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Glaxnor User ID: 80865800 China 09/14/2021 10:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :) Canary Islands Update: Quoting: Economic Prepper Sequence continues South of La Palma, Canary Islands. The last 5 hours since update 16: - 70 below M2.5 - 9 above M2.5 - 1 above M3.0 - 13 backlog - 93 total earthquakes Total now up to 755 quakes so far in this sequence. Actually there have been almost 3,000 quakes over the last 4 days alone. Also, just found this addt'l info and it's not good news; [link to www.volcanodiscovery.com (secure)] La Palma volcano (Canary Islands): likelihood of new volcanic eruption increases The volcanic-seismic crisis continues to evolve. During the past 24 hours, earthquakes have been moving westwards and become shallower, the National Geographic Institute (IGN) reported. This is likely reflecting continued magma intrusion and migration under the surface, supported also by continued deformation of the surface in the same area as the quakes NONE of this is good news folks...sorry Wake up drinking coffee, the thread is 32 pages long. Finish morning stuff/reading at 36. It is closer to 3000 quakes. Some anti-DOOM news is this: Tazacorte is running east west of the volcano, and it is showing activity. So it's more likely the southwest side of the island to break off, not a full split. Morning DOOM'ers glad to see I didn't miss too much. Only fifty+ quakes... Empty Men offer Empty Words and Empty Hearts. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77547432 Canada 09/14/2021 10:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :) People need to keep in mind that with Mount St. Helens it was rumbling for several weeks before one strong quake dislodged the side of the mountain and it blew out sideways. Quoting: Midwest Skeptic Similar historical reports exist for both Krakatoa and Tambora in what is now Indonesia (Tambora believed to be the largest reuption in the last 2000 or so years). Ditto for Mt. Pinatubo in the Phillipeans, which is the largest or second largest eruption since Tambora. In other words do NOT expect a MAJOR event IMMEDIATELY on LaPalma. It needs to fester and build up a "head of steam" so to speak before it will do anything serious. How long? Based on history I would say a minimum of 2 weeks to 3 weeks, if Tambora and Pinatubo are any indication 6 to 8 weeks. =============================================== It would be nice to know if Geologists have determined if the Island of LaPalma IS CRACKED all the way across, like the big island of Hawaii is, ... which would facilitate an entire portion of the island splitting off and falling into the sea. Maybe somebody can chime in with that research. Good info. Like Mt St Helens--something to keep on the radar and have an eye out for possibly into the longer-short term. I'd say look on the main El Hiero thread from some years ago but it is gone. If it collapses you have roughly 8 hours to get off the east coast before the tsunami hits. Anywhere from 300 ft- to 800 feet plus depending on how many millions of tonnage of rock collapses. Do not depend on the tv to tell you! They do not want us to know. I FOUND IT!!! Some of THE BEST INFO on La Palma, El Heirro and Canary volcanoes as well as the Azores Volcanoes! TONS of scientific info. They are All Connected! Thread: Best El Hierro Thread On GLP - Canary Islands - ACTIVITY HAS RETURNED - AGAIN! I knew there was a good one... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77547432 Canada 09/14/2021 10:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :) [link to standeyo.com (secure)] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43185302 Cumbre Vieja Volcano -- Potential collapse and tsunami at La Palma, Canary Islands Steven N. Ward Institute of Geophysics and Planetary Physics, University of California, Santa Cruz California, USA Simon Day Benfield Greig Hazard Research Centre, Department of Geological Sciences, University College, London, UK Stan, a seemingly long forgotten name here abouts. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79028089 United States 09/14/2021 10:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :) Quakes are starting to average in 7-8 km depths .This one is only 6 km deep Quoting: Mister Pillarr [link to www.ign.es] Magnitude 1.9 and near the shoreline .You don't want to see lava mixing with water trust me |
**Watcher** User ID: 78547034 United States 09/14/2021 10:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :) The blue flashing star thingie has moved off of LaPalma and over to Tenerife. [link to www.ign.es] "If you confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved." Romans 10:9 "It will be good for those servants whose master finds them WATCHING when he comes..."Luke 12:37 <"}}}>< (me) ><{{{"> <"}}}>< |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79028089 United States 09/14/2021 10:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :) 10's of millions of people on earth would be wiped out in a matter of some hours. The sad part about it is that the majority of those people are on social media discussing the most mundane and idiotic topics, or watching sports and tv shows in blissful ignorance...smh Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79523846 So if this happens, The Cowboys may finally win the NFC east. |
TXGLP2 User ID: 80129212 United States 09/14/2021 10:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :) If it goes, for those on the coast and inward, fill your bathtubs, fill the car, just in case it's a nothing-burger, but manages to take water & gas out for a few. Move escape tools to the attic for a possible bust out, and don't forget some foodstuffs. Now, though, search for the highest point in your state or inland state for places to camp, just in case. If it goes, make reservations on the spot. Pack car and prepare to leave with gas and water, then bugout bag, clothing, more food, fire, shelter. Move what you can up to the attic. Maybe the building will survive tsunami and flood havoc. Should it lose strength, but still be on the way, move tools to your attic to escape, fill bathtub, expect flooding, start making and freezing extra ice, buy ice now. Last Edited by TXGLP2 on 09/14/2021 10:47 PM |
FeedYourHead User ID: 77416429 United States 09/14/2021 10:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24292567 Correct...in this case it was just a 1.7 Ask Alice when she's 10ft tall This is a battle for the future of civilization. If free speech is lost even in America, tyranny is all that lies ahead. Elon Musk |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79523846 United States 09/14/2021 10:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :) 10's of millions of people on earth would be wiped out in a matter of some hours. The sad part about it is that the majority of those people are on social media discussing the most mundane and idiotic topics, or watching sports and tv shows in blissful ignorance...smh Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79523846 So if this happens, The Cowboys may finally win the NFC east. I live here in NYC....got myself a nice big jug bottle of vodka not too long ago. If and when the shit hits the fan i'll be too hammered to do anything about it when it gets here...congrats on winning the NFC east lol. |
Disenfranchised Godzilla1980 Apex Predator User ID: 79365384 United States 09/14/2021 10:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :) Your basing this on the Ward-Day 2001 model. Later studies showed minimal tidal effect along east coast even in a worse case scenario. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77071969 Link? Please? I found an article that explains in this alternative modeling scenario that a 2 meter (6.5 foot) wave is more likely. [link to blogs.agu.org (secure)] I would much prefer this scenario!! you me both For the ACs..there is NOTHING that you can do to me on this platform..you can throw all the insults you want won’t do a thing because IDGAF If you give me red don’t be a pussy and put your name on it. Have the balls to stand by what you say |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71861255 United States 09/14/2021 10:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :) If it goes, for those on the coast and inward, fill your bathtubs, fill the car, just in case it's a nothing-burger, but manages to take water & gas out for a few. Move escape tools to the attic for a possible bust out, and don't forget some foodstuffs. Quoting: TXGLP2 Now, though, search for the highest point in your state or inland state for places to camp, just in case. If it goes, make reservations on the spot. Pack car and prepare to leave with gas and water, then bugout bag, clothing, more food, fire, shelter. Move what you can up to the attic. Maybe the building will survive tsunami and flood havoc. Should it lose strength, but still be on the way, move tools to your attic to escape, fill bathtub, expect flooding, start making and freezing extra ice, buy ice now. Why would I fill the bathtub if it floods, do I put the tub in the attic? |
LaGata User ID: 42826037 United States 09/14/2021 10:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :) Your basing this on the Ward-Day 2001 model. Later studies showed minimal tidal effect along east coast even in a worse case scenario. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77071969 Link? Please? I found an article that explains in this alternative modeling scenario that a 2 meter (6.5 foot) wave is more likely. [link to blogs.agu.org (secure)] I would much prefer this scenario!! you me both Here's the statement that sums it up for those who need a little doom relief: "A change (reduction) in any of these parameters would yield a much smaller tsunami. For example, subsequent work (Abadie et al. 2012) has taken the ““credible worst case scenario” (derived using slope stability analysis), to have a volume of 80 cubic kilometres (but note the factor of safety of the slope was found to be considerably higher than one, indicating that the slope is not particularly unstable). Modelling of the tsunami generated by such a landslide, using a more refined tsunami simulation, does generate a very significant wave close to La Palma. This wave would be significant as it crossed the continental shelf off the east coast of North America, but would lose a great deal of energy due to frictional effects in this region. Thus, for a 80 cubic kilometre “credible worst case scenario” flank collapse on La Palma, wave heights on the east coast of the USA were found by Tehranirad et al. (2015) to be less than 2 metres along the coastline. This is not the disastrous scenario that the newspapers have so enjoyed featuring." ~~*NOT* a very nice kitty!~~ "Plan for the worst, hope for the best, and don't live in fear." |
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LaGata User ID: 42826037 United States 09/14/2021 10:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :) If it goes, for those on the coast and inward, fill your bathtubs, fill the car, just in case it's a nothing-burger, but manages to take water & gas out for a few. Move escape tools to the attic for a possible bust out, and don't forget some foodstuffs. Quoting: TXGLP2 Now, though, search for the highest point in your state or inland state for places to camp, just in case. If it goes, make reservations on the spot. Pack car and prepare to leave with gas and water, then bugout bag, clothing, more food, fire, shelter. Move what you can up to the attic. Maybe the building will survive tsunami and flood havoc. Should it lose strength, but still be on the way, move tools to your attic to escape, fill bathtub, expect flooding, start making and freezing extra ice, buy ice now. Why would I fill the bathtub if it floods, do I put the tub in the attic? During floods drinking water is often polluted. If you can put the tub in the attic you are a person I want on my survival team, haha. :) ~~*NOT* a very nice kitty!~~ "Plan for the worst, hope for the best, and don't live in fear." |
Glaxnor User ID: 80865800 China 09/14/2021 10:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :) O.K. ,this is slow motion doom ...How long ? Can the quake tards bring closure here ? Quoting: blackdiamond It's moved from an average of 10km underground to an average of 8km underground in just about 24 hours. Unless it speeds up, it could easily be another 4 days. The question is will it find a way to release pressure, like a pre-existing tube, or will it be punching straight through solid rock the whole way. I'm suspicious we may get a new cone north-north-west of the main one. That would take 4 days. Empty Men offer Empty Words and Empty Hearts. |
Disenfranchised Godzilla1980 Apex Predator User ID: 79365384 United States 09/14/2021 10:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :) I found an article that explains in this alternative modeling scenario that a 2 meter (6.5 foot) wave is more likely. [link to blogs.agu.org (secure)] I would much prefer this scenario!! you me both Here's the statement that sums it up for those who need a little doom relief: "A change (reduction) in any of these parameters would yield a much smaller tsunami. For example, subsequent work (Abadie et al. 2012) has taken the ““credible worst case scenario” (derived using slope stability analysis), to have a volume of 80 cubic kilometres (but note the factor of safety of the slope was found to be considerably higher than one, indicating that the slope is not particularly unstable). Modelling of the tsunami generated by such a landslide, using a more refined tsunami simulation, does generate a very significant wave close to La Palma. This wave would be significant as it crossed the continental shelf off the east coast of North America, but would lose a great deal of energy due to frictional effects in this region. Thus, for a 80 cubic kilometre “credible worst case scenario” flank collapse on La Palma, wave heights on the east coast of the USA were found by Tehranirad et al. (2015) to be less than 2 metres along the coastline. This is not the disastrous scenario that the newspapers have so enjoyed featuring." that sounds much better than the worse possible scenario, having said that how many scientists back this is that known? For the ACs..there is NOTHING that you can do to me on this platform..you can throw all the insults you want won’t do a thing because IDGAF If you give me red don’t be a pussy and put your name on it. Have the balls to stand by what you say |
Disenfranchised Godzilla1980 Apex Predator User ID: 79365384 United States 09/14/2021 10:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :) O.K. ,this is slow motion doom ...How long ? Can the quake tards bring closure here ? Quoting: blackdiamond It's moved from an average of 10km underground to an average of 8km underground in just about 24 hours. Unless it speeds up, it could easily be another 4 days. The question is will it find a way to release pressure, like a pre-existing tube, or will it be punching straight through solid rock the whole way. I'm suspicious we may get a new cone north-north-west of the main one. That would take 4 days. we'll know more on that last part once the next analysis of deformation comes out if any For the ACs..there is NOTHING that you can do to me on this platform..you can throw all the insults you want won’t do a thing because IDGAF If you give me red don’t be a pussy and put your name on it. Have the balls to stand by what you say |
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pish Turtle Hermit User ID: 78227579 United States 09/14/2021 10:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :) So how much warning time would we get? Always remember these words: Work hard, study well, and eat and sleep plenty! That is the Turtle Hermit way! We must master the art of peace in addition to the art of war! |
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Glaxnor User ID: 80865800 China 09/14/2021 10:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :) O.K. ,this is slow motion doom ...How long ? Can the quake tards bring closure here ? Quoting: blackdiamond It's moved from an average of 10km underground to an average of 8km underground in just about 24 hours. Unless it speeds up, it could easily be another 4 days. The question is will it find a way to release pressure, like a pre-existing tube, or will it be punching straight through solid rock the whole way. I'm suspicious we may get a new cone north-north-west of the main one. That would take 4 days. we'll know more on that last part once the next analysis of deformation comes out if any Part of me is super jealous that they are on the ground for something like this, I would love to be able to see this first hand. A much more significant part of me is glad i am no where near this. Empty Men offer Empty Words and Empty Hearts. |
Disenfranchised Godzilla1980 Apex Predator User ID: 79365384 United States 09/14/2021 10:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :) I don't think anyone can answer that with any real certainty, could be hours, days, weeks, months or even years there are so many factors involved and I don't think we are there yet on the science to make anything remotely accurate as far as predicting, everyone is just going off of historical evidence and even then it's a crapshoot For the ACs..there is NOTHING that you can do to me on this platform..you can throw all the insults you want won’t do a thing because IDGAF If you give me red don’t be a pussy and put your name on it. Have the balls to stand by what you say |
Disenfranchised Godzilla1980 Apex Predator User ID: 79365384 United States 09/14/2021 10:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :) O.K. ,this is slow motion doom ...How long ? Can the quake tards bring closure here ? Quoting: blackdiamond It's moved from an average of 10km underground to an average of 8km underground in just about 24 hours. Unless it speeds up, it could easily be another 4 days. The question is will it find a way to release pressure, like a pre-existing tube, or will it be punching straight through solid rock the whole way. I'm suspicious we may get a new cone north-north-west of the main one. That would take 4 days. we'll know more on that last part once the next analysis of deformation comes out if any Part of me is super jealous that they are on the ground for something like this, I would love to be able to see this first hand. A much more significant part of me is glad i am no where near this. you me both the science fascinates me, but mother nature isn't to be trifled with For the ACs..there is NOTHING that you can do to me on this platform..you can throw all the insults you want won’t do a thing because IDGAF If you give me red don’t be a pussy and put your name on it. Have the balls to stand by what you say |
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Anony-Mom User ID: 43185302 United States 09/14/2021 11:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :) GREAT Information here- "Quote" But for U. S. mid-Atlantic communities there is the possibility for surprise tsunamis that may be generated locally and without warning. As presented at the beginning of this article, sediments along the outer continental margin are so soggy and gas charged that they can slump spontaneously. Marine geologists identified fresh slump scars last year off New Jersey, and Driscoll, and others, recently found a 25-mile-long system of cracks along the shelf edge off southern Virginia. These cracks lie just north of the approximately 16,000-year-old (Albemarle) submarine landslide." [link to www.huttoncommentaries.com (secure)] |
pish Turtle Hermit User ID: 78227579 United States 09/14/2021 11:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :) I don't think anyone can answer that with any real certainty, could be hours, days, weeks, months or even years there are so many factors involved and I don't think we are there yet on the science to make anything remotely accurate as far as predicting, everyone is just going off of historical evidence and even then it's a crapshoot Sorry, not for the eruption. Assuming it happens, how long does it take the wave to travel to the east coast? Always remember these words: Work hard, study well, and eat and sleep plenty! That is the Turtle Hermit way! We must master the art of peace in addition to the art of war! |
Disenfranchised Godzilla1980 Apex Predator User ID: 79365384 United States 09/14/2021 11:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :) I don't think anyone can answer that with any real certainty, could be hours, days, weeks, months or even years there are so many factors involved and I don't think we are there yet on the science to make anything remotely accurate as far as predicting, everyone is just going off of historical evidence and even then it's a crapshoot Sorry, not for the eruption. Assuming it happens, how long does it take the wave to travel to the east coast? between 7-9 hours are the estimates For the ACs..there is NOTHING that you can do to me on this platform..you can throw all the insults you want won’t do a thing because IDGAF If you give me red don’t be a pussy and put your name on it. Have the balls to stand by what you say |