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Question about vaxed Vs unvaxed

 
Nunnya
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Question about vaxed Vs unvaxed
This is the first time I have posted here. I have a question.

Its well known that vaxed people can still get and transmit the virus, there does not seem to be much debate about that. What I want to know is, if vaxed people can still get and transmit the virus, why does anyone give a rats arse about unvaxed people?

The vax only lessons the symptoms therefore the unvaxed may get sicker than the vaxed. Why does anyone give a shit about this? I am not vaxed and don't plan on getting it, so if I get the pox and its worse than I thought, thats MY PROBLEM! No one elses.

I have heard that vaxed people are infectious for less time than the unvaxed but can't find any documentation to this effect.

Does anyone have any links to proper sites that detail the difference in spread ability between the vaxed and the unvaxed?
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09/21/2021 07:38 AM
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I think the general response is that the hospitals will be full of unvaxxed and there for it’s selfish bc you could have gotten the shot avoided getting sick. Not my opinion, but seems to be the general line of thinking.
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09/21/2021 07:47 AM
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it's all BS and fear mongering propaganda.

no pathogenic virus has ever been proven to exist. hence the idea of a contagious disease is completely unfounded.

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09/21/2021 08:37 AM

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Think of it this way, vaxed or unvaxed:

They want us to be confused. For example, "if you're vaxed you can't catch this virus or if you do, you won't be as sick". We all know someone who got vaxed & still got sick & even died. So, let's just get back to the facts.

Here's the bottom line for both the vaxed or unvaxed:

If you have a temp, fatigue, cough, shortness of breath &/or diarrhea, etc. you're sick! Call your Doc or do whatever you normally do. You must be responsible.

STAY THE FUCK HOME! YOU ARE CONTAGIOUS & CAN GIVE IT TO ANYONE YOU COME INTO CONTACT WITH, VAXED OR UNVAXED!


Time to forget about the vaxed or unvaxed status, this is what they want everyone to do & not do what they normally would have done. If you are sick, stay home, no matter your vax status.
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09/21/2021 08:49 AM
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Don't expect logic from people who took the vax, they've already proven themselves incapable of critical thinking.
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09/21/2021 09:19 AM
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There is not an "apples to apples" comparison here because it's been proven that:

1. The vaxxed can carry/spread the virus asymptomatically - they don't know they have it and therefore become superspreaders. The unvaxxed will become symptomatic much earlier and self-isolate.

2. The vaxxed, when infected, carry a much higher viral load than the unvaxxed, increasing the likelihood that they will infect others, including their fellow vaxxed.

I find it strange when the vaxxed become symptomatic they blame the unvaxxed for "giving them the virus". It is far more likely they received it from one of their infected, asymptomatic, walking-dead vaxxed buddies.

But we know logic isn't their long suit.
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Re: Question about vaxed Vs unvaxed
it's all BS and fear mongering propaganda.
 Quoting: my2ndcoming


This is your answer to your first question. I know it's not going to be a satisfying one, but to get a detailed one you'd need at least a few hours or better yet dozens of hours to go through the various news/research studies/etc from around the world over the last 2+ years.

To your last question, there is no study that I am aware of - certainly no lab-tested, placebo controlled, randomized clinical trials. I'm sure they've put out some shitty modeling/observational study trying to claim that - just like they have for everything else, but those are worthless outside of propaganda.
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Re: Question about vaxed Vs unvaxed
There is not an "apples to apples" comparison here because it's been proven that:

1. The vaxxed can carry/spread the virus asymptomatically - they don't know they have it and therefore become superspreaders. The unvaxxed will become symptomatic much earlier and self-isolate.

2. The vaxxed, when infected, carry a much higher viral load than the unvaxxed, increasing the likelihood that they will infect others, including their fellow vaxxed.

I find it strange when the vaxxed become symptomatic they blame the unvaxxed for "giving them the virus". It is far more likely they received it from one of their infected, asymptomatic, walking-dead vaxxed buddies.

But we know logic isn't their long suit.
 Quoting: MajesticPoe


The first thing that has to be said is that for Covid 19, 8 out of 10 people are asymptomatic whether or not they were vaccinated.

99.5% of unvaxx people survive Covid. (Apparently...if the numbers are real)....99.7% of vaxxed peole survive Covid.

This is what they are really hiding.
1. inflated death numbers by changing the coding definition last march.
2. the virus is not that deadly at all to anyone under 75 years old in normal health.
3. wearing a mask does one thing....it attempts to prevent you from spreading Covid. If you don't have Covid...wearing a mask does nothing.

...it is stunning how many people don't get that point.
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Re: Question about vaxed Vs unvaxed
There has been some peer reviewed studies done on the data available regarding vaccinated vs unvaccinated individuals. (Not COVID related, but relevant).

Pub Med (dot) gov link; [link to pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]
"Vaccination before 1 year of age was associated with increased odds of developmental delays (OR = 2.18, 95% CI 1.47-3.24), asthma ...(etc)"


2017 Mawson Study [link to drjockers.com (secure)]
"...there was an increase in chronic illness in the vaccinated group... an increase in allergic rhinitis and other allergies, eczema or atopic dermatitis, a learning disability, ADHD, ASD, neurodevelopmental disorder, and any chronic illness."

[link to elcolectivodeuno.wordpress.com (secure)]
"...high-antibody measles vaccine, which was withdrawn from the market after several randomized studies in West Africa showed that it interacted with the DPT (diphtheria, tetanus, and pertussis) vaccine and increased infant mortality by 33%.”

"The study ... showed ... a linear relationship between the number of vaccines ... and the rate of hospitalization and death. In addition, the younger the child was at the time of vaccination, the higher the rate of hospitalization and death. The hospitalization rate increased from 11% for 2 doses of vaccines to 23.5% for 8 doses of vaccines..." [link to elcolectivodeuno.wordpress.com (secure)]

But muuuuuuh "science" and "conspiracy stuff"

Pharmaceutical Industry will never fund a study for IF you should take a vaccine, because they already know the answer. They only fund studies for which ones or how many.

Calling the mrna shot a "vaccine" is a bit of a stretch considering they had to change the definition of vaccine twice so they could keep calling it that.

But the data supports a history of the vaccinated needing more medical treatment than unvaccinated.
Can't see why this particular shot(s) would be any different, if not worse.

Last Edited by Sumsitup on 09/21/2021 01:37 PM
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Nunnya  (OP)

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Re: Question about vaxed Vs unvaxed
Thank you for answering. I have some food for thought.





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