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Any other Canadians trying to wrap their heads around becoming a second class citizen??

 
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Why don't you STAND UP and DO SOMETHING about it.

It's up to YOU.
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I can't feel for you op. I'm a 1st class citizen who will not be dying from the Chinese bioweapon. You have the option to save your own life yet you choose not to and by doing so risk everyone around you. You should be in a camp with all the other unvaxxed.
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RUDE
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what do we do when all the vaccinated dolts are all dead in two years?

what then???

damned
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I feel optimistic, despite this road we are on. In a way it's liberating to know that your government isn't going to save you (in fact, the opposite). I've never felt such a bond with my fellow patriots in Canada and world wide. I just pray that no one is ever drawn into violence. All we need to do is stand up collectively and reject this infringement of our God-given (not Government-given) rights. They cannot enforce it if enough people say NO.
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i can't afford to eat at restaurants, go to concerts, go out in general

so long as i can buy food at costco or grocery stores, then i don't care about the vaccine passport
 Quoting: bavaria777


Ya but they will expand the vaccine passport to include all businesses including grocery stores because they want to force you to take their bio weapon against your will or you won't be allowed to eat. Saying you have a choice is like saying the mugger with gun pointed at your head ordering you to give them your money or they will shoot you is a choice. It isn't.
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i can't afford to eat at restaurants, go to concerts, go out in general

so long as i can buy food at costco or grocery stores, then i don't care about the vaccine passport
 Quoting: bavaria777


Ya but they will expand the vaccine passport to include all businesses including grocery stores because they want to force you to take their bio weapon against your will or you won't be allowed to eat. Saying you have a choice is like saying the mugger with gun pointed at your head ordering you to give them your money or they will shoot you is a choice. It isn't.
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All I can say is hold out as long as you can and die standing on your feet instead of your knees.
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If you feel lesser, that's your problem.

I'm not vaccinated and won't be getting a pass. I don't feel the least bit inferior. They'll be crying for money sooner than later.
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If they treat you like a second class citizen then BECOME a second class citizen.

Dont do what you're supposed to.


The other viable option is the unite with the natives. Have Chiefs run ceremonies making the "second class" citizens into tribe members. Native reserves run their own rules. Imagine having millions of new people in the native community. It would give them power in numbers. The government would be pissed!!!

It would also scare the shit out of the government because any move against the natives would be seen as an attack against their agreements and treaties.
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If you feel lesser, that's your problem.

I'm not vaccinated and won't be getting a pass. I don't feel the least bit inferior. They'll be crying for money sooner than later.
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I plan on putting a few brown notes in my wallet so when they turn me away I can show them what they're really losing out on
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You Canadians messed up giving away your gun rights
Go get those back
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Lots of guns in Canada. Lots.
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I am also in Ontario and in the same boat as you. I am very disappointed in Doug Ford for reversing his decision about passports. I can't believe how easily and quickly the majority of people jumped willingly onto this rabbit hole in which we are heading.

All of our freedoms are being stripped away right in front of of our own eyes. So many people aren't seeing this for what it really is - CONTROL.

If the vaxxed think it's all good and fine because THEY can still participate in society, all I can say to them is be careful what you wish for because much more tyranny is on the way and it WILL affect them too. It starts off by small steps of dividing people....you segregate subjects by skin-color, religion, beliefs. You offer small perks and privileges to one side and take from another.

Next they introduce more laws and restrictions, and guess what???? Now we have a cashless society based on credits. But they won't stop there, now those credits you need to use for your most basic of needs will be based on how you are with other people, so Social Credits. They are already doing it in China, look it up. Also that Netflix series called Black Mirror has an episode called Social Dilemma, or something similar. I highly recommend watching it.

Hang in there OP, it's going to get a lot worse before it starts to get better. Get to know other like-minded people because this is going to be one helluva roller coaster ride!!
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I wonder if I break the law, will I be allowed in their prisons if I'm unvaxxed?
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They will probably jab you before you get taken in.
What choice do I have but to be myself? Everyone else was already taken.

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what do we do when all the vaccinated dolts are all dead in two years?

what then???

damned
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we take their homes, cars, and assets and live like pureblood kings.
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Keep remembering that you're not alone.

We are legion. Don't budge.
 Quoting: Patagonians


Yes!!

Don’t give up!

We know what their agenda is and we will not accept it. Chris Sky seems to be picking joy steam and has a Toronto rally in September.
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...


if you're speeding on a bike path
guess who gives you the ticket
by-law officers

if your grass is unkempt
guess who gives you the ticket
by-law officers

if you have unregistered dilapidated vehicles on "your" property
guess who gives you the ticket
by-law officers
 Quoting: Naunet


You do not comprehend the words and that is why you will receive the "tickets" you wrote of. By-laws do not apply to anyone. They have a specific application. 99% of the people receiving "tickets" do not know this.

A "ticket" for speeding on a bike path is only for anyone ignorant enough to present their Public person to liablility by conversion... and, is unsecured and completely unenforceable...

If your grass is uncut (not unkept) and the municipality wants tens of thousands of dollars to cut it you either accepted a fools offer or can't settle in equity...

If a ticket is "given" because an unregistered vehicle is on your property this is first handled by notice by you and no one has the authority to administer the property of a man or woman without consent. What about an old wheelbarrow or old washing machine? This type of "ticket" is completely unenforceable if one knows even the mere elements of what property is...

By-laws are not the laws of the land or the laws of life. By-laws only apply to the corporation for which they are written. Are you a part thereof???

You only proved my point that people get bullied because they do not take the time to learn the laws of the society they are surrouned by.
 Quoting: DoNotCooperate


anything the municipality enforces
eg.
they issue notice to cut your grass
and you don't
and they send out a crew to cut it
the fees will be added to the property taxes

good luck getting out of those "fines"


anything by-law "tickets" you for on "your" property
eg.
they can't remove your vehicles or junk appliances
they give notices and then "tickets"
if you don't pay those tickets
they add it to the property taxes

if they get the enviro-tards involved
they can serve you with court order to remove the "environmental hazards" that are your junk vehicles / appliances

you do not "own" property, you are a tenant under a modern type of feudalism
that's why there are "property taxes"

the city / municipality can expropriate / confiscate "your" property without compensation if you do not maintain it in accordance with the laws and by-laws
 Quoting: Naunet


I don't need luck I have been working with law for decades. I'm just trying to show you people here that what you see on its face is utterly false. Just like the pandemic is false, most -but not all- law enforcement is falsly applied. I'm not worried, I know how to live and how to operate. I have never lost any property and have exchanged with law enforcement. You should try to learn more and make less accusatory writings.
 Quoting: DoNotCooperate


you cannot contravene
the federal criminal code
the provincial criminal code
or municipal by-laws
or provincial and municipal traffic laws

without potential repercussions

try driving without a "license, registration and insurance"

see how long before you get "caught and charged with criminal and traffic offenses"
(°ö°)
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Re: Any other Canadians trying to wrap their heads around becoming a second class citizen??
First of all: YOU ARE NOT A SECOND CLASS CITIZEN so do not even think that or let anyone make you feel that way.

When asked if you are vaxxed, it is because they want to feel superior and one thing about Canadians: they are goody two shoes and always like to have someone to look down on i.e. native people, immigrants, disabled, etc., etc.

Get indignant and a strong attitude. Be assertive and state:
"I'm not have that poison injected into me!!! Do you know how many have died from blood clots and strokes??? You'd be out of your mind to believe the propaganda. Turn off your TV and get a life!"

To which, the person will stare with their mouth open, recoil, not stand up to you. In the case that they are totally stupid and want to argue, just state:

"I'm not going to argue with you. If I can find out the truth, then so can you. You need to get your act together!!"

Get them on the defensive. They are the idiots who believed all this crap and they are trying to pull you down with them. So be strong, act bossy and don't take any stupidity from these morons. Turn it back on them. They are the ones who have put us in this position!!!!!
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I’m in Ontario and starting in a few weeks I will no longer be legally allowed in many in door setting - dining in, event centre, sports events, casinos and a number of other similar venues. We’re getting vax passports and I’m unvaxxed so I’m now a lesser class of person. This is a really inconceivable thing to wrap my head around. I am a 80s kid from Canada and have been fed crap my entire life about how amazing, open minded and diverse our country is. Our differences are supposed to be our strength.

This is a lot to process to be honest. And I don’t feel like most of my
peers are really acknowledging that this is a thing bc I feel like the average person should have an issue with it and they don’t.

What a time to be alive
 Quoting: Canadian mom


To be honest, overall the average restaurant usually stays open for two years and they hardly make it, in a good market.

With covid, most of them already shut down. These passports are the nail in the coffin.

They will not survive - only then will you see an uprise. They need every customer They can get.

Food prices are soaring, people are leaving their jobs. The Domino affect will devastate most of the businesses that require a passport.
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i can't afford to eat at restaurants, go to concerts, go out in general

so long as i can buy food at costco or grocery stores, then i don't care about the vaccine passport
 Quoting: bavaria777


A relative contacted the Premiers Office and the Ontario Minister of Health. He asked them to provide a guarantee that the unvaccinated wouldnt be held back from buying food or essentials ..... he's still waiting for a reply.



If they dont reply with the request, it means they have already planned to starve people.

If they do reply with the request, then it can be used as a verbal agreement/contract that if they break then it can be used in a legal challenge/lawsuit.
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I’m in Ontario and starting in a few weeks I will no longer be legally allowed in many in door setting - dining in, event centre, sports events, casinos and a number of other similar venues. We’re getting vax passports and I’m unvaxxed so I’m now a lesser class of person. This is a really inconceivable thing to wrap my head around. I am a 80s kid from Canada and have been fed crap my entire life about how amazing, open minded and diverse our country is. Our differences are supposed to be our strength.

This is a lot to process to be honest. And I don’t feel like most of my
peers are really acknowledging that this is a thing bc I feel like the average person should have an issue with it and they don’t.

What a time to be alive
 Quoting: Canadian mom


To be honest, overall the average restaurant usually stays open for two years and they hardly make it, in a good market.

With covid, most of them already shut down. These passports are the nail in the coffin.

They will not survive - only then will you see an uprise. They need every customer They can get.

Food prices are soaring, people are leaving their jobs. The Domino affect will devastate most of the businesses that require a passport.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80808551


The gyms around here already doubled their prices after the first lockdown (I'm talking $200+/month in some cases).

As for the restaurants... they're fucked. Sure, vaxxed people can eat -- but unless an entire family is vaxxed, I guess they're out of luck if they want to go out for a family dinner. Same with friends and such.

I suppose if you're dumb enough to enforce it you probably don't have very good business sense to begin with
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If you feel lesser, that's your problem.

I'm not vaccinated and won't be getting a pass. I don't feel the least bit inferior. They'll be crying for money sooner than later.
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Yup
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I am also in Ontario and in the same boat as you. I am very disappointed in Doug Ford for reversing his decision about passports. I can't believe how easily and quickly the majority of people jumped willingly onto this rabbit hole in which we are heading.

All of our freedoms are being stripped away right in front of of our own eyes. So many people aren't seeing this for what it really is - CONTROL.

If the vaxxed think it's all good and fine because THEY can still participate in society, all I can say to them is be careful what you wish for because much more tyranny is on the way and it WILL affect them too. It starts off by small steps of dividing people....you segregate subjects by skin-color, religion, beliefs. You offer small perks and privileges to one side and take from another.

Next they introduce more laws and restrictions, and guess what???? Now we have a cashless society based on credits. But they won't stop there, now those credits you need to use for your most basic of needs will be based on how you are with other people, so Social Credits. They are already doing it in China, look it up. Also that Netflix series called Black Mirror has an episode called Social Dilemma, or something similar. I highly recommend watching it.

Hang in there OP, it's going to get a lot worse before it starts to get better. Get to know other like-minded people because this is going to be one helluva roller coaster ride!!
 Quoting: ISeeAll


Ontarians do NOT want a vaccine passport. Look at polls all over the place. The MSM headlines can say that the "majority" want them, but that is not an actual fact.

In other words, BOTH the vaxxed and unvaxxed are against them!
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And one more thing, if you feel lesser, you are giving them the win. This is not the time to give up.
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If they ever implement passports for grocery stores, that's when everyone will starve because of the fire bombings of food sores!
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I can't feel for you op. I'm a 1st class citizen who will not be dying from the Chinese bioweapon. You have the option to save your own life yet you choose not to and by doing so risk everyone around you. You should be in a camp with all the other unvaxxed.
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RUDE
 Quoting: Canadian mom


Not only Rude,, but a braindead idiot. Okay, see you at the cemetery you vaxxed moron.
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I'm in Ontario, and it wont affect me at all. I have no interest in going to any of the places they are trying to bar me from, and in fact quit society a decade ago.

Jokes on them. They arent doing shit to me.
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In northeast BC here. Someone started a FB group for businesses that don’t discriminate. The began handing out green heart stickers to anyone who wants them to stick in their business or vehicle windows to show that their establishment is open to anyone. I think it is a great initiative. I’m not sure if it was adopted from another town or city, but hopefully it spreads far and wide through Canada. I currently maintain my employment, but I wonder if it isn’t a matter of time before the expectation is put forward. My husband and I have four children but I’ve told him I will not acquiesce. He is in sales and is now being told that the various companies he sells to are all going to demand proof of vax or a negative Covid test within 72 hours of coming on to site. At that rate he would have to test every day. He doesn’t want to lose his job but when you rely on Commission, making waves over this would have you laughed out of the industry. He is actually considering getting vaxxed and I told him we just need to sell the house and figure something out. I know we aren’t alone on this but it is hard to not feel completely isolated.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80829400


I have a friend who got the jab because he wouldn’t have to get tested or wear a mask. Well the masks went back on and now he has to be tested everyday. He works at a nursing home. So don’t get it for any other reason than you think it will save you from bad effects from Covid. Also the jabs wear off but we don’t know if the side effects do. Better to find anther job for now until people realize the jabs don’t work and beg people to come back to their jobs.
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In northeast BC here. Someone started a FB group for businesses that don’t discriminate. The began handing out green heart stickers to anyone who wants them to stick in their business or vehicle windows to show that their establishment is open to anyone. I think it is a great initiative. I’m not sure if it was adopted from another town or city, but hopefully it spreads far and wide through Canada. I currently maintain my employment, but I wonder if it isn’t a matter of time before the expectation is put forward. My husband and I have four children but I’ve told him I will not acquiesce. He is in sales and is now being told that the various companies he sells to are all going to demand proof of vax or a negative Covid test within 72 hours of coming on to site. At that rate he would have to test every day. He doesn’t want to lose his job but when you rely on Commission, making waves over this would have you laughed out of the industry. He is actually considering getting vaxxed and I told him we just need to sell the house and figure something out. I know we aren’t alone on this but it is hard to not feel completely isolated.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80829400


We have four kids too, I feel so vulnerable sometimes. I want to take them hide in the woods til the storm passes. But of coarse that’s not how life works.
 Quoting: Canadian mom


It is for some of us. Where there is a will there is a way. Always remember that.
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Re: Any other Canadians trying to wrap their heads around becoming a second class citizen??
I am in Ontario too. In addition to all the entertainment restrictions (I don’t attend them), I won’t be allowed to work in office unless fully vaccinated, no negative test exempts now.

But I am in IT in the biggest bank of Canada and working from home so it would probably take them some time to fire me.

Royal conservatory of music announced last week that they forbid unvaxxed to go in their buildings meaning that if you want your kid to continue learning music there, you have to hire some vaxxed person for dropping them off/picking them up.


I bet they are going to ban unvaxxed from attending dentists and other medical doctors in a couple of months. And for sure they will try to mandate this mRNA poison on all schoolchildren soon where as other countries stop vaccinating kids. Canada is just that retarded.

When these restrictions won’t work (and won’t help with their false positive cases), they would probably try to prohibit uvaxxed from getting groceries from the stores leaving with only possibility of online shopping/delivery. So not really critical.

When all their hysteria peaks in January/February (on peak of flue season), they may try to ban unvaxxed from their condo buildings and public transportation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79952624


Don’t give in to fear. That’s what they want. Just take it day by day.





GLP