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Galaxee User ID: 80149794 United States 10/07/2021 11:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :) 2:25am local time (on the bottom left clock). Quoting: Uncle Mikeys Uncle Was trying to say it was going. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Made a video. might have to click link for it to play. https://imgur.com/2MhfefO [link to imgur.com (secure)] Brilliant! Thank you so much! Thank you Tangy, you rock! Galaxee “Success is to be measured not so much by the position that one has reached in life as by the obstacles which he has overcome.” Booker T Washington |
_Seraphim_ User ID: 80397080 United States 10/07/2021 11:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :) Dutch says no tsunami threat from this eruption. Does he say that to stay on YouTube or he really truly believes it? Quoting: krayzie He is compromised or misguided, if that’s true. NO ONE can truly tell us with any certainty that we’re not going to experience a serious problem from this crisis. Very irresponsible thing to say. And I make these statements as a long time fan/follower of Dutch. (edit to add last sentence.) — Last Edited by supergeek on 10/07/2021 11:08 PM Pray For Ohio |
OGEBY User ID: 80893539 United States 10/07/2021 11:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :) When pyroclastic material(Magma) is exploded out of a vent that is what it's called. They include magma but also solid pieces of lava. We are seeing rapid and repeated explosions as we speak or in other words, pyroclastic flows.... Thank you for the explanation, but how do YOU, know that is this occurring? Use Tangy's clip for reference. The scale is massive btw, and I can visibly see it running down the cone. Made a video. might have to click link for it to play. Quoting: Tangy https://imgur.com/2MhfefO [link to imgur.com (secure)] Not a video-tard, but I wouldn't be surprised if that stuff is moving at thirty or forty miles an hour. With bursts that are much faster. If Adam Savage was here, I think he could give an accurate number. FAST. Is all I can say. Agreed, that lava was moving!!! |
Uncle Mikeys Uncle User ID: 80640265 United Kingdom 10/07/2021 11:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :) Dutch says no tsunami threat from this eruption. Does he say that to stay on YouTube or he really truly believes it? Quoting: krayzie He is compromised or misguided, if that’s true. NO ONE can truly tell us with any certainty that we’re not going to experience a serious problem from this crisis. Very irresponsible thing to say. And I make these statements as a long time fan/follower of Dutch. (edit to add last sentence.) — Yep, and also he is not an expert on volcanoes anyway, he's said as much recently. "There are great and unsearchable things we do not know... nor may we ever." - Uncle Mikey's Uncle "The mind is not created by the brain." - Dr. Eben Alexander - Neurosurgeon. |
OGEBY User ID: 80893539 United States 10/07/2021 11:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :) Dutch says no tsunami threat from this eruption. Does he say that to stay on YouTube or he really truly believes it? Quoting: krayzie He is compromised or misguided, if that’s true. NO ONE can truly tell us with any certainty that we’re not going to experience a serious problem from this crisis. Very irresponsible thing to say. And I make these statements as a long time fan/follower of Dutch. (edit to add last sentence.) — I don't know if that person is actually quoting Dutch, misquoting him, or poorly paraphrasing Dutch. |
_Seraphim_ User ID: 80404391 United States 10/07/2021 11:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :) Dutch says no tsunami threat from this eruption. Does he say that to stay on YouTube or he really truly believes it? Quoting: krayzie He is compromised or misguided, if that’s true. NO ONE can truly tell us with any certainty that we’re not going to experience a serious problem from this crisis. Very irresponsible thing to say. And I make these statements as a long time fan/follower of Dutch. (edit to add last sentence.) — Yep, and also he is not an expert on volcanoes anyway, he's said as much recently. Sounds like him, I can appreciate his humility in stating that. Pray For Ohio |
El Perfilador User ID: 80846152 United States 10/07/2021 11:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :) If this intensity continues from that middle vent and the one above it which is mostly out of view because of the action from the one below, it seems almost inevitable more crumbling and tumbling will occur. Quoting: Uncle Mikeys Uncle Whether enough landslide to generate a mega-tsunami or even a plain ole tsunami is another matter. We could be monitoring this one for the long haul, as she doesn't look like she's letting up anytime soon to me. Middle vent looks absolutely spectacular now, like two halves of a coconut shell. Numbers to compare? |
Bastetcat User ID: 76585521 United States 10/07/2021 11:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :) Been watching the Observatory, as it is the only thing to see to get a gage on how big those explosives sounds we are hear are. Quoting: WhiteAngel [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Could we get a summary please? I can't watch all of this it's over an hour and I really would like to know what he has to say... TIA Trying to summarize any of DUTCHSINSE videos is IMPOSSIBLE!!! Am I wrong? He does jump around and he says so much It really is hard to summarize. But I will try. He spent the majority of the video talking about the North American Pacific coast EQ zones and how the energy comes across the Pacific to Alaska, then goes south down into california. He showed a map of the US EQs and how it relates to the craton, in the center of the country (very stable area). He talks about standing waves and then gets to La Palma at approximatelythe 1 hour 10 minute mark. Then he talks about having an emergency kit ready. Thank you! Life finds a way. |
Uncle Mikeys Uncle User ID: 80640265 United Kingdom 10/07/2021 11:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :) If this intensity continues from that middle vent and the one above it which is mostly out of view because of the action from the one below, it seems almost inevitable more crumbling and tumbling will occur. Quoting: Uncle Mikeys Uncle Whether enough landslide to generate a mega-tsunami or even a plain ole tsunami is another matter. We could be monitoring this one for the long haul, as she doesn't look like she's letting up anytime soon to me. Middle vent looks absolutely spectacular now, like two halves of a coconut shell. Numbers to compare? Numbers of what to compare what? "There are great and unsearchable things we do not know... nor may we ever." - Uncle Mikey's Uncle "The mind is not created by the brain." - Dr. Eben Alexander - Neurosurgeon. |
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Craft User ID: 75801282 United States 10/07/2021 11:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :) Dutch says no tsunami threat from this eruption. Does he say that to stay on YouTube or he really truly believes it? Quoting: krayzie He is compromised or misguided, if that’s true. NO ONE can truly tell us with any certainty that we’re not going to experience a serious problem from this crisis. Very irresponsible thing to say. And I make these statements as a long time fan/follower of Dutch. (edit to add last sentence.) — Craftdragon screw a coffee buy me a beer or a membership $chank3567 cheers! If this goes against any GLP rules I will gladly remove my personal signature. <3 8) twit @craft8431 |
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_Seraphim_ User ID: 80520808 United States 10/07/2021 11:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :) Dutch says no tsunami threat from this eruption. Does he say that to stay on YouTube or he really truly believes it? Quoting: krayzie He is compromised or misguided, if that’s true. NO ONE can truly tell us with any certainty that we’re not going to experience a serious problem from this crisis. Very irresponsible thing to say. And I make these statements as a long time fan/follower of Dutch. (edit to add last sentence.) — I don't know if that person is actually quoting Dutch, misquoting him, or poorly paraphrasing Dutch. Haven’t had time to watch his latest… If he did, he is being instructed to say it or lose his platforms. Maybe he will try to “say it without saying it” if that much is true. It fits with our assessment that there will be no warning- and with it, our second assessment that “they” will go to any and all necessary lengths to ensure that no warnings make it out to the masses. This isn’t our first rodeo. They really want their population reduction. And we can’t overlook how convenient it would be to permanently reduce the number of Conservative Voters presently living in Coastal Predominantly Conservative States that would be most affected. Also: God Bless, Brother- I hope all is well — Last Edited by supergeek on 10/07/2021 11:23 PM Pray For Ohio |
Scorched User ID: 80365094 United States 10/07/2021 11:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :) ... Quoting: Tangy Made a video. might have to click link for it to play. [link to imgur.com (secure)] [link to imgur.com (secure)] Pyroclastic flow going on. 85,000 people on a bomb. A thermal imager would be good to catch the pyroclastic flows from within the ash clouds. Who can make the trip? I bet the USGS/Spanish Geologic has the instruments up and running.. I have very expensive thermal scope, but I am not about to go hang out on a ticking time bomb... Common, go find Bushcraft bear. Be epic. They have us completely surrounded...those poor bastards |
Scorched User ID: 80365094 United States 10/07/2021 11:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :) Dutch says no tsunami threat from this eruption. Does he say that to stay on YouTube or he really truly believes it? Quoting: krayzie He is compromised or misguided, if that’s true. NO ONE can truly tell us with any certainty that we’re not going to experience a serious problem from this crisis. Very irresponsible thing to say. And I make these statements as a long time fan/follower of Dutch. (edit to add last sentence.) — Agree. What about a nuke? What about CERN? There are other threats than natural progress. They have us completely surrounded...those poor bastards |
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GuitarGuy User ID: 80952519 United States 10/07/2021 11:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :) That is for sure... I was in Hawaii during an eruption and walked directly up to lava flows and that's incredible and dangerous... Otoh as long as it's venting upwards and outwords with lots of vents appearing I don't see the island shattering in any way..... If it was blocked it would be more at risk for a cataclysm but who knows |
OGEBY User ID: 80893539 United States 10/07/2021 11:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :) A thermal imager would be good to catch the pyroclastic flows from within the ash clouds. Who can make the trip? I bet the USGS/Spanish Geologic has the instruments up and running.. I have very expensive thermal scope, but I am not about to go hang out on a ticking time bomb... Common, go find Bushcraft bear. Be epic. LOL... |
_Seraphim_ User ID: 80398684 United States 10/07/2021 11:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :) Dutch says no tsunami threat from this eruption. Does he say that to stay on YouTube or he really truly believes it? Quoting: krayzie He is compromised or misguided, if that’s true. NO ONE can truly tell us with any certainty that we’re not going to experience a serious problem from this crisis. Very irresponsible thing to say. And I make these statements as a long time fan/follower of Dutch. (edit to add last sentence.) — Agree. What about a nuke? What about CERN? There are other threats than natural progress. Very astute observation…and agree, 100%. We think we understand this situation and we imagine it as being very simple. But the truth is, we really don’t know how complex or strange the threat may actually be. “Trust gets you killed.” Pray For Ohio |
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WhiteAngel also known at WA User ID: 80425530 United States 10/07/2021 11:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :) Isaiah 5:20 KJV Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! Thread: Being Prepared - Updated Basic Food List On Page One |
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El Perfilador User ID: 80846152 United States 10/07/2021 11:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :) If this intensity continues from that middle vent and the one above it which is mostly out of view because of the action from the one below, it seems almost inevitable more crumbling and tumbling will occur. Quoting: Uncle Mikeys Uncle Whether enough landslide to generate a mega-tsunami or even a plain ole tsunami is another matter. We could be monitoring this one for the long haul, as she doesn't look like she's letting up anytime soon to me. Middle vent looks absolutely spectacular now, like two halves of a coconut shell. Numbers to compare? Numbers of what to compare what? Data points, not visual observations. |
Wedge Plissken User ID: 11376882 United States 10/07/2021 11:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :) Dutch says no tsunami threat from this eruption. Does he say that to stay on YouTube or he really truly believes it? Quoting: krayzie He is compromised or misguided, if that’s true. NO ONE can truly tell us with any certainty that we’re not going to experience a serious problem from this crisis. Very irresponsible thing to say. And I make these statements as a long time fan/follower of Dutch. (edit to add last sentence.) — Exactly. At this point in the eruption, the landslide does seem unlikely. However, that may change. We must see some massive inflation of Cumbre Vieja, coupled with larger EQs and more vents/fissures opening that are roughly the same strength as the current. Last I read, deflation was occurring. Of course, that may change. Pray for the best-Prepare for the worst. IF it stays like this, the worst has a less than 1% chance of happening-in my opinion. Less than 1% chance. Now remember...when things look bad, and it looks like you're not gonna make it..then you gotta get mean. I mean plumb-maddog mean. 'Cause if you lose your head, and you give up..then you neither live nor win. That's just the way it is. -Josey Wales, Gone To Texas |
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Midwest Skeptic User ID: 80570749 United States 10/07/2021 11:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :) Quite a show tonight. The GOOD news, I think, is that the inflation numbers are holding steady ie: NOT increasing. For now the eruption is emptying out the magma as fast as it is coming up from below after initially inflating that part of the island very quickly by about 24-28 cm. Of course if MORE magma starts coming up than is being emptied the inflation will resume, much like happened with Mt. St. Helens. Like many I am watching the EQ depth quite closely ... and if it starts getting up to the 5km or LESS range THAT is when I think the risk of a partial slide of the island becomes more real. It is NOT there YET. As I have previously noted I also think that that entire ridge area needs to be HEATED UP so as to add the dynamic of super heated water pressurizing the rocks and pushing them away from each other (ie: helping to break the bonds holding that part of the island to the rest). In my layman analysis that is part of the reason for the Mt. St. Helen's slide, the bond holding that side of the mountain to the rest of the mountain had been considerably weakened by super heated water inside the mountain pushing the entire mountain OUT so it blew out sideways versus UP. In regards to HEAING UP the critical rock area ... that TAKES TIME!! There are at least hundreds of cubic kilometers of rock that has to be brought up to temperature (or more), so to speak, which is why I am still holding to my personal analysis that the island will NOT even start to be prepped for a slide until we reach November. The rock bonds holding it together will NOT be weakened enough until then (remember it took Mt. St. Helens TWO months to reach that dynamic of a weakened mountain, Tambora took 6 to 12 weeks, ditto with Krakatoa - only Mt. Pinatubo went into a full scale eruption very quickly, but it blew UP not OUT). Thanks to everyone for all their work on this thread!! Like everyone else here I am mesmerized by what is happening . Last Edited by Midwest Skeptic on 10/07/2021 11:47 PM Midwest Skeptic |
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Craft User ID: 75801282 United States 10/07/2021 11:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :) Quite a show tonight. Quoting: Midwest Skeptic The GOOD news, I think, is that the inflation numbers are holding steady ie: NOT increasing. For now the eruption is emptying out the magma as fast as it is coming up from below after initially inflating that part of the island very quickly by about 24-28 cm. Of course if MORE magma starts coming up than is being emptied the inflation will resume, much like happened with Mt. St. Helens. Like many I am watching the EQ depth quite closely ... and if it starts getting up to the 5km or LESS range THAT is when I think the risk of a partial slide of the island becomes more real. It is NOT there YET. As I have previously noted I also think that that entire ridge area needs to be HEATED UP so as to add the dynamic of super heated water pressurizing the rocks and pushing them away from each other (ie: helping to break the bonds holding that part of the island from the rest). In my layman analysis that is part of the reason for the Mt. St. Helen's slide, the bond holding that side of the mountain to the rest of the mountain had been considerably weakened by super heated water inside the mountain pushing the entire mountain OUT so it blew out sideways versus UP. In regards to HEAING UP the critical rock area ... that TAKES TIME!! There are at least hundreds of cubic kilometers of rock that has to be brought up to temperature (or more), so to speak, which is why I am still holding to my personal analysis that the island will NOT even start to be prepped for a slide until we reach November. The rock bonds holding it together will NOT be weakened enough until then (remember it took Mt. St. Helens TWO months to reach that dynamic of a weakened mountain, Tambora took 6 to 12 weeks, ditto with Krakatoa - only Mt. Pinatubo went into a full scale eruption very quickly, but it blew UP not OUT). Thanks to everyone for all their work on this thread!! Like everyone else here I am mesmerized by what is happening . Ty!! Stay safe my fren Craftdragon screw a coffee buy me a beer or a membership $chank3567 cheers! If this goes against any GLP rules I will gladly remove my personal signature. <3 8) twit @craft8431 |