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Crypto in a nutshell… you think ya know but ya don’t know…

 
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If things get really bad and there's an EMP and everything gets shut down you might not have your cryptos for a while (assuming you have them on Cold storage) but you will get them back

People act like we're going to have a mad Max scenario for the rest of our lives

You have to think about the future and what it will look like when everything is rebuilt
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decentrallized or public?

the challenge with sending money long distances isn't time, it's trust.
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do you sell paper maché from ditch reeds ?
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I sell something priceless… knowledge and truth. We are all pawns in this game.
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RIGHT
“We have assembled the most extensive and inclusive Voter Fraud Organization in the history of America”—Joe “SippyCup” Biden

Joe Biden will never be the man Michelle Obama is

The worst thing about dying is that you become a democratic voter for eternity
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truth and knowledge is something GLP does not like it seems unless it’s from Q
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Wrong

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“We have assembled the most extensive and inclusive Voter Fraud Organization in the history of America”—Joe “SippyCup” Biden

Joe Biden will never be the man Michelle Obama is

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When I lose my day job I’m just lucky I bought up crypto over the years otherwise I would had been screwed.

No jab for me.
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Crypto is a trading instrument…

In a nutshell…

It is the modern day high volatility market for traders to play…

It’s a small market and is easily kicked around by big trading houses…

And you can short crypto…. Several instruments available…
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Already planned 15 years ago. A means to smuggle trillions of money out of China when they collapse China’s economy. China tried to ban outflowing Yuan and now cracking down on all cryptos.

Big empires playing chess games fellas. invest wisely.

As gold was used as a tool to smuggle wealth out of a country they’ve replaced it with Crypto.

Everything else is fog, chatter and should be deemed as such.
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Crypto is a trading instrument…

In a nutshell…

It is the modern day high volatility market for traders to play…

It’s a small market and is easily kicked around by big trading houses…

And you can short crypto…. Several instruments available…
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All the crypto trading happening has to be taking away liquidity from the regular stock market... I really think we could starve off these huge corporations by choosing to earn our money Trading in cryptos instead of the regular stock market

I still need to figure out how to short crypto but I know you can do it with Prime xbt
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it's a fucking trap and people need to DUMP IT NOW. i didn't have much in, but i cashed out months ago.
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Re: Crypto in a nutshell… you think ya know but ya don’t know…
Crypto is a trading instrument…

In a nutshell…

It is the modern day high volatility market for traders to play…

It’s a small market and is easily kicked around by big trading houses…

And you can short crypto…. Several instruments available…
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65571479


All the crypto trading happening has to be taking away liquidity from the regular stock market... I really think we could starve off these huge corporations by choosing to earn our money Trading in cryptos instead of the regular stock market

I still need to figure out how to short crypto but I know you can do it with Prime xbt
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It’s a 2T cash market…

That is chump change in market sector sizing…

It has drawn some houses to participate because who does not love beta?

Particularly if you are a good trader…
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Crypto is a trading instrument…

In a nutshell…

It is the modern day high volatility market for traders to play…

It’s a small market and is easily kicked around by big trading houses…

And you can short crypto…. Several instruments available…
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65571479


All the crypto trading happening has to be taking away liquidity from the regular stock market... I really think we could starve off these huge corporations by choosing to earn our money Trading in cryptos instead of the regular stock market

I still need to figure out how to short crypto but I know you can do it with Prime xbt
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tard

it is a trap!
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Re: Crypto in a nutshell… you think ya know but ya don’t know…
Crypto is a trading instrument…

In a nutshell…

It is the modern day high volatility market for traders to play…

It’s a small market and is easily kicked around by big trading houses…

And you can short crypto…. Several instruments available…
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65571479


All the crypto trading happening has to be taking away liquidity from the regular stock market... I really think we could starve off these huge corporations by choosing to earn our money Trading in cryptos instead of the regular stock market

I still need to figure out how to short crypto but I know you can do it with Prime xbt
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tard

it is a trap!
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Well the entire financial system is a ticking time Bond so yeah you got to get out before it crashes

Pay attention to the 10-year yield

Honestly if I were you guys I would just be stacking cash right now and researching cryptos and be prepared for that day so you know exactly how to buy them

That liquidity crisis is going to provide the best buying opportunity of the entire century
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Crypto is a trading instrument…

In a nutshell…

It is the modern day high volatility market for traders to play…

It’s a small market and is easily kicked around by big trading houses…

And you can short crypto…. Several instruments available…
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65571479


All the crypto trading happening has to be taking away liquidity from the regular stock market... I really think we could starve off these huge corporations by choosing to earn our money Trading in cryptos instead of the regular stock market

I still need to figure out how to short crypto but I know you can do it with Prime xbt
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69293517


It’s a 2T cash market…

That is chump change in market sector sizing…

It has drawn some houses to participate because who does not love beta?

Particularly if you are a good trader…
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65571479


Back when Bitcoin was flat for a while at 9300 I was able to turn 20K into 30k in just a couple months trading around alt coins

Unfortunately I decided to put most of it into silver right before the bull run but I did make a lot of money on the cryptos that I didn't sell

I'm starting to trade them again and so far my trades have been good I got out last night right below 45k
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If the price of crypto rises and Chinese markets fall… that’s when the war drums get louder. Get ready guys.
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So do you think Crypto will rise significantly once the market in China falls? If so, do you think it will remain high for an extended period or will it just be temporary?
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all I can say to you is diversify. don’t be greedy. accept a 10-20% annual return. A 20% return is crazy high if you get that consistently every year. On a 50K investment with a return of 20% in 25 years…. without adding more in you end up with $ 4.76Mill. Compounded Gains is your friend.

many have been burned trying to goto the moon and yolo’ing. Invest wisely and listen to billionaire investors not stock/crypto influencers.
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hyper inflation dude, you are playing the long game to fail.
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i think most people can see by now we are entering the end of the game
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Crypto does not need permission to exist, it does need electricity though.
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Of the POW coins, only Dash will survive in the mid to long term. Every other coin relies on volunteer nodes to maintain their networks. In other words, people run the servers from their own computers on their own dime. As more people use these coins, the price of running these computers goes up, this leads to congestion and high fees. Dash is the only coin with fully paid full nodes called Masternodes. As more people use Dash, the price rises and so does their pay. Dash is the only truly long term, sustainable cryptocurrency.
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norespect

If they wanted to 'shut down crypto' all they have to do is shutdown your fiat offramp exchanges. Literally that easy.

Since crypto isn't actually used anywhere for 'payments' (since coinbros gave up on it being money and now call it 'store of value'), and as crypto is only used for gambling, shutting down the 2-3 fiat offramps like coinbase and kraken would effectively kill crypto.

You're trading suduko puzzles back in forth and pretending they have value.
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And you seem so uneducated you swap bitcoin and crypto as terms thinking it's the same thing

Bitcoin is what is considered a store of value now instead of being efficient for a payments not crypto in general

Don't get me wrong the FED is going to try to take advantage of the cryptocurrency market and make their own coin... But unfortunately for them humanity is to awake to accept it

And we haven't listened to an educated shills like you discourage something they know nothing about and we have kept investing in what we feel is morally right
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You have absolutely no 'education'. You spout easily debunked bullshit from /r/bitcoin.

No 'crypto' is effective for payments as it is valued in garbage money aka stablecoins. No-one takes it because it's a pain in the ass to convert to actual money. The exchanges are gray market nonsense working through loopholes that are already in the process of being shut-down.

You might as well buy beanie babies.

Glad you think it's 'morally right' to transfer millions of dollars to peter theil, brian armstrong, tether, 'early adopters' and miners out of china.

There is absolutely no benefit to 'crypto' to the average person except as being a pyramid scheme and shilling your shitcoins to other people so number go up and you get more money.

Keep your ponzi money. Maybe you'll find a sucker to buy it one day.
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Look into Flexa you absolute dolt. They have a network of 40,000 stores in the US (Whole Foods, Sheetz, Walmart, Lowes, etc.) that take crypto payments using their system. Do some research before you spout shit you don't know anything about.
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That doesn't mean the store accepts crypto.

It means some shitty trading company companies hustle crypto off to plebs as resale, collect the payment and forward it to the payee.
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Crypto was being developed in the 1980’s son. And it has little or nothing to do with China.

I’ve been trading crypto for almost ten years now. Long before most of you were out of diapers. Made a killing on BTC when I bought in at $200 bucks.

I could tell you the real reason behind crypto but most of you don’t have the attention span to read it. Nor would you believe it because you aren’t ready.

So play it safe and buy XRP/XLM. it will be the global currency anyway.
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Crypto was being developed in the 1980’s son. And it has little or nothing to do with China.

I’ve been trading crypto for almost ten years now. Long before most of you were out of diapers. Made a killing on BTC when I bought in at $200 bucks.

I could tell you the real reason behind crypto but most of you don’t have the attention span to read it. Nor would you believe it because you aren’t ready.

So play it safe and buy XRP/XLM. it will be the global currency anyway.
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Most coins who's ticker starts with an X are shitcoins. XMR, XRP, XLM. The last two aren't even cryptocurrencies. Recommending centralized bull like that makes you sound stupid.
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I think cryptocurrency is what's causing the desperation in the elite to do things so extreme like mandating these vaccines

They're losing control quickly

I think if crypto didn't exist a ridiculously amount more people would be in the stock market helping prop it up

What we are seeing is the new generation refusing to fund corporation and instead put their investments in decentralized finance

We are destroying them by creating systems where our money is free from there monitoring and taxation

We are starving the beast
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norespect

If they wanted to 'shut down crypto' all they have to do is shutdown your fiat offramp exchanges. Literally that easy.

Since crypto isn't actually used anywhere for 'payments' (since coinbros gave up on it being money and now call it 'store of value'), and as crypto is only used for gambling, shutting down the 2-3 fiat offramps like coinbase and kraken would effectively kill crypto.

You're trading suduko puzzles back in forth and pretending they have value.
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I made $800 earlier today trading those sudoku puzzles so I'd say they have value LOL
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I think cryptocurrency is what's causing the desperation in the elite to do things so extreme like mandating these vaccines

They're losing control quickly

I think if crypto didn't exist a ridiculously amount more people would be in the stock market helping prop it up

What we are seeing is the new generation refusing to fund corporation and instead put their investments in decentralized finance

We are destroying them by creating systems where our money is free from there monitoring and taxation

We are starving the beast
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norespect

If they wanted to 'shut down crypto' all they have to do is shutdown your fiat offramp exchanges. Literally that easy.

Since crypto isn't actually used anywhere for 'payments' (since coinbros gave up on it being money and now call it 'store of value'), and as crypto is only used for gambling, shutting down the 2-3 fiat offramps like coinbase and kraken would effectively kill crypto.

You're trading suduko puzzles back in forth and pretending they have value.
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And you seem so uneducated you swap bitcoin and crypto as terms thinking it's the same thing

Bitcoin is what is considered a store of value now instead of being efficient for a payments not crypto in general

Don't get me wrong the FED is going to try to take advantage of the cryptocurrency market and make their own coin... But unfortunately for them humanity is to awake to accept it

And we haven't listened to an educated shills like you discourage something they know nothing about and we have kept investing in what we feel is morally right
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You have absolutely no 'education'. You spout easily debunked bullshit from /r/bitcoin.

No 'crypto' is effective for payments as it is valued in garbage money aka stablecoins. No-one takes it because it's a pain in the ass to convert to actual money. The exchanges are gray market nonsense working through loopholes that are already in the process of being shut-down.

You might as well buy beanie babies.

Glad you think it's 'morally right' to transfer millions of dollars to peter theil, brian armstrong, tether, 'early adopters' and miners out of china.

There is absolutely no benefit to 'crypto' to the average person except as being a pyramid scheme and shilling your shitcoins to other people so number go up and you get more money.



*****WRONG!!!!†**********

Never before have had tech that allows anon people to transact between each other in a trusted way without a 3rd party gatekeeper - that is a 1st order paradigm shifting event.

Thanks to blockchain we now also have censorship resistant websites via unstoppable domains. This is the tech that we need right now. This is the tech that preserves privacy, autonomy and freedom of speech! There is nothing more significant. You have no idea what you are talking about. The true ponzi is fucking fiat currency that has unlimited supply and is being printed to the value of zero as we speak. Fucking dipshits.

************

Keep your ponzi money. Maybe you'll find a sucker to buy it one day.
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Crypto was being developed in the 1980’s son. And it has little or nothing to do with China.

I’ve been trading crypto for almost ten years now. Long before most of you were out of diapers. Made a killing on BTC when I bought in at $200 bucks.

I could tell you the real reason behind crypto but most of you don’t have the attention span to read it. Nor would you believe it because you aren’t ready.

So play it safe and buy XRP/XLM. it will be the global currency anyway.
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bump

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I think cryptocurrency is what's causing the desperation in the elite to do things so extreme like mandating these vaccines

They're losing control quickly

I think if crypto didn't exist a ridiculously amount more people would be in the stock market helping prop it up

What we are seeing is the new generation refusing to fund corporation and instead put their investments in decentralized finance

We are destroying them by creating systems where our money is free from there monitoring and taxation

We are starving the beast
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69293517


norespect

If they wanted to 'shut down crypto' all they have to do is shutdown your fiat offramp exchanges. Literally that easy.

Since crypto isn't actually used anywhere for 'payments' (since coinbros gave up on it being money and now call it 'store of value'), and as crypto is only used for gambling, shutting down the 2-3 fiat offramps like coinbase and kraken would effectively kill crypto.

You're trading suduko puzzles back in forth and pretending they have value.
 Quoting: NLPAstrology


And you seem so uneducated you swap bitcoin and crypto as terms thinking it's the same thing

Bitcoin is what is considered a store of value now instead of being efficient for a payments not crypto in general

Don't get me wrong the FED is going to try to take advantage of the cryptocurrency market and make their own coin... But unfortunately for them humanity is to awake to accept it

And we haven't listened to an educated shills like you discourage something they know nothing about and we have kept investing in what we feel is morally right
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69293517



You have absolutely no 'education'. You spout easily debunked bullshit from /r/bitcoin.

No 'crypto' is effective for payments as it is valued in garbage money aka stablecoins. No-one takes it because it's a pain in the ass to convert to actual money. The exchanges are gray market nonsense working through loopholes that are already in the process of being shut-down.

You might as well buy beanie babies.

Glad you think it's 'morally right' to transfer millions of dollars to peter theil, brian armstrong, tether, 'early adopters' and miners out of china.

There is absolutely no benefit to 'crypto' to the average person except as being a pyramid scheme and shilling your shitcoins to other people so number go up and you get more money.

Keep your ponzi money. Maybe you'll find a sucker to buy it one day.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80916579


I think cryptocurrency is what's causing the desperation in the elite to do things so extreme like mandating these vaccines

They're losing control quickly

I think if crypto didn't exist a ridiculously amount more people would be in the stock market helping prop it up

What we are seeing is the new generation refusing to fund corporation and instead put their investments in decentralized finance

We are destroying them by creating systems where our money is free from there monitoring and taxation

We are starving the beast
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69293517


norespect

If they wanted to 'shut down crypto' all they have to do is shutdown your fiat offramp exchanges. Literally that easy.

Since crypto isn't actually used anywhere for 'payments' (since coinbros gave up on it being money and now call it 'store of value'), and as crypto is only used for gambling, shutting down the 2-3 fiat offramps like coinbase and kraken would effectively kill crypto.

You're trading suduko puzzles back in forth and pretending they have value.
 Quoting: NLPAstrology


And you seem so uneducated you swap bitcoin and crypto as terms thinking it's the same thing

Bitcoin is what is considered a store of value now instead of being efficient for a payments not crypto in general

Don't get me wrong the FED is going to try to take advantage of the cryptocurrency market and make their own coin... But unfortunately for them humanity is to awake to accept it

And we haven't listened to an educated shills like you discourage something they know nothing about and we have kept investing in what we feel is morally right
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69293517



You have absolutely no 'education'. You spout easily debunked bullshit from /r/bitcoin.

No 'crypto' is effective for payments as it is valued in garbage money aka stablecoins. No-one takes it because it's a pain in the ass to convert to actual money. The exchanges are gray market nonsense working through loopholes that are already in the process of being shut-down.

You might as well buy beanie babies.

Glad you think it's 'morally right' to transfer millions of dollars to peter theil, brian armstrong, tether, 'early adopters' and miners out of china.

There is absolutely no benefit to 'crypto' to the average person except as being a pyramid scheme and shilling your shitcoins to other people so number go up and you get more money.

Keep your ponzi money. Maybe you'll find a sucker to buy it one day.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80916579


Wrong!!!!!

Never before have had tech that allows anon people to transact between each other in a trusted way without a 3rd party gatekeeper - that is a 1st order paradigm shifting event.

Thanks to blockchain we now also have censorship resistant websites via unstoppable domains. This is the tech that we need right now. This is the tech that preserves privacy, autonomy and freedom of speech! There is nothing more significant. You have no idea what you are talking about. The true ponzi is fucking fiat currency that has unlimited supply and is being printed to the value of zero as we speak. Fucking dipshits.

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If things get really bad and there's an EMP and everything gets shut down you might not have your cryptos for a while (assuming you have them on Cold storage) but you will get them back

People act like we're going to have a mad Max scenario for the rest of our lives

You have to think about the future and what it will look like when everything is rebuilt
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GOLD AND SILVER WILL REMAIN KING.

NOT THIN AIR!
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You're welcome.

Also, bear in mind that if you want to swap back into dollars, there are "stablecoins" that mimic the US dollar on a (usually extremely close) 1:1 basis.

I would use USDC, personally. I would not use USDT (aka Tether.)

The advantage of this is that you are not creating a taxable event, as you would if you sold your holdings on an exchange for actual dollars.

You can keep stablecoins in a load of different wallets. I use Atomic Wallet, which also allows a wide range of swapping as a built-in feature.

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Holy crap, I was wondering about this exact thing yesterday and meant to learn about it but it had slipped my mind today. You must have read my mind! Thank you!


Not good tax advice. There is no 1031 exchange for crypto, only real estate gets that. Thanks, Trump!!

Anytime you trade out a crypto coin for another, it's a taxable event. Even sending a coin and generating a UTXO could be interpreted as a tax event. One way I've seen to not have a taxable event would be to give someone a private key. It would only be taxable once the recipient sends it, however, they would have to trust you not to "double spend" the key.
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Excuse me??

I'm quite sure what any gubernement printing money wants is their currency exiting the country and possibly never return.

The problem is when it comes back.

Crypto was created for money laundering and smart inflation deletion.

The more idiots swap their currency for cryptos the more gubernments can print without experiencing hyper inflation
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I'm sure Coinbase will have it, but I don't use centralized exchanges, anymore.

I did use Coinbase as my original fiat money "on ramp", but moved my BTC and ETH private keys into my own hardware wallet years ago.

Once you're holding your own private keys (always a good idea) you can send crypto from your wallet(s) to online exchange services, like simpleswap dot io (I bought a bunch of Theta token through this) or changeangel dot io.

Simpleswap gives you a wide range of coins and tokens to swap to/from, but it has higher fees than changeangel (which has a smaller range of coins/tokens to choose from.)

There are many online swap services that don't require KYC (Know Your Customer) so take a look around.

drevil
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Thank you! thumbs
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You're welcome.

Also, bear in mind that if you want to swap back into dollars, there are "stablecoins" that mimic the US dollar on a (usually extremely close) 1:1 basis.

I would use USDC, personally. I would not use USDT (aka Tether.)

The advantage of this is that you are not creating a taxable event, as you would if you sold your holdings on an exchange for actual dollars.

You can keep stablecoins in a load of different wallets. I use Atomic Wallet, which also allows a wide range of swapping as a built-in feature.

drevil
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I do believe it IS a taxable event if you exchange your coin into a stable coin. Where are you getting your info that it's not a taxable event?
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Well, it's not, for me. It might be if you are a US citizen, but then it's up to you to tell the IRS, isn't it?

I know what I would do.

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Thank you! I will have to see if Coinbase offers that one. I am a Crypto newbie so I am still trying to figure everything out.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78600034


I'm sure Coinbase will have it, but I don't use centralized exchanges, anymore.

I did use Coinbase as my original fiat money "on ramp", but moved my BTC and ETH private keys into my own hardware wallet years ago.

Once you're holding your own private keys (always a good idea) you can send crypto from your wallet(s) to online exchange services, like simpleswap dot io (I bought a bunch of Theta token through this) or changeangel dot io.

Simpleswap gives you a wide range of coins and tokens to swap to/from, but it has higher fees than changeangel (which has a smaller range of coins/tokens to choose from.)

There are many online swap services that don't require KYC (Know Your Customer) so take a look around.

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Thank you! thumbs
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78600034


You're welcome.

Also, bear in mind that if you want to swap back into dollars, there are "stablecoins" that mimic the US dollar on a (usually extremely close) 1:1 basis.

I would use USDC, personally. I would not use USDT (aka Tether.)

The advantage of this is that you are not creating a taxable event, as you would if you sold your holdings on an exchange for actual dollars.

You can keep stablecoins in a load of different wallets. I use Atomic Wallet, which also allows a wide range of swapping as a built-in feature.

drevil
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78507753


This is completely untrue and if any newbie is reading this you better do your homework. ANY transaction between coins (even stable coins) is a taxable event. The IRS will look at going into a stable coin as though you cashed out to USD and you will owe taxes on that (even though you don't have USD) if the place you did the exchange reports to the IRS. At this point in time I believe the level of transactions in a year for US citizens is $10,000 (it was $20,000). Once you go over that, everything you do gets reported on a US registered exchange. Why do you think they went after Binance?

If you go from BTC to ETH and back again that is two reportable transactions, regardless of the coins you transact in.

People have gotten buried by the IRS by selling BTC when it ran up to $20K and then went into other coins. By the end of that year the market had tanked, but they still owed the tax for earlier transaction. Also, you can only deduct $3k of losses per year, so another thing to be aware of.

As for everyone spending with their credit cards, be careful. I haven't done research on it, but I'm not sure if those exchanges offering those report or not. You could spend $15K on gold coins, but IRS might say you owe capital gains on the crypto when you sold it to buy the coins.

It's all about the reporting structure.

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I'm sure Coinbase will have it, but I don't use centralized exchanges, anymore.

I did use Coinbase as my original fiat money "on ramp", but moved my BTC and ETH private keys into my own hardware wallet years ago.

Once you're holding your own private keys (always a good idea) you can send crypto from your wallet(s) to online exchange services, like simpleswap dot io (I bought a bunch of Theta token through this) or changeangel dot io.

Simpleswap gives you a wide range of coins and tokens to swap to/from, but it has higher fees than changeangel (which has a smaller range of coins/tokens to choose from.)

There are many online swap services that don't require KYC (Know Your Customer) so take a look around.

drevil
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78507753


Thank you! thumbs
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78600034


You're welcome.

Also, bear in mind that if you want to swap back into dollars, there are "stablecoins" that mimic the US dollar on a (usually extremely close) 1:1 basis.

I would use USDC, personally. I would not use USDT (aka Tether.)

The advantage of this is that you are not creating a taxable event, as you would if you sold your holdings on an exchange for actual dollars.

You can keep stablecoins in a load of different wallets. I use Atomic Wallet, which also allows a wide range of swapping as a built-in feature.

drevil
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78507753


This is completely untrue and if any newbie is reading this you better do your homework. ANY transaction between coins (even stable coins) is a taxable event. The IRS will look at going into a stable coin as though you cashed out to USD and you will owe taxes on that (even though you don't have USD) if the place you did the exchange reports to the IRS. At this point in time I believe the level of transactions in a year for US citizens is $10,000 (it was $20,000). Once you go over that, everything you do gets reported on a US registered exchange. Why do you think they went after Binance?

If you go from BTC to ETH and back again that is two reportable transactions, regardless of the coins you transact in.

People have gotten buried by the IRS by selling BTC when it ran up to $20K and then went into other coins. By the end of that year the market had tanked, but they still owed the tax for earlier transaction. Also, you can only deduct $3k of losses per year, so another thing to be aware of.

As for everyon spending with their credit cards, be careful. I haven't done research on it, but I'm not sure if those exchanges offering those report or not. You could spend $15K on gold coins, but IRS might say you owe capital gains on the crypto when you sold it to buy the coins.

It's all about the reporting structure.
 Quoting: Oracle Prime


It would be stupid to use a regulated exchange (Coinbase, Kraken, Gemini etc.) to swap into stablecoins.

Why would you, when it can be done inside a wallet (Atomic Wallet, for instance) or via an online swap facility that doesn't use KYC/AML?

When in crypto world, you really want to stay in crypto world as far as possible.

Avoid bankster world and taxman world.

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