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The Republican party - always the party of the rich?

 
Adieuvat
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The Republican party - always the party of the rich?
In a recent article (or pâper how he likes to call it) about Alex Jones and a tax especially tailored for the wealthy in the US (the capital gains tax), Miles Mathis (of Pi=4 fame) claims the Republican party was always the party of the rich.

He says:

"Historically, being conservative meant you were on the side of the rich, and only recently (past 40 years) has that flipped (...) If you are for old fashioned values of any sort, you are supposed to define yourself as conservative, even if you hate the rich (...) They don't understand how strange it is to have the American middle class and working class supporting the
Republican Party—always and still the party of the rich."

I beg to differ.

It is a known, historical fact that, at some point, Republicans and Democrats (though some weird sleight-of-hand I guess) switched their stances, but in the early days, before this switch, it was the Democrats who were the party of slavery, it was the Democrats who supported slavery... and obviously, this means they were the party of the rich as who else but the rich was keeping slaves?

So, Mathis appears to want to ignore this fact, but you can hardly define the Republicans as the "party of the rich" at the times of slavery.

Any thoughts?


[link to mileswmathis.com]
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Re: The Republican party - always the party of the rich?
In a recent article (or pâper how he likes to call it) about Alex Jones and a tax especially tailored for the wealthy in the US (the capital gains tax), Miles Mathis (of Pi=4 fame) claims the Republican party was always the party of the rich.

He says:

"Historically, being conservative meant you were on the side of the rich, and only recently (past 40 years) has that flipped (...) If you are for old fashioned values of any sort, you are supposed to define yourself as conservative, even if you hate the rich (...) They don't understand how strange it is to have the American middle class and working class supporting the
Republican Party—always and still the party of the rich."

I beg to differ.

It is a known, historical fact that, at some point, Republicans and Democrats (though some weird sleight-of-hand I guess) switched their stances, but in the early days, before this switch, it was the Democrats who were the party of slavery, it was the Democrats who supported slavery... and obviously, this means they were the party of the rich as who else but the rich was keeping slaves?

So, Mathis appears to want to ignore this fact, but you can hardly define the Republicans as the "party of the rich" at the times of slavery.

Any thoughts?


[link to mileswmathis.com]
 Quoting: Adieuvat


The democrats are still the party of slave owners what the fuck are you talking about?
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Re: The Republican party - always the party of the rich?
I don't think you have really read my post.
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Re: The Republican party - always the party of the rich?
A person must be a multimillionaire to even run for office.

D or R it's the same same

Our founding fathers were mostly wealthy landowners and businessmen

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Look around. Which party are the rich people aligned with? It ain't Republicans. I'm not rich and I hate both parties. Granted, I hate the Democrats a little bit more.
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Re: The Republican party - always the party of the rich?
young people tend to lean liberal. They have nothing and the thought of free shit from the govt is appealing. Older people tend to be conservative. They worked hard and saved and don't want their wealth confiscated and given to others..
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young people tend to lean liberal. They have nothing and the thought of free shit from the govt is appealing. Older people tend to be conservative. They worked hard and saved and don't want their wealth confiscated and given to others..
 Quoting: diverdan01


Until they cash out, retire, and become dependent on da gub'mint. Again. If they never got any real wealth in their working life, it's all out the window and they magically become Liberal again.

My own dad is a prime example. He was a staunch anti-Communist, proud, American patriot. Until he retired. Now he's a rabid Lib. If he had any hair left, it would probably be pink or blue.

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Re: The Republican party - always the party of the rich?
young people tend to lean liberal. They have nothing and the thought of free shit from the govt is appealing. Older people tend to be conservative. They worked hard and saved and don't want their wealth confiscated and given to others..
 Quoting: diverdan01


Until they cash out, retire, and become dependent on da gub'mint. Again. If they never got any real wealth in their working life, it's all out the window and they magically become Liberal again.

My own dad is a prime example. He was a staunch anti-Communist, proud, American patriot. Until he retired. Now he's a rabid Lib. If he had any hair left, it would probably be pink or blue.
 Quoting: Pres. Elect Festus Hoggbottom


I will never be a liberal but when I retire I will want every benefit that I paid into and paid for over the past 40 years.
SSI is a joke..if you put in 5K a year for 40 yrs into a good mutual fund you would have at least 2 million in the bank and 100K income for life without touching that principal. Instead of 20K an year and zero in the bank when you die
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Democrats still own slaves but instead of black people today it's everybody.
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Re: The Republican party - always the party of the rich?
In a recent article (or pâper how he likes to call it) about Alex Jones and a tax especially tailored for the wealthy in the US (the capital gains tax), Miles Mathis (of Pi=4 fame) claims the Republican party was always the party of the rich.

He says:

"Historically, being conservative meant you were on the side of the rich, and only recently (past 40 years) has that flipped (...) If you are for old fashioned values of any sort, you are supposed to define yourself as conservative, even if you hate the rich (...) They don't understand how strange it is to have the American middle class and working class supporting the
Republican Party—always and still the party of the rich."

I beg to differ.

It is a known, historical fact that, at some point, Republicans and Democrats (though some weird sleight-of-hand I guess) switched their stances, but in the early days, before this switch, it was the Democrats who were the party of slavery, it was the Democrats who supported slavery... and obviously, this means they were the party of the rich as who else but the rich was keeping slaves?

So, Mathis appears to want to ignore this fact, but you can hardly define the Republicans as the "party of the rich" at the times of slavery.

Any thoughts?


[link to mileswmathis.com]
 Quoting: Adieuvat



I don't know -
but they get cheated out of elections and act like its nothing.
Have they always done that?
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Re: The Republican party - always the party of the rich?
In a recent article (or pâper how he likes to call it) about Alex Jones and a tax especially tailored for the wealthy in the US (the capital gains tax), Miles Mathis (of Pi=4 fame) claims the Republican party was always the party of the rich.

He says:

"Historically, being conservative meant you were on the side of the rich, and only recently (past 40 years) has that flipped (...) If you are for old fashioned values of any sort, you are supposed to define yourself as conservative, even if you hate the rich (...) They don't understand how strange it is to have the American middle class and working class supporting the
Republican Party—always and still the party of the rich."

I beg to differ.

It is a known, historical fact that, at some point, Republicans and Democrats (though some weird sleight-of-hand I guess) switched their stances, but in the early days, before this switch, it was the Democrats who were the party of slavery, it was the Democrats who supported slavery... and obviously, this means they were the party of the rich as who else but the rich was keeping slaves?

So, Mathis appears to want to ignore this fact, but you can hardly define the Republicans as the "party of the rich" at the times of slavery.

Any thoughts?


[link to mileswmathis.com]
 Quoting: Adieuvat



I don't know -
but they get cheated out of elections and act like its nothing.
Have they always done that?
 Quoting: Giordano Bruno


That's the real question. Their brethren are being beaten in D.C. jail and nothing is done... I thought "no man left behind".

The democrats won't even vote out of line.





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