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Happy in Nature (OP) User ID: 80796606 Nicaragua 09/20/2021 10:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Biden administration will require all international travelers coming into the United States to be fully vaccinated and tested for Covid-19 under a new system that will open up air travel to vaccinated foreign nationals from dozens of countries for the first time since the early days of the pandemic. Starting in early November, foreign nationals will be allowed to fly into the U.S. if they are fully vaccinated and able to show proof of vaccination prior to boarding a U.S.-bound flight, White House Covid coordinator Jeffrey Zients said. [link to www.nbcnews.com (secure)] The current policy requires a negative covid test, so why the push for the vaxx? How do they know the difference between antibodies and the vaxx? Wouldn't the vaxx make them test positive? And if they have a vaxx, why do they need a negative test if the vaxx works? |
Happy in Nature (OP) User ID: 80796606 Nicaragua 09/20/2021 10:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | While there is still no vaccination requirement for domestic air travel, Zients said nothing is off the table. "We clearly have a track record that shows we're pulling available levers to acquire vaccinations and we're not taking any measures off the table on specific authorities used for implementation," he said. Zients didn't detail what vaccines will qualify and what would constitute as fully vaccinated and said the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention would provide further details. The new policy applies only to air travel and not land border crossings, which have been closed to nonessential travel between Canada and Mexico. [link to www.nbcnews.com (secure)] |
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Reebl User ID: 78187331 United States 09/20/2021 11:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow, what a great revelation...Walking cures Covidity. Flying spreads Covidity, walking does not...Makes sense to me??? Is there any data on the pros and cons of driving or perhaps riding a bike as related to the spread of this deadly imagination. Seems like that the preliminary data is showing, the faster you travel the greater the risk of Covidity...I say, "Slow the HLF down". Last Edited by Reebl on 09/20/2021 11:35 PM There is no fortune to be gained by a cure, there is however a great deal of profit to be made from treatments. ~Mark Twain If you want to live forever, live a life worth remembering. ~Bruce Lee You will find something in everything if you are looking everywhere for a thing. ~Reebl |
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@MoonPie User ID: 28698215 United States 09/21/2021 12:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But not for any of the hundreds of thousands invaders at our Southern border? “Shallow men believe in luck or in circumstance. Strong men believe in cause and effect.” – Ralph Waldo Emerson “Three great forces rule the world: stupidity, fear and greed.” — Albert Einstein. "Truth does not mind being questioned. A lie does" — Janis Ian |
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mnemonic User ID: 79093233 United States 09/21/2021 01:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | While there is still no vaccination requirement for domestic air travel, Zients said nothing is off the table. Quoting: Happy in Nature "We clearly have a track record that shows we're pulling available levers to acquire vaccinations and we're not taking any measures off the table on specific authorities used for implementation," he said. Zients didn't detail what vaccines will qualify and what would constitute as fully vaccinated and said the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention would provide further details. The new policy applies only to air travel and not land border crossings, which have been closed to nonessential travel between Canada and Mexico. [link to www.nbcnews.com (secure)] is a flight between us and puerto rico or american samoa considered domestic ? loop. ldx #$09 dly. dex nop bne. dly stx. $c030 jmp. loop |
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DigitalDream User ID: 76964606 United States 09/21/2021 02:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is a war crime to collectively punish or penalize a group having individuals who have not committed an actual crime! Assuming someone unvaccinated is more of a danger or burden to others in society than someone vaccinated is clearly not true on an individual basis because if just one unvaccinated person recovers without hospitalization and getting others sick while another vaccinated person infects others, needs hospitalization, and dies then this is a false assumption and it is. If you argue that unvaccinated people are statistically on average more of a danger or burden to society when it is not always true on an individual basis then you are doing nothing more than applying the logic of racism and prejudice... It is using statistics to justify prejudice. Such reasoning ignores individual justice where one is punished based on the real harm that they intentionally or unintentionally cause and anything else is prejudice… Mandates and passports punish people for a crime they have not committed with extreme prejudice. Arguing for collective punishment which if we are in time of war is considered a war crime and a violation of Part III, Section I, Article 33 of the Fourth Geneva Convention… [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] Article 33: Individual responsibility, collective penalties, pillage and reprisals "No protected person may be punished for any offense he or she has not personally committed. Collective penalties and likewise all measures of intimidation or of terrorism are prohibited. Pillage is prohibited. Reprisals against protected persons and their property is prohibited." Under the 1949 Geneva Conventions, collective punishment is a war crime. By collective punishment, the drafters of the Geneva Conventions had in mind the reprisal killings of World War I and World War II. In the First World War, the Germans executed Belgian villagers in mass retribution for resistance activity during the Rape of Belgium. In World War II, both German and Japanese forces carried out a form of collective punishment to suppress resistance. Entire villages or towns or districts were held responsible for any resistance activity that occurred at those places.[5] The conventions, to counter this, reiterated the principle of individual responsibility. The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) Commentary to the conventions states that parties to a conflict often would resort to "intimidatory measures to terrorize the population" in hopes of preventing hostile acts, but such practices "strike at guilty and innocent alike. They are opposed to all principles based on humanity and justice." Additional Protocol II of 1977 explicitly forbids collective punishment. But as fewer states have ratified this protocol than GCIV, GCIV Article 33 is the one more commonly quoted. |
Vision Thing User ID: 78989353 United States 09/21/2021 03:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is a war crime to collectively punish or penalize a group having individuals who have not committed an actual crime! Quoting: DigitalDream Assuming someone unvaccinated is more of a danger or burden to others in society than someone vaccinated is clearly not true on an individual basis because if just one unvaccinated person recovers without hospitalization and getting others sick while another vaccinated person infects others, needs hospitalization, and dies then this is a false assumption and it is. If you argue that unvaccinated people are statistically on average more of a danger or burden to society when it is not always true on an individual basis then you are doing nothing more than applying the logic of racism and prejudice... It is using statistics to justify prejudice. Such reasoning ignores individual justice where one is punished based on the real harm that they intentionally or unintentionally cause and anything else is prejudice… Mandates and passports punish people for a crime they have not committed with extreme prejudice. Arguing for collective punishment which if we are in time of war is considered a war crime and a violation of Part III, Section I, Article 33 of the Fourth Geneva Convention… [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] Article 33: Individual responsibility, collective penalties, pillage and reprisals "No protected person may be punished for any offense he or she has not personally committed. Collective penalties and likewise all measures of intimidation or of terrorism are prohibited. Pillage is prohibited. Reprisals against protected persons and their property is prohibited." Under the 1949 Geneva Conventions, collective punishment is a war crime. By collective punishment, the drafters of the Geneva Conventions had in mind the reprisal killings of World War I and World War II. In the First World War, the Germans executed Belgian villagers in mass retribution for resistance activity during the Rape of Belgium. In World War II, both German and Japanese forces carried out a form of collective punishment to suppress resistance. Entire villages or towns or districts were held responsible for any resistance activity that occurred at those places.[5] The conventions, to counter this, reiterated the principle of individual responsibility. The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) Commentary to the conventions states that parties to a conflict often would resort to "intimidatory measures to terrorize the population" in hopes of preventing hostile acts, but such practices "strike at guilty and innocent alike. They are opposed to all principles based on humanity and justice." Additional Protocol II of 1977 explicitly forbids collective punishment. But as fewer states have ratified this protocol than GCIV, GCIV Article 33 is the one more commonly quoted. Great post, thank you! |
mikke(L) User ID: 80900035 Poland 09/21/2021 03:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow, what a great revelation...Walking cures Covidity. Quoting: Reebl Flying spreads Covidity, walking does not...Makes sense to me??? Is there any data on the pros and cons of driving or perhaps riding a bike as related to the spread of this deadly imagination. Seems like that the preliminary data is showing, the faster you travel the greater the risk of Covidity...I say, "Slow the HLF down". It's really simple, the plebs is not supposed to fly. That will be restricted to the elites again, cause muh CO2 etc... |
Happy in Nature (OP) User ID: 80796606 Nicaragua 09/21/2021 10:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is a war crime to collectively punish or penalize a group having individuals who have not committed an actual crime! Quoting: DigitalDream Assuming someone unvaccinated is more of a danger or burden to others in society than someone vaccinated is clearly not true on an individual basis because if just one unvaccinated person recovers without hospitalization and getting others sick while another vaccinated person infects others, needs hospitalization, and dies then this is a false assumption and it is. If you argue that unvaccinated people are statistically on average more of a danger or burden to society when it is not always true on an individual basis then you are doing nothing more than applying the logic of racism and prejudice... It is using statistics to justify prejudice. Such reasoning ignores individual justice where one is punished based on the real harm that they intentionally or unintentionally cause and anything else is prejudice… Mandates and passports punish people for a crime they have not committed with extreme prejudice. Arguing for collective punishment which if we are in time of war is considered a war crime and a violation of Part III, Section I, Article 33 of the Fourth Geneva Convention… [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] Article 33: Individual responsibility, collective penalties, pillage and reprisals "No protected person may be punished for any offense he or she has not personally committed. Collective penalties and likewise all measures of intimidation or of terrorism are prohibited. Pillage is prohibited. Reprisals against protected persons and their property is prohibited." Under the 1949 Geneva Conventions, collective punishment is a war crime. By collective punishment, the drafters of the Geneva Conventions had in mind the reprisal killings of World War I and World War II. In the First World War, the Germans executed Belgian villagers in mass retribution for resistance activity during the Rape of Belgium. In World War II, both German and Japanese forces carried out a form of collective punishment to suppress resistance. Entire villages or towns or districts were held responsible for any resistance activity that occurred at those places.[5] The conventions, to counter this, reiterated the principle of individual responsibility. The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) Commentary to the conventions states that parties to a conflict often would resort to "intimidatory measures to terrorize the population" in hopes of preventing hostile acts, but such practices "strike at guilty and innocent alike. They are opposed to all principles based on humanity and justice." Additional Protocol II of 1977 explicitly forbids collective punishment. But as fewer states have ratified this protocol than GCIV, GCIV Article 33 is the one more commonly quoted. Thank you for posting that. |
continuity User ID: 79009302 United States 09/21/2021 10:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This has to stop! There has to be a way to make them stop! It is estimated that there are more stars than grains of sand on earth; but more atoms exist in a single grain of sand than there are stars... gravity is a harsh reality. |
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vEyeSea User ID: 30003138 United States 09/21/2021 11:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But they are flying the illegals all around the US. Population replacement. To learn who rules over you, find out who you are not allowed to criticize. When the government is wrong, it's dangerous to be right. The secret of freedom lies in educating people, whereas the secret of tyranny is in keeping them ignorant. -Robspierre |
Happy in Nature (OP) User ID: 80796606 Nicaragua 09/21/2021 11:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Does anyone know if this means if you are a US citizen coming back into the US from a foreign country that you would be required to have the vaccine? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80882557 They have not said it will go that far...yet. As an American living abroad, this has been a big personal concern. I plan to go back to the US in Novemeber to see family, but I will never return if the shot is mandatory. This also means that all foreign flight attendants and pilots have to vaccinated. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76864035 United States 09/21/2021 11:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jen Psaki says the United States will require foreign travelers flying into the US to be fully vaccinated against Covid-19 from "early November." Quoting: Happy in Nature But not illegal migrants since they are entering on foot, not plane. Not sure if they will try to demand American citizens flying into the US be vaccinated or how they handle medical exemptions. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] So finally the southern border is going to limit the illegals coming in. |
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Igor_Larionov User ID: 80330483 Canada 09/21/2021 12:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Savannah, GA Dallas, TX Omaha, NE New Orleans, LA Phoenix, AZ Denver, CO Las Vegas, NV Alexandria, VA Tampa Bay, FL Kansas City, MO Salt Lake, UT Boise, ID and of course all of the major cities a few times too. Such a beautiful country. Gonna miss you guys and gals. USA is an amazing place. |
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manchestercalling User ID: 80901887 United Kingdom 09/21/2021 12:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | one upshot of all this is that i don't intend to travel abroad ever again. at least not as long as the farcical vax passports/tests/quarantines continue. and it doesn't look like they're going away anytime soon. ah well, i've travelled plenty and seen enough of the world before all this baloney. |
dickdraggin User ID: 79021287 United States 09/21/2021 01:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Illegal migrants dont need no stinkin covid test. They are allowed to go anywhere . American citizens mandatory vaxx to keep your job. Dont worry the migrants will take your old job . They dont need a vaxx mandate |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75566467 Canada 09/21/2021 01:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jen Psaki says the United States will require foreign travelers flying into the US to be fully vaccinated against Covid-19 from "early November." Quoting: Happy in Nature But not illegal migrants since they are entering on foot, not plane. Not sure if they will try to demand American citizens flying into the US be vaccinated or how they handle medical exemptions. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] What about Canadians fleeing across the border by car? |
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