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You can't sue the vaccine manufacturers but what about your employer

 
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You can't sue the vaccine manufacturers but what about your employer
Per my understanding of the Emergency Use Authorization, it gave blanket immunity (no pun intended because it is just not funny) to the vaccine manufacturers. So even if the vaccine was proven not to work - did not render recipients immune to the virus - OR, worse, actual made the recipients ill, susceptible to other illnesses, or dead, the manufacturers were still IMMUNE from prosecution.

BUT how about employers who coerced their employees to receive this ineffective and largely unknown, untested vaccine? As evidence mounts of both its ineffectiveness AND dangerous side effects up to and including death, is there a legal avenue to pursue your employer if you got the vaccine in order to keep your job?

Hmmm... surely there are some unvaccinated ambulance chasers and class action lawyers looking for a payday... And as for the employer could they lay this risk off on their workers' comp insurance?
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Re: You can't sue the vaccine manufacturers but what about your employer
Someone needs to hold the US Department of Labor accountible by filing notices of liability due to coercion and blackmail to take an experimental medical procedure against all manner of world and Federal guidelines against such a mandate.

Mandates are not LAW, there is no legal standing outside of ?Constitution in the right venue and jurisdiction.
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09/20/2021 05:28 PM
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Re: You can't sue the vaccine manufacturers but what about your employer
Not quite on-point BUT the GMU did relent when Professor Zywicki filed suit against them (his employer):


George Mason University’s policy states that they will require vaccines for all students, faculty and staff and require all to share verification of their vaccination status to work, study and live on campus.

All faculty members are supposed to upload their proof of vaccination to the university system by Oct.1, “Or have an approved medical or religious exemption." Students had the same requirement, with an Aug. 1 deadline.

Zywicki said he feels the policy is the school's way of trying to coerce him to undergo "an unnecessary and potentially risky medical procedure for no good reason."



Much less than 50%

The important word is coerced because few if any employers are MANDATING vaccines but the result is the same - coercion - do this or suffer these consequences up to and including losing your job...
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09/20/2021 05:31 PM

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Re: You can't sue the vaccine manufacturers but what about your employer
This would have to do with worker's compensation insurance. The last I read, Worker's Comp had decided not to decide if they would cover these claims until next year. Maybe they have updated their status on this. But it would be worker's compensation insurance. I'm not sure about the Liability insurance that most employers care.
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Re: You can't sue the vaccine manufacturers but what about your employer
Per my understanding of the Emergency Use Authorization, it gave blanket immunity (no pun intended because it is just not funny) to the vaccine manufacturers. So even if the vaccine was proven not to work - did not render recipients immune to the virus - OR, worse, actual made the recipients ill, susceptible to other illnesses, or dead, the manufacturers were still IMMUNE from prosecution.

BUT how about employers who coerced their employees to receive this ineffective and largely unknown, untested vaccine? As evidence mounts of both its ineffectiveness AND dangerous side effects up to and including death, is there a legal avenue to pursue your employer if you got the vaccine in order to keep your job?

Hmmm... surely there are some unvaccinated ambulance chasers and class action lawyers looking for a payday... And as for the employer could they lay this risk off on their workers' comp insurance?
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Not your employer either because OSHA and DOJ made this all "legal"/granted employers exemption from being sued over any of this.
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Re: You can't sue the vaccine manufacturers but what about your employer
Someone needs to hold the US Department of Labor accountible by filing notices of liability due to coercion and blackmail to take an experimental medical procedure against all manner of world and Federal guidelines against such a mandate.

Mandates are not LAW, there is no legal standing outside of ?Constitution in the right venue and jurisdiction.
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Thanks Meridian that is a great point - maybe include OSHA in addition to the DOL...
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Re: You can't sue the vaccine manufacturers but what about your employer
Per my understanding of the Emergency Use Authorization, it gave blanket immunity (no pun intended because it is just not funny) to the vaccine manufacturers. So even if the vaccine was proven not to work - did not render recipients immune to the virus - OR, worse, actual made the recipients ill, susceptible to other illnesses, or dead, the manufacturers were still IMMUNE from prosecution.

BUT how about employers who coerced their employees to receive this ineffective and largely unknown, untested vaccine? As evidence mounts of both its ineffectiveness AND dangerous side effects up to and including death, is there a legal avenue to pursue your employer if you got the vaccine in order to keep your job?

Hmmm... surely there are some unvaccinated ambulance chasers and class action lawyers looking for a payday... And as for the employer could they lay this risk off on their workers' comp insurance?
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Not your employer either because OSHA and DOJ made this all "legal"/granted employers exemption from being sued over any of this.
 Quoting: roguetechie81


Then it becomes a constitutional question (4th amendment? The right of the people to be secure in their persons) but you have to LOSE in the lower courts before moving up the ladder...
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Re: You can't sue the vaccine manufacturers but what about your employer
Okay - not much engagement on this - I will finish with the following: Potential employer liability in the face of a failed or dangerous vaccine may make them at least apply the brakes on "mandates"/coercion THOUGH for many employees that ship may have already sailed...
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09/20/2021 06:20 PM
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Re: You can't sue the vaccine manufacturers but what about your employer
Good point OP.

The higher echelons have a degree of protection. But the nurses, local councils and employers implementing the pedo-plan on the front-lines are most likely gonna get sued beyond oblivion when this collapses.

They have hardly any protection. they're simply counting on people being meek and spineless.
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09/20/2021 08:09 PM
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Re: You can't sue the vaccine manufacturers but what about your employer
The Emergency Use Authorization and the federal PREP Act give vaccine manufacturers, distributors, nurses, doctors, hospitals, the whole medical chain immunity.

OSHA has said that an employer who mandates a vaccine as a condition of work, and an employee is harmed by it, that that is an OSHA reportable work place injury (thought OSHA Is not enforcing the reporting requirement til next year, because they don't want it to "discourage" vaccination.

So, my argument would be the fact that it is a reportable OSHA "work place injury" makes it a covered injury for workers' comp purposes.

You KNOW the comp coverage insurance companies will do what all insurers do: "Delay, Deny, Don't Pay" but some industrious attorney will challenge that, and we will see what happens.

Nothing is black and white in the law. Someone has to try and test the situation, it might work here, not work there, but a body of law starts to emerge, and then we know. Don't take that "no one is liable" line at face value.
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Re: You can't sue the vaccine manufacturers but what about your employer
fair game..

infact in Aus they literally made it so.





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