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Everytime my AT&T goes out, Spectrum knocks on my door

 
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Everytime my AT&T goes out, Spectrum knocks on my door
So in 2020 Spectrum laid lines in our area. They started knocking on doors and calling to sell in our area, in competition with AT&T.

We never had any internet outages prior to that, at least none sustained or noticeable. 4 times since then, it's been out, for some duration. Each time, within a day or so, a Spectrum sales person comes knocking. We have an open ticket right now with AT&T and a Spectrum person just rang the doorbell.


wtf

Shouldn't AT&T care about that? They don't seem to, we keep telling them. Is it possible that there is some kind of corporate sabotage involved? Or are they in cahoots? What's the angle here?
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Re: Everytime my AT&T goes out, Spectrum knocks on my door
sounds like a conspiracy to me
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09/07/2021 07:13 PM
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Re: Everytime my AT&T goes out, Spectrum knocks on my door
I have the exact same thing happen when I try to get accounts for the public city wifi stuff they're starting up. It's creepy. They're all older guys 40s+ with the creepy pedo mustaches and 40" waistline lol.
Ba rum pum pum pum...
Ba rum pum pum pum...
Ba rum pum pum pum...
Boom boom boom.

The war on landlords and serfdom continues. The government should be the landlord. Allowing landlords to be middlemen only breeds corruption and ensures yearly inflation increases.
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Re: Everytime my AT&T goes out, Spectrum knocks on my door
Nope, don't seem odd at all. Nothing to see here. damned
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Re: Everytime my AT&T goes out, Spectrum knocks on my door
Nope, don't seem odd at all. Nothing to see here. damned
 Quoting: Shadow_SNR


This is actually a real deal though. If your router presence goes out for like 30 mins or so (at least where I'm at) competing companies will knock on your door and literally tell us they noticed my/our internet is out.

Like wtf lol.
Ba rum pum pum pum...
Ba rum pum pum pum...
Ba rum pum pum pum...
Boom boom boom.

The war on landlords and serfdom continues. The government should be the landlord. Allowing landlords to be middlemen only breeds corruption and ensures yearly inflation increases.
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09/07/2021 07:17 PM
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I guess our next step is call a consumer watchdog group. I wish this time I had asked for a business card to document it.

I'm sure there will be a next time.
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Re: Everytime my AT&T goes out, Spectrum knocks on my door
Nope, don't seem odd at all. Nothing to see here. damned
 Quoting: Shadow_SNR


This is actually a real deal though. If your router presence goes out for like 30 mins or so (at least where I'm at) competing companies will knock on your door and literally tell us they noticed my/our internet is out.

Like wtf lol.
 Quoting: GreenMonkey


No shit!?

How?
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I guess our next step is call a consumer watchdog group. I wish this time I had asked for a business card to document it.

I'm sure there will be a next time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80839823


This happens to me 3 or 4 times each and every year. Usually when lightning hits a generator or something.
Ba rum pum pum pum...
Ba rum pum pum pum...
Ba rum pum pum pum...
Boom boom boom.

The war on landlords and serfdom continues. The government should be the landlord. Allowing landlords to be middlemen only breeds corruption and ensures yearly inflation increases.
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09/07/2021 07:19 PM
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Re: Everytime my AT&T goes out, Spectrum knocks on my door
I forgot! Last week we had a cold call from Spectrum via phone. Then the service went out Monday.
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09/07/2021 07:40 PM
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Re: Everytime my AT&T goes out, Spectrum knocks on my door
No kidding, these companies have techs that will sabotage the competing companies lines to get business these days.
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Re: Everytime my AT&T goes out, Spectrum knocks on my door
No kidding, these companies have techs that will sabotage the competing companies lines to get business these days.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80840849


i really really doubt it. unless business is just that slow but with the lazy/sloth generations coming out of the bread ovens these days i really really doubt it...they need it like an invisible life/blood line.


for them the internet is a neon yellow nippy for their sippy of drank.

nods, mouth waters

Last Edited by GreenMonkey on 09/07/2021 07:45 PM
Ba rum pum pum pum...
Ba rum pum pum pum...
Ba rum pum pum pum...
Boom boom boom.

The war on landlords and serfdom continues. The government should be the landlord. Allowing landlords to be middlemen only breeds corruption and ensures yearly inflation increases.
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Re: Everytime my AT&T goes out, Spectrum knocks on my door
So in 2020 Spectrum laid lines in our area. They started knocking on doors and calling to sell in our area, in competition with AT&T.

We never had any internet outages prior to that, at least none sustained or noticeable. 4 times since then, it's been out, for some duration. Each time, within a day or so, a Spectrum sales person comes knocking. We have an open ticket right now with AT&T and a Spectrum person just rang the doorbell.


wtf

Shouldn't AT&T care about that? They don't seem to, we keep telling them. Is it possible that there is some kind of corporate sabotage involved? Or are they in cahoots? What's the angle here?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80839823


Haha!

Sounds like Spectrum is disconnecting AT&T to get you to switch. Haha!

S.M.H.
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Re: Everytime my AT&T goes out, Spectrum knocks on my door
So in 2020 Spectrum laid lines in our area. They started knocking on doors and calling to sell in our area, in competition with AT&T.

We never had any internet outages prior to that, at least none sustained or noticeable. 4 times since then, it's been out, for some duration. Each time, within a day or so, a Spectrum sales person comes knocking. We have an open ticket right now with AT&T and a Spectrum person just rang the doorbell.


wtf

Shouldn't AT&T care about that? They don't seem to, we keep telling them. Is it possible that there is some kind of corporate sabotage involved? Or are they in cahoots? What's the angle here?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80839823


Haha!

Sounds like Spectrum is disconnecting AT&T to get you to switch. Haha!

S.M.H.
 Quoting: Mason Firefly


Why would Spectrum though? They have more influencing power and lobbyists and have been trying to choke AT&T for years now.

I mean they have the political clout (business ties to Microsoft giant) and business power (again...) to flip the switch on AT&T. I don't really think they'd try to actively shut off AT&T customers lol.
Ba rum pum pum pum...
Ba rum pum pum pum...
Ba rum pum pum pum...
Boom boom boom.

The war on landlords and serfdom continues. The government should be the landlord. Allowing landlords to be middlemen only breeds corruption and ensures yearly inflation increases.
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09/07/2021 07:49 PM
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Re: Everytime my AT&T goes out, Spectrum knocks on my door
So in 2020 Spectrum laid lines in our area. They started knocking on doors and calling to sell in our area, in competition with AT&T.

We never had any internet outages prior to that, at least none sustained or noticeable. 4 times since then, it's been out, for some duration. Each time, within a day or so, a Spectrum sales person comes knocking. We have an open ticket right now with AT&T and a Spectrum person just rang the doorbell.


wtf

Shouldn't AT&T care about that? They don't seem to, we keep telling them. Is it possible that there is some kind of corporate sabotage involved? Or are they in cahoots? What's the angle here?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80839823


Haha!

Sounds like Spectrum is disconnecting AT&T to get you to switch. Haha!

S.M.H.
 Quoting: Mason Firefly


Why would Spectrum though? They have more influencing power and lobbyists and have been trying to choke AT&T for years now.

I mean they have the political clout (business ties to Microsoft giant) and business power (again...) to flip the switch on AT&T. I don't really think they'd try to actively shut off AT&T customers lol.
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Can you explain more how they could possibly know of a service disruption? Do they share the same main box?
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Re: Everytime my AT&T goes out, Spectrum knocks on my door
So in 2020 Spectrum laid lines in our area. They started knocking on doors and calling to sell in our area, in competition with AT&T.

We never had any internet outages prior to that, at least none sustained or noticeable. 4 times since then, it's been out, for some duration. Each time, within a day or so, a Spectrum sales person comes knocking. We have an open ticket right now with AT&T and a Spectrum person just rang the doorbell.


wtf

Shouldn't AT&T care about that? They don't seem to, we keep telling them. Is it possible that there is some kind of corporate sabotage involved? Or are they in cahoots? What's the angle here?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80839823


Haha!

Sounds like Spectrum is disconnecting AT&T to get you to switch. Haha!

S.M.H.
 Quoting: Mason Firefly


Why would Spectrum though? They have more influencing power and lobbyists and have been trying to choke AT&T for years now.

I mean they have the political clout (business ties to Microsoft giant) and business power (again...) to flip the switch on AT&T. I don't really think they'd try to actively shut off AT&T customers lol.
 Quoting: GreenMonkey



Can you explain more how they could possibly know of a service disruption? Do they share the same main box?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80839823


I learned from a buddy who works at Comcast that ISPs are given privileged information from the major backbone outlets (L3, AT&T, others.) This funcationality gives them the ability and reason to ping subscribers. However the casts that come out only identify it as basically an ISP. So lets say you own a.a.a.a as an ISP right?

So you ping your a.a.a.a as ISP B. It echoes back "yep still here, thanks for checking up on me you ole carebear." and the ISP responds "check-check."

Competing ISP says "I'm ISP" (C) are you still there? Router/PC echoes back "yep still here, thanks for checking up on me you ole carebear."

It's a weird thing that happens on the net and it's not suppose to happen because of the way IP4 and IP6 packets are set up. A lot of data scientists think it happens because of caching and control schemes on the internet backbones.

It's also a great way to monitor the feds but we're nowhere close or ready for that disclosure lol. :P

Last Edited by GreenMonkey on 09/07/2021 07:54 PM
Ba rum pum pum pum...
Ba rum pum pum pum...
Ba rum pum pum pum...
Boom boom boom.

The war on landlords and serfdom continues. The government should be the landlord. Allowing landlords to be middlemen only breeds corruption and ensures yearly inflation increases.
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Haha!

Sounds like Spectrum is disconnecting AT&T to get you to switch. Haha!

S.M.H.
 Quoting: Mason Firefly


Why would Spectrum though? They have more influencing power and lobbyists and have been trying to choke AT&T for years now.

I mean they have the political clout (business ties to Microsoft giant) and business power (again...) to flip the switch on AT&T. I don't really think they'd try to actively shut off AT&T customers lol.
 Quoting: GreenMonkey



Can you explain more how they could possibly know of a service disruption? Do they share the same main box?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80839823


I learned from a buddy who works at Comcast that ISPs are given privileged information from the major backbone outlets (L3, AT&T, others.) This funcationality gives them the ability and reason to ping subscribers. However the casts that come out only identify it as basically an ISP. So lets say you own a.a.a.a as an ISP right?

So you ping your a.a.a.a as ISP B. It echoes back "yep still here, thanks for checking up on me you ole carebear." and the ISP responds "check-check."

Competing ISP says "I'm ISP" (C) are you still there? Router/PC echoes back "yep still here, thanks for checking up on me you ole carebear."

It's a weird thing that happens on the net and it's not suppose to happen because of the way IP4 and IP6 packets are set up. A lot of data scientists think it happens because of caching and control schemes on the internet backbones.

It's also a great way to monitor the feds but we're nowhere close or ready for that disclosure lol. :P
 Quoting: GreenMonkey


Wow, okay. I'll have to take your word for it. Enjoyed the prose but it went right over my head, lol! Thanks so much though for taking the time to reply, it's all pretty frustrating.
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Re: Everytime my AT&T goes out, Spectrum knocks on my door
I have the exact same thing happen when I try to get accounts for the public city wifi stuff they're starting up. It's creepy. They're all older guys 40s+ with the creepy pedo mustaches and 40" waistline lol.
 Quoting: GreenMonkey


mainland. With a playboy avatar talking about pedo mustaches.How ironic?
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Wow, okay. I'll have to take your word for it. Enjoyed the prose but it went right over my head, lol! Thanks so much though for taking the time to reply, it's all pretty frustrating.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80839823


It's basically like this:
(every little bit...like 5 to 15 seconds depending on provider) the provider (isp) will send out a packet to your router or PC and say "you still there? do i need to keep washing the dishes?" and if you reply back that "yep, i did the laundry!" then it keeps you connected online.

but that to/from the ISP, any ISP for some reason on the internet gets specialized IP numbers or something of the sort that gets treated different from other numbers. Like a special set of registered IP numbers (isp) get to do things with packets/pc's/servers that other IP numbers don't get to.

and they're basically all just on "team ISP." but it's a double edged sword the fat diabetic PC nerds at the ISP and government level don't really get into too much because it just works.

Last Edited by GreenMonkey on 09/07/2021 08:10 PM
Ba rum pum pum pum...
Ba rum pum pum pum...
Ba rum pum pum pum...
Boom boom boom.

The war on landlords and serfdom continues. The government should be the landlord. Allowing landlords to be middlemen only breeds corruption and ensures yearly inflation increases.
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Re: Everytime my AT&T goes out, Spectrum knocks on my door
I have the exact same thing happen when I try to get accounts for the public city wifi stuff they're starting up. It's creepy. They're all older guys 40s+ with the creepy pedo mustaches and 40" waistline lol.
 Quoting: GreenMonkey


mainland. With a playboy avatar talking about pedo mustaches.How ironic?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74934826


You made it weird, lol!

He was just being helpful.
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They're the same company just like Pepsi and coca cola. Berthshire Hathaway, blackrock, and vanguard are the controlling shares of all us companies.
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Re: Everytime my AT&T goes out, Spectrum knocks on my door
I have the exact same thing happen when I try to get accounts for the public city wifi stuff they're starting up. It's creepy. They're all older guys 40s+ with the creepy pedo mustaches and 40" waistline lol.
 Quoting: GreenMonkey


mainland. With a playboy avatar talking about pedo mustaches.How ironic?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74934826


i hate to lay it out for you numbnuts, but you give the avatar power not the avatar itself.
Ba rum pum pum pum...
Ba rum pum pum pum...
Ba rum pum pum pum...
Boom boom boom.

The war on landlords and serfdom continues. The government should be the landlord. Allowing landlords to be middlemen only breeds corruption and ensures yearly inflation increases.





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