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Virgin Mary´s message to the world vision on Dec 2 2004...

 
Sandalaphon
12/05/2004 02:39 AM
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Prophecy & Politics Update

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The Divine Mother, best known to many as Mary the mother of Jesus, is revealing to people of all backgrounds, beliefs, and faiths around the world crucial information about events unfolding on the world stage. Recent revelations include the following:

In a vision on December 2, 2004, Mary made the stunning revelation that over 250,000 people, mostly civilians, have been killed in Iraq since the war began. In this vision, she showed horrific scenes of human slaughter–blood and bodies and the stench of death–on a massive scale. In an earlier message in April, 2004, she previously disclosed that 50,000 people had been killed up to that point in the war, almost 1000 per week since the war officially began. Her most recent disclosure reveals that now thousands are being killed weekly. She has stated many times that the American people are being lied to about the war, as well as about many other things.

In a related message, Mary noted that the use of the term "insurgents" is intended to desensitize U.S. forces so that they will not experience the full horror of what they are doing in their wholesale slaughter of civilians. She clarified that Iraqis fighting U.S. troops are not insurgents, but people defending their homes and families–not unlike what many Americans would do if our country were invaded. She further noted that there are many Iraqis who simple want peace, but many of them are also being slaughtered without cause.

In the December 2 vision, Mary indicated that the people in Iraq and the Arab world are enraged at the U.S. for the massive and unjustified death and destruction in Iraq. She foretold: "Do not think for one minute that there will not be repercussions in your country. Your country will be hit!" She also stated, as she has many times before, that the U.S. economy will experience a serious blow, which will be ostensibly related to events in the Mideast. But, as she has also disclosed, the U.S. economy is being manipulated, and the blow to the economy will be part of a larger plan to bring the American people to their knees.

As the whole world knows, the U.S. had no justification to invade Iraq, nor does it have justification–moral or military–for the massive slaughter of the civilian population. Many people around the world find U.S. actions in Iraq to be simply incomprehensible. In the December 2 vision, Mary put into context the real meaning of the Iraq war and other events that will unfold in the Mideast when she stated: "Don´t think that George Bush is the anti-Christ. He works with the anti-Christ, but he is not the anti-Christ."

As we reported before, Mary has revealed that the U.S. attack on Iran has been in the making for more than two years, U.S. troops are already inside of Iran, and the American public is now being prepared for this next U.S. incursion which, according to Mary, will not be the last.

In a vision on November 30, 2004, Mary stated: "It is nothing short of a miracle that an event (a terrorist attack) has not taken place in your country. Remember, this is not only because of the forces of light. It is also a strategic move by the forces of darkness." She then explained that one of the key factors at play right now is the Internet. Prophetic information about specific events on the world stage is coming to many people from higher sources, and it is being disseminated through the Internet. The dark forces, according to Mary, want to discredit these sources, so they alter their plans once they have been uncovered. This is what happened last year with the planned attack on Chicago, which Mary and others revealed at that time. Mary commented about the role of the Internet in the November 30 message: "The dark forces are trying to beat the information highway. The dark forces have to invalidate these sources of information as part of their larger strategy." Mary is telling us that the dissemination of the truth is making a difference. So feel free to post this update on web sites and pass it on to friends.

Mary is not pro or anti-American. She is revealing a story that is part of a fierce battle currently being waged for our world between light and dark forces and beings on many levels. She states that there are leaders in the U.S., the Mideast, and elsewhere who are dark beings working to destroy the light on our planet, just as there are light beings in the U.S., the Mideast, and elsewhere who are struggling to hold the light on our planet. She has revealed the details of this story in a remarkable series of apparitions to a courageous woman to whom we owe a great debt of gratitude. Mary´s messages conveyed in these apparitions can be found at www.OurLadyofLightPublications.com.

It is urgent, Mary says, that we turn to prayer, meditation, and spiritual practices in order to create the light that is desperately needed in order to alter or lessen the events that have already been set in motion. Underscoring the dire nature of the present world situation, she observes, "Prayer and meditation are now more important than bread and water." She asks when we pray that we request that our prayers be connected with the prayers of others of the light who are praying at the same time in order to create webs of light around our planet and to connect the beings on all levels who are fighting in defense of light and love.

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nolo
12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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***The Divine Mother, best known to many as Mary the mother of Jesus***

If you mean, the mother of the Divine, then that´s Mary.

But if you have some sort of female divinity, then that´s not the mother of Jesus.
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12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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this sounds far more credible than what Caligula of Jesusland is saying.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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mary also said that the threadmaker should stay of the booze for a couple of weeks .
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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Virgin Mary is a myth, just Like Virgin Isis and her savior son and the dozen other virgin mothers and savior suns from other lands

dumbass
Sandalaphon
12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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The message is plain and simple debunkers, no exact dates no timelines just the ramifications on the choices we make and whether we act on it or not.

Amen
nolo
12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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***She has revealed the details of this story***

So it´s not so ´plain and simple´ then.

You still haven´t made it clear, just WHO this ´divine´ messenger is.

The message is evaluated by who the messenger is...
The inclusion of newage ´beings of light´ gives me a pretty good idea where this is coming from...
...and your attitude just ices it.
nolo
12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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***"Prayer and meditation are now more important than bread and water." She asks when we pray that we request that our prayers be connected with the prayers of others of the light who are praying at the same time in order to create webs of light around our planet and to connect the beings on all levels who are fighting in defense of light and love.***

Jesus said ´when we pray´...NOT ´when we meditate.
Prayer is communicating to God, not some ´visualization´ of some starwarz special effect.
Planetary webs and levelized beings...newageweenie speak...

First the gnostics steal the ´Jesus´ idea...now their appropriating Mary...
...geeze, ANYTHING to try and legitimize a half-baked cosmology...
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12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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You still haven´t made it clear, just WHO this ´divine´ messenger is.

"The Divine Mother, best known to many as Mary the mother of Jesus"

Do you need a image of her she is the same person who is appearing globally to many people to speak words of truth not lies. I do know u have to test all things but is it hard to detest the truth in message Mary has given above.

This is the Mary i am talking about the true messanger/mediatrix from the Most High God.


[link to www.tldm.org]


Use discernment and if u have the Holy Spirit
u will know from whom the source of the message comes from.

Luv and peace rose
nolo
12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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***In the Heaven´s Home Protection Packet there are instructions, four crucifixes, and a tube of special cement for wooden or metal crucifixes. Put a light coat of cement on the back of the crucifix and then press it to the outside of the door. Item # P15 Suggested donation $5.00 each***



My discernment says that I´m reminded of Jesus saying that His strength was sufficient for me...

Sorry, too many liberties you take with scripture...and too much pandering to superstitious practices...

Too much mixing of truth with imaginings.
I discern too much of the author´s own scenerio...much like putting words in a messenger´s mouth.

Bottom line...it deviates from scripture too much.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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woohoo
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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TOTAL FUCKING BULLSHIT.

OP, get back on your thorazine drip.
Sandalaphon
12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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U really want some truth Nolo read what this women has to say and let go of you´re sriptures for a bit and get out of DUMB CHURH.

Do u know what DUMB CHURCH is?

Let this women awake u

sherryshriner.com

luv and peace rose
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12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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BULLSHIT, sandalwoowoo.... fucking treasonous blasphemer.

Go kill yourself.
nolo
12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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***true messanger/mediatrix***

Messenger = angel

Mary = human

Mary is not an angelic being.


And who invented this ´mediatrix´?

1Tm:2:5: For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
Heb:8:6: But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.
Heb:9:15: And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.
Heb:12:24: And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.



I call ´shenanigans´...

[You’ll most commonly encounter this word in the plural. It seems to have originated in California at about the time of the Gold Rush, though it was first recorded in print only in 1855. In the years since, it has been spelt in about a dozen different ways, though recent dictionaries have settled on the version above. Where it comes from is still a matter of substantial dispute; the first five dictionaries I consulted gave four different origins (Oxford Dictionaries—as so often—opting for the ultra-cautious “origin unknown”). The word looks Irish, and there was no shortage of Irishmen in the California diggings, so it’s plausible to suggest the Irish word sionnachuighm as the source, meaning ‘I play tricks’, which is pronounced roughly as ‘shinnuckeem’. Others argue it comes from an East Anglian dialect word nannicking for playing the fool. Yet others guess at a link with the Spanish word chanada for a trick or deceit, which is another half-way plausible source, considering California’s history. Yet another theory was put forward in 1948 in American Speech for an origin in German schinnagel for a nail that holds the rim to the wheel, which produced the German slang terms schinageln, to work, and Schenigelei, a trick. As the man behind the market stall said, you pays your money and you takes your choice ...]



Oh, ´her´ story is mostly straight enough now...but when you get in a habit of listening to this particular ´messenger´, and it comes to a crunch...and suddenly ´its´ advice doesn´t harmonize with scripture...unquestioning habit will sucker you into avenues ordinarily you´d avoid....
Sandalphon
12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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Go kill myself.

i enjoy life to much and i enjoy being ridiculed by people like u who can´t handle having their boxes rattled because they sense the truth in what i just posted.

i hope you´re eyes wide shut can agian be opened.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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America will pay. You all voted for the vilone. God will protect the righteous from the karmic bitchslap.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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You dont rattle my box, sandalwoowoo.... you are a misguided cretin possessed by an unclean spirit.. the spirit of lies...
You are an idolater.
You worship the great harlot.

You OPEN your eyes.

Bitch.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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***U really want some truth Nolo read what this women has to say and let go of you´re sriptures for a bit and get out of DUMB CHURH.***


Thank you, you´ve saved me a lot of time ferreting out your bottom line...
I´m reminded of Jim Jones throwing the Bible down on the ground and saying "Look at me, not at that damn book."

Really want some truth? Oh, that makes sense -- throw out 2000+ years of scripture, over the words of someone who hasn´t been around for even one century...

***Do u know what DUMB CHURCH is?***

I think you´ve illustrated that pretty well.


***Let this women awake u***

Now don´t that sound like some snake chakra ´awakening´ newageweenie talk?

No thanks, I´ll take a message of repentance over a message of ´awakening´ anyday.
Sandalaphon
12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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Whatever

the message is clear woo woos or not.
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nolo 12/5/2004 3:30 am writes:

Jesus said ´when we pray´...NOT ´when we meditate.
Prayer is communicating to God, not some ´visualization´ of some starwarz special effect.

*********

Prayer is only half of communicating with God.

Prayer is talking to or telling God/ a higher power what you want.
Meditation is comtemplating, waiting, clearing of the mind for God´s answer. It is a frequently used Bibical term, especially in the Psalms.

Samuel was told by Eli to answer, "Speak, Lord, for thy servant heareth." You can´t hear if you are doing all the talking.

Forget the starwarz special effects.


Peace, light, and love. luv
nolo
12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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No, the ´message´ is not clear...at least in a Biblical sense.

The central point of any ´message´ that we are to pay heed to, is the glorification of God.

This stirs up some half-baked guilt over killing, and tries to place pacifism over any other Gospel...
It tries to relate that to the Gospel, and with some razzle-dazzle and a whole lot of inflating, loosely ties Christianity into her ´message´.

You seem to think because you have 9/10ths truth, that the other 1/10 won´t be poisonous.

If the whole message is not harmonious with scripture, then it´s to be avoided.
The warning is clear, if even an angel were to bring you ´another´ gospel, don´t pay heed to it.
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Nolo, you took the words right out of my mouth, thanks for posting.
nolo
12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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***Meditation is comtemplating, waiting, clearing of the mind for God´s answer. It is a frequently used Bibical term, especially in the Psalms***

I agree with that...but it´s often interwoven with prayer....for example, Jesus praying in the garden...

My point is the ´visualization´ of some bogus ´web of light´, which was never part of any prayer or meditation in the scriptures, and was the focus of the meditation -- NOT God.

And why do we have the scriptures? For just such a case as this, so you can tell what belongs of God and what is just an invention of Man...


If you want to do all this, and believe all this, well and good, it´s all up to you.
But please don´t try and graft it onto Christianity -- it just doesn´t fit.

You asked me to discern it...and I have.
nolo
12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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So I have my doubts that the ´message´ actually originates with Mary the mother of Jesus.

I haven´t had time to research the cosmology of the owners of the websites you´re taking this from...

But as for the ´messenger´, OP, on this board...


"Sandalphon appears as a tall angel dressed in black. His robe is made of pure energy and, if gazed at, it becomes evident that it is constantly emitting dark sparks of energy. He is the twin brother of Metatron and the master of song. He is instrumental in bringing about the differentiation of sex in the embryo--a good thing to bring to the attention of expectant mothers.
His primary function is to act as a guide. If you need advice regarding communication with entities from elemental or planetary spheres, Sandalphon can help steer you in the right direction."


AHA! I´ll bet he´ll steer you.

Call upon Sandalphon for advice if you are confused about the direction your spiritual path is taking you.
yggdrasil
12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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When did Mary get so political? That in and of itself is a red flag for me.

And this line..."Mary indicated that the people in Iraq and the Arab world are enraged at the U.S. for the massive and unjustified death and destruction in Iraq."

Like anyone needs to be psychic or the mother of god to know this. Common sense!

Sorry but methinks the channeler´s voice is too loud here.
nolomolistari
12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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yggdrasil--

***channeler***

I think you´ve hit the nail on the head with just that one word.
NWO Goon
12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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It is good to see that people are not as dumb as the OP had hoped. God is Divine NOT Mary. This thread is a lie using the name of Mary to further this NEW AGE deception. Look at how it promotes a ONE WORLD RELIGION. Places all religions and faith in the same boat. I bind this lying spirit in the name of Jesus! Go back to the pit you came from. Your truths mixed with lies, might as well be ALL lies. You have received nothing from Mary but much from Satan. Go Back from where you came and you know where that is; where all the other demons are awaiting judgement!
nolomolistari
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***people are not as dumb***

It´s not that people are dumb, as they aren´t used to thinking critically.



[Main Entry: crit·i·cal
1 a : of, relating to, or being a turning point or specially important juncture : as (1) : relating to or being the stage of a disease at which an abrupt change for better or worse may be expected; also : being or relating to an illness or condition involving danger of death
(2) : relating to or being a state in which or a measurement or point at which some quality, property, or phenomenon suffers a definite change
b : CRUCIAL, DECISIVE
c : INDISPENSABLE, VITAL
d : being in or approaching a state of crisis

2 a : inclined to criticize severely and unfavorably (This is the ONLY sense in which I DO NOT mean with this word)
b : consisting of or involving criticism ; also : of or relating to the judgment of critics
c : exercising or involving careful judgment or judicious evaluation
d : including variant readings and scholarly emendations

3 : characterized by risk or uncertainty
4 a : of sufficient size to sustain a chain reaction -- used of a mass of fissionable material b : sustaining a chain reaction -- used of a nuclear reactor]


Like I alluded to previously, just enough buzz words, and you´ll be tempted to think that it´s legitimate.
Probably the OP does think this is a message from God.
And it might hold some elements of truth, even though those elements may be arranged peculiarly.

But the real danger is a reliance on these continuing ´messages´ for your spiritual diet...
At some point, because of their origin, and lack of scriptural reliability, they will inject serious erosion of Biblical perspective -- usually when you´re in an emergency situation, and no time to properly reflect on what the ´message´ really entails or implies.

At some point, it will lead you away from God...

It´s not that the OP is intentionally leading you away (at least, I certainly hope not), but they could easily have fallen for the trap, and like a good email carrying a virus, are just passing along the error.
Get it right Nolo
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Sandalphon get it right Nolo

Sandalphon is said to be the "brother" of Metatron and was described by the poet Longfellow as the angel of glory and the angel of prayer. In Greek, Sandalphon means "brother," and it is in this role that he is probably best known, for he is the spiritual sibling and close companion of Metatron. This closeness can be assocaited with the simiilarity of the two angels; just as Metatron is supposed to be the prophet Enoch, Sandalphon is declared in legend to be the prophet Elijah. After being transported to heaven in a fiery chariout, the mighty prophet was turned into an angel in order to continue his service to the Lord. Sandalphon was apparently seen by Moses during his visit to the third heaven. Moses described Sandalphon as the tall angel, in reference to his incredible height. The angel is one of the tallest beings in all of heaven, his size challenged only by Metatron and Anafiel. It is said that Sandalphon is so tall that it would take a journey of five hundred years just to reach from his toes to the top of his head. As the angel of prayer he helps carry the prayers of the faithful into heaven, making of them a beautiful and delicate garland to decorate the head of the Lord.
doerayme
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prayer is talking to God.

meditation is listning.

you bible thumbers have been lied to to keep you away from your own personal empowerment.





GLP