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Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :)

 
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Once the major vent dies off shooting lava, it will indicate magma is being redirected to the left, That will be when the steam explosion occurs. Shock wave will be directed toward the ridge causing a landslide. Can't really judge how significant the landslide will be. Depends on the severity of the explosion.
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The administration in charge of the Volcanic Risk Prevention Plan for the eruption in La Palma, Pevolca, has ordered the confinement of the residents of several villages in the municipalities of El Paso and Los Llanos de Aridane due to worsening air quality as a result of gases emitted by the Cumbre Vieja volcano which affects 3,500 people.

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 Quoting: Dr.Rick


Wow, their best planning is to force people to lockdown in their homes while the entire danger zone fills with deadly, toxic gases, SERIOUSLY???

This is nothing short of a death sentence!

Where are the fucking evacuation orders!
 Quoting: Biowar Nemesis


You are so right.gases are in the air - the air enters the house.
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Exactly, I mean gov agencies are obviously not the smartest groups on the block normally, but this is just plain stupidity and basically murder.
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LA is agreed on then?


Head North and West, maybe to the NW part of the state. Get away from the Mississippi River and the smaller rivers on the Northshore. No one knows how this would affect the Mississippi River, but I have a bad feeling about that.
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The administration in charge of the Volcanic Risk Prevention Plan for the eruption in La Palma, Pevolca, has ordered the confinement of the residents of several villages in the municipalities of El Paso and Los Llanos de Aridane due to worsening air quality as a result of gases emitted by the Cumbre Vieja volcano which affects 3,500 people.

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 Quoting: Dr.Rick


Wow, their best planning is to force people to lockdown in their homes while the entire danger zone fills with deadly, toxic gases, SERIOUSLY???

This is nothing short of a death sentence!

Where are the fucking evacuation orders!
 Quoting: Biowar Nemesis


You are so right.gases are in the air - the air enters the house.
 Quoting: MySoul


I have been saying for days the trade winds have been all that is keeping people alive there.. GET THE F**K off that blasted island.
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It seems even there saving lives is not part of the agenda.
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In the interest of preparedness concerning the cities along the East coast, where would be the best places to go to get to high ground in a timely manner?

New York metro: There's the Pocono Mts (seems a good choice with major hwy to get to it), Catskills(seems too close to coast) and Adirondacks (seems too far to try to get to)

For these areas ???:

Miami/Jacksonville:

Boston

Washington, D.C.

Virginia Beach

Atlanta/Savannah

The Gulf region of FL, AL, LA, TX
 Quoting: I_Object!


In Alabama, considering the coastal areas which lie at a range of around 10-30 feet above sea level and Mobile Bay and delta areas, which are pretty low lying land areas, I’d say if it were possible, try to get to Mt. Cheaha area. It’s about 4-5 hours north of the Gulf Coast area and is around 1200-1500 feet above sea level.
You may not have to drive that far, to get to higher ground, but you’d need to take into consideration all of the rivers in your area and try to get away from those.
GLPers should have a pretty good advanced warning and can feasibly make that trek, in the amount of time it would take for the tsunami to reach the Gulf, if you have your plan in place.
If anyone else from Alabama can chime in and give a closer point to get to than Cheaha, that would be great!
 Quoting: Horking Skeever


I gusss it really depends on how big you think the tsunami would be and what your tolerance for risk is. By even the scariest estimates, Mt. Cheaha should be fine. Personally, I think Dothan, or even Atmore, would be far enough inland. I would be heading for Birmingham, elevation about 650 feet.
 Quoting: Revbo™


Birmingham seems like a good option, however it's a 10+ hour drive from where I live in South Florida. The warning would be the critical element, but that's true for anyone on the east coast or in low lying areas. Thanks for all the updates and analysis, the contributors to this thread are the best!
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Pine Mountain near Columbus Ga is 1395 feet. The area is around 922 feet. Or go up 441 to the Appalachians. Anywhere is a long drive from South Fla.
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DE:


 Quoting: I_Object!



Those in Lower Slower Delaware will have to drive up the peninsula first.
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hidinghf
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DE:


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Those in Lower Slower Delaware will have to drive up the peninsula first.
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funny!

they are proud of the name -

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Just for fun...






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Hahaha!!! That’s funny!!


I have to admit, though, my first thought, was in the gutter…

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My thoughts too, do we have anyone here that has eyes on him to see if he and his family are leaving FL?
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Just for fun...






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Hahaha!!! That’s funny!!


I have to admit, though, my first thought, was in the gutter…

billclinton1


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I’ll behave.
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You didn't!
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Jeeze, took my eyes off the video for 30 minutes and that volcano has changed shape!! Anyone have any footage of it happening? Was there a big badda boom or just a slide?

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NEW LANDSLIDE, LA PALMA WESTERN FLANK


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umm wtf
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We're having shock waves again
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That's bad for me. Too close to home.
Everyone is looking at La Palma but I can't take my mind away from the real "problem"

I made this montage to use in my stream yesterday:

3 day quake list
https://imgur.com/a/l31SFGP


10 day quake list
https://imgur.com/a/vnYtiZG


30 day quake list
https://imgur.com/a/qnjB81q


Original images:
[link to www.ign.es]
[link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)]
[link to www.vortexmag.net (secure)]

And also this because whenever I talk about this there is always someone saying that it's not related.
https://imgur.com/a/OlALm5F

[link to imgur.com (secure)] (image galery)

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oh lord!!!!


Tsalami...

cumbre ah my lord

cumbre ah
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Oh. Well this calls for an everything bagel.
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LA is agreed on then?


Head North and West, maybe to the NW part of the state. Get away from the Mississippi River and the smaller rivers on the Northshore. No one knows how this would affect the Mississippi River, but I have a bad feeling about that.
 Quoting: Horking Skeever

 Quoting: NOLAangel


It won’t be a problem in the Mississippi, too much refraction round the bottom of FL. The wave that take out Miami etc. will lose its energy rather than shoot right over the peninsula.
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What?!?!?!?!?

This needs to be made into its own thread!!!!

Great, disturbing find!!!
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YES

just this year

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one page has a list of tsunami exercises dating back to 2006
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Once the major vent dies off shooting lava, it will indicate magma is being redirected to the left, That will be when the steam explosion occurs. Shock wave will be directed toward the ridge causing a landslide. Can't really judge how significant the landslide will be. Depends on the severity of the explosion.
 Quoting: Doorbert Returns


I adore you. And glad that you are back…

Do not limit your scenario to one. There are many deep quakes along the rift. The slide is already set up.

No explosions needed.

But it’s going to be a big chunk. That much is easy to see if “hearing” was used while listening to the feeds.
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oh lord!!!!


Tsalami...

cumbre ah my lord

cumbre ah
 Quoting: beeches


Oh. Well this calls for an everything bagel.
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Including the slightly used cuCUMBRE from a couple of hundred pages ago?
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In the interest of preparedness concerning the cities along the East coast, where would be the best places to go to get to high ground in a timely manner?

New York metro: There's the Pocono Mts (seems a good choice with major hwy to get to it), Catskills(seems too close to coast) and Adirondacks (seems too far to try to get to)

For these areas ???:

Miami/Jacksonville:

Boston

Washington, D.C.

Virginia Beach

Atlanta/Savannah

The Gulf region of FL, AL, LA, TX
 Quoting: I_Object!


In Alabama, considering the coastal areas which lie at a range of around 10-30 feet above sea level and Mobile Bay and delta areas, which are pretty low lying land areas, I’d say if it were possible, try to get to Mt. Cheaha area. It’s about 4-5 hours north of the Gulf Coast area and is around 1200-1500 feet above sea level.
You may not have to drive that far, to get to higher ground, but you’d need to take into consideration all of the rivers in your area and try to get away from those.
GLPers should have a pretty good advanced warning and can feasibly make that trek, in the amount of time it would take for the tsunami to reach the Gulf, if you have your plan in place.
If anyone else from Alabama can chime in and give a closer point to get to than Cheaha, that would be great!
 Quoting: Horking Skeever


Any suggestions for where folks in New Orleans should plan to evacuate to?

 Quoting: Live well


Head North and West, maybe to the NW part of the state. Get away from the Mississippi River and the smaller rivers on the Northshore. No one knows how this would affect the Mississippi River, but I have a bad feeling about that.
 Quoting: NOLAangel


It is not just the Mississippi River, though. I live just blocks away from Lake Pontchartrain. The lake gets surges from hurricane waters, and would most likely be affected by tsunami waters as well.

Also, evacuating south Louisiana has historically proven to be a very difficult task due to stubborn citizens and slow-moving government officials.
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oh lord!!!!


Tsalami...

cumbre ah my lord

cumbre ah
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Oh. Well this calls for an everything bagel.
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oh lord!!!!


Tsalami...

cumbre ah my lord

cumbre ah
 Quoting: beeches


Oh. Well this calls for an everything bagel.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


Including the slightly used cuCUMBRE from a couple of hundred pages ago?
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oh lord!!!!


Tsalami...

cumbre ah my lord

cumbre ah
 Quoting: beeches


Oh. Well this calls for an everything bagel.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


Including the slightly used cuCUMBRE from a couple of hundred pages ago?
 Quoting: Reality Check


oh dear!
we only have each other. And that makes us rich.. . .

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The new lava peninsula created from this eruption is 27.7 hectares!
That's huge....and growing.

NY prepper said in his video last night that the ocean floor drops to a depth of 13000 feet about a mile out.
Could the landslide be from this peninsula dropping off?

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LA is agreed on then?


Head North and West, maybe to the NW part of the state. Get away from the Mississippi River and the smaller rivers on the Northshore. No one knows how this would affect the Mississippi River, but I have a bad feeling about that.
 Quoting: Horking Skeever

 Quoting: NOLAangel


It won’t be a problem in the Mississippi, too much refraction round the bottom of FL. The wave that take out Miami etc. will lose its energy rather than shoot right over the peninsula.
 Quoting: I_Object!


I hope you’re right, and there will be a loss of energy as it hits the area, but there is a fairly large opening from the peninsula of Florida and Cuba to the Yucatán peninsula. Water will funnel into the bowl of the GOM, and really have no where to go. I read that the Gulf Coast residents could see 30-45 meter tsunami, from worst case scenario. I’ll see if I can find the study, it’s somewhere in this thread. I’d hate to tell people definitively that they won’t be inundated, but I am by no means an expert.
I’m not trying to be a contrarian, I am just trying to figure this out.
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In Alabama, considering the coastal areas which lie at a range of around 10-30 feet above sea level and Mobile Bay and delta areas, which are pretty low lying land areas, I’d say if it were possible, try to get to Mt. Cheaha area. It’s about 4-5 hours north of the Gulf Coast area and is around 1200-1500 feet above sea level.
You may not have to drive that far, to get to higher ground, but you’d need to take into consideration all of the rivers in your area and try to get away from those.
GLPers should have a pretty good advanced warning and can feasibly make that trek, in the amount of time it would take for the tsunami to reach the Gulf, if you have your plan in place.
If anyone else from Alabama can chime in and give a closer point to get to than Cheaha, that would be great!
 Quoting: Horking Skeever


Any suggestions for where folks in New Orleans should plan to evacuate to?

 Quoting: Live well


Head North and West, maybe to the NW part of the state. Get away from the Mississippi River and the smaller rivers on the Northshore. No one knows how this would affect the Mississippi River, but I have a bad feeling about that.
 Quoting: NOLAangel


It is not just the Mississippi River, though. I live just blocks away from Lake Pontchartrain. The lake gets surges from hurricane waters, and would most likely be affected by tsunami waters as well.

Also, evacuating south Louisiana has historically proven to be a very difficult task due to stubborn citizens and slow-moving government officials.
 Quoting: Gemini Rising


Right! I was going to edit my post after, to include the lake but decided that the Mississippi River is doomy enough for now. :hidetomato: The lake would definitely cause problems. Even if the wave was not as high as the East Coast wave that incoming surge would mess us up worst than a hurricane.
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 Quoting: NOLAangel


It won’t be a problem in the Mississippi, too much refraction round the bottom of FL. The wave that take out Miami etc. will lose its energy rather than shoot right over the peninsula.
 Quoting: I_Object!


I hope you’re right, and there will be a loss of energy as it hits the area, but there is a fairly large opening from the peninsula of Florida and Cuba to the Yucatán peninsula. Water will funnel into the bowl of the GOM, and really have no where to go. I read that the Gulf Coast residents could see 30-45 meter tsunami, from worst case scenario. I’ll see if I can find the study, it’s somewhere in this thread. I’d hate to tell people definitively that they won’t be inundated, but I am by no means an expert.
I’m not trying to be a contrarian, I am just trying to figure this out.

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The new lava peninsula created from this eruption is 27.7 hectares!
That's huge....and growing.

NY prepper said in his video last night that the ocean floor drops to a depth of 13000 feet about a mile out.
Could the landslide be from this peninsula dropping off?
 Quoting: Newandimproved


If a land mass of that size were to drop 13000 feet, it would move A LOT of water.
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If you are in FL- and the time comes when you hear that this “theoretical” Event HAS happened:

You need to head speeding NW out of the State in a matter of moments. Put whoever and whatever is important to you in the car and go. That’s my protocol. I can cut across the State to the W. Coast very easily and take backroads heading North once gridlock happens. You COULD take 95-N, but it follows the entire Eastern coastline. What if gridlock occurs before you can exit and head West? That’s why my immediate course of action will be to head West first, in order to put distance between the threat and my family. We don’t know exactly how far inland that wave is going to go…and I just don’t believe it will wash across the entire State. Either way, either choice whether you head North first then West or West first then North…you need to evacuate the State and assess from somewhere that you KNOW will be safe, like Eastern TN or Western NC.

You need to be ready for now panicking aggressive drivers and chaos once it all goes mainstream. 20 million people in this State. Early response and speed of reaction to the Event will save your life. Make sure you are armed, but don’t be paranoid, don’t cause any trouble or start any problems- just stay “switched on” and be on guard. Keep your personal space safe. People turn into animals when they are subject to fear or chaos, oftentimes resorting to violence for any number of reasons. Look to pre-landfall Hurricane behavior for an example…fighting in stores, robberies, thefts, driving recklessly, etc.

This is the one time in my life where I will advocate speeding, but not beyond your capabilities to react suddenly. All eyes in the vehicle need to be either on the Road watching for hazards, clearing lanes for you to pass or using a mobile device to run reconnaissance on traffic ahead as well as plotting course while the GPS still works.

I made a very long post many pages back about evacuation protocol with some recommendations that I have found to improve efficiency, but I can’t find it now. I’d love to retrieve it and save it.

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