are not God.
Regardless of his origin or relation to divinity, no teaching is worth having if it says you will never be able to obtain the highest realms.
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You wish to be God?

This is your biggest complaint currently?





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