Why is the rapture so hated and makes so many angry? Almost like demonic forces want it suppressed. Why hatred?

I agree with a good portion of what you are saying, in particular, about the arguing over shit part….but I was addressing what Servant-Of -The LORD was specifically saying….

Proverbs 14:12 - There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.

Death is easy man.

We all die.

How many live?

And under what circumstances?

I have not much, dont need more, dont need wealth or acclaim, just me, a nobody, one of billions.

But I believe.

So, not knowing the truth, belief is more important.

Well you have pretty much admitted that the truth in the Bible means nothing to you. Yet at the same time we are expected to believe that the Rapture is not going to happen because you twist words around. Pro 14:12 There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.

I dont really care what you believe.

You've said here publicly that you are attracted to little girls.

So have fun with that shit.

And you think you'll be "raptured" away from all harm.

Lol.

Whatever.

Well dispite yourself you did manage to rase one interesting point. To which the answer is that I cannot see into my own future. I just hope that the Lord will see me through day by day.

So you are in the same boat as the rest of us.

Nobody knows what God has planned.

To assume it does you a disservice.

Because it is bullshit. Saul... Never met Jesus. Was not of the 12. Trust words from judas before him.

Thread: To Understand Paul - His Letters Don't Tell Us All of What He Originally Preached - Bible Study

Nothing but love here!
I do think many may be making some bad choices thou.
I think they/we all will be put through some very bad challenges and test most will fail due to lack of preparation for the days of sorrows to come.

Those who have failed to prepare are planning to fail!

What are your preparations for The Tribulation and The Wrath of God?

What Apocalypse test might you fail?

GET RIGHT WITH THE LORD NOW - while you are still blessed with a little time.

Sitting on the fence over the question of the salvation

of your soul has always been a very dangerous choice to make. Non of us can even guarantee our next breath, yet we blithely assume that we will have years or even decades to make up our minds, in the meantime enjoying our sinful ways. I had a dream a few years ago where a person I knew was skating along the ice with dark storm clouds in the background, carrying on with their life, when all of a sudden the section of ice that they where on gave way, there was an anguished cry for help, and then they where gone.

While it is true that the Lord is patent and long suffering towards us. We have also been warned that the Lord will come suddenly as a thief in the night and snatch away those who are His. Leaving the fence sitters to face the hell on earth that is coming, with perhaps a small chance of obtaining salvation as one of the Tribulation Saints.

This is the season of the Rapture and it could happen in a few moments or in a few months. Use the brain that the Lord gave you and look around the world and see it as it truly is. There are no particular events that have to happen before the Rapture takes place. Either you are ready or you are not.

You have still been blessed with a little time, turn to the Lord now with all your heart and He will be quick to hear you. But don't take all day about it, you could be hit by a bus tomorrow and then where would you be.

And remember read the bible as it is written, do not listen to liars who would add or take away from the words of the Lord.

KJV 1 Thess. 4 13But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
14For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
15For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
18Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

Luke 21 12-19 kjv

12 But before all these, they shall lay their hands on you, and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues, and into prisons, being brought before kings and rulers for my name's sake.

13 And it shall turn to you for a testimony.

14 Settle it therefore in your hearts, not to meditate before what ye shall answer:

15 For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.

16 And ye shall be betrayed both by parents, and brethren, and kinsfolks, and friends; and some of you shall they cause to be put to death.

17 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake.

18 But there shall not an hair of your head perish.

19 In your patience possess ye your souls.

No pre-trib rapture.

Compare what Paul and Jesus said.

See how these verses are ALL the same event. They compare what Paul said to what Jesus said.

1. Notice that Verses 16 & 17 are pretty much EXACTLY what Jesus says in the Gospel descriptions.


1 Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

1 Thessalonians 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

Matthew 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all nopes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

Matthew 26:64 Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.

Mark 13:26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.

Mark 14:62 And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.

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2. Then notice how well Paul's verses 15 & 17 match....


1 Thessalonians 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

1 Thessalonians 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

Matthew 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

Mark 13:13 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

Revelation 2:26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:

But they think they wont be here?

Lol.

Rapture = coming in the clouds
2nd Coming = touches down on the Mt. of Olives
Rapture = time unknowable
2nd Coming = defined time after certain events
Rapture = Comes for Church
2nd Coming = Comes to save Israel

I actually listen to luke more than any other.

He was a writer and historian.

His gospel may be the most thought out.

All of them were thought out. They were all written by the Holy Spirit.

Most sensible people who spend time studying can recognize the false rapture doctrine.... because it's not found in scripture, only in Hollywood

Luke always seemed more thoughtful to me.

Bump.

Sorry mate but that isnt right. After the 1000 years is the only time Christ will touch this planet.

But sadly this error comes from the false teaching that the millennial reign is on earth. Even sadder is so few are open to correction on the issue.

Christs was sent by His Father to redeem us back to the Father. The Father sits in heaven. In the city of New Jerusalem. Same place Jesus said He is preparing a place for us. (many mansions)

New Jerusalem does not come to the earth until the 1000 years have expired. Meaning the Father does not come to this earth until the 1000 have expired.

Meaning if the 1000 years are on earth, then we are separated for those 1000 years from the city of God and from the Father himself.

The proper biblical understanding is when Christ returns, we meet Him in the air and he takes us to His Father where He has prepared a place for us. Satan is bound on this dead earth for 1000 years with no one to tempt or deceive as all the wicked are dead.

After the 1000 years, the city of God descends to the earth (with the saints in it). The wicked are raised and destroyed along with satan and his angles. Christ makes the earth new and the city of God settles on the earth as its permanent eternal home.

Zechariah 14:4 predicts, “On that day his feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, east of Jerusalem, and the Mount of Olives will be split in two from east to west, forming a great valley, with half of the Mount moving north and half moving south.” “That day” is a reference to the Day of the Lord, and the One who stands on the mountain is the Lord Himself. So, yes, this passage predicts the second coming of Christ.

Rev 11:12 And the witnesses heard a loud voice from heaven saying, “Come up here.” And they went up to heaven in a cloud as their enemies watched them.

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The day when sin is put down. Not the second coming. Christ does not touch the planet when He returns for His church.

Does not Christ sit on His Fathers throne? If the fathers throne (inside New Jerusalem) does not descend until the 1000 years have expired, how then will Christ sit on it for 1000 years on earth?

Did not Christ promise to prepare a place for us in New Jerusalem? How then are we separated from that place He has prepared for 1000 years?

Live up to your username and study this issue.

This brief study is a good outline of it. Give it a read berean.
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NONSENSE.
Your "talking points" don't have scriptural backing.

Both Jesus and Paul say Believers will experience Tribulation.

NO scripture says Jesus comes twice.

No scripture says "the Church" is whisked away.

Jesus rules "with an iron rod" during His Millenial Reign.

That's NOT in Heaven.

And a 7 head 10 horn monster appears!

Difference between symbolism and literal.

Yawn...Tired of correcting you "christians" here blasphemous trinity doctrine. Your sunday keeping. Your unclean food gluttony. Your ridiculous 7 year trib, 3 1/2 year peace deal, end time temple and every other kenneth copeland/tim lahaye satanic jesuit rubbish you all preach and regurgitate back and forth amongst yourselves.

So stiffnecked cant even drink milk.

*btw, iron = strength. Hes not going to walk around with a literal rod of iron. smh

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I'll stick with what the Bible says, not what you say it says.

KJV 1 Thess. 4 13But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
14For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
15For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
18Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

Religion started long before the book of lies ... I mean the Bible.

Wise up. The church made everything sacred evil and visa versa.

Gospel of Philip

"Names given to the worldly are very deceptive, for they divert our thoughts from what is correct to what is incorrect. Thus one who hears the word "God" does not perceive what is correct, but perceives what is incorrect. So also with "the Father" and "the Son" and "the Holy Spirit" and "life" and "light" and "resurrection" and "the Church (Ekklesia)" and all the rest - people do not perceive what is correct but they perceive what is incorrect, unless they have come to know what is correct. The names which are heard are in the world are to deceive.

God is a man-eater. For this reason, men are sacrificed to him."


You are arguing over propaganda. Our alien masters want to drink your blood.

But you keep praying and trying to hook up with them.


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