Will the Biden vax mandate tank the stock market?

The FED buys the dips these days - if you havent noticed

Is it time to move positions to cash while Biden plays his fiddle while watching the US burn to the ground? Or is it futile as pretty much everything will tank along with it except for food gas shelter which will skyrocket due to supply line shortages?

Yeah, that has been obvious for quite some time. But what is going on now is unprecedented, we have a president with the mentality to burn it all down and start over. The forced covid vax will create a huge impact in the companies ability to get things out as well as the trucking, shipping industry, well pretty much everyone except for maybe Hollywood.

ya ... but have you looked at the FED's balance sheet lately? ... if there's a big dip, it'll only last as long as it takes the FED to reset it's algo's

When it comes time to "Pull it" it will be time to pull it.

I sold all my stocks first thing this morning (haven't done that since last February). It's going to tank, and soon. Whether they blame the mandates or what, I don't care. I'll buy back in at that time. In the meantime, commodities and crypto. Just added to crypto heavily, so I'm leaving it alone. Going heavy on copper, wheat, corn, and coffee. When we get a big dip, I watch DJI and SPX for a bottom, then buy into stocks.

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I think there is a 99% chance we see a huge sell off by October. The mandates will fail, but before they do, the entire real economy will collapse.

I'm doing the same thing right now moving all positions to cash except for some GLD and SLV but I may be moving that soon as well. I'm 99.9% sure we are going to have a massive crash and very soon. If our country gets back to normal I will buy back in then at a much lower price.

Same here stacking some crypto I have done very well with that and I think this mandate etc. will push crypto even higher in the near future.

I have never invested in commodities but yeah that makes a lot of sense with what is happening.

I can't really play commodities, but there's an ETF for everything, so it lets the little fish in. Food will be their next weapon. It's already starting. Grain is the biggie, then cattle and meat products.

Yeah it's definitely not looking good for the near future. If our economy collapses, which many here think it will the 401k's that many working people count on for their future will be liquidated and gone. I think it is time to take action or at the very least people should watch the market and their investments very closely.

There's certainly an interesting dynamic in play here. The fact of the matter is there just aren't any jobs to be had, relatively speaking. The jobs available statistic is simply made up. While that sounds rather simplistic, it's true. There's some useful data in relative terms, as in we can see there are more openings than during the pandemic, but the data also proves that those are in the services sector, and are largely being filled by teenagers.

So now that the CARES act benefits are ending, it's going to become immediately apparent that there are no jobs, and that this recovery is a complete farce. But they have two excuses lined up. First the great resignation, and now the great rejection (as in rejection of the vax).

And what's interesting is that those leaving their jobs for not getting vaxxed, they can be simultaneously counted among the antivaxxers and the great resignators. So the media will be able to talk out both sides of its mouth. On the one hand, they will be able to say the great resignation was a massive success in sticking it to these fat cat capitalists, but on the other hand, they can then turn around ten minutes later and blame the worker shortage on the antivaxxers. So the antivaxxers will be falsely used for communist propaganda, while at the same time taking the blame for a problem that's simply got nothing whatsoever to do with them.

It also redistributes what few jobs are left to the good little boys and girls who go get their vax, and disproportionately punishes and marginalizes anyone who's not a bootlicking piece of shit.

Biden and the deep state can't operate with impunity if there's a major stock market crash ... so PPT it is

The stock market and the economy divorced long ago ... the FED has the best algo's in town to keep the plates spinning for as long as they want

I agree completely, this is something unprecedented and of course, they will lay blame everywhere except for where it belongs. That's how their propaganda works and further destroys the country.

I would buy ammo and food so you can make it to the point where gold or crypto are worth anything. Plan for 12-18 months of hel.

Market opened up this am and then went down. The Vax mandate will kill the market as employees will decide that there lifespans are more important than short term checks to employers that couldn't give a shit less about American values of freedom, ethics, and democracy.

Fuck em.

How Retail Organizations Are Reacting to Biden’s New Vaccine Mandate

Retailers and manufacturers are upbeat about President Biden’s Thursday announcement that certain businesses will be required to mandate vaccinations or weekly COVID-19 tests for employees.

In a Friday statement, the American Apparel & Footwear Association (AAFA) voiced support for the mandate. AAFA has already achieved 100% vaccination across its staff.

“The only way to address the economic fallout from COVID-19 is to resolve the underlying health crisis that we have been dealing with for the past year-and-a-half,” said AAFA president and CEO Steve Lamar in a statement. “These steps will go a long way to ensure that we are getting vaccines in arms, and that we can protect our workforce from this disease that has already cost the world so much.”

Edwin Egee, the VP of government relations and workforce development at the National Retail Federation, said in a statement to FN that the organization appreciates “the administration’s commitment to ensuring workplaces are safe despite the ongoing challenges of the pandemic.” Egee said the NRF will work with the Labor Department as the rule is enforced .

“The industry will continue to encourage Americans to voluntarily protect their own well-being and that of their families by getting vaccinated,” Egee said. “Several of our members have implemented policies mandating vaccinations for some or all of their employees, while others are offering monetary incentives and paid time off.”

The Business Roundtable, a lobbyist group whose members include CEOs from Nike, Walmart, Target, also voiced support for the mandate in a Thursday statement.

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Biden's vaccine mandate could be a shot in the arm for U.S. economy, experts say

President Joe Biden's sweeping vaccine mandate aims to protect more Americans from COVID-19 by requiring that millions of employees at large companies get the shot. Beyond boosting public health, the mandate has another goal: To get the U.S. economic recovery back on track after the Delta variant's spread crimped job growth and consumer confidence.

"Without a doubt, the main stranglehold on the economy and the labor market is the virus," said Ben Zipperer, an economist at the left-leaning Economic Policy Institute. "What that means is, if we want to actually increase employment opportunity, increase the size of the economy and get the size of the labor market back to its pre-pandemic level, we need to get control of the virus — and that includes vaccine mandates."

Employees at big companies will likely feel more comfortable returning to the workplace if they know their co-workers are vaccinated, Zipperer noted. About half of Americans say they favor COVID-19 vaccine mandates for employees working in person at their workplace, according to a recent survey from the Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research.

"These new measures of either vaccination or weekly testing will help employers fill open positions by ensuring potential employees feel safe returning to work as well as support consumer demand as customers will equally feel more comfortable shopping and dining out again," Gusto economist Luke Pardue noted.

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Down 271 points today.

Absolutely I was telling my friends only half-jokingly it may be a good time to invest in lead. Most of my friends are at least light preppers and were stocking when prices were low.

I'm hoping for the best but this smells like a hard crash even with them trying to prop it up. Not just our government is doing this it's everywhere, looking at Australia going full Mad Max is a huge warning sign. I'm hopeful that it will only last 12-18 months

I have talked to a few people about this since yesterday. Even the vaxxed that are not vaccine zealots have agreed it's a bad move for the economy no matter how the MSM tries to spin it.

I have asked my unvaxxed friends if they will take it now. They all said they will never take it under any circumstance. I think those lines have been drawn at this point. Many Americans see the politicians who they do not trust trying to force something that they do not trust. This can't end well for the stock markets at least for the near future.

"Many people are saying", right?

I think the airlines and travel industry are responding positively as well.

Remember, most Americans are vaccinated now and this will make them feel more comfortable with travelling now. Air travel has really started to call off with this latest Delta surge.

the market is a conglomerate of winners and losers, pharmaceuticals are the winners. the result is a boom for the medical industry as a whole! lol

just in time to care for the baby boom generation. funny how things work out! lol

Joshua Bolten, president and CEO of the Business Roundtable, a group of chief executives from companies including Amazon, Walmart and Home Depot, said in a statement Thursday: "Business Roundtable welcomes the Biden Administration's continued vigilance in the fight against COVID. America's business leaders know how critical vaccination and testing are in defeating the pandemic."

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You're right no one trusts politicians unless they are very naive.

But more sick people and more people spending nights in the hospital is very good for the medical industry.

the people going along to get along will find out that cheering on half the country being frog marched out of a job means - THEY, will not have a job either. you cannot have 50% or whatever mad max unemployment and just chuckle glibly to yourself about how smart and clever you are and while all the people you depend on up and downstream to make your life even possible are unemployed and forced out.

bunch of damn fools.

I think the official vaccine numbers are not based on reality. When you remove 50% of the population from the game things will get real fast. The Govt and the MSM (who are one in the same now)are trying to use it as, see all these people got vaccinated why haven't you. This creates even more distrust. If Biden goes through with stopping air travel as has been reported here and elsewhere for unvaxxed the airlines can be screwed overnight. I just can't see anything positive coming out of this in the near future and I believe in sell hi by low.

Bottom line If you have skin in this market you may want to take a real look at what is happening. It is unprecedented and I have seen the markets tank for much less. If you don't have skin in the market why would you care?