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Canadian mom (OP) User ID: 79296698 ![]() 09/05/2021 11:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I’m in Ontario and starting in a few weeks I will no longer be legally allowed in many in door setting - dining in, event centre, sports events, casinos and a number of other similar venues. We’re getting vax passports and I’m unvaxxed so I’m now a lesser class of person. This is a really inconceivable thing to wrap my head around. I am a 80s kid from Canada and have been fed crap my entire life about how amazing, open minded and diverse our country is. Our differences are supposed to be our strength. Quoting: Canadian mom This is a lot to process to be honest. And I don’t feel like most of my peers are really acknowledging that this is a thing bc I feel like the average person should have an issue with it and they don’t. What a time to be alive OP grab a fishing pole or a tent and hiking shoes, whatever blows your skirt up. Get out into God's creation, enjoy the wonders and sounds of nature. It will take your mind off the trivial games they are trying to play. In the end we will win, God has anointed us for this time. Stand strong. Much love thank you |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80570019 ![]() 09/05/2021 11:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18466037 and drones. and the public address capable street lights, and 'towers'. And the digital governance over your accounts, licensing, etc. -all managed , throttled, or cut remotely. heat. water. internet. building access. Oz. the prison without bars. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80712948 09/05/2021 11:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I’m in Ontario and starting in a few weeks I will no longer be legally allowed in many in door setting - dining in, event centre, sports events, casinos and a number of other similar venues. We’re getting vax passports and I’m unvaxxed so I’m now a lesser class of person. This is a really inconceivable thing to wrap my head around. I am a 80s kid from Canada and have been fed crap my entire life about how amazing, open minded and diverse our country is. Our differences are supposed to be our strength. Quoting: Canadian mom This is a lot to process to be honest. And I don’t feel like most of my peers are really acknowledging that this is a thing bc I feel like the average person should have an issue with it and they don’t. What a time to be alive I'm in Ontario as well. I find it baffling that so many go along with it. I intend to test every business on it. I'll support the ones that don't endorse discrimination. The others can try to stay afloat with half of their normal customer base. Even if you were silly enough to get vaccinated -- do you really want the government tracking your every move? Do you want to be forced to have a tracking app on your phone? To carry your phone everywhere you go? To have to pull it out and scan something at every business? Sounds fucking miserable. The Ontario Businesses Against Health Pass Fakebook group is already over 100K members. Yep it is miserable. Your smart phone becomes your government minder and is your slave papers. It's like something right out of Communist East Germany or Nazi Germany or Communist China with their social credit score. It is the same thing only Papers please has turned into digital instead. Who wants everything they do become like going through airport security. Do you want the government to know everywhere you've been and have contact tracers harassing you and wanting you to needlessly quarantine for two weeks at home for 50th time because sickly old Sally got the sniffles again and went to the same restaurant as you. |
Canadian mom (OP) User ID: 79296698 ![]() 09/05/2021 11:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In northeast BC here. Someone started a FB group for businesses that don’t discriminate. The began handing out green heart stickers to anyone who wants them to stick in their business or vehicle windows to show that their establishment is open to anyone. I think it is a great initiative. I’m not sure if it was adopted from another town or city, but hopefully it spreads far and wide through Canada. I currently maintain my employment, but I wonder if it isn’t a matter of time before the expectation is put forward. My husband and I have four children but I’ve told him I will not acquiesce. He is in sales and is now being told that the various companies he sells to are all going to demand proof of vax or a negative Covid test within 72 hours of coming on to site. At that rate he would have to test every day. He doesn’t want to lose his job but when you rely on Commission, making waves over this would have you laughed out of the industry. He is actually considering getting vaxxed and I told him we just need to sell the house and figure something out. I know we aren’t alone on this but it is hard to not feel completely isolated. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80829400 We have four kids too, I feel so vulnerable sometimes. I want to take them hide in the woods til the storm passes. But of coarse that’s not how life works. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79952624 ![]() 09/05/2021 11:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But I am in IT in the biggest bank of Canada and working from home so it would probably take them some time to fire me. Royal conservatory of music announced last week that they forbid unvaxxed to go in their buildings meaning that if you want your kid to continue learning music there, you have to hire some vaxxed person for dropping them off/picking them up. I bet they are going to ban unvaxxed from attending dentists and other medical doctors in a couple of months. And for sure they will try to mandate this mRNA poison on all schoolchildren soon where as other countries stop vaccinating kids. Canada is just that retarded. When these restrictions won’t work (and won’t help with their false positive cases), they would probably try to prohibit uvaxxed from getting groceries from the stores leaving with only possibility of online shopping/delivery. So not really critical. When all their hysteria peaks in January/February (on peak of flue season), they may try to ban unvaxxed from their condo buildings and public transportation. |
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Naunet User ID: 75919805 ![]() 09/05/2021 11:26 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Corporate wanted to shed people for a long time and needed a good reason to. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80800491 They will use by-law officers going around to fine people with tickets like they did early on with covid. here's a thought when these 'bylaw' officers come around they should be surrounded and stripped of their uniforms,clothes,gear, and set naked on their way unharmed. this has been done successfully in britain. by-law officers in many cities are armed the same as cops By-law officers do not fine people. By-law officers can only fine persons of the corporation to which they are assigned. Are "you" a part of that corporation? Almost always not. if you're speeding on a bike path guess who gives you the ticket by-law officers if your grass is unkempt guess who gives you the ticket by-law officers if you have unregistered dilapidated vehicles on "your" property guess who gives you the ticket by-law officers (°ö°) Swirl Life |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80570019 ![]() 09/05/2021 11:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Corporate wanted to shed people for a long time and needed a good reason to. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80800491 They will use by-law officers going around to fine people with tickets like they did early on with covid. here's a thought when these 'bylaw' officers come around they should be surrounded and stripped of their uniforms,clothes,gear, and set naked on their way unharmed. this has been done successfully in britain. by-law officers in many cities are armed the same as cops self defense allows for equal force to the perceived threat. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80800491 ![]() 09/05/2021 11:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But I am in IT in the biggest bank of Canada and working from home so it would probably take them some time to fire me. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79952624 Your bank is currently trying to re-populate their office space with 75% of the workforce (I guess in order to keep the names attached to the buildings). How's that coming along? |
Terrebonne User ID: 80803080 ![]() 09/05/2021 11:34 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Be patient and just wait it out, by the end of flu season most of the people that took the shot won't be around and businesses will be begging for you to attain all the venues you like. ![]() . INFJ; We are the protectors; One Percent of the population. We put a lot of energy into identifying the best system for getting things done, and constantly define and re-define the priorities. We know things intuitively, without being able to pinpoint why, and without detailed knowledge of the subject at hand. We are usually right, and we usually know it. [link to www.personalitypage.com] . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80712948 09/05/2021 11:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That means the vaxxed population will need to die off soon in order to save humanity? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80800491 Not if enough of these vaccinated sheep wake up and boycott the vaccine passport. The only way this is going away if through non-compliance. What can Ontario Premier Doug Ford do if everyone mutinies on him and refuses to follow his orders. Nothing that's what. He is powerless unless if he can get enough people to follow his illegal orders. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80712948 09/05/2021 11:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Be patient and just wait it out, by the end of flu season most of the people that took the shot won't be around and businesses will be begging for you to attain all the venues you like. Quoting: Terrebonne ![]() . I don't care. I am staying home. Most businesses can go bankrupt for all I care. Most of them gleefully went along with this tyranny for over a year and ordered their workers to be vaccinated with this bio weapon or lose their jobs. These businesses who act like a bunch of authoritarian fascist assholes get what is coming to them. Without the majority of them following illegal government dictates none of this covid scamdemic would of been possible. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 6255995 ![]() 09/05/2021 11:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I’m in Ontario and starting in a few weeks I will no longer be legally allowed in many in door setting - dining in, event centre, sports events, casinos and a number of other similar venues. We’re getting vax passports and I’m unvaxxed so I’m now a lesser class of person. This is a really inconceivable thing to wrap my head around. I am a 80s kid from Canada and have been fed crap my entire life about how amazing, open minded and diverse our country is. Our differences are supposed to be our strength. Quoting: Canadian mom This is a lot to process to be honest. And I don’t feel like most of my peers are really acknowledging that this is a thing bc I feel like the average person should have an issue with it and they don’t. What a time to be alive Sometimes I think that what they truly want is chaos. After all, one of their favorite strategies is to create order from chaos. If I had to guess, all of this insanity will lead to home-grown terrorist groups; perhaps even a revolution. They will then use this resistance to further demonize those who oppose their tyranny, and the sheeple will go along with everything the government says. Sad day for Canada... I've seen this coming for a long time now...but part of me never really thought they'd go full retard so soon. But it's here... |
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DoNotCooperate User ID: 80826130 ![]() 09/05/2021 11:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80580656 here's a thought when these 'bylaw' officers come around they should be surrounded and stripped of their uniforms,clothes,gear, and set naked on their way unharmed. this has been done successfully in britain. by-law officers in many cities are armed the same as cops By-law officers do not fine people. By-law officers can only fine persons of the corporation to which they are assigned. Are "you" a part of that corporation? Almost always not. if you're speeding on a bike path guess who gives you the ticket by-law officers if your grass is unkempt guess who gives you the ticket by-law officers if you have unregistered dilapidated vehicles on "your" property guess who gives you the ticket by-law officers You do not comprehend the words and that is why you will receive the "tickets" you wrote of. By-laws do not apply to anyone. They have a specific application. 99% of the people receiving "tickets" do not know this. A "ticket" for speeding on a bike path is only for anyone ignorant enough to present their Public person to liablility by conversion... and, is unsecured and completely unenforceable... If your grass is uncut (not unkept) and the municipality wants tens of thousands of dollars to cut it you either accepted a fools offer or can't settle in equity... If a ticket is "given" because an unregistered vehicle is on your property this is first handled by notice by you and no one has the authority to administer the property of a man or woman without consent. What about an old wheelbarrow or old washing machine? This type of "ticket" is completely unenforceable if one knows even the mere elements of what property is... By-laws are not the laws of the land or the laws of life. By-laws only apply to the corporation for which they are written. Are you a part thereof??? You only proved my point that people get bullied because they do not take the time to learn the laws of the society they are surrouned by. DoNotCooperate |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6255995 ![]() 09/05/2021 11:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i can't afford to eat at restaurants, go to concerts, go out in general Quoting: bavaria777 so long as i can buy food at costco or grocery stores, then i don't care about the vaccine passport You haven't learned how they operate by now? This is just the beginning... They ALWAYS use this trick. Give them your hand, they take your arm. Come on, man...pay attention! |
bavaria777 User ID: 78892081 ![]() 09/05/2021 11:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i can't afford to eat at restaurants, go to concerts, go out in general Quoting: bavaria777 so long as i can buy food at costco or grocery stores, then i don't care about the vaccine passport You haven't learned how they operate by now? This is just the beginning... They ALWAYS use this trick. Give them your hand, they take your arm. Come on, man...pay attention! vaccinated people will then charge money to go grocery shopping for the unvaccinated -- or just order online groceries bavaria777 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 65463568 ![]() 09/05/2021 11:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But why? Please provide a rational reason other than saying "selfish" or "paranoid". Answer these questions: 1. Why have effective therapeutics been suppressed and even mocked when they have helped people all over the world? Unproven. Lack of full publication (ie. not pre-prints) of high quality (randomized, controlled etc., sufficient sample sizes) in any of the most respected peer-reviewed medical journals. Counter = conspiracy, corruption, supression and bogus info/stories to support claims of such yadda yadda. 2. What are the long term health affects of the vaccines? Similar to other vaccines; few if any. Why would this be any different than them? Just because of MRNA type? Oh because you probably believe stuff like vaccines=autism etc. etc. Same as above... prove it. Also maybe try evaluating the risks of death or long term affects from Covid itself. 3. How effective will vaccine passports be when these vaccines are not sterilizing? Viral load and duration. Better than not doing this. |
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Naunet User ID: 75919805 ![]() 09/05/2021 12:04 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | By-law officers do not fine people. By-law officers can only fine persons of the corporation to which they are assigned. Are "you" a part of that corporation? Almost always not. if you're speeding on a bike path guess who gives you the ticket by-law officers if your grass is unkempt guess who gives you the ticket by-law officers if you have unregistered dilapidated vehicles on "your" property guess who gives you the ticket by-law officers You do not comprehend the words and that is why you will receive the "tickets" you wrote of. By-laws do not apply to anyone. They have a specific application. 99% of the people receiving "tickets" do not know this. A "ticket" for speeding on a bike path is only for anyone ignorant enough to present their Public person to liablility by conversion... and, is unsecured and completely unenforceable... If your grass is uncut (not unkept) and the municipality wants tens of thousands of dollars to cut it you either accepted a fools offer or can't settle in equity... If a ticket is "given" because an unregistered vehicle is on your property this is first handled by notice by you and no one has the authority to administer the property of a man or woman without consent. What about an old wheelbarrow or old washing machine? This type of "ticket" is completely unenforceable if one knows even the mere elements of what property is... By-laws are not the laws of the land or the laws of life. By-laws only apply to the corporation for which they are written. Are you a part thereof??? You only proved my point that people get bullied because they do not take the time to learn the laws of the society they are surrouned by. anything the municipality enforces eg. they issue notice to cut your grass and you don't and they send out a crew to cut it the fees will be added to the property taxes good luck getting out of those "fines" anything by-law "tickets" you for on "your" property eg. they can't remove your vehicles or junk appliances they give notices and then "tickets" if you don't pay those tickets they add it to the property taxes if they get the enviro-tards involved they can serve you with court order to remove the "environmental hazards" that are your junk vehicles / appliances you do not "own" property, you are a tenant under a modern type of feudalism that's why there are "property taxes" the city / municipality can expropriate / confiscate "your" property without compensation if you do not maintain it in accordance with the laws and by-laws (°ö°) Swirl Life |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79952624 ![]() 09/05/2021 12:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But I am in IT in the biggest bank of Canada and working from home so it would probably take them some time to fire me. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79952624 Your bank is currently trying to re-populate their office space with 75% of the workforce (I guess in order to keep the names attached to the buildings). How's that coming along? We don’t actually have permanent office, when lockdowns started the bank did not extend the lease on several buildings downtown Toronto which is a very smart move. They are now building a shared office space (will probably take at least 6-9 months to finish) but there will be no permanent desks for most IT people. At this moment they are doing the experimental return to office for those who really want to be in the office but last week the condition of attending the office changed to “fully vaccinated only”. Basically at this stage I am trying to save as much money as possible, I make all copies of their vax emails and policies. They are not that stupid, even if everybody starts mandating vax in banks, we have close to one year when most of the people can still work from home. With no permanent office space it would be very difficult to mandate vax for all remote workers (even in socialist/fascist country as Canada). They know that they are going to lose at least 30% of workforce if they mandate vax on remote workers. I bet there will be companies that can absorb them gladly (although with loss in salary). The troubling thing is that most of my co-workers are actually double-jabbed and we had conversations with them last year how all this plandemic is staged and obviously false. My wife is secretly double-jabbed. She truly believe that if I catch this virus I am going to die. The more troubling thing is that she really believes that my son needs this jab to be saved once mandated (he is still too young for current mandates) and there is nothing I can do here. Government will be on her side 100% when time comes. And she is actually a smart person, also on IT business. |
sseess User ID: 80377409 ![]() 09/05/2021 12:08 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I’m in Ontario and starting in a few weeks I will no longer be legally allowed in many in door setting - dining in, event centre, sports events, casinos and a number of other similar venues. We’re getting vax passports and I’m unvaxxed so I’m now a lesser class of person. This is a really inconceivable thing to wrap my head around. I am a 80s kid from Canada and have been fed crap my entire life about how amazing, open minded and diverse our country is. Our differences are supposed to be our strength. Quoting: Canadian mom This is a lot to process to be honest. And I don’t feel like most of my peers are really acknowledging that this is a thing bc I feel like the average person should have an issue with it and they don’t. What a time to be alive Those who get Rona have much better immunity than the vaxed but don’t get the Nazi papers. Ivermectin is just as effective as the vax. Both keep you out of the hospital when you get it. No one gets "it". They do get the flu, and that is all. |
DoNotCooperate User ID: 80826130 ![]() 09/05/2021 12:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: DoNotCooperate By-law officers do not fine people. By-law officers can only fine persons of the corporation to which they are assigned. Are "you" a part of that corporation? Almost always not. if you're speeding on a bike path guess who gives you the ticket by-law officers if your grass is unkempt guess who gives you the ticket by-law officers if you have unregistered dilapidated vehicles on "your" property guess who gives you the ticket by-law officers You do not comprehend the words and that is why you will receive the "tickets" you wrote of. By-laws do not apply to anyone. They have a specific application. 99% of the people receiving "tickets" do not know this. A "ticket" for speeding on a bike path is only for anyone ignorant enough to present their Public person to liablility by conversion... and, is unsecured and completely unenforceable... If your grass is uncut (not unkept) and the municipality wants tens of thousands of dollars to cut it you either accepted a fools offer or can't settle in equity... If a ticket is "given" because an unregistered vehicle is on your property this is first handled by notice by you and no one has the authority to administer the property of a man or woman without consent. What about an old wheelbarrow or old washing machine? This type of "ticket" is completely unenforceable if one knows even the mere elements of what property is... By-laws are not the laws of the land or the laws of life. By-laws only apply to the corporation for which they are written. Are you a part thereof??? You only proved my point that people get bullied because they do not take the time to learn the laws of the society they are surrouned by. anything the municipality enforces eg. they issue notice to cut your grass and you don't and they send out a crew to cut it the fees will be added to the property taxes good luck getting out of those "fines" anything by-law "tickets" you for on "your" property eg. they can't remove your vehicles or junk appliances they give notices and then "tickets" if you don't pay those tickets they add it to the property taxes if they get the enviro-tards involved they can serve you with court order to remove the "environmental hazards" that are your junk vehicles / appliances you do not "own" property, you are a tenant under a modern type of feudalism that's why there are "property taxes" the city / municipality can expropriate / confiscate "your" property without compensation if you do not maintain it in accordance with the laws and by-laws I don't need luck I have been working with law for decades. I'm just trying to show you people here that what you see on its face is utterly false. Just like the pandemic is false, most -but not all- law enforcement is falsly applied. I'm not worried, I know how to live and how to operate. I have never lost any property and have exchanged with law enforcement. You should try to learn more and make less accusatory writings. DoNotCooperate |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80759460 ![]() 09/05/2021 12:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I can't feel for you op. I'm a 1st class citizen who will not be dying from the Chinese bioweapon. You have the option to save your own life yet you choose not to and by doing so risk everyone around you. You should be in a camp with all the other unvaxxed. |
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